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  1. #1

    That stupid Pangilinan law

    That stupid Pangilinan law

    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/62815/t...pangilinan-law

    There is an urgent need to amend that stupid law that exempts young criminals from punishment even if they have committed heinous crimes.

    Under Republic Act 9344, or the Juvenile Justice Welfare Act of 2006, authored by Sen. Francis “Kiko” Pangilinan, persons 15 years old and below cannot be imprisoned even for heinous crimes like rape and murder.

    Based on the provisions of that law, the police and the Department of Social Welfare should first determine whether an offender 16 to 18 years of age had “discernment,” meaning the person must have known what he or she was doing during the commission of the crime.
    T
    hat’s really stupid because in this age of television and the Internet, or the information highway, a 14-year-old kid’s maturity is equivalent to that of a person 20 years of age before the advent of multimedia outlets.

    If RA 9344 is a stupid law, what does that make of Pangilinan and his colleagues who passed the law and President Gloria who signed it?

    * * *
    Because of Pangilinan’s law, three minors who beat up 21-year-old Albert Talon for no apparent reason are out scot-free.

    Talon was on his way home from work in Dasmariñas, Cavite province, when he crossed the path of the three young neighborhood toughies.

    The three were allegedly under the influence of drugs.

    The assault was so severe Talon lost all his teeth. His jaw has been dislocated as a result of the incident.

    Asked why they did it, the three said: “Kursunada lang (just for the thrill of it).”

    I wonder how those legislators who approved RA 9344 would react if minors beat up their innocent relatives and then tell them the same thing.

  2. #2
    the law should be repealed. voters should remember that pangilinan was the author of this law when he runs for public office the next time.

  3. #3
    bugok na law eto.. kahanay ng lina law

  4. #4
    bugok na law eto.. kahanay ng lina law

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    This stupid law is the very reason why we have observed an increase in crimes committed by minors.

    Lumalakas loob nila because all they'll be getting is a wrist slapping from the DSWD

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by chupamae View Post
    That stupid Pangilinan law

    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/62815/t...pangilinan-law

    There is an urgent need to amend that stupid law that exempts young criminals from punishment even if they have committed heinous crimes.

    Under Republic Act 9344, or the Juvenile Justice Welfare Act of 2006, authored by Sen. Francis “Kiko” Pangilinan, persons 15 years old and below cannot be imprisoned even for heinous crimes like rape and murder.

    Based on the provisions of that law, the police and the Department of Social Welfare should first determine whether an offender 16 to 18 years of age had “discernment,” meaning the person must have known what he or she was doing during the commission of the crime.
    T
    hat’s really stupid because in this age of television and the Internet, or the information highway, a 14-year-old kid’s maturity is equivalent to that of a person 20 years of age before the advent of multimedia outlets.

    If RA 9344 is a stupid law, what does that make of Pangilinan and his colleagues who passed the law and President Gloria who signed it?

    * * *
    Because of Pangilinan’s law, three minors who beat up 21-year-old Albert Talon for no apparent reason are out scot-free.

    Talon was on his way home from work in Dasmariñas, Cavite province, when he crossed the path of the three young neighborhood toughies.

    The three were allegedly under the influence of drugs.

    The assault was so severe Talon lost all his teeth. His jaw has been dislocated as a result of the incident.

    Asked why they did it, the three said: “Kursunada lang (just for the thrill of it).”

    I wonder how those legislators who approved RA 9344 would react if minors beat up their innocent relatives and then tell them the same thing.
    Karamihan kasi ng gumagawa ng batas ay hindi na-eexperience ang na-eexperience ng "common tao". Hindi naman kasi sila naglalakad sa kalye. Hindi sumasakay ng jeep o ng bus.

    Naalala ko tuloy yung teacher na sinaksak ng kanyang estudyante. Tsk, tsk, tsk. NAAWA SILA SA mga 15-anyos pababa ang idad na KRIMINAL pero sa BIKTIMA AY HINDI.

  7. #7
    hindi na kailangan ikulong i salvage na lang nga mga pulis ang mga iyan .. wala naman maghahabol dyan ...

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by chupamae View Post
    That stupid Pangilinan law

    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/62815/t...pangilinan-law

    There is an urgent need to amend that stupid law that exempts young criminals from punishment even if they have committed heinous crimes.

    Under Republic Act 9344, or the Juvenile Justice Welfare Act of 2006, authored by Sen. Francis “Kiko” Pangilinan, persons 15 years old and below cannot be imprisoned even for heinous crimes like rape and murder.

    Based on the provisions of that law, the police and the Department of Social Welfare should first determine whether an offender 16 to 18 years of age had “discernment,” meaning the person must have known what he or she was doing during the commission of the crime.
    T
    hat’s really stupid because in this age of television and the Internet, or the information highway, a 14-year-old kid’s maturity is equivalent to that of a person 20 years of age before the advent of multimedia outlets.

    If RA 9344 is a stupid law, what does that make of Pangilinan and his colleagues who passed the law and President Gloria who signed it?

    * * *
    Because of Pangilinan’s law, three minors who beat up 21-year-old Albert Talon for no apparent reason are out scot-free.

    Talon was on his way home from work in Dasmariñas, Cavite province, when he crossed the path of the three young neighborhood toughies.

    The three were allegedly under the influence of drugs.

    The assault was so severe Talon lost all his teeth. His jaw has been dislocated as a result of the incident.

    Asked why they did it, the three said: “Kursunada lang (just for the thrill of it).”

    I wonder how those legislators who approved RA 9344 would react if minors beat up their innocent relatives and then tell them the same thing.

    what do you expect? stupid people make stupid decisions/laws

    pangilinan doesnt deserve to be in the senate.. mga walang alam

  9. #9
    Mas maganda sana kung habang menor de edad pa ang bata at gumawa ng krimen, yung magulang ang dapat munang managot.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by quwertii View Post
    Mas maganda sana kung habang menor de edad pa ang bata at gumawa ng krimen, yung magulang ang dapat munang managot.
    A sound suggestion.

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    children who commit crime like 15 years old under.. should be tried, and punished as an adult when they hit 18, in the mean time dapat merong dispensable type of punishment while they are not of age like loads and loads of community service till they hit 18 then the real punishment

    pag magulang kasi mananagot a child who hates or rebels against parents might just do crime to spite both parents or use this as leverage..

    dapat talaga parusa this country needs discipline esp the youth

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    Quote Originally Posted by quwertii View Post
    Mas maganda sana kung habang menor de edad pa ang bata at gumawa ng krimen, yung magulang ang dapat munang managot.
    kawawa naman ang magulang supposedly if *** parehong magulang good morally upright citizens hard working tapos nagkakalat lang *** anak.. (bad influence and bad company can do that)

    bata talaga dapat sumagot sa kalokhan niya, parents will automatically shoulder the responsibility underage eh, may "future" ang anak nila not to mention the a mothers love sacrifice esque... that will send a bad message to them at a young age na may parating tutubos sa kalokohan nila

  13. #13
    eto din ang pinagtataka ko kung bakit hindi pa alisin or amyendahan ang batas na ito... gusto pa yata nilang maraming krimen pa ang mangyari na sangkot ang kabataan bago ayusin ito... ginagamit lang ng mga sindikato ang mga kabataan para sa krimen nila... baka sa susunod mga carnapers, kidnapers, bank robbers, gun for hire like riding in tandem ay mga kabataan na lahat dahil alam nila dswd lang naman bagsak nila...

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    bump on this one. pag may probable cause na pwede naman sila ilagay sa isang juvenila detention center. meron ganito sa US. it's a jail but only for teenagers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shintaro76 View Post
    Karamihan kasi ng gumagawa ng batas ay hindi na-eexperience ang na-eexperience ng "common tao". Hindi naman kasi sila naglalakad sa kalye. Hindi sumasakay ng jeep o ng bus.

    Naalala ko tuloy yung teacher na sinaksak ng kanyang estudyante. Tsk, tsk, tsk. NAAWA SILA SA mga 15-anyos pababa ang idad na KRIMINAL pero sa BIKTIMA AY HINDI.
    Lawmakers are out of touch with reality. They are sheltered in their own suburbs. Even their children and their equally rich relatives don't have to deal with what's outside their shelter.

    Not all children are saints. A 15 year old should be judged not by his age, but whether or not he pose a THREAT to society.

  16. #16
    Syempre basta may masabi lang na may naipasang batas, alam mo naman yang mga yan. Pero I totally agree na higpitan ang batas na yan kasi maraming kabataan ngayon ang mababa ang moralidad due to lack of education, parental support, dagdag pa jan ang hirap ng buhay. Self-respect is developed during these age groupb. Kung wala kang respect sa sarili mo, ano pa kaya pagdating sa kapwa mo diba? :-)

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    Bobo impakto talaga ang gumawa at nagpatupad ng batas na ito. Pano kaya kung ang mangyari sa anak nila ay ganito?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger

    Padamihan ng batas, puro kabobohan naman ang nasa isip. Ano to project sa school na para lang may maipasa?

  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by jaymed View Post
    children who commit crime like 15 years old under.. should be tried, and punished as an adult when they hit 18, in the mean time dapat merong dispensable type of punishment while they are not of age like loads and loads of community service till they hit 18 then the real punishment

    pag magulang kasi mananagot a child who hates or rebels against parents might just do crime to spite both parents or use this as leverage..

    dapat talaga parusa this country needs discipline esp the youth
    i think they should be tried as adults.. no ifs no buts. have you been on the streets at 12 midnight? puro yabang ang laman ng utak ng mga yan, alisin mo ang yabang sa utak nila iyakta3 yang mga yan.

    no community service won't work either, tatakasan lang nila yan.

  19. #19
    gumawa rin sila ng batas na pagsangkot ang 15yo pababa yung parents or guardian ang makukulong, ewan ko lang kung palabasin pa nila mga anak nila.

  20. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by juanito5354 View Post
    gumawa rin sila ng batas na pagsangkot ang 15yo pababa yung parents or guardian ang makukulong, ewan ko lang kung palabasin pa nila mga anak nila.
    let me be the devil's advocate in this thread.

    the law is NOT stupid because its intention was for the PROTECTION of minors.

    ang problema ay inabuso ang law na eto by criminal-minded groups or individuals. kumbaga nag-micro manage na ang mga criminal~ imbes na ang mga snatcher mismo ang mag-snatch ay mga bata na lang ang mag-snatch para sa kanya. para kung mahuli ang bata, laya agad.

    there should be an addendum to the law against those who do child abuse. sadly, implementation of laws in our society is lacking/severely wanting.

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