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    Bakit naging buhos ang binyag?

    Ang binyag ay isang sakramento o ritwal ng mga Kristiyano na ginagawaran ng pagbubuhos ng banal na tubig sa may ulunan ng sanggol o maging nasa-edad na, bilang tanda ng pagiging bahagi niya sa pamayanang Kristiyano. Sa pamamagitan nito, inaasahang magiging mabuting Kristiyano ang binibinyagan

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    "Sa loob ng ilang siglo pagkatapos ng pagkakatatag ng Kristianismo ang Bautismo ay karaniwang iginagawa sa pamamagitan ng lubog; nguni't mula ng ikalabingdalawang siglo ang kaugaliang pagbibinyag sa pamamagitan ng buhos ay namayani sa loob ng IGLESIA KATOLIKA, yayamang ang paraang ito ay walang gasinong sagabal na di gaya ng Bautismo sa pamamagitan ng lubog." (Ang Pananampalataya ng ating mga Ninuno, p.274)

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    Hindi ba effective ang binyag kapag buhos lang at hindi lubog?

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    bakit buhos? dahil that is what their common sense told them to do.
    parang yong sta cena di ba dapat gabi ginagawa bilang pag-alala kay jesus bakit meron na rin sa umaga at tanghali? di ba common sense lang?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustaine View Post
    Hindi ba effective ang binyag kapag buhos lang at hindi lubog?
    sino ba ang dapat tumanggap ng bautismo?

    Ang sumasampalataya at mabautismuhan ay maliligtas" (Marcos 16:16)

    paano ang paraan ng bautismo?

    Si Juan ay nagbabautismo rin naman sa Enon, malapit sa Salim, sapagkat maraming tubig doon, Pumupunta sa kanya ang mga tao at nagpapabautismo. (Juan 3:23, MB)


    "At ipinagutos niya itigil ang karo: at sila;y kapuwa lumusong sa tubig, si Felipe at ang bating; at kaniyang binautismuhan siya." (Gawa 8:38)


    "Samakatuwid, tayo'y namatay at nalibing na kasama niya sa pamamagitan ng bautismo upang kung paanong binuhay na muli si Cristo sa pamamagitan ng dakilang kapangyarihan ng Ama, tayo nama'y mabuhay sa isang bagong pamumuhay." (Roma 6:4,MB)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRENNNG View Post
    bakit buhos? dahil that is what their common sense told them to do.
    parang yong sta cena di ba dapat gabi ginagawa bilang pag-alala kay jesus bakit meron na rin sa umaga at tanghali? di ba common sense lang?
    bakit ba isinasagawa ang sta. cena o banal na hapunan?

    "Ito ang aking katawan na inihahandog para sa inyo. Gawin ninyo ito bilang pag-aalaala sa akin." - 1 Corinto 11:24

    hindi po isinasagawa yun para kumain ng hapunan. ginagawa yun para alalahanin ang pagkakahandog ng buhay ni Cristo para sa kanyang mga alagad.

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    sino ba ang dapat tumanggap ng bautismo?

    Ang sumasampalataya at mabautismuhan ay maliligtas" (Marcos 16:16)

    paano ang paraan ng bautismo?

    Si Juan ay nagbabautismo rin naman sa Enon, malapit sa Salim, sapagkat maraming tubig doon, Pumupunta sa kanya ang mga tao at nagpapabautismo. (Juan 3:23, MB)


    "At ipinagutos niya itigil ang karo: at sila;y kapuwa lumusong sa tubig, si Felipe at ang bating; at kaniyang binautismuhan siya." (Gawa 8:38)


    "Samakatuwid, tayo'y namatay at nalibing na kasama niya sa pamamagitan ng bautismo upang kung paanong binuhay na muli si Cristo sa pamamagitan ng dakilang kapangyarihan ng Ama, tayo nama'y mabuhay sa isang bagong pamumuhay." (Roma 6:4,MB)
    parang nagbabasa ako ng pasugo nito, pero para naman malaman natin kung tumitimo sa yo ang mga aral ng iglesia, paki paliwanag naman kung kung paano namamatay at nalilibing na kasama ni jesus kapag binabautismohan? namamatay ka at nabubuhay during baptism? how? is it literal? ano ang ibig sabihin ng mga anak sa pangako?
    bakit doon sa sambahayan ni cornelio wala naman maraming tubig bakit nananalangin palang bumababa na ang espiritu santo? alam mo ba yong nangyari na salvation before baptism sa kanilang buong familia? at least yong sa catholic may tubig ,yong kila cornelio ang centurion wala talagang tubig.

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    binautismuhan mayron ba nitong salita noon sa gulfo o kaya sa salitang aramaic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aileen91282 View Post
    bakit ba isinasagawa ang sta. cena o banal na hapunan?

    "Ito ang aking katawan na inihahandog para sa inyo. Gawin ninyo ito bilang pag-aalaala sa akin." - 1 Corinto 11:24

    hindi po isinasagawa yun para kumain ng hapunan. ginagawa yun para alalahanin ang pagkakahandog ng buhay ni Cristo para sa kanyang mga alagad.
    when you are commemorating an event, a holy supper. kailan kaya ang tamang reenactment? hahahaha. take note holy yan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRENNNG View Post
    when you are commemorating an event, a holy supper. kailan kaya ang tamang reenactment? hahahaha. take note holy yan.

    i am guessing right now that you are a catholic. well, bakit sa misa na ginagawa ninyo ng madaling araw, umaga, tanghali, merienda at gabi e bahagi ang pagkain ng tinapay at pag-inom sa saro? hindi ba ang pagkain ng tinapay at pag-inom sa saro e ang ginawa sa banal na hapunan?

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    binautismuhan mayron ba nitong salita noon sa gulfo o kaya sa salitang aramaic?
    salitang kristiano lang yan pre, mula kay juan bautista na pinasikat yong bautismo sa tubig,kasi sya ang nag baptize kay jc sa jordan river daw. pauso lang yan sa nt yang word na yan, yung ibang tao nga ginawa pang surname yan. hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRENNNG View Post
    parang nagbabasa ako ng pasugo nito, pero para naman malaman natin kung tumitimo sa yo ang mga aral ng iglesia, paki paliwanag naman kung kung paano namamatay at nalilibing na kasama ni jesus kapag binabautismohan? namamatay ka at nabubuhay during baptism? how? is it literal? ano ang ibig sabihin ng mga anak sa pangako?
    bakit doon sa sambahayan ni cornelio wala naman maraming tubig bakit nananalangin palang bumababa na ang espiritu santo? alam mo ba yong nangyari na salvation before baptism sa kanilang buong familia? at least yong sa catholic may tubig ,yong kila cornelio ang centurion wala talagang tubig.
    brenning, it seems na mababaw ang pagkaunawa mo sa salitang bautismo. ang namamatay during baptism ay ang dating pagkatao at nabubuhay na muli ayon sa mga aral na sinampalatayan mo.

    ""Hindi na ako ang nabubuhay ngayon kundi si Cristo na ang nabubuhay sa akin"" - Galatia 2:20

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    Quote Originally Posted by aileen91282 View Post
    i am guessing right now that you are a catholic. well, bakit sa misa na ginagawa ninyo ng madaling araw, umaga, tanghali, merienda at gabi e bahagi ang pagkain ng tinapay at pag-inom sa saro? hindi ba ang pagkain ng tinapay at pag-inom sa saro e ang ginawa sa banal na hapunan?
    now you're talking, kung hindi ako nagkakamali sa tema ng iyong pangangatwiran, eh ok lang yong ginagawa ninyo dahil sa ginagawa rin ng mga katoliko o ng kahit na sino pa at hindi rin ibig sabihin ay pareho kayong tama. at nag nakakabigla eh yong, parang lumalabas na gumaya pa kayo sa mga katoliko dahil sa pagkakatulad ninyo sa mga oras ng pagsasagawa kanilang holy Eucharist but sila isang lang ang umiinom. at hindi welch ang juice ni father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aileen91282 View Post
    brenning, it seems na mababaw ang pagkaunawa mo sa salitang bautismo. ang namamatay during baptism ay ang dating pagkatao at nabubuhay na muli ayon sa mga aral na sinampalatayan mo.

    ""Hindi na ako ang nabubuhay ngayon kundi si Cristo na ang nabubuhay sa akin"" - Galatia 2:20
    paano nga nangyayari yang mga tinutukoy mo? tulad nang bakit umuulan di ba alam mo rin yon, paano naman yong si kristo ang nabubuhay sa yo dahil sa namatay at nabuhay ka during baptism, sa yo galing yang pahayag na yan ha.

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    Tanong. Seryosong tanong.

    Paano ba ang pag bibinyag sa INM este INC? Yung buong detalye sana, yung kung ano sinasabi ng pastor, yung script ng pastor na nagbibinyag?

    May nabasa kasi ako sa net mula sa ex-INM, kung tama yung sinabi niya, naku!

    Sana may magbigay ng matinong sagot mula sa mga member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aileen91282 View Post
    "Sa loob ng ilang siglo pagkatapos ng pagkakatatag ng Kristianismo ang Bautismo ay karaniwang iginagawa sa pamamagitan ng lubog; nguni't mula ng ikalabingdalawang siglo ang kaugaliang pagbibinyag sa pamamagitan ng buhos ay namayani sa loob ng IGLESIA KATOLIKA, yayamang ang paraang ito ay walang gasinong sagabal na di gaya ng Bautismo sa pamamagitan ng lubog." (Ang Pananampalataya ng ating mga Ninuno, p.274)
    Simbolo din kase ng paghuhugas ng kasalanan ang sakramento ng binyag kaya puede ang tubog puede din ang buhos.

    And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name.' Acts 22:16

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    Ano kaya ang sinasab ng Ministro pag nagbabautistismo sa swimming pool eh di sila na naniniwala sa Holy Trinity Baka ganito:

    "Sa ngalan ni Felix, ni Erano at ni Edgardo, ikaw ay ilulublob dito sa chlorine rich water of this pool na pag-aari ni Ka Watan bilang tanda ng iyong kamatayan at ang iyong pagahon ay tanda ng iyong pagkabuhay bilang kasapi ng Iglesia ng Kadil este ng mga ManalO, siya nawa."

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    why?

    Quote Originally Posted by BRENNNG View Post
    salitang kristiano lang yan pre, mula kay juan bautista na pinasikat yong bautismo sa tubig,kasi sya ang nag baptize kay jc sa jordan river daw. pauso lang yan sa nt yang word na yan, yung ibang tao nga ginawa pang surname yan. hehe
    kilala ko si Juan Bautista ang tanong ko si Hesus ang salita nya Aramaic papaano ni Juan Buatista sya na baptized or bautismohan para maging isang x-tiano eh ng nabubuhay pa si Hesus wala namang nagap na bautismo ang pagpaligo nya sa tubig sa jordan ay isang paglilinis....

    eh bakit ang LUgar na Jordan ay Ghusul ang tawag sa kanila at bakit mga Muslim at Islam ang Relihiyon nila at ang mga karatig na bansa tulad ng Palestine Syria, Egypt, Saudi, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain,Turkey, Eua, LIbya Tunisia, Moroco, Algeria at ang Israel lamang ang ayaw maging isang x-tian dahil ayaw nya nga kay Hesus....

    bakiTttttt!!!!

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    Oi, ebragais, hindi mo ba alam may mga Jews na na tanggap na si Kristo?

    Ang Israel ayaw maging Muslim, kaya nga ginigyera niyo sila haggang ngayon, ang kaso hindi sila ipauubaya ng Diyos sa mga alagad ng halimaw ng book of Revelation.

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    Ikaw Ang Maysabi Nyan!!

    Quote Originally Posted by skye_phoenix View Post
    Oi, ebragais, hindi mo ba alam may mga Jews na na tanggap na si Kristo?

    Ang Israel ayaw maging Muslim, kaya nga ginigyera niyo sila haggang ngayon, ang kaso hindi sila ipauubaya ng Diyos sa mga alagad ng halimaw ng book of Revelation.
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    Is what you think about Chabad MYTH or FACT? You may be surprised. Take a few minutes to browse through these FAQ and you'll have a better understanding of what Chabad is all about.

    Q: Do you have to be Orthodox to participate in programs offered by Chabad?

    A: Chabad is inclusive and non-judgmental, and our programs are open to all Jews. In fact, the majority of people who participate in programs at Chabad are not Orthodox. The teachings of Chabad are imbued with the renowned Chassidic spirit and joy, but in no way is the commitment to an Orthodox lifestyle a prerequisite to one's acceptance at Chabad functions.

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    A: Chabad is not out to make anyone Orthodox. Chabad is an educational organization dedicated to helping every Jew, regardless of background, affiliation, or personal level of observance, to increase their level of Jewish knowledge, enthusiasm, and commitment. Chabad invites you to explore the complex areas of Jewish religion, tradition, and practice in an open-minded and non-judgmental atmosphere. All of Chabad's classes, programs, and services are designed to heighten the awareness and lend valuable insight into one's heritage, traditions, religious practice, laws and rituals. Each individual is invited to participate, study, and learn. Each individual makes his or her own respective religious lifestyle decisions at his or her own pace. Each mitzvah stands on its own as an important step in ones personal growth.

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    A: Different, yes. Secondary? No! The high standing of Jewish women in Chabad is central to the survival of Judaism. As the cornerstone of Jewish family life, the woman can attain a profound and meaningful spirituality, one that fulfills her deepest needs and aspirations opening fresh perspectives on self-understanding, growth and Torah knowledge. Ignorance, misconceptions, and outright myths about Jewish women have prevailed until very recently, turning many people away from an appreciation of Torah and a traditional Jewish lifestyle. Chabad is working to correct those misconceptions.





    "Every Jew is a letter in the Torah"

    What is a Jew ?

    A rabbi once offered the following analogy: "Every Jew is a letter in the Torah." But a letter may, at times, grow somewhat faded. It is our sacred duty to mend these faded letters and make G-d's Torah whole again."

    Rabbi Yosef Yitzchak of Lubavitch heard this, and objected: "No, the identity of the Jew cannot be compared to erasable ink on parchment. Every Jew is indeed a letter in G-d's Torah, but a letter carved in stone. At times, the dust and dirt may accumulate and distort ? or even completely conceal--the letter's true form; but underneath it all, the letter remains whole. We need only sweep away the surface grime, and the letter, in all its perfection and beauty, will come to light.''

    Who is a Rabbi ?

    Some Rabbis, he said, are like surgeons and others are like pilots. What is the difference between a surgeon and a pilot? When someone is in need of surgery, G-d forbid, he will be very cautious and search around for the best possible surgeon. Why? Because his life is at risk, and he wants to ensure that whoever is cutting him open is the most qualified expert in performing this particular surgery.

    Why then is it that when the same person books an airline flight, with all the risks of air travel, he doesn't go searching for the best pilot in the world?

    The answer is because the pilot is flying together with you on the airplane, and he is exposed to the same risk as the passenger. The surgeon, on the other hand, is not lying on the slab with the patient. If the surgery doesn't go well, G-d forbid, the surgeon remains intact [except for possible malpractice suits].

    Some Rabbis are like great surgeons. They are brilliant scholars, erudite legal experts, eloquent orators. Many of us who see a Rabbi as an 'outsider,' one who is not in the 'same boat' with us, will go searching for the best surgeon. We will look for the greatest scholar and expert. However, there are Rabbis who are like pilots - they may not be the best, but they are in it with us. Our problem is their problem. Our celebration is their celebration.

    We are not looking for 'perfect' Rabbis; we are in search of Rabbis who humbly appreciate the value of Divine souls and know that we are all sacred souls struggling in an agnostic world.

    Warmth From Within

    The story is told about a pious Jew who, every year for the high holidays, would begin walking by foot to his Rebbe. Now this was no easy task, because the weather was usually freezing and snowy at that time of year in Russia. One year, on a lonely road in the middle of some snowy forest his "batteries finally ran out"; his legs simply would not move another step.

    He was on the verge of collapsing in the snow when suddenly he heard something in the distance. It was a wagon filled with large barrels, and it stopped before the freezing Jew. "Hey Moshke!" The wagon-driver yelled " If you can find a place, jump in!" . With renewed strength the Pious Jew gratefully grabbed the hand, and pulled himself up onto the wagon.

    After a few minutes huddled between the barrels he was abruptly reminded that he was freezing,. That was when he noticed a small spigot sticking out of one of the barrels. With a shivering hand he turned the handle over the spigot. No, it wasn't wine or oil, , it was...vodka! "Ivan" he yelled to the driver "I need a little of your merchandise here, Can I take a small cup?" "Of course, my friend" shouted the driver over his shoulder. The second cup was better than the first, and in a minute he was warm.

    Upon His Arrival to his Rebbe's Court , he immediately gathered everyone around him and said he wanted to tell them something. "Today I learned a very great lesson." He began, . "You know that the Torah is compared to water, right? The Torah is supposed to make you warm and happy, and that is why we need to study with our fellow Jew-- to make them warm and happy. Torah includes all kinds of water, so Kabbalah must be the vodka of Torah, right? ""Well, I just discovered that a Jew can be surrounded by barrels of Kabbalah , by a sea of Torah, and still be cold, even freezing to death.

    "But... if just a little bit goes INSIDE... Ahhh. That is a completely different story! Then he becomes warm and alive. In fact then, he can even warm up the whole world around him as well..."

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