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    What Ateneans Do Wrong After Graduating

    What Ateneans Do Wrong After Graduating

    I was having dinner with my boss and her husband (all three of us Ateneans) when we talked about the difference with how Gloria and Noynoy sees life. Gloria being the realistic one and Noynoy being the usual, ideal Atenean. Then her husband started narrating about how only few Ateneans become successful in life at the age of 40, with his roster of friends as a perfect example. People at the age of 40 who still don’t own a car and cannot even settle down for once. Or worst, they just realized the right thing to do to become successful but it was too late already. And here are the things we talked about over dinner, and his advice to fresh graduate Ateneans like me. And this made sense, I am telling you. THIS WILL BE MY DIRECTION IN LIFE.

    1. Having our heads up “on the hill” a.k.a too much self-esteem/ Atenean pride

    The first thing that I realized when I worked is wherever you work, you can never use your school as your ticket to success. It can be an advantage for you at first, but if you only use the school name as your claim to fame, then you’re doomed. He said that the flaw of his Atenean employees (he has 120 employees all over the Philippines, btw) is that they NEVER would want to report to someone who came from a school which they think is too low for their standards. They believe that they’re smarter than their boss, who for example came from AMA or STI. But ofcourse, there’s a reason why that person became the boss. And that’s one thing you don’t have that’s why you’re the employee. Ateneans always assume that because they graduated from a good school, they should always get the jobs that would fit their high standards. And I have noticed this with my friends who always wonder why I stick to my job even though I only photocopy and print most of the time, and do errands. ARteneans always expect job to be convenient. But all things always start from scratch, and you start at the dirt bottom of it all. And if I had to photocopy, then I’d do it, because it’s part of my job. And this is what we lack, this right attitude called HUMILITY.

    2. We have the right education, but not the right attitude: Humility


    He told me about how he learned humility the hard way. He used to have the Atenean attitude of being so mayabang, complaining too much (I used to do this, and ALL of my working friends complain a lot, and compare bosses too). And this is one thing we should get rid of. Because for one, employers would prefer hiring people who would do EVERYTHING, even though it’s not part of your job description, because it only shows that you are a very good asset to the company. You are bringing so much to the table that the boss will give you more opportunities to excel because you’re willing. If you had to commute to faraway places, buy flowers in the afternoon, buy this and go to the office on Saturday, or even deliver things yourself because of the lack of manpower, YOU SHOULD DO IT. Because it only shows how determined you are to keep your job. Stop computing if your salary would compensate for the difficult things that you’d do. You should be so good that you can replace your boss. You are so good that he/she needs you so much to function. Why would they hire someone who does not make things happen? Who will just let the situation pass and wouldn’t move mountains to give the boss decent answers or suggestions?

    3. The Employer Thinking vs. The Employee Thinking: Thinking LIKE A BOSS

    To be the best worker, you should think as the EMPLOYER. How? You should always be wary of all the things your boss needs, prefers, etc. Will my boss like this attitude? What will my boss think if I say this? or that? Will this be good for the company? What else does he/she needs for the next day? What else should I do so that he wouldn’t worry? You should be good in assessing the things your boss likes and needs, because its also part of you becoming the boss someday. You are doing good in work and at the same time you are honing yourself to becoming the next boss by thinking like a boss, and not thinking like an employee. Over-think, over-analyze, be AHEAD of the game. If you keep on thinking like an employee, you’ll be an employee FOREVER.

    4. Having side goals - for GROWTH

    The wrong attitude that people have is that they are so narrow-minded with opportunities. I could say that I am doing well on this part, because I am working now for my dream job. My boss’ husband said, that while you have your work now, and EVEN IF IT’S NOT THE JOB YOU WANT, you should be good because it will prepare you for the work that you’ll have to do once you have the job you want. It’s not necessary that you start with your dream job, like what I said, humility - accept the job even if it’s not your dream job, and do good with it because it will be your first step in mastering the art of working. It’s also good that you have goals on the side and you are open to other opportunities because it will make you grow. It will inspire you to dream bigger and achieve that almost impossible goal. Save up for it if you really want it. If your dream is to become a dancer, even if you think it won’t sustain you for life, money will come to you if you keep on doing what you like and you have the right attitude. It may be a long road, but if you really want it, then you’ll get it no matter the consequences.

    5. Keeping the FAITH. Avoid short-cuts.

    We Ateneans always want the SHORT-CUT. But the way to success, is always long and winding, and VERY HARD. For my boss, it took them more than 10 years to reap the good life. At first they said, you will feel afraid because you are clueless of what will happen in the future. Everybody will have that phase. But IF YOU WORK HARD, AND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT ATTITUDE, of course God would notice and give you the blessings you deserve. At the age of 40 most people ask, how come God never gave me the opportunity? God always gives us the opportunity, but we never found the right attitude that came with the opportunity. And this includes the long wait. Work hard and blessings will come — TREMENDOUSLY, and you’ll never know. Like what they said, they couldn’t imagine that they have gone this far because it used to be, that all things were uncertain. But they kept on working hard. 10 years is a long way to go, but it’s all worth it.

    6. Having the right people around you — BE SUPPORTIVE of your partner

    Get a partner who wouldn’t pull you down. If your partner needs to go home late to do over-time, you better support him/her. It’s for your future. Both of you needs to sustain each other’s passion for work because it will be the thing that you will bank on when you will have a family. Encourage your partner to do better even if work is really hard. If you trust that both of you will end up together, then quit arguing about not having enough time. If you clearly understand both of your goals, then you will inspire each other and compromise for that lost time instead of dwelling too much on how toxic work has become.

    7. Being men and women for others — THE RIGHT WAY


    We Ateneans, are SO opinionated that we believe so much our opinion would change the course of the world. But the truth is, real life beyond the school grounds SUCKS BIG TIME. It’s so complicated, full of doubts, it’s something you cannot describe but you have to experience it. We should stop talking too much — pointing out faults of others, praising ourselves that we do the right things all the time when in fact we only blabber a lot. Being real men and women for others means you have to WORK FOR IT. For example, having a successful company would also mean getting more employees and providing opportunities. It’s not always about service and practicing humility by going to typhoon victims. It’s also about making others lives more bearable, more stable, giving them growth. And when you do this, you are not only changing someone’s life for a day by giving out cash donations, or being a volunteer, you are CHANGING THE COURSE OF THEIR LIVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. You ARE MAKING A LONG-TERM CHANGE that will alter the difficult situation of the people who deserve it.

    I couldn’t agree more on what we talked about and I want you to share this with other Ateneans. I hope I wouldn’t be bashed for this post. You know naman some Ateneans love correcting grammar and seeing faults on the opinion of others. I just want others to be aware and make the right head-start. So let’s take this by heart and make that successful future a reality!

    -AMDG-

    SOURCE: http://the-beautiful-fight.tumblr.co...ter-graduating

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    Do you agree on this? Personally, I have a few Atenean friends/relatives and not all of them are like this. All I can say is everyone should take note of this and not just the Ateneans.

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    sa BP talaga?

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    mods, can you move this to the working filipino or to the campus chat forums?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerox_machine81 View Post
    saan ba dapat?
    Dito sa Ateneo de Manila University.

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    The Ateneo is overrated.

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    my_2_cents

  7. #7
    ^ I think so too. Some Ateneans think highly of themselves just because they're Ateneans. Also, some people think too highly of Ateneans just because they're Ateneans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ubermensch View Post
    i suggest to the working filipino instead because if its in Ateneo's thread lang, sila lang makakabasa nyun. I wanna see the outsiders' opinion on this.

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    working filipino

  10. #10
    Thank you for sharing this. ) Good read.

  11. #11
    Sana walang school bashing na mangyari dito.

    On topic:

    Too much generalization.

    While some of what the writer said is true, I would like to point out that not all Ateneans have attitudes like what was stated in item #1 and #2.

    I'm from ADMU myself but I never thought that I was better than the graduates of other schools.

    My boss is from one of the schools mentioned above and I can say that he is waaay better than me.

    Yung school pride na yan kahit saang school meron niyan, hindi lang sa ADMU.

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    Disconnected from Reality jonslaught's Avatar
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    Ba't restricted lang sa Ateneans, by the way? I've felt that some Lasallians also show the same characteristics, though I know only a few of them.

    Curious lang

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    ^ Pwede rin naman siguro magsulat tungkol sa idiosyncrasies ng alumni ng ibang universities. Nagkataon lang na Ateneans kasi yung participants sa conversation na nabanggit sa simula.

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    I have a friend from HR who interviewed an Atenean. His asking salary was way too high because he said he is from Ateneo and he has too much self-esteem. They are inclined to hire him but he is too proud and cocky about his being Atenean...

    Fact is: I started in a bank, I am from a public university but me and my Atenean and Lasallian batchmates received the same starting salary

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    just because you're from "the Ateneo" doesn't mean you are better than the rest of the people applying for the job position...

    buti pa si manong nakarating sa Dubai at limpak limpak na pera pinapadala sa Pinas..etong Atenean... sa call center bumagsak... hahahahahaha....

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    Amen to that TS.

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    Attitude and the ability or failure to handle peer pressure and influence are formed and ingrained in the home. Ang school parang playground lang yan.

    Even families have their perceived standards and expectations that puts pressure on the young graduate, causing him to seek short-cuts.

    Problem also arises when a person attaches monetary value to his disposition and expect that others treat him based on how much he has spent, how much he has in his wallet or how much he can pay.

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    Thanks TS. Pa-xerox nga nitong storya na 'to....

  19. #19
    points 1 & 2 lang applicable sa inyo dre. the rest of it are actually good advice and every employee should have that kind of mindset. thanks

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    +1 You got it!

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