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  1. #4561
    Quote Originally Posted by jingdalagan View Post
    i didn't know you're that much of a critic of Juan Luna. in my turf kasi, ang madalas namang batikusin si Antonio Luna
    i admire his paintings at kung sa artistic merit nun, wala akong masabi. in fact, one of my most cherished experiences is to see the spoliarium in all its bare greatness at the national museum. pero ang sabihing nationalistic o pro-independence ang mga painting nya, i think that's superfluous. national painter yes, but national hero... mas deserving pa si quezon, emilio jacinto at si lapu-lapu (kahit wala pa noong idea ng national identity sa panahon nya). 2 cents.

  2. #4562
    Quote Originally Posted by svadhisthana View Post
    i admire his paintings at kung sa artistic merit nun, wala akong masabi. in fact, one of my most cherished experiences is to see the spoliarium in all its bare greatness at the national museum. pero ang sabihing nationalistic o pro-independence ang mga painting nya, i think that's superfluous. national painter yes, but national hero... mas deserving pa si quezon, emilio jacinto at si lapu-lapu (kahit wala pa noong idea ng national identity sa panahon nya). 2 cents.
    kung tutuusin, may mga nationalists diyan na deserving din of the title national hero. nationalism is never a bad thing as long as you don't exceed that it evolves into racism

  3. #4563
    Quote Originally Posted by saltynutz01 View Post
    saan ang turf mo Jing? para bang SAYO ANG TONDO akin ang CAVITE? lol
    Kapampangan turf

    anyway i found this link about Antonio Luna and it's pretty interesting

    Quote Originally Posted by saltynutz01 View Post
    Thank you for sharing this article. Sa Pinas kaya, papatok kaya ang subscription base premium cable? pero marami naman mga different cable companies dyan sa pinas diba like sky cable, muntinglupa cable, etc? Yung FOX Filipino Channel hindi ba sya premium cable like HBO or SHOWTIME?
    tingin ko, oo, hindi naman darami ang Philippine cable channels kundi ito emerging market. ang pinagkaiba nga lang ng HBO and Showtime sa Fox Filipino Channel, dahil nasa test broadcast stage pa lang ito, wala pa siyang matatawag na "originals". let's face it, karamihan ng mga teleseryeng palabas dun ay mga reruns ng mga natapos na teleserye ng GMA at TV5. kapag nagawan ng paraan magka-exclusive programs din ng Fox Filipino halimbawa, there is a chance na magawa rin dito sa atin ang system na yan.

    with HBO, bago pa maere elsewhere ang Game of Thrones and their other series, ang initial telecast laging sa HBO. kapag maganda ang feedback, tataas ang subscription as shown in that article kung paano napalago ng HBO ang subscription base nila. they make it sound like 3 million subscribers is a minor number but still that's a solid start knowing that the other cable-based series are bleeding money. madalas na ngang gamiting example lately ang Mad Men kapag ang topic ay "How to Lose Your Subscriber Base".

    isa pang mahirap, our TV series are not season-based. madalas ang time-table na ginagamit based on my observation is 3 months. pag ratings are bad (or the feedback, even), cut short i.e. Machete. pag successful, go and extend kebs kung the story runs thin and the plots get exhausted to the hilt. di bale sana kung gaya ng CSI na lead character ang pinapalitan just to freshen things up kapag super ka-duper longest yard leveling na ang peg ng longevity ng TV series. kaso hindi. wala pa nga raw yatang nakaka-break ng record ng Flordeluna at Mara Clara (Juday and Gladys version) in terms of longest soaps aired sa Pinas

  4. #4564
    Quote Originally Posted by jingdalagan View Post
    Kapampangan turf

    anyway i found this link about Antonio Luna and it's pretty interesting



    tingin ko, oo, hindi naman darami ang Philippine cable channels kundi ito emerging market. ang pinagkaiba nga lang ng HBO and Showtime sa Fox Filipino Channel, dahil nasa test broadcast stage pa lang ito, wala pa siyang matatawag na "originals". let's face it, karamihan ng mga teleseryeng palabas dun ay mga reruns ng mga natapos na teleserye ng GMA at TV5. kapag nagawan ng paraan magka-exclusive programs din ng Fox Filipino halimbawa, there is a chance na magawa rin dito sa atin ang system na yan.

    with HBO, bago pa maere elsewhere ang Game of Thrones and their other series, ang initial telecast laging sa HBO. kapag maganda ang feedback, tataas ang subscription as shown in that article kung paano napalago ng HBO ang subscription base nila. they make it sound like 3 million subscribers is a minor number but still that's a solid start knowing that the other cable-based series are bleeding money. madalas na ngang gamiting example lately ang Mad Men kapag ang topic ay "How to Lose Your Subscriber Base".

    isa pang mahirap, our TV series are not season-based. madalas ang time-table na ginagamit based on my observation is 3 months. pag ratings are bad (or the feedback, even), cut short i.e. Machete. pag successful, go and extend kebs kung the story runs thin and the plots get exhausted to the hilt. di bale sana kung gaya ng CSI na lead character ang pinapalitan just to freshen things up kapag super ka-duper longest yard leveling na ang peg ng longevity ng TV series. kaso hindi. wala pa nga raw yatang nakaka-break ng record ng Flordeluna at Mara Clara (Juday and Gladys version) in terms of longest soaps aired sa Pinas
    Hello Jing,

    I believe yung MAD MEN they show it sa AMC, which is from a basic cable; not a caliber of HBO/Showtimes

    Doon sa longest series, I don't think hindi sya doable sa pinas kasi gusto ng mga tao yung fast phase na story.... I believe nainfluence sya from Korean soaps na short lang talaga lifetime. Okey naman iyon kasi we get plethora of shows to watch.
    Siguro doon sa season season ek ek, it might work if the series ay sitcom or weekly drama anthology... i.e. MMK, Home Along Da Riles, Magpakailanman, Pepito Manoloto.

  5. #4565
    Quote Originally Posted by saltynutz01 View Post
    Hello Jing,

    I believe yung MAD MEN they show it sa AMC, which is from a basic cable; not a caliber of HBO/Showtimes

    Doon sa longest series, I don't think hindi sya doable sa pinas kasi gusto ng mga tao yung fast phase na story.... I believe nainfluence sya from Korean soaps na short lang talaga lifetime. Okey naman iyon kasi we get plethora of shows to watch.
    Siguro doon sa season season ek ek, it might work if the series ay sitcom or weekly drama anthology... i.e. MMK, Home Along Da Riles, Magpakailanman, Pepito Manoloto.
    pwede rin.

    not sure if the exclusive TV show thing would work in Fox Filipino Channel but they might try

  6. #4566
    Quote Originally Posted by jingdalagan View Post
    pwede rin.

    not sure if the exclusive TV show thing would work in Fox Filipino Channel but they might try
    Bakit may work na FOX sa FOX Filipino Channel? dahil ba it's a Filipino affiliate channel of FOX network sa US? if kung ganun at uso naman ang mga remake or Filipino version of a US or foreign show, pwede siguro sila gumawa ng Filipino version of
    - GLEE
    - House
    - Bones
    - Terra Nova (cancelled) lol
    - Fringe
    - Simpsons
    - Family Guy --- "Tatay" lol

  7. Apr 1, 2012, 10:42 AM

  8. #4567
    Quote Originally Posted by saltynutz01 View Post
    BTW, Up to Volume 10 na ang AMAYA DVD.
    2 or 3 more volumes complete na AMAYA DVD.
    Maglalabas pa kaya ng DVD Box set?
    Sobrang bagal! Meron ka na ba upto 10?

  9. #4568
    Quote Originally Posted by jingdalagan View Post
    dahil binabasa rin pala ito ni svad, here's another one

    ===========================================

    Love that kills
    By: Ambeth R. Ocampo
    Philippine Daily Inquirer
    9:53 pm | Tuesday, February 14th, 2012


    By the time this column sees print the prices of long-stem roses and chocolates have gone down. If these flowers and sweets are beyond the “sell before” date they should be on sale by now. Dinner tables in romantic restaurants, rooms in short-time motels and motels masquerading as hotels can be booked easily by now making the date-less like me wonder why the fuss about Valentines? Shouldn’t love, devotion and sex be something constant 365 days a year 24/7 rather than an obligation on February 14?
    As I took my morning stroll in the mall I saw many messengers carrying bundles of roses and gift boxes – everything seemed destined for women, making me wonder what do men receive on Valentine’s? Friends in high-end shops said they were delivering small pieces of jewelry, some sent antique furniture. This must be the next splurge after Christmas, the last indulgence of the wealthy and devoted before Ash Wednesday and the 40 days of Lent. Some readers asked why I didn’t write anything yesterday, making me explain that this column only appears on Wednesdays and Fridays.
    “Balentimes” is something new in the Philippines. Not something Andres Bonifacio and Gregoria de Jesus knew about; besides, they were busy plotting and inspiring others to join the Philippine Revolution. Jose Rizal had at least 13 women in a long list of conquests and entanglements but nowhere does Valentine’s figure in this. Emilio Aguinaldo and his first wife Hilaria del Rosario were busy plotting and inspiring others to join the second phase of the revolution and the Filipino-American War. No time for chocolates and roses.
    What about our great 19th-century artists? Felix Resurreccion Hidalgo never married his model, his muse, his live-in partner of many years, Maria Yrritia. When he returned to Manila for a family visit, she was not allowed to stay in his mother’s home in San Sebastian Street, rather she was lodged in a hotel. Thus, Felix would spend most of his time painting in a “casa de campo” or vacation house in Santa Ana, by the Pasig where, it is said, he was joined by Maria. When he passed away in Barcelona in 1913 Maria brought home the body—no legal complications like that of the late Iggy Arroyo here—when she was invited by the family to settle in Manila as one of their own. Maria Yrritia returned to Paris to close Felix’s studio and settle his affairs. She packed what was left of his paintings and belongings and sailed. Alas, she never reached Manila, dying, it is said, in a shipwreck off the coast of Africa.
    Not all love stories smell of roses and taste like expensive chocolates. Sometimes love can kill. In the case of Juan Luna and his wife Paz Pardo de Tavera their love made the front-pages of Le Figaro and all the Paris newspapers on the morning of September 24, 1892. Figaro began its story thus: “The Villa Dupont was, yesterday morning, the theater of a bloody family drama.” In a fit of jealousy, anger and other emotions that mixed into a lethal cocktail called rage, Luna shot and killed his wife Paz and his mother-in-law Juliana Gorricho. He also shot his brother-in-law Dr. Felix Pardo de Tavera who tried to intervene, Felix survived with a wound on his chest. So sensational was this story that Paris feasted on it, but it is seldom mentioned in our textbooks where Juan Luna, the artist who created the moving allegory of the colonial condition “Spoliarium,” is memorialized as a patriot. We cannot have a murderer as one of our National
    Heroes, so the story has been retold with Luna “accidentally” shooting these women through a locked door he tried to open with a revolver rather than keys!
    While going over my file I came across “Villa Dupont C’est loin Hambourg” by Gerard Dautzenberg (Anjou: Herault Editions, 1990) sent by Celia Anna Feria then with the Philippine Embassy in Paris who accompanied me to visit the scene of the crime. We were fortunate to meet the present owners of the house who referred us to Dautzenberg, a historian, who had written about the Villa Dupont, actually it should be Villas Dupont, a group of houses in a very chic area of Paris that all share the same street address, 48 rue Pergolese. Luna rented not just a house but an adjoining atelier or studio that is now a separate 2-bedroom apartment. The murders took place in a second-floor bathroom where Luna, suspecting his wife of having an affair, shot her point blank. His meddling mother-in-law happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and when shot in the head was killed instantly. She fell into the bathtub. Luna’s wife was found on the floor by neighbors and the police, she died 11 days later. All this horror was witnessed by Luna’s son Andres who was in the bathroom with his mother and grandmother at the time. We can only imagine how traumatic this must have been for the child who later grew up and became one of pre-war Manila’s most accomplished architects.
    If one reads enough history one can see that love can be patient and kind, it can also be angry and murderous. Such are the events and emotions that make history engaging. These may not fit into the academics, love of synchronic and diachronic analysis but history is a long story of life and the more we know of it the more we know the past and ourselves.
    Comments are welcome in my Facebook Fan Page.
    Binabasa ko rin posts mo Jing, di lang ako nakapag-comment. Thanks for sharing, first time ko marinig ito about Juan Luna (2nd time na actually, first was your first post hehehe.) GRABE!

  10. #4569
    Quote Originally Posted by svadhisthana View Post
    juan luna. one of the nine individuals declared as national heroes by the national heroes committee. seriously, i can't see why.

    he has many paintings that extol spanish and western culture, or depict some of spain's best moments (like The Battle of Lepanto--a triumph of hapsburg spain). some even depict colonialism in a positive light, like these:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Juan_Luna.jpg
    Blood Compact of Miguel Lopez de Legazpi and Rajah Si Katuna

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Juan_Luna.jpg
    Spain Guiding the Philippines in the Path of Progress

    any fan of "white man's burden" ideology would have a field day with these paintings

    mukhang ang tanging exception lang ay yung sikat na spoliarium, pero ambiguous pa rin ang message nito. on one hand, it may simply depict the atrocities of pagan europe (as opposed to christian europe that banned the gladiatorial games). on the other hand, it could be a veiled depiction of spanish atrocities, as popularly interpreted. but for an art that's considered one of the icons of 19th century philippine insurrection, the picture is surprisingly shy of showing any colonial associations. unlike el filibusterismo that confronts colonial problems head on.

    ang painting ay kasing ambiguous yata ng kanta ng eraserheads
    at ngayong sinulat ni ambeth ocampo ang article na yan, wala na tuloy pinagkaiba si juan luna dyan sa subjects nung upper half ng painting nya (the bloodthirsty pagan romans)

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Spoliarium.jpg
    I am with you Svad.

  11. #4570
    Quote Originally Posted by mrblvrfrcda View Post
    Sobrang bagal! Meron ka na ba upto 10?
    hello mrblvr, wala pa akong AMAYA DVD Volume 10... nagpapabili pa lang... lol

  12. #4571
    Quote Originally Posted by saltynutz01 View Post
    Bakit may work na FOX sa FOX Filipino Channel? dahil ba it's a Filipino affiliate channel of FOX network sa US? if kung ganun at uso naman ang mga remake or Filipino version of a US or foreign show, pwede siguro sila gumawa ng Filipino version of
    - GLEE
    - House
    - Bones
    - Terra Nova (cancelled) lol
    - Fringe
    - Simpsons
    - Family Guy --- "Tatay" lol
    actually medyo lame except the "Family Guy" remake. (sorry)

    Quote Originally Posted by mrblvrfrcda View Post
    Binabasa ko rin posts mo Jing, di lang ako nakapag-comment. Thanks for sharing, first time ko marinig ito about Juan Luna (2nd time na actually, first was your first post hehehe.) GRABE!
    nagiging interesting kasi ang history kapag ang deleted parts na ang nae-encounter mo eh. tapos bigla mong nauunawaan bakit natuto ang Pinoy magsulat ng BI blogs.

  13. #4572
    bigla ko tuloy naalala na di ko na nadugtungan ang Bakunawa fan fic ko. for the meantime, nakahanap ako ng bagong idea from 9gag.


  14. #4573
    speaking of the Fox channels (actually i've never seen an episode)


  15. #4574
    Quote Originally Posted by ll_borderline View Post
    sabi nga ni amaya kanina sa ST kakatayin nila si dian lamitan eh



    ito pala yung tinutukoy ni saltynutz01 na "shaky cam treatment" na sinadya para ma-censor ang violence in combat scenes. ganitong treatment din ang ginamit sa Hunger Games sa first fights by the cornucopia. ang pinagkaiba nga lang, mas magalaw ang method sa Hunger Games. nakakahilo panoorin sa sinehan lalo na kung malapit pa sa big screen ang upuan mo

  16. #4575
    Quote Originally Posted by jingdalagan View Post
    ito pala yung tinutukoy ni saltynutz01 na "shaky cam treatment" na sinadya para ma-censor ang violence in combat scenes. ganitong treatment din ang ginamit sa Hunger Games sa first fights by the cornucopia. ang pinagkaiba nga lang, mas magalaw ang method sa Hunger Games. nakakahilo panoorin sa sinehan lalo na kung malapit pa sa big screen ang upuan mo
    sa unahan ka talaga umupo to watch Hunger Games?
    nakakahilo kapag nasa unahan... I agree with you... like ko rin yung
    amaya's shaky cam treatment compare sa Hunger Games

  17. #4576
    Quote Originally Posted by saltynutz01 View Post
    sa unahan ka talaga umupo to watch Hunger Games?
    nakakahilo kapag nasa unahan... I agree with you... like ko rin yung
    amaya's shaky cam treatment compare sa Hunger Games
    hindi ako, yung isang nanonood sa Greenbelt ng advance screening ng Hunger Games, naubusan ng upuan, ang natira na lang yung malapit sa screen.

    sa Trinoma ako nanood, buti na lang maaga ako bumili ng ticket para makaupo sa likod

  18. #4577


    "...ang alinmang kapangyarihang inagaw at naangkin sa pamamagitan ng karahasan ay hindi nagtatagumpay kailanman."



    "Walang tunay na kaligayahan ang pusong puno ng poot."



    "Ang pagiging masaya ay isang pagpapasya."

  19. #4578
    OT: May re-run pala ng Encantadia on foxfilipino starting april 9.

  20. #4579
    Quote Originally Posted by WhitePetalMaiden View Post
    PIKA PIKA ALERT


    sana totoo ito (notorious pa naman sa kuryente si WPM)

  21. #4580
    Quote Originally Posted by pikoy75 View Post
    OT: May re-run pala ng Encantadia on foxfilipino starting april 9.
    ayos! sayang di pa available ang Fox Filipino sa probinsya

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