2012 Philippine Box Office Thread

[15805]

hello sorry to makiki-disagree lang ako sayo

di naman siguro disappointing ang 50million bawi na SC sa production cost at marketing

di okay ang 25 Million kasi may take pa din ang movie houses lets say 25%, then tax unless Graded A tax free and Graded B 50% less tax

kaya ang 20 Million lugi...sabi nga ni mother liit mata liit kita....do the math you'll know

okay lang na magdisagree ka. Sure, why not?

gusto ko lang sabihin kung bakit OKAY lang ang boxoffice gross ng A Mother's Story and My Cactus Heart: kasi hindi naman sila MAJOR movie ng Star Cinema. Parang alam naman yan ng mga nasa forum. Sabihin na nasa Regal Movies lang ang levels ng production and advertisement cost nito, kahit papaano bawi na sila. Hindi rin naman kasi mataas ang expectation ng tao sa movies na ito eh. kahit siguro Star Cinema, mababa lang ang expected gross nito. Kaya nameet lang nila ang expectation ko. Okay lang.


Disappointing for Every Breath U Take. For a movie na nirelease ng SC for the month of MAY, disappointing ang result niya. Yung previous May movies like Here Comes the Bride, In The Name of Love, BFF, Caregiver/ LAHAT sila lumagpas ng 100 Million. Im not saying, nalugi, disappointing lang. Magkaiba yun.

[lifehouse232]

It really boils down to production cost. No ifs, no buts about it. A flop, by definition, is a movie which fail to make their money back. If the loss is hugely disproportionate from the cost, then it's a "bomb". If a movie made some money, it's a hit. If a movie's success goes beyond expectation, then it's a blockbuster hit.

Part of the problem which seem to plague this message board, and most social networking sites, has nothing to do with a film's quality or success. I think, it's mostly partisanship. The ABS-CBN crowd will heckle a film from GMA films and vice-versa, the GMA crowd will heckle a film from Star Cinema...it's very counter-productive in promoting FILIPINO films, and very childish, if you really think about it.

People seem to take some sadistic delight whenever a film flops. So, they tend to hold films which gross over P100M as the benchmark for success, and everything else are "flops"...even if it's rarely the case, again, if you factor in cost and other revenue streams (like dvd sales and tv airings).

Yes, net income and profit margins are more important than revenues. But net income only becomes relevant when you have all the data on hand, when you know how much the box office receipts and production costs are.

For the purposes of this thread, I think it's still better to use gross revenues in determining a film's box office success precisely because the public don't have complete data on every film's total cost. How would we know which film earned the highest net income when we don't have the data that would allow us to compute the profit margins? How can we accurately say that a producer is happier with an 18million grosser versus a 50million grosser when we do not know for sure how much that producer spent to make each film? How can we be unbiased with our opinions when we do not have the proper metrics to follow?

[mariemilby]

Baka kaya ganyan si Mother Lily ay masaya na siya sa pagpproduce ng movies at di siya masyado gumagastos sa marketing. Minsan nakikipag tie up lang siya with GMA para mapromote dun etc.

Kung iisipin niyo ang prod cost, magkano ang marketing-promotional cost? Mas mahal ad rates ng abs-cbn sa gma. Feeling ko lang, with Star Cinema and GMA Films, its free lang to advertise sa mother networks nila. Kung iaapply mo advertising rate nila sa promotion ng movies, malamang ang taas nun. Nakabundle na ang movies and TV.

For Star Cinema this 2012

Disappointing:
Every Breath U Take, 50 Million

Okay:
A Mother's Story, 25 Million
My Cactus Heart, 25 Million

Surprise Hit:
Corazon, 50 Million
Born To Love You, 30 Million (opening)

Blockbuster:
Unofficially Yours (140 Million)

according to someone I know from abs, DISAPPOINTING din ang results ng Born to Love You, in fact , Star CInema gave it a grand premiere night, patunay na they had a high expectation for Coco Martin at the box office him being a very popular TV star. (Corazon did not have a grand premiere night)

Plus Born To Love You was shot in the States medyo may kalakihan ang cost. It again boils down also to the NET INCOME factor.

But the most disappointing of all is Every Breath U Take considering that Angelica was part of Here Comes The Bride and her previous romcom (and drama as well) movies did good at the box office.

[15805]

according to someone I know from abs, DISAPPOINTING din ang results ng Born to Love You, in fact , Star CInema gave it a grand premiere night, patunay na they had a high expectation for Coco Martin at the box office him being a very popular TV star. (Corazon did not have a grand premiere night)

Plus Born To Love You was shot in the States medyo may kalakihan ang cost. It again boils down also to the NET INCOME factor.

But the most disappointing of all is Every Breath U Take considering that Angelica was part of Here Comes The Bride and her previous romcom (and drama as well) movies did good at the box office.

If we factor in the 'coco martin' effect, di pa naman tried and tested sa commercial boxoffice at sobrang sugal na ipair siya kay Angeline Quinto. Yung Noy nasa 10 Million lang ata, yung Sayo Lamang nasa 50 Million?! So kung yung biglang sulpot na movie mo eh mag open ng 30 Million Pesos habang andyan pa si Snow White, MIB at kapwa Star Cinema movie mo, surprising lang talaga yun di ba? Kung meron man grand premiere night eh dahil isa si Coco sa biggest stars ng dos ngayon at andun ang cast ng Walang Hanggan, ang top rating tv series sa metro, mega manila, luzon, visayas mindanao. Kailangan talaga ng 'grand' premiere night.

[renz7]

naalala ko tuloy ang superman returns dahil sa net income. kaya nga disappointing ang superman returns dahil hindi maganda ang roi niya though kumita din naman ng multi million sa us at sa buong mundo. kaso matindi lang talaga ang production expense nila, nasa $200m yata?

kaya hindi na tuloy si brandon routh ang superman.

[April*]

according to someone I know from abs, DISAPPOINTING din ang results ng Born to Love You, in fact , Star CInema gave it a grand premiere night, patunay na they had a high expectation for Coco Martin at the box office him being a very popular TV star. (Corazon did not have a grand premiere night)

Plus Born To Love You was shot in the States medyo may kalakihan ang cost. It again boils down also to the NET INCOME factor.

But the most disappointing of all is Every Breath U Take considering that Angelica was part of Here Comes The Bride and her previous romcom (and drama as well) movies did good at the box office.

Sa states ba talaga shooting ng BTLY? Gaano katagal yung scenes sa states. Kasi Pinas lang ang pinakita sa trailer. Mapanood nga.

[April*]

according to someone I know from abs, DISAPPOINTING din ang results ng Born to Love You, in fact , Star CInema gave it a grand premiere night, patunay na they had a high expectation for Coco Martin at the box office him being a very popular TV star. (Corazon did not have a grand premiere night)

Plus Born To Love You was shot in the States medyo may kalakihan ang cost. It again boils down also to the NET INCOME factor.

But the most disappointing of all is Every Breath U Take considering that Angelica was part of Here Comes The Bride and her previous romcom (and drama as well) movies did good at the box office.

actually parang my cactus heart lang ang expected gross ko sa BTLY, around 25M lang.

Tapos yung EBYT, expected gross ay more than 100M kasi piolo at angelica p yan.

[lifehouse232]

according to someone I know from abs, DISAPPOINTING din ang results ng Born to Love You, in fact , Star CInema gave it a grand premiere night, patunay na they had a high expectation for Coco Martin at the box office him being a very popular TV star. (Corazon did not have a grand premiere night)

Plus Born To Love You was shot in the States medyo may kalakihan ang cost. It again boils down also to the NET INCOME factor.

But the most disappointing of all is Every Breath U Take considering that Angelica was part of Here Comes The Bride and her previous romcom (and drama as well) movies did good at the box office.

Anong Born to Love You was shot in the States? Teka teka, inaalala ko lahat ng eksena dun parang walang kinuha sa ibang bansa. Sa ibang probinsya meron. Pero sa States wala.

I think Born to Love You proves that just because you're a big TV star doesn't mean that your movies will be box office hits. For example si John Lloyd. Hindi naman super taas ng mga ratings ng TV shows niya pero ang lalaki ng kinita ng movies niya.

[irresistiblestar]

Anong Born to Love You was shot in the States? Teka teka, inaalala ko lahat ng eksena dun parang walang kinuha sa ibang bansa. Sa ibang probinsya meron. Pero sa States wala.

I think Born to Love You proves that just because you're a big TV star doesn't mean that your movies will be box office hits. For example si John Lloyd. Hindi naman super taas ng mga ratings ng TV shows niya pero ang lalaki ng kinita ng movies niya.

another one is Sarah Geronimo bigger movie star than tv star.


may mga tv star na malakas lang sa tv like Kim and Marian.

[spiglao2]

Acshuli mga movies lang naman ng Hollywood ang madaling malaman kung kumita o hindi dahil maraming available resources online. At hindi rin naman secret ang binayad na talent fee sa mga lead actors

[gelaiqteegram]

ang dami namang insider dito .... nakakaloka....pwes ilabas ang SALN nga mga bossing nyo ng makita ang production costs ng mga movies nila...huh!

[gelaiqteegram]

sabi ni Kris Aquino malaki daw ang budget ng KimiDors and the temple of kyeme ....isa pala si Piolo sa producer nito...magkano na kaya ang kinita nito as of now?

[irresistiblestar]

mahal talaga dahil sa SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA pa sila nagshoot. mas mahal talaga kapag ibang bansa kaya nakakatawa dito iyong isang nagsasabi na hindi daw mas mahal kapag shoot sa ibang bansa.. hindi siguro kung nilangoy nila papunta doon


feeling ko makakabawi Kimi, ang gross? abangan ang BOM tomorrow.

[Midway]

Marami ang nagsabi na malaki daw ang gastos ng LMA dahil sa Australia ang shooting? Iilang tao lang sila ang dinala doon, dahil nagtipid nga, tumulong na nga si Angel sa trabaho ng production staff
Magkano lang naman kaya ang gastos ng Star Cinema sa marketing nun sa tv. ilang days lang yun pino-promote dahil ongoing ang filmfest. Di tulad ng ibang movies, na isang buwan pa bago ang showing, tadtad na sa tv marketing.
At hindi libre ang tv marketing ng Star Cinema sa sarili nitong istasyon.

[asher_carla]

Pag producer ka-ROI ang mahalaga
Pag fans ka- total gross ang mahalaga dahil yun ang nakikita ng madla at mga katunggaling fans.lol
pag artista ka- alin kaya ang mas mahalaga?yung nakikita ng mga fans o yung nakikita ng mga producers?

[pinoybizsurfer]

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[bb_thate]

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[audreyjane]

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[gamemaster]

excuse me gamemaster, Let the Love Begin and I Will Love You grossed above 100M. baka young sinasabi mo ay young The Promise na nasa above 80M and final gross.

Till I Met you and movie ni Regine at Robin na hindi kinagat ng publiko.

Well, maybe you should check the various GMA Annual Financial Reports posted in the GMA Investor Relations website.

Till I Met You was the highest grossing GMA movie for the year 2006 with a theatrical gross of more than 90M. If IWALY grossed more than 100M then wouldn't it be declared the highest grossing movie for that year?

As for The Promise, it grossed 60M as per the 2007 FR.

And if you review the disclosures for the other years, you'll find out that Let The Love Begin grossed 110M and My Bestfriend's Girlfriend grossed 107M.

just check the FRs first.

[gamemaster]

We can't blame people if they're too fixated with just the grosses of movies as most lists and reports only show the theatrical grosses of movies. Lagi kaya nating naririnig ang linyang highest grossing movie pero hinding-hindi ang most financially successful movie.

Still, I think this discussion is good. At least it can make people think harder before labeling a movie as flop or labeling an actor as not bankable.