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    Erap Estrada seeks vindication as Manila Mayor in 2013

    Erap seeks vindication as Manila Mayor, Gibo lost election but won credibility

    By the way, this writer wishes to share news received from a high-ranking incumbent government official who told me that Estrada is planning to make an unprecedented and historic run in 2013 as mayor of Manila city versus Mayor Alfredo Lim. Erap’s running-mate will reportedly be former Manila Mayor Lito Atienza.

    Why would a former president run for city mayor? The government official replied to me that Erap still wants vindication in history from those he believes unjustly removed him from power in 2001.

    Erap reportedly also wants to settle scores with Mayor Lim whom he previously supported in his mayoralty run. Erap reportedly also wants to showcase his leadership capabilities and pro-poor advocacy by governing the Philippines’ most famous capital city.

    http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=706806


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    Erap eyeing Manila mayor post - spokesman


    A year after his failed presidential re-election bid and with still more than a year before the 2013 midterm elections, former President Joseph “Erap" Estrada is entertaining thoughts of joining the mayoralty race in Manila, his spokesperson said Sunday.

    While he is not directly confirming or denying his plans, Estrada is “toying with the idea" based on the suggestions of political allies, said one of his media officers, Ferdie Ramos, in a telephone interview with GMA News Online.

    The ousted president will possibly stage a run as mayor of the nation’s capital to continue his pro-poor advocacy and to “settle issues" with incumbent Manila Mayor Alfredo Lim, according to Ramos.

    Ramos said an Estrada candidacy for Manila mayor will be “a walk in the park," considering the number of poor residents in the city, with whom the former actor is largely popular.

    On Estrada’s supposed issues with the incumbent mayor, Ramos said the former president’s camp “felt betrayed by Mayor Lim."

    There were “certain projects" for the poor that Lim did not implement, said Ramos, who did not give any more specifics. “Marami siyang pangako na hindi ginawa sa Maynila," he said.

    A long-time mayor and resident of San Juan, Estrada was born in Tondo, Manila. If he pushes through with and prospers in his mayoralty bid, he will follow the lead of former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo as a politician who took on a lower position after stepping down from the presidency.

    'An unprecedented and historic run'

    One of the first news items on Estrada’s plan to run for Manila mayor appeared on the Philippine Star on Sunday, with columnist Wilson Lee Flores citing “a high-ranking incumbent government official" as a source.

    The source, according to Flores, said Estrada “is planning to make an unprecedented and historic run in 2013 as mayor of Manila City versus Mayor Alfredo Lim."

    “Why would a former president run for city mayor? The government official replied to me that Erap still wants vindication in history from those he believes unjustly removed him from power in 2001," Flores wrote.

    Estrada was dethroned in 2001 following allegations of corruption. He was found guilty of plunder by the Sandiganbayan in September 2007 and sentenced to reclusion perpetua. He was, however, pardoned by then-President Arroyo about a month later.

    The columnist also said Erap “wants to settle scores" with Lim and “showcase his leadership capabilities and pro-poor advocacy."

    Estrada’s running mate will possibly be former Manila Mayor Lito Atienza, Flores said.

    Flores reported these details as part of his review of the new book Ambition, Destiny, Victory: Stories from a Presidential Election by investigative journalists Chay Hofileña and Miriam Grace Go.

    Isko sending feelers, too?

    Ramos, meanwhile, confirmed that Atienza’s name is indeed being floated as Estrada’s possible running mate, as the former Manila mayor is one of Estrada’s closest friends. Ramos said the current Manila vice mayor, Isko Moreno, has sent feelers presenting himself as Estrada’s possible vice mayoralty candidate, too.

    Moreno is also said to have plans to run for Manila mayor, but GMA News Online could not independently confirm this as of posting time.

    “Nagsabi si Isko na kung sakaling tatakbo nga si Presidente, hindi na siya tatakbong mayor. Pero sana i-consider siyang vice mayor," Ramos said.

    Ramos, however, denied Estrada’s supposed desire for vindication in eying the Manila mayor’s position. The former president’s second-place finish in the 2010 elections is enough vindication for him, Ramos said.

    Revealing the inside stories of the 2010 presidential elections, Ambition, Destiny, Victory says Estrada was after “complete vindication" when he ran again for president.

    For Estrada, “vindication meant ‘becoming president again to have a re-trial,’ being in a position to order a fresh trial of his own case and prove that he was unconstitutionally removed from office," according to the book, which is based on interviews with over 60 campaign insiders, strategists, pollsters, and media and communications experts.

    The book adds, “He wanted to prove that despite his conviction by what he called a kangaroo court, he was not a criminal. This was the only kind of vindication that would satisfy the wish that his late father made to him the first time he was proclaimed mayor in 1969: ‘Wala akong hihingin sa iyo. Huwag mo lang sirain ang pangalan ng pamilya ko.’" - KBK, GMA News

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    Pareng Cuch, ano masasabi mo dito?

    Parang si Mayor Lim ang iboboto ko sa 2013 ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatLeviathan View Post
    A long-time mayor and resident of San Juan, Estrada was born in Tondo, Manila. If he pushes through with and prospers in his mayoralty bid, he will follow the lead of former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo as a politician who took on a lower position after stepping down from the presidency.
    Naku, una San Juan now pati Maynila. Then aalis sa pagka-Mayor then tatakbong presidente uli. Sino iiwanang mayor ng Maynila? Baka kamag-anak din ng mga Estrada. Woooot!

    Baka magalit si Asiong nyan!!!

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    San ba ang bahay ni Erap sa Maynila? Di ba taga San Juan sya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JobyBryant24 View Post
    Naku, una San Juan now pati Maynila. Then aalis sa pagka-Mayor then tatakbong presidente uli. Sino iiwanang mayor ng Maynila? Baka kamag-anak din ng mga Estrada. Woooot!

    Baka magalit si Asiong nyan!!!
    Dapat si Gov E.R. Ejercito na lang ang tumakbong mayor ng manila. total naman blockbuster yung Asiong Salongga the movie niya eh

    muntik pa siyang best actor doon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatLeviathan View Post
    Why would a former president run for city mayor? The government official replied to me that Erap still wants vindication in history from those he believes unjustly removed him from power in 2001.
    If this is vindication, can I also say PGMA has been vindicated by winning in Pampanga as congresswoman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by razzer_rising View Post
    If this is vindication, can I also say PGMA has been vindicated by winning in Pampanga as congresswoman?
    May bad blood kasi si Erap kay Lim. Let us also remember in 1998, they met in the presidential elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnar View Post
    May bad blood kasi si Erap kay Lim. Let us also remember in 1998, they met in the presidential elections.
    Thanks. So this is a vindication kasi matatalo nya yung isa sa mga nemesis nya na si Mayor Lim. Let us see who the chinese community in Manila will support. Interesting kung kapwa tsinoy nilang si Lim or si Erap na malapit din sa Chinese community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razzer_rising View Post
    Thanks. So this is a vindication kasi matatalo nya yung isa sa mga nemesis nya na si Mayor Lim. Let us see who the chinese community in Manila will support. Interesting kung kapwa tsinoy nilang si Lim or si Erap na malapit din sa Chinese community.
    They also had a falling out. Lim turned his back to Erap during the Edsa 2, Lim was his former DILG Secretary. In 2006 or 2007? Estrada also booted out Lim in their party. He was also quoted "We won't miss him" . Kumbaga sa election na to, payback ang gusto ni Erap.

    Let's just see regarding the Chinese community. Some of their brethren do not like Lim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnar View Post
    San ba ang bahay ni Erap sa Maynila? Di ba taga San Juan sya?
    nakabili na siya sa Tondo eh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnar View Post
    San ba ang bahay ni Erap sa Maynila? Di ba taga San Juan sya?
    He has a quantity of properties here and abroad.


    I wouldn't mind Erap being the Mayor of Manila...he might even clean that filthy place politically and literally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razzer_rising View Post
    Thanks. So this is a vindication kasi matatalo nya yung isa sa mga nemesis nya na si Mayor Lim. Let us see who the chinese community in Manila will support. Interesting kung kapwa tsinoy nilang si Lim or si Erap na malapit din sa Chinese community.
    para makamit ni Erap ang vindication kay FPGMA, he should challenge her at Lubao, and ran for Congress

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    Btw I think Erap will win sa Manila. Masa karamihan ng voters dyan and Erap is malakas sa masa, right? especially those who will vote based on charm and popularity, in short yung mga perennial voters ng artistas. If manalo sana wag na syang maging corrupt at ayusin na nya ang Manila, ituloy nya sana yung beautification projects ni atienza. I think yung baywalk now is not as lively as nung time ni atienza.

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatLeviathan View Post
    para makamit ni Erap ang vindication kay FPGMA, he should challenge her at Lubao, and ran for Congress

    good idea. lets see who will win in Lubao, PGMA or Erap?

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    Wala sa chinese community yan. Nasa mga squatters yan na andyan pa din all around Manila. Naku, di na ako magugulat kung si Erap pa din mananalo dyan.

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    Kung ang San Juan nga hindi niya napatino eh Maynila pa kaya? Isinusuka na nga siya ng mga taga San Juan eh.

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    any idea kung ilang votes ang nakuha ni Erap noong 2010 Presidential elections sa City of Manila?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papichulo168 View Post
    Kung ang San Juan nga hindi niya napatino eh Maynila pa kaya? Isinusuka na nga siya ng mga taga San Juan eh.
    Seriously? di ba si Guia Gomez ang mayor dun?

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    ^
    Nakupo si Guia pa. Actually si JV nagpapatakbo ng San Juan by remote. Useless figurehead lang si Guia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papichulo168 View Post
    ^
    Nakupo si Guia pa. Actually si JV nagpapatakbo ng San Juan by remote. Useless figurehead lang si Guia.
    Sabi mo kasi "sinusuka na sa San Juan" pero bakit sila pa rin ang naka upo? Actually, never sila nawala dun.

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