Peanut Gallery: Menorrah vs. Totnak: The 1st Century Church completely apostatized

[manies_flip]

but can we read that in the bible ?

Psalm 147:5

Great is our Lord and mighty in power;
his understanding has no limit.

[manies_flip]

nice intro's! I might learn some good essay strategies from this.

[krams2]

^ ang mabuting daan ay nasa kabilang bundok pa... ang daan ng INC ni Manalo ay nasa ligaw na daan



walang angkinan!

opinion is free

unless you believe the prophecy that the church continously fulfills from rags to riches from one's to millions from the far east to the far west.

Not even you can't stop the mission of bringing back the son's and daughters to the one true church

the last work of salvation the master plan of God in ages

[SmartDessa]

JUDGING CRITERIA


1. Appeal

in tagalog, pambobola.


and that, my dear friends, why I avoid debates.

carry on.

[theotech]

bird of prey? ano kinalaman nun sa apostasy? heto na nga ba ang sinasabi ko e

attention debaters: establish nyo muna kung pareho ang unawa nyo sa "Apostasy" at "Complete Apostasy". Establish nyo rin kung ang ang "Hades" dahil sa mga RCC friends natin Apostasy = Hades.

hahhaha.. may promise kasi sya saken sa kabilang thread that he will explain the "bird of prey" sa debate na ito. It's about Isaiah's prophecy na sabi nila na si Manalo daw ang fulfillment. Bali konek sya sa topic since pag may apostasy may restoration at yun daw ang trabaho ng "bird of prey"

[theotech]

Psalm 147:5

Great is our Lord and mighty in power;
his understanding has no limit.

So what's the connection of this verse to my question above ? Care to show your exegesis ?

[manies_flip]

So what's the connection of this verse to my question above ? Care to show your exegesis ?

that God only knows

[jeric92002]

I am representing myself and my beliefs on this debate. I guess there’s no special need to expound on that. As what my respectable counterpart mentioned in his introduction, this discussion isn’t an official Catholic vs. INC debate but rather, a civilized discussion between two people who are sitting on different sides of the fence but are willing to talk through their differences with courtesy and respect.
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Ganda naman hehe. Di tulad ng ibang INC 1914 members dyan pag hinamon mo ng debate e ilalaban ka sa ministro at kailangan daw LIVE para official haha.

[krams2]

bakit ba natatakot kayo kung haharap kayo sa LIVE DEBATE??? diba kayo ang hitik na hitik makipagdebate sa INC para mapabagsak niyo kami ayaw niyo gawing opisyal bakit? hindi niyo ba kayang panindigan ang stand niyo at puro anonymous lang ang kaya niyo?

parang si soriano lang ah uki payn

Soriano-->> sinabi ko bang lalaban ako sa iglesia? WALA NUN WALA NUN WALA NUN

wagas!

[kuroihikari]

in tagalog, pambobola.


and that, my dear friends, why I avoid debates.

carry on.

If that is indeed "pambobola", you'd actually do quite well.

[razzer_rising]

I like the introductions of Menorrah and totnak. Both seem very calm and also confident though I like Menorrah's form and style in writing more. But still good job to both guys. I really thought it would be boring but this looks interesting. Hope I dont get bored in the middle of this debate.

[Kraven]

bakit ba natatakot kayo kung haharap kayo sa LIVE DEBATE??? diba kayo ang hitik na hitik makipagdebate sa INC para mapabagsak niyo kami ayaw niyo gawing opisyal bakit? hindi niyo ba kayang panindigan ang stand niyo at puro anonymous lang ang kaya niyo?

Remember the five students who got tortured and butchered in an INC basement dahil "napikon" yung mga INC deacons sa isang basketball game ?

I'm not generalizing that all INC are murderers, what I'm pointing at is that you can't blame forumers if they don't want to risk their safety by exposing their true identity in a live debate.

[krams2]

Remember the five students who got tortured and butchered in an INC basement dahil "napikon" yung mga INC deacons sa isang basketball game ?

I'm not generalizing that all INC are murderers, what I'm pointing at is that you can't blame forumers if they don't want to risk their safety by exposing their true identity in a live debate.

if that story is true shame on them they should be excommunicated in the church.

see you are using that as an escape goat unang una LIVE ngayon kung sino ang unang uminit ang ulo at mangulo sigurado talo sa paniingin ng mga nanonood

tingin ko naman hindi isusugal ng INC ang reputation nito sa isang live debate ngayon kung kaya niyong isugal ang tapang niyo dito you can always address to the central office your challenge and they are more than willing to accept the invitation sa tinagal tagal na ng pex at ng dabiriyins wala naglakas ng loob KAHIT ISA

[ElCid]

Salamat na lang at natuloy. Isang malaking sampal sa mukha ng mga PEXer na hanggang ngakngak lang pero di naman lalaban ng discusyon - dapat doon sa mga yun ignore na lang DAHIL SILA MGA SALING PUSA LANG NAMAN DITO LOLS.. Yung mga di kayang tumindig sa online formal debate lalong lalo na yung NAGHAHAMON NG DEBATE, dapat di na lang makisali sa mga discusyon dito sa PEX dahil ginagawa na lang palusot pag nasukol ang paghahamon ng debate pero hindi sila haharap kungdi ministro.

Katibayan lang na puede ang online debate and it doesn't have to be a live debate dahil sino ba naman ang mag-aaksaya ng panahon makipagdiscusyon ng live when we just want to exchange ideas on the internet? Yung mga gusto ng live debate sana magsilayas na lang dito sa PEX at doon na tumira sa PLAZA MIRANDA o mag-antabay na lang sa central. Di ko alam kung ano ginagawa nila dito eh live debate naman pala preference nila't pinipilit mga tao DITO eh gusto lang dito eh online? Halatang palusot na lang ang ginagawa.

Our best regards goes to Menorrah. Despite our differences you have earned our respect. Happy Holidays.

And to our comrade tots - we wish you well and we are behind you.

Ateo Good Job as moderator. From now on di na kita aasarin lol promise . Now nobody can dislodge you as my favorite Atheist - except moochie kung aamin siya na siya atheist lols. I'll be including you in my prayers.

[kleng44]

If the first church was totally apostatized then how can the people be saved before 1914 ?

Romans 2:

12All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, 15since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.)

[nikeairviturin]

Noong una, kontra kayo ng kontra kay Menorrah!

Kesyo magpunta sa central para sa debate, kesyo hindi official.

Pwede naman pala eh. Pinaglololoko nyo lang ang mga pexers dito.

Ano kaya yun!

very articulate introduction by bro Mennorah

We are behind you on this, so people in ROT see the light why we are doing this. Not to hurt them but tell them to search for the old path where the true church of christ is the right way to salvation.

[nikeairviturin]

Noong una, halos pigilan at ikulong ng mga INC members dito si Menorrah. Tapos ngayon puro kahipokrituhan ang ipinakikita.

Pwede naman palang makipagdebate, mga takot lang talaga!

[nikeairviturin]

Krams buking na buking na kayong mga INC members dito. Mga kesyo bawal daw makipagdebate at pumunta sa central sa live debate.

Puro kasinungalingan lang naman pala!

Bulok ang style nyo.

Takot lang naman pala kayong makipagdebate kaya ayaw nyo!!

Buking!

bakit ba natatakot kayo kung haharap kayo sa LIVE DEBATE??? diba kayo ang hitik na hitik makipagdebate sa INC para mapabagsak niyo kami ayaw niyo gawing opisyal bakit? hindi niyo ba kayang panindigan ang stand niyo at puro anonymous lang ang kaya niyo?

parang si soriano lang ah uki payn

Soriano-->> sinabi ko bang lalaban ako sa iglesia? WALA NUN WALA NUN WALA NUN

wagas!

[Equis]

Although I don't believe the first century church completely apostatized, Menorrah has a very good and meaty introduction.

When I say I don't believe, I can back it up with some verses in the Bible but I will not show the verses but see if Totnak's religion the compiler of the Bible taught them very well.

[Ischaramoochie]

I like how this debate is starting. hopefully both sides (and their supporters) keep a level head in discussing the points raised both in the actual debate thread and in this peanut gallery. Both threads will be displayed in the RoT Hall of Fame thread for everyone to see, and for those who have participated to be part of the history of PEx RoT.