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  2. #5262
    Quote Originally Posted by sargo View Post


    one more damning evidence. corona has lost all the points in the court of public opinion.
    you got that one right. a damning evidence that the economy slowed down, the rise in hungry families and the cory admin's "gigi" is now being imported

    good job sargo

  3. #5263
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    akala ko ba yung article no. 2 ang malakas (SALN). ngayon lumiko na naman. may bago: 40% discount

    ang galing sa steering ng economy ng pnoy henyo. pati hunger tumaas.

    kaya nagwawala na naman si abcxyz dito eh.

  4. #5264
    Quote Originally Posted by pepsiblue View Post
    HELLO? kayo ang nag-akusa diba? the burden of proof lies on you. kayo ang dapat magbigay ng pruweba na ill gotten wealth yun. wala ka talaga alam no?
    (Wait a minute. I am not the prosec. But if you mnean I as the people, then, I accept the "you".)

    You are absolutely right. The defense has presented their evidences. When they are done, the defense will disprove those evidences, by arguments or by presenting their own evidence. Prove, Disprove.
    Then the prosecs will argue the defense's evidences, untill all premises of the case become clear. That is, if the EVIDENCE SUPPRESSION TEAM allows free flow of evidences.

    So hindi lang ang prosecs ang mag pro prove, po. Mag di disprove ang defense, thereby trying to prove their client rigt.

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    ang dami na ngang nabulatlat na evidences eh. pati almost irrelevant na mga dokumento nabuksan na. tapos may evidence suppression team pa?

    ang gusto ng iba dito, wala nang objection. anong klaseng trial yun?

    baka pati transcript of records sa ateneo + harvard + u.s.t. ni corona gusto na rin ng prosecution ipresenta? in the spirit of fairness, isama 'nyo naman pati transcript ng pnoy henyo.

  6. #5266
    kapag common sense pinairal natin......kitang-kita na ang punto ng prosecution!!!

  7. #5267
    Sa mga noybots kasi BETRAYAL OF PUBLIC TRUST = UNPOPULARITY of CORONA because the only place where the prosecution team is winning is sa media mileage courtesy of Inquirer, ABS-CBN and the likes na puros tuta ni abnoy.

    Kaya yan ang palalakasin ng mga prosecutor na ito para hindi man sila manalo sa rule of law, sa mob rule naman sila babawi.

    very pathetic government, parang walang mga bay@g, ayaw lumaban ng parehas.

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    Teka lang mga law student or lawyers ba kayo lahat dito?

  9. #5269
    Quote Originally Posted by sargo View Post
    lets not even talk about real property and cars, lets talk about high end cell phones. has anyone here ever got a 40% discount on a brand new high end cell phone like for example an iphone? lol

    its stupid to believe a company like megaworld will ever give a 40% discount to any client. really? seriously? lol
    ***** lang talaga ng analogy mo eh no?

    sige, ang sirang iphone ba naibebenta mo pa?
    ang iphone ba ngayon mababa ang demand?

    remember, megaworld said they gave 40% for defective units during the time na bagsak ang business nila.

    look at BB playbook. bumaba sobra ang presyo. look at nokia phones, super bagsak presyo.

  10. #5270
    40% discount for an unfinished defective condo unit, sold during the financial crisis of 2009 is not bad at all.

    makahanap lang talaga ng butas, kahit yung pinaka ridiculous reasoning eh papatulan talaga. sabagay marami naman silang napapaniwalang mga uto-u-tong masa sa ganyang reasonings nila.

  11. #5271
    Quote Originally Posted by sargo View Post
    corona will need to prove a lot of things a;ready. all of what has been revealed in the trial in the court of public opinion and in trial in any of the evidences that will be admitted by the court.

    it will take only 1 evidence to be admitted and if unexplained by corona is enough to convict him.

    in the court of public opinion, he has lost all the pints so far.
    kung sino ang nag-akusa, sya ang may dapat patunayan. rmember, presumption of innocence until proven guilty?

  12. #5272
    Quote Originally Posted by lemarXY View Post
    Teka lang mga law student or lawyers ba kayo lahat dito?
    that depends on topics, but pexers can become an instant doctor, engineer, etc. for now, theire all lawyers.

  13. #5273
    Quote Originally Posted by shintaro76 View Post
    I am an the usual factory worker. Not an engineer nor a researcher. I don't have any business and the bread winner of the family. But I was able to afford to buy a condo unit though I don't have an attorney in fact. All my transactions are in my name.
    By the way, I don't have allowances nor bonuses as well.
    I also pay lots of taxes here in Japan from residence tax to income tax. Name whatever taxes, I might be part of it.
    Ok. Let's play. How much is your monthly income? What do you spend for your family? Rent, food, education, etc. Meaning, magkano ang disposable income mo after all that?

    How much was that condo for?

    You see, My friend worked in the ME. all expenses paid. His siblings in the US were a bit envious, because they get good money, but had to spend most of it for living. They are all in the supervisory to managerial levels, yet they struggle.

    That is true. workers in the mid-east save more than those in western countries doing the same thing.

    So let us hear from you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemarXY View Post
    Teka lang mga law student or lawyers ba kayo lahat dito?
    oks lang yun. after all, this an open forum. wala naman sa loob ng korte. besides, sino ba ang kaladkad ng isyung ito para magkaroon ng trial by publicity at pairalin ang mob rule?

    oks lang yun..

    kung ang isa ngang abogado na punong mahistrado at may doktorado pa eh hinahamon sa usaping batas/legal ng isang walang naipasang batas ni isa, puwede eh.. dito pa kaya, open forum naman ito?

  15. #5275
    My cousin is just a mailman in the US. PEro he was able to buy a house and lot sa new york and new jersey. Walang wala yun compared sa isang condo sa pinas diba?

    Peterin and sargo, hindi lahat ng tao kaya nyo lokohin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Chester View Post
    Sa mga noybots kasi BETRAYAL OF PUBLIC TRUST = UNPOPULARITY of CORONA because the only place where the prosecution team is winning is sa media mileage courtesy of Inquirer, ABS-CBN and the likes na puros tuta ni abnoy.

    Kaya yan ang palalakasin ng mga prosecutor na ito para hindi man sila manalo sa rule of law, sa mob rule naman sila babawi.

    very pathetic government, parang walang mga bay@g, ayaw lumaban ng parehas.
    Kaming masa, may isip din naman. Kung walang common sense ang sinasabi at pinipresenta ng prosecs, ire-reject din naman namin, dahil walang control sa amin ang ang kinaiinisan nyong presidente.

  17. #5277
    Quote Originally Posted by sink View Post
    that depends on topics, but pexers can become an instant doctor, engineer, etc. for now, theire all lawyers.
    hahaha naglabasan ang mga frustrations sa buhay bigla?



    @blue_tracer okay lang naman talaga basta sigurduhin lang na kung magkokomento e alam kung ano ang pinagsasabi hindi lang porke napakinggan yun din ang sasabihin.

  18. #5278
    Quote Originally Posted by sargo View Post
    lets not even talk about real property and cars, lets talk about high end cell phones. has anyone here ever got a 40% discount on a brand new high end cell phone like for example an iphone? lol

    its stupid to believe a company like megaworld will ever give a 40% discount to any client. really? seriously? lol
    The president got a 100% discount on a brand new high end iPhone4S cellphone.

    Chieffy Caligdong - Azkals booter and PAF enlisted personnel - got a 100% discount on a brand new latest model Kia Rio subcompact.

    Anyway, using consumer products isn't really a very good analogy. Such products can only be available in the market when they are already completed, and that the consumers are completely sure that they can get their hands on them immediately. People investing on condominiums, on the other hand, run the risk of their investment going down the drain if the construction stops for some reason. That's why pre-selling is always cheaper - the company has to find ways to entice people to take a huge risk and buy.

    I admit, I'm not sure if we got a discount, but I'm definitely sure the reason why we own a Megaworld condominium in the middle of the MBD right now had been because my parents got the unit at a really good pre-selling price, at a really good payment plan to boot. And it's not a studio, either.

  19. #5279
    Quote Originally Posted by peterin View Post
    Kaming masa, may isip din naman. Kung walang common sense ang sinasabi at pinipresenta ng prosecs, ire-reject din naman namin, dahil walang control sa amin ang ang kinaiinisan nyong presidente.
    owwwwssss...parang hindi rin......I highly doubt nag-iisip talaga yung mga pumapanig sa mga kapalpakan ng prosecution team ...

    eh mismong mga prosecution team na nga ang umamin na maraming palpak sa grupo nila, then sasang-ayunan mo pa.

  20. #5280
    Quote Originally Posted by pepsiblue View Post
    kung sino ang nag-akusa, sya ang may dapat patunayan. rmember, presumption of innocence until proven guilty?
    Sa kasong ito regarding sa Ill-gotten wealth eto coming from ENRILE and CORONA MISMO:


    Enrile said they can determine later, based on the evidence presented, if Corona has the capability to buy the properties. The burden of proof will later shift to the defense, he added.


    ****************
    Corona's decision resolved impasse

    Meantime, Senator-judge Ferdinand 'Bongbong' Marcos Jr. said it was Corona's ponencia which gave them the idea how to resolve the impasse on the presentation of evidence in connection with his alleged ill-gotten wealth.

    In an interview with ANC, Marcos said they made use of Corona’s ponencia on July 15, 2003 in deciding that “if the recorded income can’t support the expenditure, then there’s presumption of ill-gotten wealth.”


    THE BURDEN OF PROOF WILL SHIFT ..crystal clear

    link: http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/01...-gotten-wealth

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