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Wow. A long time since I visited this lalaland! LOL.. Well, I think it's a good time since THE REAL QUEEN is now on the road and her tour is DEMOLISHING the Born This Reductive Way tour of that whining, lying, COPYCAT..
Let me start quoting this..
Now.. since wee-minded mongsters just LOVE to digest and decode "meanings" from the meaningless stream of shyt that Caca produces, let's digest and decode the inclusion of BTW in M's tour, shall we? Yep, we shall LOL
Look at the backdrop.
It's a moving image and the monster is mindlessly eating cans wholesale. What are their labels? There are the Madonna pointy bra & pony tail and the Bowie lightning. There are 2 ways to read this:
1. The monster with (or of) shades represents Gaga herself biting on the works of Madonna & Bowie, suggesting the all so apparent TRUTH that Gaga is devoid of originality; or
2. Little monsters mindlessly eating CANNED or REDUCTIVE VERSIONS- by shady Gaga- of works made by Madonna & Bowie.. Yep, as someone said, think of imitation crab meat in a can!
And Gaga, as we speak, keeps on churning out imitation meat.. like this minor thing:
Definitely Madonna says SHE'S NOT ME.
And with infinite good reasons!
NB: Madonna even dances Gaga's BTW "dance" waay better!
^ and what does Gaga have to say about that? one word: "NOTHING"
"she's not me", "monster eating cans". what else?
lets just face it, her(M) time has passed.
gaga has paid tribute to Elton J, Whitney, but not sure to an artist like her(M). That could explain her being bitteresa...
at may original pa ba sa panahon ngayon???...why can's she just move on???kaloka!
^^ I don't mind her covering Born this way on her tour but it is evident why she did it. She was affected but what Gaga did. I hope she really isn't that affected since it will only cause her bitterness and she doesn't need that emotion as she matures. Yes most of the bitterness came from a failed marriage. She has to be spiritually uplifted after this like she was on her ray of light days. And hopefully some really quality breakthrough music.
If I'm not mistaken, I think you're the neutral or the "I love both artist" one and that's nice.. but that glosses over the FACT that Gaga has been a DISRESPECTFUL PLAGIARIST whose douchebag azz needs to be taught a lesson or two on respect and basic manners.
If someone copies your term paper (in part or in toto), and he/she loudly proclaims his/her own greatness, will you just sit by and do nothing? Will you let injustice win?
Madonna spent intellectual, emotional, monetary, time and physical capital on her work, and NOBODY has the right to say it's just fair or ok for a lying plagiarist to get away with making a mockery of her hard-earned legacy or reputation..
Besides, Madonna is actually NOT bitter about it, that's why she's doing it in a super artistic and HUMOROUS way. But biting, of course. LOL
And, dear, MDNA IS quality music.. Gang Bang ALONE wipes out all of BTW.. not to mention the musical & structural inventiveness of Love Spent, etc..
As to her failed marriage.. yep, Madonna is using her art for catharsis.. and good for her audience, she's coming out with mind-blowing work as a result.. (just SEE the awesomeness of MDNA tour)
The kunt has NO right whatsoever to defend the indefensible.. Music experts say that BTW IS very much like Express Yourself, yet Gaga angrily said in an interview that that is "retarded"..
at paying tibute to that JEALOUS vileness Elton, who got his deserved humiliation during the Golden Globes just right after trying to humiliate Madonna! Unlike Madonna, Elton has been a "nostalgia act" for decades now and just banks on associations with others (westlife, princess diana, gaga.. and Madonna for publicity)..
As for Whitney.. ha! She almost directly dissed Gaga in an interview post Grammy (when Gaga shamelessly used her to parry Madonna-plagiarism talk just right after she copied Like A Prayer for her performance).. And dear, one of Whitney's last video'd moments was her CHEERING MADONNA on during the Superbowl.. and wistfully recalling her heydey as a competitor to Madonna.
Madonna doesn't need Gaga's tribute. Everyone has given theirs (Rihanna, Katy, Britney, Kesha, Kylie, Nicki, etc. etc.)..
Well, come to think of it.. Gaga is NOTHING but a tribute artist, not being original for even an ounce and all that
And let's see:
> M's Superbowl performance averaged 116M viewers in USA (4M more than the game itself!), making it the SINGLE MOST WATCHED TV MOMENT IN HISTORY;
her 20/20 interview was the highest rated in over a year for the show; her Norton interview DOUBLED its viewership from 2M to 4M!
Compared to Gaga: Only 4+M viewers for her MASSIVE TURKEY of a Thanksgiving special ; her hyped Oprah interview managed only 800K viewers!! And her The Simpsons "appearance" proved a huge ratings dud for the show.
> Without a twitter account then, Madonna goes into the record books in Feb. as the "MOST TWEETED ABOUT PERSON IN A SINGLE MOMENT IN HISTORY" with way over 10,000 tweets per second devoted to her! Gaga (w/her mongsters' multiple ghost accounts could NEVER! LOL)
> MDNA album-- despite the shockingly sparse promotion, managed to be #1 in 37 countries (a record #1 in all 51 itunes markets!).. This from an artist 30 years in the game!.. while BTW, despite the nonstop promotion and megahype managed to be #1 only in 21 countries! LOL
> MDNA Tour is creating huge buzz and headlines around the world (even minus the Gaga thing).. and proving once more that Madonna is light years above and beyond the high school level Gaga as a performer and artist.
> And Madonna is touted to "earn $500M this year". Way more than Gaga..
So, perhaps you didn't get the memo that this is STILL Madonna's world, and Caca and you are living in it,,
BUT, lo and behold... GAGA HAS INDEED RESPONDED!! MELODRAMATICALLY, I might add (well, per Gaga usual LOL)..
But since I'm busy atm.. THAT plus a LOT MORE juice and stuff will come a little later. I promise .. If that will keep this thread alive, and makes you all happy.. well, Ill oblige.
Last edited by cutthroaty; Jun 10, 2012 at 04:53 PM.
I'm not even gonna disprove your facts here coz it's just too many and i have no time to respond to illiterate delusional madonna fan like you.
You call Gaga a plagiarist? Whoaaa, how many plagiarism case did Gaga lose in the court? 0, in fact there's not even a single case filed. How about Madonna? Only 15. Lol, who's the copier now?
And btw MDNA is a huge flop, its overall sales is not even more than the first week sales of Born This Way when it was released. Madonna's time has passed 6094946839 years ago. The new queen of pop is Gaga, deal wit it
Are you kidddddddding me???
Duh!!!?? What do you expect? She's in a show with more than 100M viewers!!!> Without a twitter account then, Madonna goes into the record books in Feb. as the "MOST TWEETED ABOUT PERSON IN A SINGLE MOMENT IN HISTORY" with way over 10,000 tweets per second devoted to her! Gaga (w/her mongsters' multiple ghost accounts could NEVER! LOL)
Hintay ka lang pag si Gaga na ang nasa Superbowl, baka dumoble pa ang mga numbers na yan.
correction.. #1 in 22 countries. and at that time, 23 countries palang ang may iTunes nun, whereas nung time ni Madonna- more than 50 countries na. what do you expect?? na magnumber si Gaga in more than 50 countries??> MDNA album-- despite the shockingly sparse promotion, managed to be #1 in 37 countries (a record #1 in all 51 itunes markets!).. This from an artist 30 years in the game!.. while BTW, despite the nonstop promotion and megahype managed to be #1 only in 21 countries! LOL
Let's talk about how FLOP MDNA and MDNA's singles are..
If Im not mistaken, mas malaki pa ang 1st week sales ng BTW kaysa sa buong sales ng MDNA.. and guess what, lumabas na sa BBH200 ang MDNA.. : ang aga naman atah.
Wag mong gawing excuse ang lack of promotion. she promoted in a show with more than 100M viewers!!! and I thought she's THEEEE Queen??? Grabe, anong nangyari?? Bakit di man lang nag-Platinum ang MDNA sa US??
BTW WW Sales (1st week) - 1,921,000 copies
MDNA WW Sales (10 weeks) - 1,321,000 copies
Yeah right!!! Queen Madonna!!!
Per usual.. mongsters get their "facts" from out of their as$es.. from out of desperate thin air!
Truly.. Madonna, for the glaring melodic & structural similarity of BTW to EY has a STRONG cause of action against the SERIAL XEROX machine.. but M, bless her, chose a better way for redress: thru pithy vocabulary, intellect, and SUPERIOR artistry & work that leave no doubt her imitation remains FOREVER known as that.. a REDUCTIVE imitator
1. Tending to present a subject or problem in a simplified form, esp. one viewed as crude.
2. A visual definition:
As for MDNA, sure, it's not up to Madonna's usual standards, but heck, Bruce Springsteen's sold less and is considered a smash. It's coz she's MADONNA, the biggest and greatest female music star in history that, despite being 30 yrs in the biz when most if not ALL her contemporaries have either died or have gone to pasture, she's as vital as ever, hence the expectations..
And.. yup, she has NOT promoted MDNA like her life depended on it, in fact, almost ignoring any promotion.. unlike the Reductive one who WHORED herself & her derivative album endlessly everywhere and still got creamed by an album w/ less than half the promotion.. Oh, well..
If saying the TRUTH makes me a "hater" ( what a, yes, reductive way of using the word).. then so be it=kaaatkaat;63200264]
Oh well. Haters gonna hate.
Wow.. Even Madonna's missteps are FABULOUS!
look at that turn! that body! amazetastications! it sure is NOT like this:
Caca sure likes to shyt in everything she does, doesn't she?
Or is that what mongsters deludedly rationalize as "edgy"??
Haters gonna hate nalang.
Malapit nang kunin ng lupa si Madonna. Ampalaya!
It's just music. Sabi nga ni Lady Gaga music is universal, we understand one another through music.
OH MY GOD SHE'S SO ORIGINAL!
My last post about this in this LADY GAGA thread.
Well, one of you said M's time has passed.. so THERE, the proof of how WRONG he/she is. M just established an ALL TIME RECORD FOR ANY KIND OF SHOW IN HISTORY. And PLEASE. Superbowl halftimes are traditional moments for bathroom breaks w/ ratings often going down. Recent SB halftimes have been one disaster after another.. and Madonna was derided as NOT for the SB audience. Well, the POWER of Madonna showed everyone.. a RECORD 4M viewers more on top of the show's viewers; meaning, NO ONE went to the bathroom or got a cigar break, yet 4M more tuned in just for her! More than that, the show itself set new standards for performance spectaculars
And, YES.. against those Gaga shows.. Aba, aba, aba.. mukhang puro ITLOG ang inabot ng mga Gaga-related TV shows ah.. from that glaringly TRUTH OR DARE copycat HBO MBT Special, to that dreary trash Thanksgiving ordinary, to the Simpsons, to the Oprah interview! Etc.. Imagine, an obscure (& less distributed) show M was in got 5 times more viewers than that hyped Oprah thing! LOL.. Hmmmm... THESE should tell you something on WHOSE time has passed
So.. don't count on that Gaga SB.. esp. if Americans get to see her disastrous & unintentionally hilarious BTWB tour..
And FYI, the SB performance was more a promo for the TOUR (w/c was announced the day after) & not the album.. w/c came out a long TWO MONTHS (almost) away from the SB, with NO significant promo in between. So, yes, there was NO adequate promo. Not that Madonna cared, anyway. Kuha mo?
As to MDNA sales vs. BTW.. well.. I'll tutor you on that next.. See? Ang bait-bait ko!
Clearly shows how... DIM.. mongsters are.. Oh, well..
Now, let me TUTOR you on the intricacies of POP ART and how things work as artists..
The Marilyn Thing.
Madonna at the outset TALKED heavily about Marilyn in her work and how the Marilyn image and the archetype associated with her image intrigued her. So, from the start, Madonna was UPFRONT. But, the POP ARTIST that Madonna is, she was not content on showing Marilyn images-- w/c is actually FINE as Madonna is a POP STAR appropriating a MOVIESTAR'S image in her work. Madonna upended the Marilyn image and turned its meaning drastically, from one of being a VICTIM (w/c Gaga tries to bring back to get sympathy for herself-- w/c is a discussion for later) into one of POWER and SELF-DIRECTION. When we see the Madonna-Marilyn, we see the BOMBSHELL becoming the holder of sexual power, instead of the "male eyes or gaze" that traditionally controls her. That's why chauvinist males & self-loathing females (esp. in media) HATE Madonna.. coz she's not only truly sexy, she has BALLS. Bigger balls than most of them.
Besides, the Marilyn image ITSELF was fashioned after the original blond bombshel: Jean Harlow.. W/c is more the copycat thing coz Harlow was also a moviestar.
What Madonna did with Marilyn is akin to what Andy Warhol did with the Campbell's soup can.
This is the real can (although a much recent one)
And here's a Pop Art take of Warhol of the can
As you see, the can was designed by SOMEONE.. but Warhol recontextualized it on painting to give it a whole new meaning, a different dimension totally separate from the original designer's. Thus Warhol was NOT copycatting on the can's designer. KUHA MO?
Bring that to Gaga who copies from ANOTHER pop star; using a pop star's appropriation for her own. And Gaga is so DISHONEST about it, saying she did it by herself and talks as if SHE created what she "created". WTF.
That, dear monsters.. is what separates Madonna from the real copycat ways of Gaga. Caca just... COPIES. End of.
2. The Kylie thing
As EVERYONE knows, Kylie is one of the early Madonna wannabes. The good thing was that she's always been HONEST about it, about copying Madonna. She's a true fan. (She even tweeted recently a giddy good luck to Madonna for the MDNA tour premier!).. Kylie KEPT on doing homages to M in her shows and M returned the favor by wearing Kylie shirts and doing Kylie homages of her own. Thus there was a FRIENDLY back and forth. All in fun, all in awareness.
But.. LOL.. mongsters are so eager to catch on ANY hint of Madonna ripping off others that they totally lose the plot.. and show their MASSIVE ignorance of history and art.
Dearies.. what Kylie did on the Aphrodite Tour was GRECIAN THEMED: you know, ancient classical GREECE. The Greece of mythologic gods & goddesses. Look at the costumes! What Madonna did on the SB was pseudo-historical: EGYPT IN THE ROMAN ERA w/ a twist.. particularly, CLEOPATRA ENTERING ROME. M was doing more a Liz Taylor! Duh.
Now, quick, scan your encyclopedias or google and notice the difference between Roman/Egyptian vs. Greek!!
And you're an AGEIST to boot!
Tsk tsk tsk
Oh well.. it's not as if being drunk all the time like this
or getting high on cocaine w/c looks like this
will make anybody live LONGER, now is it?
Per usual.. mongsters are not using their brains.
Little Mongsters have this global reputation as being not the sharpest tools in the shed. Tools? Most definitely. Sharp? As a wall.
Now, this one more thing before I go to prep for another busy day ahead..
Yesss!! You got THAT right: QUEEN MADONNA!
And to give you a much needed kernel of logic.. we all know that all artists, esp. in the heavily youth-driven pop music world, have a trajectory of sales power. Madonna's trajectory is nothing short of true blue phenomenal: #1 in 37 countries and Biggest debut of the year-- for an artist 30 YEARS IN THE BUSINESS.
Thus it's but logical to compare her 3RD album, incidentally called True Blue (the "looks" & sound from which Caca copies til now), to the 3rd album (or 2nd and a half, whichever) of Caca, BTW.
True Blue: 21 Million sold (not merely shipped) for 1st year, and has sold way over 30 Million; 3 Hot 100 #1s
Born This Way: 5.6 Million sold in TWO years! 1 Hot 100 #1
Now.. when Madonna got her 1st Top 10 in early '84, Borderline, she has had NO song (single or non-single) charting lower than Top 10 (most within Top 5, including those w/ NO videos!).. until over FIVE years later in late '89 w/ Oh Father. That's an unprecedented run of Top 10s for a SOLO artist (without any of that "featuring" crap nowadays) until she herself broke that record..
Gaga.. less than 3 years after her 1st Top 10.. she already got a #29 charting, w/ a HEAVILY PROMOTED single!
and now, M still beats Gaga (the *supposed* new Queen) w/ an album topping in way MORE countries!
Yeah! Madonna IS Queen and always will be.. while the Reductive Copycat is the Queef of Pop!
Ooops.. Caca's melodramatic phooey reaction to M's diss & other goodies.. next time.. PWAMIS!
Last edited by cutthroaty; Jun 11, 2012 at 02:18 AM.