BS Math choices

[reshiram]

Saan da best mag take ng BS Math?primary choices are UPD, UPLB, ADMU, DLSU. secondary choices: NTU, HKU, HKUST, NUS? yan lang afford eh.. btw, im a 3rd yr hs student and I do really want to have my decision now malapit na mag 2012 eh.para d cramming.hehe..please also provide explanations. thanks

[TTJ]

"yan lang afford eh"


bakit secondary choices lang yung top Asian schools?

kung sa Pinas ka lang, UPD or ADMU lang.basta maniwala ka na lang.ayoko mag explain.

[curiouser]

bakit secondary choices lang yung top Asian schools?

I second the emotion.

Grabe, sana ako may ganun ding options dati, na kasama ng NUS sa aking mga considerations. Yan lang kasi afford eh. My folks can't afford to send me to Harvard or Stanford.

If I were you, I'd concentrate on getting into the schools first. That way, you'll be looking forward to a happy dilemma in the future.

And, any particular reasons why you're looking at just BS Math? As my PEx handle implies, I'm curious.

All the best.

[gs09]

Kung afford niyo naman ang top Asian schools, you might as well make them your top choices

Pero locally, UPD and AdMU for BS Math.

[jielun]

^ yup, locally UPd or ADMU. Between the two, UP has more PhD degree holders, wider research spectrum, etc blablabla (I dont think I have to elaborate further.)

If I were rich enough I would have gone NUS, NTU, HKUST. They're way better than UP in so many aspects.

[johnjoseph13]

Also, some math faculty members of ADMU are UP graduates.

[reshiram]

they are only a secondary choice kasi ang original plan ko, pag graduate studies nalang..however, if my math career will reach its peak next yr, like another international contest and or maka national stage sa pmo nxt yr or even be a contestant to IMO,(ambisyoso) haha, I would really consider studying abroad..hehe. At tsaka I have a dream na maging professor sa UP, haha so studying at UP might be the first step in achieving my goal and also makapag grad studies abroad..hehe

[reshiram]

So its now between UPD and ADMU, ang pagkakaiba lang siguro sa kanila yung mga profs, UPD may have more Ph.D. holders, wider research spectrum, etc blablabla, but i think ADMU profs are better, though mas maganda ang curriculum sa UPD.. ADMU profs are better because
1. kasi marami ang sa ibang bansa nag graduate studies lalo na yung nag stanford tapos princeton( sa UP ata wala)
2. usually yung mga IMO contestants ng bansa na hndi nagaabroad, sa ADMU pumupunta(as far as i know)
3. ang gaganda nung mga books na gnawa nila lalo na yung XP series, yun ang gmit namin ngayon.
4. karamihan matanda na kaya experienced na( sa UP kasi ang palagi kong nakikita sa website nila puro ang babata pa, yung iba nga fresh graduate like mr.pelias)
5. ewan..hehe

My reasons to consider UP:
1. talagang tinitikangala ** sa lugar namin( pag UP daw henyo na)haha
2. ang ganda nung curriculum and as far as I know pwd daw mging 3 yrs na lang yung whole duration ng study
3. gustong gusto ko talaga hehe.. tagal ko nang dream mag UP eh..hehe
4. madali sguro mag laude..hehe kasi 93 palang 1 na..haha..
5. lahat matatalino ang estudyante..hehe..
6. murang tuition
7. Many to mention..hehe

Tally board:
ADMU- 5
UPD-7

so winner is UPD!! haha

[reshiram]

BS math lang ang tinatanong ko kasi its my first choice in all universities obvious naman sguro kng bkit..haha..pero actually im such a multi-talented person at super dami talaga ng gusto kong course but only 2 are allowed sa mga application forms so, my first choice would be only bs math and 2nd are(depending on university):
1. bsm amf (ateneo)
2. computer eng - upd or dlsu
3. com sci -upd or dlsu
4. bs psychology (upd or ateneo)
5. chem eng -upd
6. creative writing - upd
7. physics -upd din mataas ang allowance sa dost scholarship...hehe
8. stat - upd or uplb
9. philosophy-upd or ateneo
10. bsbaa/ bsa - upd or BU

yabang..haha..

[leydee]

ADMU profs are better because
1. kasi marami ang sa ibang bansa nag graduate studies lalo na yung nag stanford tapos princeton(sa UP ata wala)

-Most PhD holders sa UPD IMath ay nag-aral abroad, at malimit din mag-post doc abroad.

2. usually yung mga IMO contestants ng bansa na hndi nagaabroad, sa ADMU pumupunta(as far as i know)

- Philippine delegation to IMO is headed by a UPD IMath professor, taga UP ang trainor, dun pa nga sila sa UP Math Building nagttrain.

3. ang gaganda nung mga books na gnawa nila lalo na yung XP series, yun ang gmit namin ngayon.

-Hindi masyado nagsusulat ng books and mga taga UP IMath, mas nakatuon kasi sa research and pagppublish sa journals. Pero ngayon, may mga book writing projects na rin sila and hindi kasi elementary or high school math books ang ginagawa nila. Mas nakatutok sila sa pagsulat ng libro on Higher Mathematics like Real and Complex Analysis, Differential Equations etc.

4. karamihan matanda na kaya experienced na( sa UP kasi ang palagi kong nakikita sa website nila puro ang babata pa, yung iba nga fresh graduate like mr.pelias)

-young instructors of UPD IMath teach lower math subjects like college algebra, trigonometry and calculus. For higher math subjects na para sa BS Math students, syempre mga doctor at experienced professors ang nagtuturo.

5. ewan..hehe

-ewa ko din eh. hehe nilinaw ko lang yung mga medyo hindi mo alam sa UPD IMath. At least ngayon, may idea ka na rin.

so ADMU-0, UPD-12 ?

Hindi ako familiar sa BS Math program ng ADMU so I can't compare. Pero yung sa UPD, medyo pure math ang approch sa undergrad. Tapos sa electives ka lang magkakaron ng applied math courses. Hindi ko kasi alam kung sa ADMU eh applied Math.

[johnjoseph13]

So its now between UPD and ADMU, ang pagkakaiba lang siguro sa kanila yung mga profs, UPD may have more Ph.D. holders, wider research spectrum, etc blablabla, but i think ADMU profs are better, though mas maganda ang curriculum sa UPD.. ADMU profs are better because
1. kasi marami ang sa ibang bansa nag graduate studies lalo na yung nag stanford tapos princeton( sa UP ata wala)

Hindi ka lang marunong tumingin sa website ng UPD Math. Mas hamak na mas maraming PhD holder sa UPD na nagtapos sa ibang bansa. Parang 10:1 ang ratio in favor of UPD. Tapos may mga pabalik pa na ng UPD galing ibang bansa dahil tapos na ng Ph.D.

2. usually yung mga IMO contestants ng bansa na hndi nagaabroad, sa ADMU pumupunta(as far as i know)

Magaling lang talaga manghikayat ang ADMU to the point of HARD-SELLING. Hindi yan ginagawa ng UPD (tulad ng ginawa ng ADMU kay Chris Tiu.)

3. ang gaganda nung mga books na gnawa nila lalo na yung XP series, yun ang gmit namin ngayon.

Nakita ko na yang textbook nila. Very high end nga. Pero hindi lang naman pagsusulat ng high school textbook ang ginagawa ng isang mathematician. Research dapat. At sa field na yan angat ang UPD.

4. karamihan matanda na kaya experienced na( sa UP kasi ang palagi kong nakikita sa website nila puro ang babata pa, yung iba nga fresh graduate like mr.pelias)

Again, di ka lang marunong mag-research.

5. ewan..hehe

Ewan ka talaga... Kaya sa Ateneo ka na.

[johnjoseph13]

My reasons to consider UP:
1. talagang tinitikangala ** sa lugar namin( pag UP daw henyo na)haha

Henyo ka ba?
Ipasa mo muna UPCAT bago ka mag-feeling.

2. ang ganda nung curriculum and as far as I know pwd daw mging 3 yrs na lang yung whole duration ng study

So, sa paiklian pala ng curriculum nakabase kung maganda ang course?

3. gustong gusto ko talaga hehe.. tagal ko nang dream mag UP eh..hehe

Well...sana'y hindi maging pangarap lang yan sayo.

4. madali sguro mag laude..hehe kasi 93 palang 1 na..haha..

assuming na makakatuntong ka ng 60 under Paras?

5. lahat matatalino ang estudyante..hehe..

Akala mo lang yun...

6. murang tuition

Mura ba yung at least 20k? Kung mayaman ka...

[curiouser]

The TS reminds me of another TS of a few infamous threads here.

[TTJ]

So its now between UPD and ADMU, ang pagkakaiba lang siguro sa kanila yung mga profs, UPD may have more Ph.D. holders, wider research spectrum, etc blablabla, but i think ADMU profs are better, though mas maganda ang curriculum sa UPD.. ADMU profs are better because
1. kasi marami ang sa ibang bansa nag graduate studies lalo na yung nag stanford tapos princeton( sa UP ata wala)
2. usually yung mga IMO contestants ng bansa na hndi nagaabroad, sa ADMU pumupunta(as far as i know)
3. ang gaganda nung mga books na gnawa nila lalo na yung XP series, yun ang gmit namin ngayon.
4. karamihan matanda na kaya experienced na( sa UP kasi ang palagi kong nakikita sa website nila puro ang babata pa, yung iba nga fresh graduate like mr.pelias)
5. ewan..hehe

My reasons to consider UP:
1. talagang tinitikangala ** sa lugar namin( pag UP daw henyo na)haha
2. ang ganda nung curriculum and as far as I know pwd daw mging 3 yrs na lang yung whole duration ng study
3. gustong gusto ko talaga hehe.. tagal ko nang dream mag UP eh..hehe
4. madali sguro mag laude..hehe kasi 93 palang 1 na..haha..
5. lahat matatalino ang estudyante..hehe..
6. murang tuition
7. Many to mention..hehe

Tally board:
ADMU- 5
UPD-7

so winner is UPD!! haha

sana Ateneo na lang minention mo. lahat ng sinabi mo about UPD,nakakainis eh.

[reshiram]

Grabe naman . haha

Again, di ka lang marunong mag-research.
- actually po natingnan ko na halos lahat ng profs ng upd sa website nila, however yung iba, walang info about them, yung iba nga wala tlgang picture


Most PhD holders sa UPD IMath ay nag-aral abroad, at malimit din mag-post doc abroad.
-ang sinabi ko lang naman marami ang nagaral abroad tapos sa up ata walang stanford o princeton sa kabila meron

young instructors of UPD IMath teach lower math subjects like college algebra, trigonometry and calculus. For higher math subjects na para sa BS Math students, syempre mga doctor at experienced professors ang nagtuturo.
- i know pero ang nabasa ko magagaling din daw yung iba

pure math naman **** ang gusto kong track kasi may balak akong mag prof din. admu would only be a choice..masyadong madaming ewan yung curriculum nila kung baga sa computer, bloatware. hehe.

Magaling lang talaga manghikayat ang ADMU to the point of HARD-SELLING. Hindi yan ginagawa ng UPD (tulad ng ginawa ng ADMU kay Chris Tiu.
- hndi naman lahat ng IMO contestantd pumupunta sa admu those who are wise enough still go to UP.. like yung isang prof si mr.ernie lope ba yun?

Nakita ko na yang textbook nila. Very high end nga. Pero hindi lang naman pagsusulat ng high school textbook ang ginagawa ng isang mathematician. Research dapat. At sa field na yan angat ang UPD.
-yah i know.. kaya nga gusto ko mag UP, kasi ngayon palang may gusto na akong research na ipropose..hehe(i have plans..hehe)

Henyo ka ba?
Ipasa mo muna UPCAT bago ka mag-feeling.

[johnjoseph13]

-ang sinabi ko lang naman marami ang nagaral abroad tapos sa up ata walang stanford o princeton sa kabila meron

So pag walang taga stanford o princeton hindi na magaling? Tsk, tsk,..something's wrong with your logic. Kung ganyan ka mag-isip, mag-Ateneo ka na lang.

- hndi naman lahat ng IMO contestantd pumupunta sa admu those who are wise enough still go to UP.. like yung isang prof si mr.ernie lope ba yun?

So since maraming IMO contestants na pumupuntang ADMU mas magaling na sila?

Hahayyyy!!!

[TTJ]

TS,balikan mo ang thread na to pag college ka na.

[reshiram]

So pag walang taga stanford o princeton hindi na magaling? Tsk, tsk,..something's wrong with your logic. Kung ganyan ka mag-isip, mag-Ateneo ka na lang
-haha..did i say ba na hindi magaling ang mga hindi stanford o princeton? ang point ko lang naman dun kasi it would nice na magkaroon ng teacher galing dun..im sure naman na super gagaling ng mga UP profs **** hndi sila gling stanford o princeton o mapaharvard at MIT pa yan. Mas kilala ko lang kasi yung mga prof nung sa ADMU dhil sa books nila.

o since maraming IMO contestants na pumupuntang ADMU mas magaling na sila?
- hindi nu, usually kasi dba mga taga private schools ang IMO contestants natin so they have the money to go to ateneo, but like me na taga public lang **** afford din naman ang admu.. I would really consider studying UP tsaka dba sabi ko mas maganda ang curriculum ng UP kaysa ADMU, kasi para sa akin parang madaming bloatware *** curriculum nila.

and for those na naiirita na sguro sa akin for having a different kind of thinking/logic, please understand, kaya nga nagtatanong ksi i really want to have a solid background b/w the two schools.. and since pagiging prof lang din naman ang goal ko at para matigil na ang tawanan niyo sa akin, UP na ang choice ko.. **** hndi ako pinapatake nung isa diyan.hehe..


So, sa paiklian pala ng curriculum nakabase kung maganda ang course
- hindi nu, ang ibig ko sabihin diyan, may nabasa ksi akong thread about summa cum laudes, and ang naka state dun yung isang summa na prof ngayon sa up si mr.vallejo ata, 3 yrs lang daw ang tinapos..ang point ko naman **, ok lang skin magoverload kasi sanay naman ako tsaka maganda siguro kung 3 yrs nlang para hnd ako msyado abutin ng katandaan pag grad studies.

assuming na makakatuntong ka ng 60 under Paras
-dba ang math 60-precal? dba yun ang 1st math subject ng mga math students sa curriculum nila? correct me if im wrong kasi may nababasa ako na kailangan daw mag math 17 muna o kaya math 11 and 14

The TS reminds me of another TS of a few infamous threads here.
-haha..yeah...si arkinx ba yun? hehe.. mas grabe naman ata yun.pati yung mga grades na pnost niya yung iba imposible..ako nga d masyado kataasan sa iba yung iba nga halos bagsak na sa curriculum namin.

sana Ateneo na lang minention mo. lahat ng sinabi mo about UPD,nakakainis eh.
-affected masydo?hehe. kaya nga i started a thread like this para malinawan ako..so far kasi yun alam ko, pag pasensyahan niyo na if i had said it that way, kasi again, gusto ko malinawan , 3rd yr palang ako and i still have a lot to learn many things..d katulad ninyo na sobrang dami ng alam..

[reshiram]

TS,balikan mo ang thread na to pag college ka na
-sure i will, and i will make sure that i will be a proud UPian too in the future..haha..im sure makakapasa din naman ako ng upcat **** papaano hehe **** d na maging oblation scholar..ok na..hehe.

- inedit..hehe.. *** kaya..dhil sguro dun sa statement na wag ka nang magtake ng UPCAT..hehe..(i dont mind these kind of statements actually eh..wala naman yan patutunguhan..hehe)

[DokTots]

To the TS,

Yes, you can finish BS Math in UPD in 3 years, just like what my older brother did. Besides the entire curriculum of BS Math, he also took electives. The downside is, you'll never have summer vacations because you DEFINITELY have to take advance summer classes.

Regarding the faculty members who didn't have international graduate degrees from your so-called Stanford and Princeton, just use your common sense! The UP Administration has been constantly battling this continuous "emigration" of the best UP professors to private universities and companies. Who's left at the university are probably not the best in terms of academic standing, but they are DEFINITELY the best in terms of teaching, because despite the temptation to leave in favor of higher pay, they stayed. Their hearts belong to this university.

You also have to be informed about graduate school, because your babbling non-sense and arrogance about your pseudo-intelligence is annoying. Those professors who may not have international degrees could easily have done their graduate theses abroad. A person could have earned his MS here at UPD but their graduate thesis was done abroad under the tutelage of a foreign professor. That's the case of my brother, who in his 2nd year of taking MS CS at UPD was sent to Tokyo under a full Monbukagakusho scholarship. He spent 2 years there working on his graduate thesis. He had 2 thesis advisors, 1 Japanese professor and 1 from UPD. In the end, he earned his MS CS from UPD.

If I were you, you should pursue Ateneo instead of UPD. Asar ang mga taga-UP sa mga MAYAYABANG na katulad mo. Just look at Mr. Pelias, napaka-simpleng tao, payak manamit, walang angas pero SOBRANG TALINO. 'Yang yabang mo, dalhin mo sa ibang lugar.

Again, IGNORANCE is not an EXCUSE. Ang sinasabi mong konti pa lang ang alam mo, IF YOU HAVE NOTHING GOOD TO SAY THEN JUST STFU!