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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Kent_210 View Post
    Parks is his team's MVP. But the real definition of MVP is the Most Valuable Player of the league.
    nakuha mo pre!

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Kent_210 View Post
    Parks is his team's MVP. But the real definition of MVP is the Most Valuable Player of the league.
    He still is. When in fact that he's the best player of the league. And again, his stats will do justice for him.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyVans View Post
    Yan ang hindi ko maintindihan.. Panong bwakaw?

    Top 9 si BRP sa assists. To give a clearer picture regarding this, he averaged more assists than the league's best PG in RR Garcia. And only .02 assists short of Kiefer.

    Panong bwakaw? Is he jocking up low percentage shots? He has higher FG% than the next four guys in the scoring list (RR, Nuyles, Jeric Teng and Jeric Fortuna).

    He's such an efficient scorer, averaging 20ppg in just 13.3 shot attempts per game.

    RR Garcia attempted 50+ more shot attempts the entire season, and still came up almost 4ppg short of his scoring average. Nuyles had same number of attempts with BRP and he came up with 5ppg short of BRP's scoring average. Jeric Teng had almost the same number of attempts and he averaged 6ppg less than BRP.

    I can't blame coach Eric for letting him shoot that much when he's scoring with such efficiency. Because it would be retarded not to do so.

    Can he get those numbers in Ateneo's system? His scoring should be down with 3-4 scoring options in Ateneo's line-up. But definitely, he would be much more efficient in scoring and his assists number should also be up. He was averaging 20ppg in just 13.3 shot attempts per game against the entire opposing defense concentrated on him. With Ateneo, he'd have an easier time scoring with coach Norman's set plays and having Salva, Ravena, Greg, and Long as scorers who the opposing defense needs to respect.

    ok, sa tingin ko lang naman, besides di ko naman napapanuod lagi laban ng NU..


    at isa pang sa tingin ko, ibigsabihin siya lang talaga marunong magshoot sakanila kaya lagi siya ang may score?


    as i said before, he's the MVP of his team.., but the MVP should be of the league..like what others just said..



    kung siya parin mapiling mvp, congrats parin, he's amazing talaga.. sana maggrow ang NU next season..

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyVans View Post
    He still is. When in fact that he's the best player of the league. And again, his stats will do justice for him.


    The grammar police has been put on alert. On topic, I guess if THAT'S your definition of an MVP, a player with awesome numbers but doesn't translate into overall team success, then the trophy does INDEED belong to Parks...

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by theeng69 View Post
    Residency is counted in the five year eligibility. Bobby Ray Parks spent a year of residency. Therefore he is only eligible for three more years after this season. But he did say so himself that he won't be spending too much time in NU. He said that he may go back to the US to play in the NCAA or devote his time for Smart Gilas.
    I know people who know important people. Parks is going to play the next three years kasi he's got no way out na rin because if he decide to go back to US he's going to do some eligibility again, it will cost him a lot of time in his amateur years. And on the other hand, Slaughter might try entering the PBA draft next year.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyVans View Post
    He still is. When in fact that he's the best player of the league. And again, his stats will do justice for him.
    if he's the best of the league, his team should have been in the final 4..no offense..


  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by shanebattier View Post


    The grammar police has been put on alert. On topic, I guess if THAT'S your definition of an MVP, a player with awesome numbers but doesn't translate into overall team success, then the trophy does INDEED belong to Parks...
    Again, his stats and HOW VALUABLE HE IS to his team's success will back up his MVP trophy.

    And btw, stop crying over spilled milk. Move on.

  8. #68
    Naiintindihan kita Judy. Who wouldn't want an MVP na galing sa team na sinusuportahan natin?

    However, I agree with most of the posts here. May/maraming mas qualified kesa kay BRP. I think the UAAP board should revisit the selection process for UAAP MVP. Dissapointing yung selection process nila kun totoong si BRP nga ang magiging MVP.

  9. #69
    So if everything is really based on stats alone, I guess the mythical 5 should look like this:

    C Slaughter
    F Salva
    F Parks
    G Nuyles
    G Ravena

    These were the top 5 in statistical points after the eliminations.

  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudyVans View Post
    Actually, it's already been factored. Masyado lang talaga ridiculous stats ni Parks. It's Parks' 66.6 vs Slaughter's 63.4
    No doubt about BRP's crazy statline.

    The wins are factored in yes, but not the losses. If the losses were included, a term like (Games Lost x 2) should be subtracted before dividing the result by the number of games played. Note that this is just my suggestion only.

    I'm interested in the change this will create and see if this will yield an acceptable result for everyone in how MVP should be determined. So if anyone would be so kind as to provide a link of the stats, it would be very much appreciated (I need to kill a bit of time )

    Or maybe it's time to use advanced player statistics na?

  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by shanebattier View Post
    So if everything is really based on stats alone, I guess the mythical 5 should look like this:

    C Slaughter
    F Salva
    F Parks
    G Nuyles
    G Ravena

    These were the top 5 in statistical points after the eliminations.
    Looks like a decent mythical five to me. Who would you have there in place of any of those five?

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  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Legend View Post
    Looks like a decent mythical five to me. Who would you have there in place of any of those five?
    No arguments here. RR Garcia, maybe...but I wouldn't know who to take off the list.

  14. #74
    Para sa akin, disappointed ako na si Parks ang nanalo, not because di kasali yung team nya sa Final 4, pero dahil pilit na pilit ang pagkapanalo nya, napapansin ko talaga madalas pag tambak na yung NU nandun parin sya naglalaro, kahit sila yung nakakatambak nandun parin sya. Yan ang pansin ko sa laro nya ah,ewan ko lang sa mga pure supporters nya. Kung ako ang pipili ng MVP this season, para sa akin si Slaughter, kahit ayoko sa kanya, nagbigay sya ng identity sa team nya, pag kalaban ng ibang team ang ADMU, ang sasabihin nalang, sa labas lang talaga kaya makascore ng kalaban, pwede din para sa akin si abdul, kasi talagang buhat na buhat nya yung team papuntang final four, kaso nasuspend, sayang. Si keifer pang ROY lang, kasi si GS talaga e. Isa pang pwede si RR kasi scorer talaga sya ng FEU kung wala sya natalo siguro sila sa NU at ibang close games kasi ang clutch nya, kasama pa dyan nung game nila vs DLSU, lastly si nuyles, ewan ko pero "valuable player" talaga sya. So kung may pagpipilian sa tingin ko eto yung top 5 candidates for MVP:

    1. GS
    2. Abdul (kaso nasuspend)
    3. RR
    4. Keifer
    5. Nuyles

    congrats parin kay Parks, happy ako atleast next season papatunayan nyang MVP talaga sya, sana.. opinyon lang naman..

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by L|J|APtop View Post
    No doubt about BRP's crazy statline.

    The wins are factored in yes, but not the losses. If the losses were included, a term like (Games Lost x 2) should be subtracted before dividing the result by the number of games played. Note that this is just my suggestion only.

    I'm interested in the change this will create and see if this will yield an acceptable result for everyone in how MVP should be determined. So if anyone would be so kind as to provide a link of the stats, it would be very much appreciated (I need to kill a bit of time )

    Or maybe it's time to use advanced player statistics na?


    sa inboundpass, nakatotal ang stats ng each player..

  16. #76
    Is this the most controversial MVP decision in recent history? In the last 10 years, all of the MVPs were chosen well and all of them were deserving like Arwind Santos, Jervy Cruz, James Yap, Enrico Villanueva, and RR Garcia to name a few.

    I can't remember an MVP who had received more boos and jeers than cheers and congratulatory remarks.

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by gval28 View Post
    Para sa akin, disappointed ako na si Parks ang nanalo, not because di kasali yung team nya sa Final 4, pero dahil pilit na pilit ang pagkapanalo nya, napapansin ko talaga madalas pag tambak na yung NU nandun parin sya naglalaro, kahit sila yung nakakatambak nandun parin sya. Yan ang pansin ko sa laro nya ah,ewan ko lang sa mga pure supporters nya. Kung ako ang pipili ng MVP this season, para sa akin si Slaughter, kahit ayoko sa kanya, nagbigay sya ng identity sa team nya, pag kalaban ng ibang team ang ADMU, ang sasabihin nalang, sa labas lang talaga kaya makascore ng kalaban, pwede din para sa akin si abdul, kasi talagang buhat na buhat nya yung team papuntang final four, kaso nasuspend, sayang. Si keifer pang ROY lang, kasi si GS talaga e. Isa pang pwede si RR kasi scorer talaga sya ng FEU kung wala sya natalo siguro sila sa NU at ibang close games kasi ang clutch nya, kasama pa dyan nung game nila vs DLSU, lastly si nuyles, ewan ko pero "valuable player" talaga sya. So kung may pagpipilian sa tingin ko eto yung top 5 candidates for MVP:

    1. GS
    2. Abdul (kaso nasuspend)
    3. RR
    4. Keifer
    5. Nuyles

    congrats parin kay Parks, happy ako atleast next season papatunayan nyang MVP talaga sya, sana.. opinyon lang naman..
    thats why its called -- STAT PADDING "sige boy shoot lang ng shoot hanggang maka 100 points ka!" -- kahit patay na lahat ng ilaw sa court .. laro pa rin!

    Eric Altamirano .. Apir!

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    ravena is locked on the ROY award. Ferrer will join him on the all rookie team. (if ever there's one again)

  19. #79
    I remember during 2007 season, Patrick Cabahug was such a ballhog th(at he leads the UAAP in scoring) like Bobby Ray Parks now yet he did not win the MVP award nor even be included in mythical 5. If I remember correctly, the reason given was AdU was not in Final 4. How come now? When did they change the criteria?

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    ^therrajj, Yeah. You're right. He might be the "best" of the league, pero, the problem is not him, his back-up players. His assistants.

    Example, would Jordan be the "greatest of all-time" without the assistance of the Pippen, Rodman, Kerr, Kukoc, etc.
    Or, will Kobe receive a 3-peat in 2008,2009 and 2010 without good players like Gasol, Odom, Artest, Bynum?

    Yes, magaling nga si BRP, probably the best of this new generation, but, if his team doesn't have the skills or some playing time or experience, walang mangyayari.

    Look, sino lang ba ang umiiscore sa NU except for Parks? tatlong tao lang ata. Mbe, Labing-isa and another guy (nakalimutan yung name)

    Next time, NU must hire some quality players.

    But, well-deserved for Parks.

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