2011 UAAP Most Valuable Player

[sydrified]

actually 5 lang ang pwedeng pagpilian dito:

* si abdul na-suspend kaya DQ-ed na siya. sayang taga-uste pa naman ako...

1. slaughter
2. parks
3. ramos
4. ravena
5. nuyles

although si parks ang lupit ng statline, si slaughter ang big time presence ng ateneo. si ravena hindi yan mauubusan ng accolades pero yun lang, mas more of slaughter ito kesa kiefer.

si nuyles sana pwede kaso ang hirap i-discount ng 13-1 record ng ateneo tapos si ramos... last year ganyan din yung stats niya e. sana kung tumaas lang yung points niya at naging second sila.

http://sydrified.blogspot.com/2011/0...imination.html

SLAUGHTER FOR MVP!

[Kent_210]

Parks, despite of his superb stats won't make it as he brought NU to nowhere. Not even a slot in the Final 4.

Ravena, I don't know, but I am not impressed with his stats. Marami pa siyang dapat i-improve. Maybe next year.

I guess it's a tight battle between Slaughter, Nuyles and RR Garcia (esp if he can lead FEU to the Finals).

[RuckuS]

the UAAP cannot select an MVP from a team that failed to make the Final4.

[Kent_210]

Slaughter is more of a defender. I think he's behind Manyara in terms of blocks. But you cannot also discount his scoring ability. Con: He's under the Black system where teamwork value the most.

Nuyles is more of an attacker (parang volleyball lang eh lol). He can attack the basket in many different angles i.e. 3-point shot, long jumper, fade-away jumper, crashing the board (lay-up, acrobatic shot, dunk). He's the 3rd best scorer in the league. Ang I think he's also one of the top interms of assist.

Garcia is more of a playmaker and scorer esp in beyond the arc.

[t_SKY]

PARKS MVP, Raven ROY

[logan_triple]

totoo ba yan? or unconfirmed news. kasi alam ko pag di kasama ang team mo sa final 4, disqualified ka sa MVP plum. That's the ruling since then pa.

eh di magbwakaw na lang lahat ng player para taasan yung stats niya para maging MVP without giving concern on how his team wins or not. madaming players noon na sobrang taas ng stats kaya lang di nanalo dahil wala sa final 4 ang team nila.

[Marshall_Matters]

This is a boatload of bullshitt if this is true.

Parks?

Didn't even lead the Bulldogs to the Final 4.

This is a crap of a joke.

[azgauth]

^ I think that's the ruling before they nerfed the votes (from media and other players). Right now, choosing the MVP (and ROY) are purely based on statistical points. I think the current/existing rule was implemented since 2009.

[logan_triple]

ang masama pa nito, talagang binabad si Parks ng coach niya para mataasan talaga ang stats. tambak na yung kalaban nila nasa loob pa rin si parks. ang hinabol na lang ng coach nila ay mataasan yung stats ni Parks.

[Blue Rules]

Parks. Based on stats lang daw. According to Rick O, sa women's, yong mvp comes from Ue (na kulelat naman) by virtue of her stats. May mali sa selection process.

[JudyVans]

Parks should win MVP because of two reasons:

- Statistical-wise

20ppg 6.5rpg 2.9apg 1.1spg 1.1 bpg

Tell me, have a rookie have a much better statline than what Parks has posted this season? He broke scoring records this season. He had three 30points or more games. He averaged almost 23ppg during the 2nd round of the UAAP. He is top 1 in PPG. Top 7 in RPG. Top 9 in APG (yes, he is). Top 7 in SPG. Top 9 in BPG.

Yes, all these for a rookie.

- Most importantly he is the MVP, by definition.

Parks is the ONLY ONE who carries his team to victory.

He is the team's best player on offense by his monstrous scoring numbers that he does in such efficiency 41% FG%, 30% 30pt% and 79% FT%. He is the team's best player by being the teams best in creating for his teammates (2.9apg, just .02 short of ravena and .02 more than RR Garcia).

He is the team's best defensive player. He guards the other team's best perimeter player. He creates havoc by his sheer length and athleticism which is evident by his rebound, steals and blocks per game.

What people need to realize is how really VALUABLE he is. Remove Kiefer or Slaughter in ADMU, and you still got a F4 team. Remove RR in FEU, and you still got a F4 team. Remove Nuyles and you still got a F4 team. But if you remove Parks in NU, then you probably got the worst team in the league.

Anyway, congrats BRP! Well deserved!

[JulieMarBoy]

They should revise the rule. MVP should only come from the top four teams. The essence of that 3 letters has somehow lost. :/

[JulieMarBoy]

Teka, yung mga nakaraang seasons ba yung mga coaches ng kanilang respective teams ang pumipili ng MVP?

[JudyVans]

BTW, si Marata raw ng DLSU nanalo narin ng MvP sa juniors before despite not making in the F4.

[L|J|APtop]

Though I don't agree with it, statistically, Parks deserves the award. Probably comparable to Cleveland era Lebron: Loads of talent and athleticism in a mediocre team. The comparison though falls apart when if you consider the fact that Lebron got his team to the playoffs consistently.

I think losses should be factored in the formula somehow. Kind of like a right minus wrong in tests.

fyi here's the formula (came from twitter. please correct me if wrong):

(Points+Rebounds+Assists+Steals+Blocks) x 2 + (Games won x 15) - (Turnovers + Technical Fouls+ Unsportsmanlike Fouls) / Games Played

EDIT: does anyone have a link where I can see the statistics? Thanks!

[therrajj]

unfair nga kung manggagaling ang MVP dun sa low seeded teams.. kahit gano pa kataas ang score ng isang player eh kung hindi naman panalo ang team niya, parang wala ring kwenta ang score niya..


MVP si parks, pero ng team niya lang..



si slaughter naman, grabe naman ito panong hindi tataas ang score eh hindi na tumatalon pagnagshoshoot..



for me, ang MVP dapat manggaling dun sa top 4..

[JudyVans]

I think losses should be factored in the formula somehow. Kind of like a right minus wrong in tests.

fyi here's the formula (came from twitter. please correct me if wrong):

(Points+Rebounds+Assists+Steals+Blocks) x 2 + (Games won x 15) - (Turnovers + Technical Fouls+ Unsportsmanlike Fouls) / Games Played

EDIT: does anyone have a link where I can see the statistics? Thanks!

Actually, it's already been factored. Masyado lang talaga ridiculous stats ni Parks. It's Parks' 66.6 vs Slaughter's 63.4

[JudyVans]

@baconaustria @nickobesalva same here. but the plus 15 SP per win should avoid 5th-8th place team from getting it. kaso naabot parin nya
- TJ MANOTOC

[nice_bro]

Parks should win MVP because of two reasons:

- Statistical-wise

20ppg 6.5rpg 2.9apg 1.1spg 1.1 bpg

Tell me, have a rookie have a much better statline than what Parks has posted this season? He broke scoring records this season. He had three 30points or more games. He averaged almost 23ppg during the 2nd round of the UAAP. He is top 1 in PPG. Top 7 in RPG. Top 9 in APG (yes, he is). Top 7 in SPG. Top 9 in BPG.

Yes, all these for a rookie.

- Most importantly he is the MVP, by definition.

Parks is the ONLY ONE who carries his team to victory.

He is the team's best player on offense by his monstrous scoring numbers that he does in such efficiency 41% FG%, 30% 30pt% and 79% FT%. He is the team's best player by being the teams best in creating for his teammates (2.9apg, just .02 short of ravena and .02 more than RR Garcia).

He is the team's best defensive player. He guards the other team's best perimeter player. He creates havoc by his sheer length and athleticism which is evident by his rebound, steals and blocks per game.

What people need to realize is how really VALUABLE he is. Remove Kiefer or Slaughter in ADMU, and you still got a F4 team. Remove RR in FEU, and you still got a F4 team. Remove Nuyles and you still got a F4 team. But if you remove Parks in NU, then you probably got the worst team in the league.

Anyway, congrats BRP! Well deserved!

Agree ako **. Parks deserved it kung stats lang ang basehan.

BUT it's still wrong na stats lang ang basis, kasi nga naman kung eto lang basehan, di dapat mag ballhog o mag-bakaw na lang yung ibang star players o lahat na ng players na gusto maging MVP. At least kahit wala sa F4 ang team ko eh MVP ako.

So stats as basis doesn't promote teamwork and leadership to lead the team. A real MVP does his thing while sacrificing a bit of himself for the common and greater good of all....and that is to win a CHAMPIONSHIP.

Kaya nga parang nagiging tamad na yung ibang players ng NU kase asa na lang kay Parks lahat,sometimes nakikita ko wala na sa rotation yung apat, nanunuod na lang while BRP attacks the basket.

The MVP really should come from the Final 4. And with that said only 3 are elligible.

GREG SLAUGHTER
R.RGARCIA
ALEX NUYLES

They lead their team in stats and their team is in the F4 so that should be fair.

[JudyVans]

Problem is, there's no rule that is saying that the MVP should come from the F4 teams. And it's just that Parks' stats is so ridiculous this season that even if you factored the 7 games win advantage of ADMU, lamang pa rin siya kay Greg Slaughter. And by definition, Parks is truly the Most Valuable Player in the league.