Top 10 Reasons Why Jesus is not God - Joshua Evans (former Youth Minister)

[mani94]

Did Jesus (PBUH) said worship me? Sino ba mas marunong sa pag explain ng scriptures, tayo or si Jesus (PBUH) mismo? Again, lahat ng mga sagot sa tanong nyo nandun na sa "short" video...

But Jesus answered him, "It is written, 'You must worship the Lord your God and serve ONLY him.'"
Luke 4:8

Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I didn't come to destroy them, but to fulfill them
Matthew 5:17

And this is eternal life: to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent-Jesus the Messiah.
John 17:3

And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Matthew 19:17

[Lola_Rose]

Here it is

"That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." -Philippians 2:10-11

Christ should be worshiped for the glory of God.


Also, Christ was given by God the right to forgive sins (Acts 5:31), we can ask the Father for our needs through Christ's name (John 15:16), and the man Jesus Christ is our mediator to God (I Tim 2:5). So we should pray to Christ as well.

[mani94]

^ I'm sorry, but we don't recognize Paul as a prophet or messenger... or kahit disciple man lang ni Jesus (PBUH)... this has been discussed sa video rin, Paul who has never met Jesus... or was ever his disciple...

Paul "claimed" to have seen Jesus (PBUH) appear to him on the way to Damascus to persecute Christians, pero never sya mismo naging disciple...

If check mo yung mga sinasabi ni Paul, marami contradict sa sinasabi ni Jesus (PBUH) mismo....

Ang foundation ng mga Christian doctrines ngayon unfortunately based sa mga "letters" ni Paul...

[krams2]

Did Jesus (PBUH) said worship me? Sino ba mas marunong sa pag explain ng scriptures, tayo or si Jesus (PBUH) mismo? Again, lahat ng mga sagot sa tanong nyo nandun na sa "short" video...

But Jesus answered him, "It is written, 'You must worship the Lord your God and serve ONLY him.'"
Luke 4:8

Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I didn't come to destroy them, but to fulfill them
Matthew 5:17

And this is eternal life: to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent-Jesus the Messiah.
John 17:3

And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Matthew 19:17

“Anupat ang lahat ng nalalang na nasa langit, nasa lupa, at nasa ilalim ng lupa ay maninikluhod At sasamba sa kanya.”

bakit sasambahin siya?

sa ikaluluwalhati ng Dios.” (Fil. 2:11)
(Filip. 2:10, Magandang Balita Biblia)

"It is written, 'You must worship the Lord your God and serve ONLY him. Luke 4:8

sinu yung him?

Luke 4:8
And Jesus answered and said to him, “Get behind Me, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.’”

sinabi din ba sa talata na ito na huwag sambahin si Jesus mani?

kung yung him ay tumutukoy sa Diyos yun ang pinaguutos na gawin ni satanas galing kay Jesus





MATEO 28:16-17 16 Pumunta ang labing-isang alagad sa Galilea, sa bundok na sinabi sa kanila ni Jesus. 17 Nang makita nila si Jesus, siya’y sinamba nila,, bagamat may ilang
nag-alinlangan

MATE0 28:9 Ngunit sinalubong sila ni Jesus at sinabi, “Magalak kayo!” Lumapit sila sa kanya, hinawakan ang kanyang mga paa at sinamba siya.

MATEO 2:11 Pagpasok sa bahay, nakita nila ang bata sa piling ng kanyang inang si Maria Lumapit sila at NAGPATIRAPA AT “SINAMBA” ang bata

at kung pagbabatayan po natin itong mga talata na ito...hindi nagreklamo si Jesus na sambahin siya at sinabi niyang Mali ang ginagawa nila

ang worship na word ay iba iba ang actions depende sa pagkakataon

[mani94]

Please read my earlier posts, and watch the videos sa first and second post ng thread nato...

God Almighty can forgive ALL sins... EXCEPT the worship of others besides Him... Kahit millions of years kapa sa hellfire hindi ka papatawarin if you worship others besides God Almighty (God the Father sa RCC)...

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[3:64] Say: "O People of the Book! (Jews and Christians) come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but God; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than God." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to God's Will).

[3:19] The Religion before God is Islam (submission to His Will): Nor did the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) dissent therefrom except through envy of each other, after knowledge had come to them. But if any deny the Signs of God, God is swift in calling to account.

[3:20] So if they dispute with thee, say: "I have submitted My whole self to God and so have those who follow me." And say to the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) and to those who are unlearned: "Do ye (also) submit yourselves?" If they do, they are in right guidance, but if they turn back, Thy duty is to convey the Message; and in God's sight are (all) His servants.

[Bowen]

There will always be a conflict of beliefs. Islam is different from Christianity.

[taglishLurker]

Phl 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Here it is

"That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." -Philippians 2:10-11

Phl 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Also, Christ was given by God the right to forgive sins (Acts 5:31), we can ask the Father for our needs through Christ's name (John 15:16), and the man Jesus Christ is our mediator to God (I Tim 2:5). So we should pray to Christ as well.

[mani94]

Islam, besides Christianity, is the only major world religion that recognizes Jesus (PBUH). A Muslim’s belief is incomplete without Jesus (PBUH).

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said:

“If anyone testifies that none has the right to be worshiped but God alone who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His servant and His Messenger, and that Jesus is God’s servant and His Messenger and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit from Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, God will admit him into Paradise with the deeds which he has done even if those deeds were few.”

The Quran refers to Jesus as the Messiah (al-Maseeh) at least nine times. For further reading: The Descriptive Titles of Jesus in the Quran

[mani94]

Al-Bukhaari (5971) and Muslim (2548) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: A man came to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said: “O Messenger of Allaah, who is most deserving of my good company?” He said: “Your mother.” He said: “Then who?” He said: “Your mother.” He said: “Then who?” He said: “Your mother.” He said: “Then who?” He said: “Then your father.”

[mani94]

Archpriest of the Russian Orthodox Church reverts to Islam



Archpriest Viacheslav Polosin Converts to Islam
Nezavisimaia gazeta--religii, 2 June 1999

"I decided to bring my social status into line with my convictions," Viacheslav Polosin declared, "and to testify publicly that I consider myself an adherent of the great tradition of the true faith of the prophets of monotheism, beginning with Abraham. And thus I do not consider myself a priest nor a member of any Orthodox church."

Source: Former Christian Priests and Missionaries who have Embraced Islam

[Draco Maldito]

I will forever be a Christian.

[mani94]

I will forever be a Christian.

Say: Will ye dispute with us about God, seeing that He is our Lord and your Lord; that we are responsible for our doings and ye for yours; and that We are sincere (in our faith) in Him?
Or do ye say that Abraham, Isma'il Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes were Jews or Christians? Say: Do ye know better than God? Ah! who is more unjust than those who conceal the testimony they have from God? but God is not unmindful of what ye do!
That was a people that hath passed away. They shall reap the fruit of what they did, and ye of what ye do! Of their merits there is no question in your case:
{Noble Quran 2:139-141}

[mani94]

"I must remind the Christians that unless they believe in the absolute unity of God, and renounce the belief in the three persons, they are certainly unbelievers in the true God ... The Old Testament and the Qur'an condemn the doctrine of three persons in God; the New Testament does not expressly hold or defend it, but even if it contains hints and traces concerning the Trinity, it is no authority at all, because it was neither seen nor written by Christ himself, nor in the language he spoke, nor did it exist in its present form and contents for - at least - the first two centuries after him."
- Rev. David Benjamin Keldani


Former Bishop Rev. David Benjamin Keldani

Before he became a Muslim and changed his name to Abdul-Ahad Dawud, Rev. David Benjamin Keldani, B.D. was a Roman Catholic priest of the Uniate-Chaldean sect. He was on the teaching staff of the Archbishop of Canterbury’s Mission to the Assyrian (Nestorian) Christians at Urmia.

[XIII]

This is the reason quite a few intellectual minds are drawn to Islam over Christianity, I guess. Less weirdo doctrines and a more solid philosophical abstract base. But at the end of it all, it is just another bogus Abrahamic religion.

This just isn't true. It's not Islamic philosophy that's flourishing today, it's actually Anglo-American Christian philosophy that is (spearheaded by Plantinga, Swineburne, Craig, et al).

[mani94]

This just isn't true. It's not Islamic philosophy that's flourishing today, it's actually Anglo-American Christian philosophy that is (spearheaded by Plantinga, Swineburne, Craig, et al).

Peace...

Anglo-American Christian philosophy??? based on what? example... Craig's Kalam Cosmological Argument... saan nakuha?

Actually marami sa mga 'great' Christian theologians studied Islamic philosophy... one of the biggest example is St. Thomas Aquinas...

http://hispanicmuslims.com/andalusia/andalusia.html

[XIII]

Peace...

Anglo-American Christian philosophy??? based on what? example... Craig's Kalam Cosmological Argument... saan nakuha?

Actually marami sa mga 'great' Christian theologians studied Islamic philosophy... one of the biggest example is St. Thomas Aquinas...

http://hispanicmuslims.com/andalusia/andalusia.html

I'm not disputing that Islamic philosophy has a rich and deep heritage that is every bit as beautiful as the Christian's. What I'm saying is that as of now, i.e. today, it's Anglo-American Christian philosophy that is experiencing a renaissance. It was the likes of Plantinga et al who brought theism back into the table of respectable discourse.

[mani94]

I'm not disputing that Islamic philosophy has a rich and deep heritage that is every bit as beautiful as the Christian's. What I'm saying is that as of now, i.e. today, it's Anglo-American Christian philosophy that is experiencing a renaissance. It was the likes of Plantinga et al who brought theism back into the table of respectable discourse.

Peace bro.

May Allah (Elaha in Aramaic, The God, God the Father for the RCC) guide us to the path most pleasing for Him.

[mani94]

God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?
Numbers 23:19

[mani94]

Jerald F. Dirks (accepts Islam), Minister of United Methodist Church, USA

Harvard named me a Hollis Scholar, signifying that I was one of the top pre-theology students in the college. The summer between my freshman and sophomore years at Harvard, I worked as a youth minister at a fairly large United Methodist Church. The following summer, I obtained my License to Preach from the United Methodist Church. Upon graduating from Harvard College in 1971, I enrolled at the Harvard Divinity School, and there obtained my Master of Divinity degree in 1974, having been previously ordained into the Deaconate of the United Methodist Church in 1972, and having previously received a Stewart Scholarship from the United Methodist Church as a supplement to my Harvard Divinity School scholarships. During my seminary education, I also completed a two-year externship program as a hospital chaplain at Peter Bent Brigham Hospital in Boston. Following graduation from Harvard Divinity School, I spent the summer as the minister of two United Methodist churches in rural Kansas, where attendance soared to heights not seen in those churches for several years.

There is some irony in the fact that the supposedly best, brightest, and most idealistic of ministers-to-be are selected for the very best of seminary education, e.g. that offered at that time at the Harvard Divinity School. The irony is that, given such an education, the seminarian is exposed to as much of the actual historical truth as is known about:

1) the formation of the early, “mainstream” church, and how it was shaped by geopolitical considerations;

2) the “original” reading of various Biblical texts, many of which are in sharp contrast to what most Christians read when they pick up their Bible, although gradually, some of this information is being incorporated into newer and better translations;

3) the evolution of such concepts as a triune godhead and the “sonship” of Jesus, peace be upon him;

4) the non-religious considerations that underlie many Christian creeds and doctrines;

5) the existence of those early churches and Christian movements which never accepted the concept of a triune godhead, and which never accepted the concept of the divinity of Jesus, peace be upon him; and

6) etc. (Some of these fruits of my seminary education are recounted in more detail in my recent book, The Cross and the Crescent: An Interfaith Dialogue between Christianity and Islam, Amana Publications, 2001.)

I prayed regularly, my belief in a supreme deity remained solid and secure, and I conducted my personal life in line with the ethics I had once been taught in church and Sunday school. I simply knew better than to buy into the man-made dogmas and articles of faith of the organized church which were so heavily laden with the pagan influences, polytheistic notions, and geo-political considerations of a bygone era.

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[mani94]

Reverts/Converts to Islam

Judge Marlyn Moringten (UK District Judge) - Specialized in Crime Against Women, Violence Against Women/Child Abuse for 10-12 Years in the UK. She is a British Judge in charge of examining cases of violence against women in immigrant, particularly Muslim women. After examining the faith, she herself reverts/converts to Islam {September 2008}.



Click and watch her videos here: Judge Marlyn Moringten Reverts

Marilyn Mornington is District Judge as well as a lecturer and writer on Family Law and in particular, domestic violence and elder abuse. Both nationally and internationally, she has worked on multiple publications in these areas.

She has been involved in various advisory and consultative capacities with the BBC, the Foreign Office, the Pakistani Government and Police force, the British Council and the Home Office, among many others.

In the last year alone she has contributed to an NSPCC report on abuse in UK Asian Communities, acted as patron to Karma Nirvana, an Asian men and women's project, contributed to a Home Affairs Select Committee on Domestic Violence and Forced Marriage and worked on an International Foreign Office exhibition and publication on the subject of integration. She also lectured on International Law and Human Rights at LSE, the Commonwealth Institute, Sheffield University and Punjab Law School in 2007 and 2008.
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"Behold! The angels said, 'Oh Mary! God has chosen you and purified you, chosen you above the women of all nations. Oh Mary! Worship your Lord devoutly. Prostrate yourself, and bow down (in prayer) with those who bow down'"
{Noble Quran 3:42-43}