Atheism is Growing in The Philippines

[banimalek]

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http://relihiyon.10.forumer.com/view...?p=28985#28985

Naku naman Inday mahihirapan talaga kayong i-clone ang account ko kasi unique iyan at mabibisto kapag kayo ang gagamit

Tutal fasting ngayon pagbibigyan muna kita sa trip mo.

[Zeitgeist699]

@banimalek: brad, tumira ako sa zamboanga for a few years. marami akong nakilala na mga muslim na "convert" sa christiany, same way na marami ring catoliko at muslim nag-coconvert sa born again sects, at sa totoo lang wala pa akong narinig na kristiano dun na nag-convert sa muslim.. anong point ko? patas lang, masyado ka lang biased. siempre, muslim ka no surprise. pero totoo, wala pa akong nakilalang atheist na tulad ko nung andun ako. pero ok lang, wala akong paki sa anumang gawin nila sa buhay nila. wag lang silang mag-preach sa akin kundi luha o nosebleed ang maabot nila.

@MaynardKeenan: nope. ang taong naniniwala kaagad sa lahat na sinasabi ng isang tao, doktrina at aklat na walang matinding basehan ay retarded ang pag-iisip. so sa kasong ito, its actually you who will never understand because you never were to question your beliefs. anyway, regarding the New World Order hindi ako naniniwala dyan per se. yung mga paranoid reptilian fantasy ni david icke ay pawang unfounded fears. wala silang pinagkaiba ng scientology, mormonism, islam, christianity and most of all, iglesia ni kristo. same old t@e, different texture, color and smell. although naniniwala ako na magagawa ang lahat pag pera na ang pag-uusapan. that includes big business corporations influencing the world for profit, same way with islam and the catholic church. no need for new world order, the deception is being done in front of our faces and there is no need for organized global control. just great old cash and uninterrupted corporatist status quo will do.

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Freedom comes only from seeing the ignorance of your critics and discovering the emptiness of their virtue. -David Seabury

[SmartDessa]

in fairness, mas gugustuhin ko pang dumami ang ateista kesa dumami ang sekta ng mga Kristyano.

naniniwala ako na ilang taon bago dumating si Kristo, mawawala ang mga sekta, pero mas dadami ang ateista.

dalawa lang ang hantungan niyan, either nasa Ekklesia ka o wala.



atsaka mas madaling makipagusap sa mga matinong atheists, except sa mga obvious na nagaa-test-ateyisan lang na dinadagdagan ang simpleng unbleief in God or gods.

[banimalek]

@banimalek: brad, tumira ako sa zamboanga for a few years. marami akong nakilala na mga muslim na "convert" sa christiany, same way na marami ring catoliko at muslim nag-coconvert sa born again sects, at sa totoo lang wala pa akong narinig na kristiano dun na nag-convert sa muslim.. anong point ko? patas lang, masyado ka lang biased. siempre, muslim ka no surprise. pero totoo, wala pa akong nakilalang atheist na tulad ko nung andun ako. pero ok lang, wala akong paki sa anumang gawin nila sa buhay nila. wag lang silang mag-preach sa akin kundi luha o nosebleed ang maabot nila.

Tumira ka lang pala ako ay mismong taga Mindanao at Cotabato City at Zamboanga City ay natirahan ko na.

BTW, kalimutan muna iyan kasi ang paksa ay kung bakit dumadami ang mga atheist sa pinas, kasi ako ay malaki ang katibayan ko ng mga kristiyanong naging Muslim at mayroon pa ngang Showbiz Personalities na alam ko na kilala mo ang magkapatid na Padilla at ang Uncle nila at pinsan buo.....kaya huwag na natin pag-usapan kasi baka kung saan pa mapunta ang usapin natin.

Gusto ko lang pala ilatag itong nagconvert sa Islam na ayon sa inyo ay wala kang nabalitaan na naging Muslim.

at sa totoo lang wala pa akong narinig na kristiano dun na nag-convert sa muslim.

Ito po isang Madre na mula sa probinsiya ng Zamboanga na nag-muslim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tOLLm2dPbk

Siguro naman nagpakita na ako ng katibayan at puwede na natin isara ang usapin na ito.


Peace!

[MaynardKeenan]

@banimalek: brad, tumira ako sa zamboanga for a few years. marami akong nakilala na mga muslim na "convert" sa christiany, same way na marami ring catoliko at muslim nag-coconvert sa born again sects, at sa totoo lang wala pa akong narinig na kristiano dun na nag-convert sa muslim.. anong point ko? patas lang, masyado ka lang biased. siempre, muslim ka no surprise. pero totoo, wala pa akong nakilalang atheist na tulad ko nung andun ako. pero ok lang, wala akong paki sa anumang gawin nila sa buhay nila. wag lang silang mag-preach sa akin kundi luha o nosebleed ang maabot nila.

@MaynardKeenan: nope. ang taong naniniwala kaagad sa lahat na sinasabi ng isang tao, doktrina at aklat na walang matinding basehan ay retarded ang pag-iisip. so sa kasong ito, its actually you who will never understand because you never were to question your beliefs. anyway, regarding the New World Order hindi ako naniniwala dyan per se. yung mga paranoid reptilian fantasy ni david icke ay pawang unfounded fears. wala silang pinagkaiba ng scientology, mormonism, islam, christianity and most of all, iglesia ni kristo. same old t@e, different texture, color and smell. although naniniwala ako na magagawa ang lahat pag pera na ang pag-uusapan. that includes big business corporations influencing the world for profit, same way with islam and the catholic church. no need for new world order, the deception is being done in front of our faces and there is no need for organized global control. just great old cash and uninterrupted corporatist status quo will do.

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Freedom comes only from seeing the ignorance of your critics and discovering the emptiness of their virtue. -David Seabury

I didn't take Islam as my religion for granted, comparing islam to other religions was the thing i have done to find the truth and found that Islam is the only religion which can get along with my common senses and logical thoughts and offers a complete way of life without confusion.

Tama ka retarted ang pag iisip kung hindi man *** ma question ng isang tao ang kanyang paniniwala but that is not in my case. Siguro kung pinanganak ako na laking kristyano magiging atheist or agnostic siguro ako..

OT:

Mahilig ka ba sa music? Ever heard the band "Tool" and "A perfect circle? I was inspired by their music to add motivation of thinking to question every beliefs. As you can see my username is Maynard Keenan, He's the vocalist of Tool and A perfect circle.

Whenever i listen to the song "Judith" by A perfect circle it reminds of the Christians blind faith, No offense.

Judith

You're such an inspiration for ways
That i will never ever choose to be.
Oh so many ways for me to show you
How your savior has abandoned you.

Thank(****) your god.
Your lord, your christ
He did this,
Took all you had
And left you this way.
Still you pray, never stray,
Never taste of the fruit.
Never thought to question why.

It's not like you killed someone.
It's not like you drove a hateful spear into his side.
Praise the one who left you
Broken down and paralyzed.
He did it all for you.
He did it all for you.

Oh so many ways for me to show you
How your dogma has abandoned you.
Pray to your christ, to your god.
Never taste of the fruit,
Never stray, never break,
Never choke on a lie,
Even though he's the one who did this to you
Never thought to question why.

It's not like you killed someone.
It's not like you drove a spiteful spear into his side.
Talk to jesus christ as if he knows the reasons why
He did this all to you.

He did it all for you.
He did it all for you.

[MaynardKeenan]

You can only hope.

Many atheist (those I know firsthand), left their faith after they search (& failed) for proofs & evidences for God existence.

If one can display the existence of an entity called Allah, then, I believe, many of these atheist (& probably some Christians) would not be stupid to cling to their present belief.

Its that simple & I hope this register into your worldview

Here are some Atheist that converted to Islam.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4bXr-Zdo2bA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6cy6MIGQSvk
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0op5MIyG3Xg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=f5Jd4nLigVI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qVQ1BWqjTjs
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IRXcMxnPEis
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FITitidzVTw

[MaynardKeenan]

Here are videos and stories of some people converted to Islam. However you can find thousands of videos in youtube.


http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2630

[Ischaramoochie]

yes, MaynardKeenan. thousands of videos in youtube, including some muslims converting to atheism. the bottom line is that conversions are a dime-a-dozen. nothing really special abut them.

[MaynardKeenan]

yes, MaynardKeenan. thousands of videos in youtube, including some muslims converting to atheism. the bottom line is that conversions are a dime-a-dozen. nothing really special abut them.

Thousands of muslim convert to atheism? where are the videos? thanks btw..

[joma_s]

Here are some Atheist that converted to Islam.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4bXr-Zdo2bA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6cy6MIGQSvk
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0op5MIyG3Xg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=f5Jd4nLigVI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qVQ1BWqjTjs
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IRXcMxnPEis
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FITitidzVTw

i saw the video, those converts converted by choice into believing in allah or a god.

what i am saying is that most atheists i know left their faith after failing to find the proofs and evidences for god or allah.

of course, there are those who convert to islam, to christianity, to mormonism but that does not equate to proof and evidence

[MaynardKeenan]

i saw the video, those converts converted by choice into believing in allah or a god.

what i am saying is that most atheists i know left their faith after failing to find the proofs and evidences for god or allah.

of course, there are those who convert to islam, to christianity, to mormonism but that does not equate to proof and evidence

Correct and then we begin to question why and what's the reason why they convert to Islam. I cannot find several videos in youtube that converted from Islam to Christianity or to other beliefs. Yes i found one or two but i think it was just a propaganda or some sort of being lame.

[Ischaramoochie]

Thousands of muslim convert to atheism? where are the videos? thanks btw..

i wouldn't really know. besides, it's the first time for me to find out that "some" can be interchanged with "thousands."

[kuroihikari]

Why would anyone post a video of 'converting' to atheism, anyway?

There's no converting happening, because you're only rejecting an idea. It's not like you have a ministry to attend to, so posting the video (which is mostly done as a tool for ministry) would be pointless.

[MaynardKeenan]

i wouldn't really know. besides, it's the first time for me to find out that "some" can be interchanged with "thousands."

Sorry about that, if you don't mind providing the links or videos of some muslim embracing the belief of atheism or christianity? I would appreciate it

[joma_s]

Correct and then we begin to question why and what's the reason why they convert to Islam. I cannot find several videos in youtube that converted from Islam to Christianity or to other beliefs. Yes i found one or two but i think it was just a propaganda or some sort of being lame.

Well if you based your truth based on majority, then we might as well do it by voting.

But the question "does an entity called Allah exists?" require more than just a votation, dont you agree?

if three quarter of the world population turn to Mormonism will that prove the truth of it?

[Ischaramoochie]

Sorry about that, if you don't mind providing the links or videos of some muslim embracing the belief of atheism or christianity? I would appreciate it

youtube has a search function. it's there for a reason

[MaynardKeenan]

Well if you based your truth based on majority, then we might as well do it by voting.

But the question "does an entity called Allah exists?" require more than just a votation, dont you agree?

I agree, if you are open minded please give a chance to read and understand.

http://www.harunyahya.com/articles/70universe.php

[MaynardKeenan]

youtube has a search function. it's there for a reason

akala ko kasi meron kang napanood doon na muslim nagconvert to christianity or atheism.

[Ischaramoochie]

akala ko kasi meron kang napanood doon na muslim nagconvert to christianity or atheism.

ay wala. actually there are no videos of muslims converting to other faiths. most of what you see on the internet claiming to be so are either hoaxes, lies, or they weren't "true" muslims to begin with. it's all actually just propaganda. the truth is that nobody ever really leaves islam and if ever one were to convert, it is to islam. is that the answer you were looking for?

[joma_s]

I agree, if you are open minded please give a chance to read and understand.

http://www.harunyahya.com/articles/70universe.php

I read many "Fine Tuning Arguments" for the existence of God not only from Harun Yahya but from few Christian apologists.

One variation of the argument goes something like this: the universe has constant that if adjusted by a little increment then we will cease to exist - and god was the author of those universal constant.

The trouble with that argument is we cannot disprove it for its truthness. For example, if the acceleration of gravity is change to 10 instead of 9.8 m/sec2 what would happen?

Besides, god is just copy/pasted into the equation. By pleading, we put god as the creator when in the first place our question is "Does God or Allah exist?"

As someone who question God's existence, rest assured that I went thru many arguments for the existence of God(s). I dont want to just accept my side of argument but i have to see both sides, and for now the side for the existence of god seem to be lacking.

However, you might be keeping something in your sleeve to convice those who are non-believers.