MS Finance

[pedropinduko]

iba kase real world sa academics eh, i dont know a lot of up grads in the banking industry, most of my top bossess (avp up) are either ateneo or dlsu grads. So yeah, UP may be winning competitions but employers still favor dlsu and admu grads

Of course, UP graduates are rare breed. Figure out the student population of each school's accounting/business/economics programs. You'll see why.

Again, asa boy! Haha.

PS. I just want to share in this thread what I know (and do not know) in our country's grad programs in finance. Kung gusto mo ng school bashing, hmmm, ihanda mo na ang mga bala mo!

Joke! Peace.

[mike168]

Di naman im just basing it on experience. I am assuming that TS plans to take a post grad degree in finance to persue/boost his career in banking which is why i suggested that he enroll at DLSU since that is the preferred school of employers (for MS finance at least) BTW im basing it on my and my friend's exp. Most of the top bank's (RCBC, Metro, BPI, PNB) executives are either from DLSU or ADMU.

pero ok ren naman UP if you want to pursue a career in teaching i would suggest you enroll at UP

[pedropinduko]

I like your last line! Pasimpleng banat e. Pero fail. Haha.

With due respect mike168, you need to broaden your mindset, and expand your set of friends. Sabi ko nga, konti lang talaga ang population ng MS Fin students sa UPD. Ok, you can include MBA students who take finance specialization, pero konti pa rin talaga, relative to those Finance/MBA (major in finance) of other schools. Some of the probable reasons kung bakit konti: (1) strict acceptance policy, (2) perceived (and actual) difficulty of graduate school life in UP compared to other schools - maraming hindi nag-aapply sa UP dahil dito, mind you, (3) proximity to work place and inflexibility with respect to working hours (but they now introduced part time schedule and planning to build a school in the Fort to address this issue), and (4) lack of school resources. Nevertheless, and as what usually is expected of UP graduates, these few people are expected to be industry leaders (UP MS Fin, the first graduate degree in finance in the country, started in the late 90's so we can expect its graduates to be industry leaders in the coming years; most current bank executives have MBA degrees specializing in finance, well, some of them are UP undergrad or MBA alumni, just know your circles).

Ok, tama na pagpapaliwanag. Hehe.

Anyway, if everybody of you thinks UP's MS FIN is not mathematical because it doesn't have the "computational" or "engineering" attached to its name. Think again. It's very math intensive. Just browse the list of professors. Most of them have Ph.D. in math. I believe its curriculum is very well rounded - Math, Accounting, Economics are well integrated into the program. (Thought bubble: Jan magaling ang UP e. You guessed it right.) Drawback lang talaga na biased ang banking industry sa foreign b-schools. Hope this helps.

[shakespeare_01]

My undergrad is finance at DLSU so i could vouch for the professors there. imo go with DLSU nalang UP is really not known for finance

Indeed! http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/...d.php?t=425991

I heard pa nga the fight between UP and DLSU was so close that DLSU almost made it, though not in the top 3. Kudos to DLSU! Sorry UP nakakahiya kay Mr. Mike eh

[albert16]

MS Finance is a demanding course pero kaya naman (so far).

[borge543]

I was thinking of taking MS Financial Engineering or MS Finance. So what's the difference between the two? Is there a theoretical side between this courses? Is it like Economics that will teach you principles and techniques?

[INSEADious]

It's best to look at the description of their courses and choose based on your own needs and capabilities.

On MS FinEngg:
If you're already in Treasury Ops, why would you take up Treasury Ops as a subject? If you have no background in Finance, History of Finance would be very helpful, otherwise waste of money. I think a 6-unit thesis is an overkill, sayang yung 3 units, pwede pa sana sa, say, corporate finance.

On MS Finance:
Subjects are 2 units only--does this mean a lot of burden on studying is passed on to students as opposed to spoonfeeding? So if you are busy at work, you might want to consider the less rigorous program. I think the MS Finance offers more value for money considering the scope of topics covered. Parang MBA-Finance.

But who knows? Maybe those taking or are graduated from both programs can share their insights. Or maybe UP & DLSU can provide w/ stats on the profile of their alumni.

[g_lyn24]

i'm planning to take up MS FinEng next school year but i am quite apprehensive since my present job is very toxic and demanding so ayoko ng compre AND thesis. kung compre, compre lang. kung thesis, thesis lang. I might end up taking MS Computational Finance.

[boarish]

hi all. about ms finance up diliman. can u please inform me what the entrance exam is like? i saw in the website that the GPAT consists of logic, reading and quantitative exams. Is it like a typical college entrance test? I have graduated a long time ago, i've forgotten a lot. how about interviews? thanks.

[lionheart18]

Anyone here taking this course in UP Diliman. Learned that they already offer part-time. Can someone share how's the program. Class schedule, how demanding. etc. Thanks.

Hi, I am currently enrolled in UP MS Finance program.

Starting this year, UP MS Finance offers part-time program, in which classes are held Tuesday to Friday, each subject meet twice a week.

Earliest class is 6:30PM.

Nope but I know people who took or are currently taking their MSFin in UP.

I'm a CFA candidate. With the level of difficulty of the CFA exams and the standards of the Accounting and Finance department of UP CBA, I can safely say that MS FIN is more challenging.

The Net Present Value raised by New Yorker is a different issue as it really depends on the knowledge of employers on their applicant's qualifications. CFA is globally recognized, that helps you get the job. But I believe that graduate studies is more than that, it gives you staying power. The requirements to get the degree are really daunting unless a school is a diploma mill.

Anyway, baliktad objective naten. I'm finishing my CFA to gain enough credentials to choose a prestigious school for masters in finance abroad (with scholarship sana dahil ako ay isang hamak na ordinaryong mamamayan lang). Hehehe.

Hi Sir, anong level na yung kukuhanin nyo? I'll be taking CFA Level 1 this December 4.

My undergrad is finance at DLSU so i could vouch for the professors there. imo go with DLSU nalang UP is really not known for finance

Check your facts sir. UP won last year in the Global Investment Reasearch Challenge, maybe you are not familiar with it.

I like your last line! Pasimpleng banat e. Pero fail. Haha.

With due respect mike168, you need to broaden your mindset, and expand your set of friends. Sabi ko nga, konti lang talaga ang population ng MS Fin students sa UPD. Ok, you can include MBA students who take finance specialization, pero konti pa rin talaga, relative to those Finance/MBA (major in finance) of other schools. Some of the probable reasons kung bakit konti: (1) strict acceptance policy, (2) perceived (and actual) difficulty of graduate school life in UP compared to other schools - maraming hindi nag-aapply sa UP dahil dito, mind you, (3) proximity to work place and inflexibility with respect to working hours (but they now introduced part time schedule and planning to build a school in the Fort to address this issue), and (4) lack of school resources. Nevertheless, and as what usually is expected of UP graduates, these few people are expected to be industry leaders (UP MS Fin, the first graduate degree in finance in the country, started in the late 90's so we can expect its graduates to be industry leaders in the coming years; most current bank executives have MBA degrees specializing in finance, well, some of them are UP undergrad or MBA alumni, just know your circles).

Ok, tama na pagpapaliwanag. Hehe.

Anyway, if everybody of you thinks UP's MS FIN is not mathematical because it doesn't have the "computational" or "engineering" attached to its name. Think again. It's very math intensive. Just browse the list of professors. Most of them have Ph.D. in math. I believe its curriculum is very well rounded - Math, Accounting, Economics are well integrated into the program. (Thought bubble: Jan magaling ang UP e. You guessed it right.) Drawback lang talaga na biased ang banking industry sa foreign b-schools. Hope this helps.

Sobrang hirap makapasok sa MS Finance, kaya nga ang hirap sa kalooban na hindi tapusin eh haha.

You need to pass the GPAT first. Then after that, you need to take proficiency test in Stat, Accounting, Calculus, Mathemetics of Finance ( calculator is not allowed). You need to pass them all, otherwise, you cannot proceed with the interview.

Noong nagapply ako mga nasa 200+ ata kami. Pero in the end, 18 na lang kami nagenroll.

In my personal opinion, having 200+ applicants and accepting only 18, is a possible indication that they are a quality school. Kung 18 lang yung nakapasa, yun lang talaga tatanggapin nila. Unlike sa ibang school, makarami lang ng students, tatanggapin pa rin nila kahit bagsak sa entrance.

hi all. about ms finance up diliman. can u please inform me what the entrance exam is like? i saw in the website that the GPAT consists of logic, reading and quantitative exams. Is it like a typical college entrance test? I have graduated a long time ago, i've forgotten a lot. how about interviews? thanks.

The GPAT is like the GMAT.

[albert16]

lionheart18 anong batch ka?

[rsgubank]

Are you serious? Like which company are you talking about?

The country's top banks and the name of the CEO/Presidents:

1. Banco de Oro - Nestor Tan (La Salle, Accounting '80, Wharton, MBA '86)
2. BPI - Aurelio Montinola III (Ateneo, Management Eng. '81, Wharton, MBA ' 85)
3. RCBC - Lorenzo Tan (La Salle, Accounting '82, Northwestern, MBA '87)
4. China Bank - Peter Dee (La Salle, BSBA '76, New York U Stern School, MBA)
5. Union Bank - Justo Ortiz (Ateneo, Eco '79)

[arkheM]

The country's top banks and the name of the CEO/Presidents:

1. Banco de Oro - Nestor Tan (La Salle, Accounting '80, Wharton, MBA '86)
2. BPI - Aurelio Montinola III (Ateneo, Management Eng. '81, Wharton, MBA ' 85)
3. RCBC - Lorenzo Tan (La Salle, Accounting '82, Northwestern, MBA '87)
4. China Bank - Peter Dee (La Salle, BSBA '76, New York U Stern School, MBA)
5. Union Bank - Justo Ortiz (Ateneo, Eco '79)

Yet there aren't clues and proofs that those banks you mentioned favor DLSU/AdMU grads over UP grads. If anything, I'm inclined to believe the opposite, especially if we're talking about junior and mid-level positions. I'm not convinced that those banks would favor a DLSU or AdMU econ grad, for example, over a UP econ grad. If anything, I'm inclined to believe the opposite.

[lionheart18]

lionheart18 anong batch ka?

i'm sure magkabatch tayo haha!

[albert16]

i'm sure magkabatch tayo haha!

SINO KA???!!!

[bee stung]

To current students, how MS Finance so far?

[borge543]

I like your last line! Pasimpleng banat e. Pero fail. Haha.

With due respect mike168, you need to broaden your mindset, and expand your set of friends. Sabi ko nga, konti lang talaga ang population ng MS Fin students sa UPD. Ok, you can include MBA students who take finance specialization, pero konti pa rin talaga, relative to those Finance/MBA (major in finance) of other schools. Some of the probable reasons kung bakit konti: (1) strict acceptance policy, (2) perceived (and actual) difficulty of graduate school life in UP compared to other schools - maraming hindi nag-aapply sa UP dahil dito, mind you, (3) proximity to work place and inflexibility with respect to working hours (but they now introduced part time schedule and planning to build a school in the Fort to address this issue), and (4) lack of school resources. Nevertheless, and as what usually is expected of UP graduates, these few people are expected to be industry leaders (UP MS Fin, the first graduate degree in finance in the country, started in the late 90's so we can expect its graduates to be industry leaders in the coming years; most current bank executives have MBA degrees specializing in finance, well, some of them are UP undergrad or MBA alumni, just know your circles).

Ok, tama na pagpapaliwanag. Hehe.

Anyway, if everybody of you thinks UP's MS FIN is not mathematical because it doesn't have the "computational" or "engineering" attached to its name. Think again. It's very math intensive. Just browse the list of professors. Most of them have Ph.D. in math. I believe its curriculum is very well rounded - Math, Accounting, Economics are well integrated into the program. (Thought bubble: Jan magaling ang UP e. You guessed it right.) Drawback lang talaga na biased ang banking industry sa foreign b-schools. Hope this helps.

I thought UP's MS FIN was started 2002? I've just read it from a book from Development Center for Finance(correct me if I'm wrong). Anyway, feeling ko mahirap talaga, yung load palang ehh.

[lionheart18]

To current students, how MS Finance so far?

I thought UP's MS FIN was started 2002? I've just read it from a book from Development Center for Finance(correct me if I'm wrong). Anyway, feeling ko mahirap talaga, yung load palang ehh.

So far ok pa naman, kaya pa. Very Challenging ang MS Finance. If you are familiar with CFA, most of the courses is for CFA Level 2. Mahirap ang admission, there are a lot of test and sometimes interview bago ka talaga makapasok. Actually before, I thought of quitting the program due to financial resources. Pero pag naiisip ko yung hirap sa pagpasok, namotivate ako to continue and finish the program. Luckily, nakakuha ako ng scholarship grant from my work. Yung tuition is not that high compared with other school but the quality is superb.

[bee stung]

Thanks for the input lionheart. Just curious, what's your course in college? Do you have classmates with BA degree?

[bee stung]

I thought UP's MS FIN was started 2002? I've just read it from a book from Development Center for Finance(correct me if I'm wrong). Anyway, feeling ko mahirap talaga, yung load palang ehh.

Or 2001? I know someone who took this course at that time...