Airliners of the World VI

[jgatapia]

How many of you guys will tavel all the way to CRK to fly on AirAsia PH when there are 3 other LCC alternatives flying out of MNL?

In spite of what the Central Luzon lobbyists say, I believe CRK will never match MNL as long as a fast and efficient transport system does not exist.

baka naman ang kinukuha ni market ni AirAsia is yun mga tao sa North.. Yes it will never match MNL pero malay natin bumuo sya ng market dun..

[rap_sd6]

^^who knows, they might offer Clark-Manila route for only Php 300 per pax =) and then get as much passengers from Manila going to Clark na synchronized with their schedules

[evodesire]

A fast train would really be the best solution with plenty of frequencies. And it has to be the private sector who should build this. Kung government, madami nanamang buwaya ang raraket at di nanaman matutuloy yan, tulad ng northrail project.

[evodesire]

baka naman ang kinukuha ni market ni AirAsia is yun mga tao sa North.. Yes it will never match MNL pero malay natin bumuo sya ng market dun..

Thing is, you have other LCCs there. You got Cebu Pacific and I think Zest Air or prolly APX. You got SEA Airlines too.

According to a friend from Cebu Pacific who was based in CRK too, the market there is over saturated. I thought all the while it was not coz they have the whole central to northern Luzon.

[evodesire]

Malaysia's AirAsia to extend Airbus deal to 300 planes
Tue Jul 5, 2011 8:55pm EDT
www.reuters.com

(Reuters) - AirAsia Bhd will extend a deal with Airbus for its new A320neo jets to 300 planes, a source with knowledge of the deal said, making the Malaysia-based budget airline one of the largest in the world.

The two sides had announced a deal for 200 planes at the Paris Air show last month, shattering aviation records, but the additional order takes the list price of the contract to a staggering $27 billion.

Like the previous order, the additional 100 planes would also carry CFM International engines, the source said.

The source, who spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity, said AirAsia would receive a discount for the entire order, but did not give further details.

Deliveries of the latest batch of the A320neo planes will be at the discretion of AirAsia, the source added.

The initial order of 200 planes will be delivered from 2016, as Air-Asia seeks to reap the benefits of being based near the two fastest-growing aviation markets in the world -- India and China.

The A320neo is a version of Airbus's best-selling 150-seat passenger jet offering fuel savings with new engines from 2015 and will heap pressure on Boeing to take a decision to either rework its current offering or come up with something new.

AirAsia chief Tony Fernandes told Reuters earlier this week he saw the company as a 500-plane airline, which would make it second only to America's Southwest Airlines.

AirAsia, which flies to 63 destinations in more than 20 countries, has 90 planes currently, almost all single-aisle Airbus A320s. Besides the 300 Airbus A320neo deal, it has another 75 Airbus aircraft already in the pipeline, and which Fernandes said he was keeping on order.

(Reporting by Y-Sing Liau and Raju Gopalakrishnan, Writing by Vinu Pilakkott; Editing by Muralikumar Anantharaman)

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wow! 300 A320neo.. ang dami!!

Air Asia is trying to beat Southwest as the biggest LCC. Southwest has 500+ aircrafts, and they only fly within the USA. They just have multiple hubs.

[evodesire]

I dont know if it is just me, but I noticed when the tripple 7 goes on full throttle during take-offs, its seems so fast in the ground compared to the 747 and other aircrafts. Last time I flew out of Cebu on a PAL T7, the flight wasn't of full load and it seems like the pilot went on full throttle. We even haven't reached the terminal when the plane lifted. And it was just so fast, I can feel myself being pulled to my seat more. Maybe its just me, I dont know if others do have the same observation when riding 77Ws.

[keyser_soze]

How many of you guys will tavel all the way to CRK to fly on AirAsia PH when there are 3 other LCC alternatives flying out of MNL?

In spite of what the Central Luzon lobbyists say, I believe CRK will never match MNL as long as a fast and efficient transport system does not exist.

very excellent point ekimnat!

^^^unless they create a shuttle bus system like the one in KL

shuttle buses synchronized with the flights or with good frequency can be a workaround.

maybe they can also make it as an option to be bundled with the fare like the Skybus.

they should! otherwise, it's gonna be a hard sell.

I agree with you evodesire. Ang layo talaga ng Clark. But let's not discount the marketing geniuses at Air Asia. If they want to capture more Manila-based customers, then a reasonable (or free?) shuttle service should be in the offing to sweeten the deal.

when i was stationed in Abu Dhabi for a while, Cathay Pacific offered free shuttle bus service from AD to Dubai, that's 200km/2-hr drive away. marami pa ring Pinoy ang nagtiis sa biyahe, bukod sa free bus, mas mura kasi talaga ang pasahe kumpara sa Etihad airlines ng Abu Dhabi.

now, kung parehas lang ang magiging pasahe ng LCC from MNL kumpara from Clark? i think walang magtitiis sa hassle ng mahabang biyahe to Clark, kahit free pa yan. kelangang talaga mas mababa ang fare to sell.

A fast train would really be the best solution with plenty of frequencies. And it has to be the private sector who should build this. Kung government, madami nanamang buwaya ang raraket at di nanaman matutuloy yan, tulad ng northrail project.

ang ganda sana kung meron din tayong Airport Link train gaya nung sa Suvarnabhumi airport, which is located in Samut Prakan province, linking to downtown Bangkok's BTS & MRT.

[ruddervator78]

when i was stationed in Abu Dhabi for a while, Cathay Pacific offered free shuttle bus service from AD to Dubai, that's 200km/2-hr drive away. marami pa ring Pinoy ang nagtiis sa biyahe, bukod sa free bus, mas mura kasi talaga ang pasahe kumpara sa Etihad airlines ng Abu Dhabi.

Now CX flies direct AUH/HKG.

[mistah_elite]

thread six.

I drove along DMIA at SCTEX a few days ago -- there's just too much room for expansion compared to NAIA. An efficient & fast transit would really make it promising.

At present, I will agree with the fact that Clark has Central Luzon and neighbouring provinces as share, especially outbound OFWs who are connecting to SIN/HKG via CRK instead of MNL.

[markpaul]

Which is farther from the Capital cities?

Clark Airport to Manila or Kuala Lumpur Intl/LCCT to Kuala Lumpur?

[evodesire]

thread six.

I drove along DMIA at SCTEX a few days ago -- there's just too much room for expansion compared to NAIA. An efficient & fast transit would really make it promising.

I would rather go for the Sangley point area wherein there is just so much space to reclaim and turn into an airport, more than CRK actually. PLUS, its nearer to Manila than from Manila to Clark.

[seven13]

Sorry, my bad. Correction, there are 2 more left. C3221 and C3223. Next to that is C3230 which entered service on December 2005. I believe this had the coastal interiors already and AVOD at Mabuhay class.

I was on an old A320 on my flight back to Manila from Beijing or the flight I was on bound to Xiamen. Maski luma na, the seats were ok naman. I found it more relaxing than the newer seats installed on the newer A320s

[CosmicArcher]

Which is farther from the Capital cities?

Clark Airport to Manila or Kuala Lumpur Intl/LCCT to Kuala Lumpur?

I think Clark - Manila is longer.

If I'm not mistaken KLIA to Kuala Lumpur is only around 70+ kms. Whereas, Clark to Manila takes around 90km (more/less).

I will be going to KL on Wednesday, I'll find out take note of it.

[CosmicArcher]

baka naman ang kinukuha ni market ni AirAsia is yun mga tao sa North.. Yes it will never match MNL pero malay natin bumuo sya ng market dun..

I agree with you.

After Metro Manila, the next biggest concentration of Filipinos are in Central Luzon, so, it just makes sense that they would have their own airport there, and yes, true enough, our countrymen from the north will now be able to fly by just going to Clark, rather than in NAIA.

It reminds me of the days when airlines would have to fly people from Davao who wants to go to Cebu to fly through Manila because there was no direct flight between CEB and DVO!!! BUT of course, that's not the case anymore.

[CosmicArcher]

Starting August 2011, Singapore Airlines is reducing it's SIN - MNL flights from 28 times weekly down to 21 times weekly.

Could they be feeling the pinch of the budget airlines proliferating between this busy route?

I just checked PAL website, there is still no change, they still fly 28 times weekly between SIN and MNL. I hope they can keep that up. I'd rather have schedule choices than wide-body aircraft...it's only a 3.5 hour flight, so I wouldn't mind flying their A320s between these two busy cities.

[CosmicArcher]

After several months from the launch of Manila - Delhi flights.

Can our friends from PAL give us an insight on how this flight is doing?
I really hope it's doing well.

[jgatapia]

Starting August 2011, Singapore Airlines is reducing it's SIN - MNL flights from 28 times weekly down to 21 times weekly.

Could they be feeling the pinch of the budget airlines proliferating between this busy route?

I just checked PAL website, there is still no change, they still fly 28 times weekly between SIN and MNL. I hope they can keep that up. I'd rather have schedule choices than wide-body aircraft...it's only a 3.5 hour flight, so I wouldn't mind flying their A320s between these two busy cities.

ahh kala ko naman matagal..21 times sya for aug01-28 lang..dahil lean season kasi ang Singapore pag ganitong Jul-Sep..expect na magdowngrade din ang ibang airlines kapag nafifeel nila na hindi na kumikita un mga flights nila pero babalik din yan sa normal frequency come November or December..

[brummie]

Is there a specific reason why passport stamps generally speaking are of the same shape regardless of the country you are entering/leaving? I believe it's oval for entry and rectangular for exit.

[aircargo]

Cebu Pacific to increase Kuala Lumpur flights
by Coco Alcuaz, ABS-CBN News Channel



MANILA, Philippines - John Gokongwei’s Cebu Pacific wants to increase flights to Malaysia to 14 a week -- twice a day -- from the current 10 per week, and it seems the Civil Aeronautics Board will grant its wish.

Cebu Pacific is requesting the right to fly an additional 720 passengers per week on top of its current 1,800, spokeswoman Candice Iyog said in a phone interview.

In a statement, the CAB said it will grant Cebu Pacific's request if no other carrier applies in the next 7 days.



CEBU PACIFIC MANILA-KL SERVICE
CURRENT REQUESTED ADDITION
PASSENGERS/WEEK 1,800 720
FLIGHTS/WEEK 10 4

Even if PAL wanted more flights, CAB could probably accommodate both it and Cebu Pacific. The board says it has an additional 1,260 passenger rights to assign this year, and the same number again next year, after the Philippines and Malaysia amended their air services agreement last month.

A Philippine Airlines spokesman said PAL and Malaysia Airlines, with whom it shares passenger rights via what's known as code-sharing, do not plan to increase request for more passenger rights.

The spokesman said PAL and Malaysia share their rights, equivalent to nine flights a week. All flights are flown by Malaysia, which PAL can sell tickets on.

Cebu Pacific is operated by Cebu Air Inc., a unit of Gokongwei’s JG Summit Holdings Inc.

[berdee]

Is there a specific reason why passport stamps generally speaking are of the same shape regardless of the country you are entering/leaving? I believe it's oval for entry and rectangular for exit.

triangle naman yung exit ng Malaysia :P
europe/schengen rectanguar both entry and exit... may arrow lang to differentiate