Iisa Lang Ba Ang Nagsasalita Dito

[banimalek]

Nais ko lang po itanong ito sa mga Trinitarian kung iisa lang po ba ang personang nagsasalita dito o nag-utos.


OLD TESTAMENT


Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately, but all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.Numbers 31:17-18

And when the Lord your God shall deliver them before you, and you shall defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favour to them. Deutronomy. 7:2

And all the spoil of these cities and the cattle, the sons of Israel took as their plunder; but they struck every man with the edge of the sword, until they had destroyed them. They left no one who breathed. Joshua 11:14


NEW TESTAMENT:

Luke 6:27-28 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.


Maraming salamat po sa magiging tugon ng mga naniniwalang tatlo ang persona ng Diyos nila.

[Ischaramoochie]

good-cop, bad-cop.

[banimalek]

good-cop, bad-cop.

Tama ka diyan mod......sa OT ay bad cop at sa NT at good cop....pero kung iisa lang iyan ay malalaman natin sa magiging tugon dito sa thread ko.

Sa tingin ko iyong mga Trinitarian ang makakasagot sa tanong kung ito, sa tingin ko lang.

Thanks and peace!

[SmartDessa]

same God
the OT are the prophets and priests used by God to deliver His message through outward revelation.

the NT part is God Himself manifest in the flesh.

the latter part of the NT until today is God as the Spirit manifested in the church through revelation from inwardly

[razzer_rising]

I am thankful that I was born after the NT. gosh imagine those people under OT laws. thats why though I believe in Christian/Catholic God, I dont subscribe to OT. personally, I think many rules and laws there are barbaric. NT is the best. and so is Jesus

[joma_s]

Oy, ito tanong lang ha?
Hind ba iisa lang ang Dyos in Abraham? The same god who gave child to Sarah and Hagar?

Paki sagot naman Dessa and Banimalek...

[SmartDessa]

Oy, ito tanong lang ha?
Hind ba iisa lang ang Dyos in Abraham? The same god who gave child to Sarah and Hagar?

Paki sagot naman Dessa and Banimalek...

iisa lang ang Diyos ni Abraham.

at lahat ng anak ng mga ina sa mundo ay bigay ng Diyos.

[joma_s]

iisa lang ang Diyos ni Abraham.

at lahat ng anak ng mga ina sa mundo ay bigay ng Diyos.

So your God & Allah is one and same?

[SmartDessa]

if Allah is one God, then He is my God as well.

some of our brothers and sisters who use arabic calls God Allah.

[TLG]

Nais ko lang po itanong ito sa mga Trinitarian kung iisa lang po ba ang personang nagsasalita dito o nag-utos.


[I]OLD TESTAMENT


Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately, but all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.Numbers 31:17-18

And when the Lord your God shall deliver them before you, and you shall defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favour to them. Deutronomy. 7:2

And all the spoil of these cities and the cattle, the sons of Israel took as their plunder; but they struck every man with the edge of the sword, until they had destroyed them. They left no one who breathed. Joshua 11:14

Its the same God bani!

Koran 9:73
Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their Home: an evil fate.

Koran 47:4
When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly. Then grant them their freedom or take ransom from them, until War shall lay down her burdens.

Koran 5:33-34
The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom; Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is Forgiving, merciful.

Koran 9:5
"Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolators wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

The violent God in the OT is the same violent God in the Quran!

[banimalek]

Nakakatuwa naman ang sumasagot dito sa thread ko, tinatanong ko lang kung iisa lang ba ang nagsasalita doon sa OT at NT ang ginagawa ay nabaling ang paksa sa Quran.

TLG, mahirap bang sagutin ang tanong ko kung iisa lang iyong nagsasalita doon sa talata sa OT at talata sa NT.


OO or HINDI lang ang sagot at please gawa ka ng thread tungkol sa Quran kasi walang quran verse diyan puro nasa bibliya mo

[banimalek]

same God
the OT are the prophets and priests used by God to deliver His message through outward revelation.

]the NT part is God Himself manifest in the flesh.

the latter part of the NT until today is God as the Spirit manifested in the church through revelation from inwardly

I am thankful that I was born after the NT. gosh imagine those people under OT laws. thats why though I believe in Christian/Catholic God, I dont subscribe to OT. personally, I think many rules and laws there are barbaric. NT is the best. and so is Jesus

Oy, ito tanong lang ha?
Hind ba iisa lang ang Dyos in Abraham? The same god who gave child to Sarah and Hagar?

Paki sagot naman Dessa and Banimalek...

Siguro naman po malinaw ang topic ko, ang tinatanong ko diyan ay kung iisa bang persona ang nagsasalita doon sa OT at NT, puro wala sa paksa ko ang mga post ninyo.

Uulitin ko ba ang tanong, iisang persona ba ang nagsasalita doon sa mga inilatag ko na talata....kung trinatarian kayo ay masasagot ninyo ang tanong ko.

[banimalek]

The violent God in the OT is the same violent God in the Quran!

Hindi ba exist si Hesus sa inyo sa OT, pakisagot lang po kasi iyan ang paksa at hindi ang Allah, usap lang tayo diyan sa inilatag mo sa ibang thread.

[joma_s]

if Allah is one God, then He is my God as well.

some of our brothers and sisters who use arabic calls God Allah.

If? you are not sure, is that what you mean?

[TLG]

Nakakatuwa naman ang sumasagot dito sa thread ko, tinatanong ko lang kung iisa lang ba ang nagsasalita doon sa OT at NT ang ginagawa ay nabaling ang paksa sa Quran.

Of course hindi mo nakuha ang punto ko! Ang tinutukoy mo kasi is they are not the same God kasi iba ang approach niya sa NT at OT db, hindi mo kasi alam na nakabase ang mga utos niya sa dalawang magkaibang sitwasyon. SA OT panahon ng gulo at mga gyera kaya ganyan ang utos, hindi nalalayo ang Diyos sa OT sa diyos ng Quran nyo

Sa NT may gyera ka pa bang nababasa?

TLG, mahirap bang sagutin ang tanong ko kung iisa lang iyong nagsasalita doon sa talata sa OT at talata sa NT.

Actually nasagot ko na, hindi ako tulad mo na takot sumagot puro paliguy-liguy!

OO or HINDI lang ang sagot at please gawa ka ng thread tungkol sa Quran kasi walang quran verse diyan puro nasa bibliya mo

ang Sagot ay oo, at ang explanation ulit ay ito "hindi mo kasi alam na nakabase ang mga utos niya sa dalawang magkaibang sitwasyon. SA OT panahon ng gulo at mga gyera kaya ganyan ang utos, hindi nalalayo ang Diyos sa OT sa diyos ng Quran nyo Sa NT may gyera ka pa bang nababasa?

Pero mga muslim kahit hindi na panahon ng gyera nagiging terrorista!

[SmartDessa]

If? you are not sure, is that what you mean?

I am sure that my God is One

[joma_s]

Siguro naman po malinaw ang topic ko, ang tinatanong ko diyan ay kung iisa bang persona ang nagsasalita doon sa OT at NT, puro wala sa paksa ko ang mga post ninyo.

Uulitin ko ba ang tanong, iisang persona ba ang nagsasalita doon sa mga inilatag ko na talata....kung trinatarian kayo ay masasagot ninyo ang tanong ko.

eh kuya, kung hinde mo naintindihan ang tanong ko kay Dessa (at sa interesadong muslim), ignore mo na lang

[joma_s]

I am sure that my God is One

Ok, ok...is your God the same God that gifted Hagar with Ismail?

[SmartDessa]

Ok, ok...is your God the same God that gifted Hagar with Ismail?

my default answer is yes, unless you give a verse in the Bible that says otherwise.

[joma_s]

The violent God in the OT is the same violent God in the Quran!

And the same God in the New Testament as well?