Is Homosexuality a SIN?

[ultimatejourney]

Let's just say we don't believe in God. Of course there will be no standards between good and evil. What do you think will happen? No restrictions, no do's and dont's. Just live your life the way you want it. I can 't even imagine what the world can become without God.

hello, I really dont want to get in a debate here in
this thread and It was probably a mistake to post my beliefs,
but I was only trying to help the guy accept who he really is.

but if religion is the only thing that restricts us from doing
bad things.. then I am very sad with humanity...
I do good things not to please a God, but I do it cause
I am a human being, human beings are like that
we want to live in each other's happiness not by
each other's misery.


and to answer your question:
the world would be a better place without religion.
no suicide bombings, no honor killings, no holy wars
no priests that molest children, and the twin towers
would probably still be here. and we would be exploring the galaxy and unweaving the mysteries of the universe, contacting advanced civilizations... but no, we are here stuck in this pale blue dot in a civilization poisoned by religion...

heck I even wish there is a God =( that doesnt mean I believe in one.


oh and yeah.. I'm a former religious fanatic (sacristan pa)
and have read the bible multiple times... it was actually
the bible that made me want to stop believing in a God.

try reading the whole thing, thats the fastest way to
get you into being an atheist


ahhhh ive said too much already. i'll try to not reply
to your next post, just to avoid debates

[may2]

@SuperOnyx

about your follow-up :
The passages of Sodom & Gomorrah tells the story about homosexuality.

'Because the men of Sodom, young & old, the entire population. They called Lot and said to him, 'Where are the men who arrived here tonight? Send them out who arrived tonight? Send them out so that we may have sex with them.'-Genesis 19:4.

But these people did not know, that the men arrived in Lot's house are two angels. After that their city Sodom & Gomorrah was destroyed. That explains why homosexuality is a sin.

[G42677]

hi G42677!

ask ko lang - i dont mean no harm...

are you straight? girl or boy?

btw im a christian too, i sometimes attend ccf...

Let's just say that I struggle as well with my identity. But God did not left me and strengthen me towards the process. Now I am happy serving Him.

[G42677]

hello, I really dont want to get in a debate here in
this thread and It was probably a mistake to post my beliefs,
but I was only trying to help the guy accept who he really is.

but if religion is the only thing that restricts us from doing
bad things.. then I am very sad with humanity...
I do good things not to please a God, but I do it cause
I am a human being, human beings are like that
we want to live in each other's happiness not by
each other's misery.


and to answer your question:
the world would be a better place without religion.
no suicide bombings, no honor killings, no holy wars
no priests that molest children, and the twin towers
would probably still be here. and we would be exploring the galaxy and unweaving the mysteries of the universe, contacting advanced civilizations... but no, we are here stuck in this pale blue dot in a civilization poisoned by religion...

heck I even wish there is a God =( that doesnt mean I believe in one.


oh and yeah.. I'm a former religious fanatic (sacristan pa)
and have read the bible multiple times... it was actually
the bible that made me want to stop believing in a God.

try reading the whole thing, thats the fastest way to
get you into being an atheist


ahhhh ive said too much already. i'll try to not reply
to your next post, just to avoid debates

It's not religion that will save us, but relationship. Relationship is the key and not religion. If you have a deeper relationship with Jesus, then you will understand His ways.

A better example to think about: All people have their own preference on how they like to run their lives. If all people will do what he wants without restrictions and standards of right and wrong, clash will begin and will create chaos. Especially all wants to survive in this cruel world! No one knows how to sacrifice, humble, give way. All will be self-centered because there is no God to look at for guidance. Killings will be rampant because of the desire to be happy in their own way! And a lot more.

[ultimatejourney]

It's not religion that will save us, but relationship. Relationship is the key and not religion. If you have a deeper relationship with Jesus, then you will understand His ways.

A better example to think about: All people have their own preference on how they like to run their lives. If all people will do what he wants without restrictions and standards of right and wrong, clash will begin and will create chaos. Especially all wants to survive in this cruel world! No one knows how to sacrifice, humble, give way. All will be self-centered because there is no God to look at for guidance. Killings will be rampant because of the desire to be happy in their own way! And a lot more.

thats why we have law? lol your imagination goes very far.
you think of humans as if we are a very bad specie.
with or without God, there will still be crimes.
probably less without a God.


oh btw, the percentage of criminals with religion... atheists included too btw

Catholic 29267 39.164%
Protestant 26162 35.008%
Muslim 5435 7.273%
American Indian 2408 3.222%
Nation 1734 2.320%
Rasta 1485 1.987%
Jewish 1325 1.773%
Church of Christ 1303 1.744%
Pentecostal 1093 1.463%
Moorish 1066 1.426%
Buddhist 882 1.180%
Jehovah Witness 665 0.890%
Adventist 621 0.831%
Orthodox 375 0.502%
Mormon 298 0.399%
Scientology 190 0.254%
Atheist 156 0.209%
Hindu 119 0.159%
Santeria 117 0.157%
Sikh 14 0.019%
Bahai 9 0.012%
Krishna 7 0.009%
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so yeah, are you sure that religion keeps these people
from doing sin? I dont think so.


source of chart: http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm

[MusicLover01]

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[SuperOnyx]

You need to understand that sex is not a sin unless practice in a wrong way. Sex between couples are not considered lust for they are part of the marriage life for pro-creation. That is the sole purpose of sex. Sex can only be considered lust if they are practice outside marriage and between same sex.

How can you say that sex between married couples is not lustful? Most couples have lustful sex all the time. To define procreation, it is having sex to conceive an offspring. Do married couples always have sex to produce a baby? Hell no. You've been blabbering about sex being intended for procreation and procreation alone, and yet we all know that married couples have sex all the time not to procreate, but to fulfill their lustful desires. And you're telling me that's okay just because they're married? I sense some injustice here.

What if a married man or a woman is sterile, and they know they can NEVER have a baby, could they still have sex?

Also, you seem to miss my question about asexual gay relationship. I'm curious about your response to that.

@SuperOnyx

about your follow-up :
The passages of Sodom & Gomorrah tells the story about homosexuality.

'Because the men of Sodom, young & old, the entire population. They called Lot and said to him, 'Where are the men who arrived here tonight? Send them out who arrived tonight? Send them out so that we may have sex with them.'-Genesis 19:4.

But these people did not know, that the men arrived in Lot's house are two angels. After that their city Sodom & Gomorrah was destroyed. That explains why homosexuality is a sin.

Again, those passages did not say that homosexuality per se is a sin. The men of Sodom wanted to have lustful sex with the two angels, maybe even rape them. Rape is a sin, even if it's heterosexual.

Most people who say that homosexuality is a sin have been implying that gay people have no capacity to love. They equate homosexuality with only lustful desires towards the same sex. They forget that a loving and meaningful sexual relationship between two men or two women is also possible. And they ignore the fact that while gay people are prone to being lustful, so are straight people. If lustful sex is a sin, then all of us are sinful. Gay, straight, married or not, we all have sex lustfully and that makes all of us sinners.

[may2]

@SuperOnyx

Again, those passages of Sodom & Gomorrah, explicitly says that sex between same sex is a sin. That is the reason why their city was destroy. It is homosexual on the context of same sex partners.

Because when you look at Genesis passages, God created man & woman in his image & likeness for pro-creation and not Adam & Juan which is homosexual.

Marriage or the Sacrament of Matrimony, purpose, is the perfection & completion of each partner which leads them to God. And the other purpose is Christian parenthood. Because conjugal love is ordained for the procreation & education of children.

[may2]

@SuperOnyx

Sex outside of marriage is sin. Now, you said that married couples engages is in their lustful or carnal desires & not necessarily for bringing up children,

Marriage or the Sacrament of Matrimony unites a man & woman in the baptized in lawful marriage, giving them the grace they need for their married state, and sex is only a part of that grace.

Now, sin is a free, voluntary and consciuos violation of the commandments of God and of those who with God's authority rule over us.

In the news, the large percentage of acquiring AIDS virus which is uncurable, is within the same sex relations, particularly the man & man relations.

What happens to the persons who have AIDS, when they are interviewed, they are sorry for their act and wished they never done it.

Because same sex relations are sinful in nature, even the sex without the blessing of marriage between man & woman.

In the history, Sodom & Gomorrah are destroyed because of their immoral ways like homosexuality, but now people are destroyed because of AIDS.

Sometimes, the people who have AIDS who got their offspiring are inflicted with AIDS. But these children are innocent, they died because of the irresponsibility of their parents.

[G42677]

thats why we have law? lol your imagination goes very far.
you think of humans as if we are a very bad specie.
with or without God, there will still be crimes.
probably less without a God.


oh btw, the percentage of criminals with religion... atheists included too btw

Catholic 29267 39.164%
Protestant 26162 35.008%
Muslim 5435 7.273%
American Indian 2408 3.222%
Nation 1734 2.320%
Rasta 1485 1.987%
Jewish 1325 1.773%
Church of Christ 1303 1.744%
Pentecostal 1093 1.463%
Moorish 1066 1.426%
Buddhist 882 1.180%
Jehovah Witness 665 0.890%
Adventist 621 0.831%
Orthodox 375 0.502%
Mormon 298 0.399%
Scientology 190 0.254%
Atheist 156 0.209%
Hindu 119 0.159%
Santeria 117 0.157%
Sikh 14 0.019%
Bahai 9 0.012%
Krishna 7 0.009%
---------------------------- -----


so yeah, are you sure that religion keeps these people
from doing sin? I dont think so.


source of chart: http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm

Where does the law came from? Do you think law will exist if there is no God behind everything. If you don't believe in God, what are your distinction between right and wrong. And what are your basis to believe that these are the only standards set forth by whom, by what? Are we all just a creation without a creator. A being without any purpose, meaning at all. Just to live by what can make us happy and contented. Is that the meaning of LIFE itself?

I know that there will still be crimes with or without God. But if there is a God that gave us a sense of wisdom between right and wrong, there will definitely have a sense of restriction. Knowing what's right and wrong will give us the freedom of choice. Even if we can't avoid sinning, still we are being governed by the standards of GOD. Thus, creating a much more peaceful society.

Without God, what is the essence of being human. No responsibility at all. To live and to die just the way you are. No purpose. No meaning. No challenge. Very shallow.

[G42677]

How can you say that sex between married couples is not lustful? Most couples have lustful sex all the time. To define procreation, it is having sex to conceive an offspring. Do married couples always have sex to produce a baby? Hell no. You've been blabbering about sex being intended for procreation and procreation alone, and yet we all know that married couples have sex all the time not to procreate, but to fulfill their lustful desires. And you're telling me that's okay just because they're married? I sense some injustice here.

What if a married man or a woman is sterile, and they know they can NEVER have a baby, could they still have sex?

Also, you seem to miss my question about asexual gay relationship. I'm curious about your response to that.

Again, those passages did not say that homosexuality per se is a sin. The men of Sodom wanted to have lustful sex with the two angels, maybe even rape them. Rape is a sin, even if it's heterosexual.

Most people who say that homosexuality is a sin have been implying that gay people have no capacity to love. They equate homosexuality with only lustful desires towards the same sex. They forget that a loving and meaningful sexual relationship between two men or two women is also possible. And they ignore the fact that while gay people are prone to being lustful, so are straight people. If lustful sex is a sin, then all of us are sinful. Gay, straight, married or not, we all have sex lustfully and that makes all of us sinners.

Sex between married couples are the only one approved by God. The rest are considered sexual immorality and adultery. It doesn't matter how you practice sex, as long as it is within the context of marriage, it's okay.

The Bible undeniably condemns adultery and sexual immorality which constitutes homosexuality, but is sex before marriage considered sexually immoral? According to 1 Corinthians 7:2, “yes” is the clear answer: “But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.” In this verse, Paul states that marriage is the “cure” for sexual immorality. First Corinthians 7:2 is essentially saying that, because people cannot control themselves and so many are having immoral sex outside of marriage, people should get married. Then they can fulfill their passions in a moral way.

Since 1 Corinthians 7:2 clearly includes sex before marriage in the definition of sexual immorality, all of the Bible verses that condemn sexual immorality as being sinful also condemn sex before marriage as sinful. Sex before marriage is included in the biblical definition of sexual immorality. There are numerous Scriptures that declare sex before marriage to be a sin (Acts 15:20; 1 Corinthians 5:1; 6:13, 18; 10:8; 2 Corinthians 12:21; Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 5:3; Colossians 3:5; 1 Thessalonians 4:3; Jude 7). The Bible promotes complete abstinence before marriage. Sex between a husband and his wife is the only form of sexual relations of which God approves (Hebrews 13:4).

Far too often we focus on the “recreation” aspect of sex without recognizing that there is another aspect—procreation. Sex within marriage is pleasurable, and God designed it that way. God wants men and women to enjoy sexual activity within the confines of marriage. Song of Solomon and several other Bible passages (such as Proverbs 5:19) clearly describe the pleasure of sex. However, the couple must understand that God’s intent for sex includes producing children. Thus, for a couple to engage in sex before marriage is doubly wrong—they are enjoying pleasures not intended for them, and they are taking a chance of creating a human life outside of the family structure God intended for every child.

If the Bible's message on sex before marriage were obeyed, there would be far fewer sexually transmitted diseases, far fewer abortions, far fewer unwed mothers and unwanted pregnancies, and far fewer children growing up without both parents in their lives. Abstinence is God’s only policy when it comes to sex before marriage. Abstinence saves lives, protects babies, gives sexual relations the proper value, and, most importantly, honors God.

[G42677]

How can you say that sex between married couples is not lustful? Most couples have lustful sex all the time. To define procreation, it is having sex to conceive an offspring. Do married couples always have sex to produce a baby? Hell no. You've been blabbering about sex being intended for procreation and procreation alone, and yet we all know that married couples have sex all the time not to procreate, but to fulfill their lustful desires. And you're telling me that's okay just because they're married? I sense some injustice here.

What if a married man or a woman is sterile, and they know they can NEVER have a baby, could they still have sex?

Also, you seem to miss my question about asexual gay relationship. I'm curious about your response to that.




Again, those passages did not say that homosexuality per se is a sin. The men of Sodom wanted to have lustful sex with the two angels, maybe even rape them. Rape is a sin, even if it's heterosexual.

Most people who say that homosexuality is a sin have been implying that gay people have no capacity to love. They equate homosexuality with only lustful desires towards the same sex. They forget that a loving and meaningful sexual relationship between two men or two women is also possible. And they ignore the fact that while gay people are prone to being lustful, so are straight people. If lustful sex is a sin, then all of us are sinful. Gay, straight, married or not, we all have sex lustfully and that makes all of us sinners.

The image of God is both male and female and is reflected in a godly union between male and female where the creative power of God, His life-giving, His self-giving and His moral nature are perfectly expressed. This is only possible in a heterosexual union.

When God created a partner for Adam He created Eve - not another Adam. This means that perfect partnership requires some level of difference as well as a level of similarity so great that Adam could cry out loudly, "This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh". Sexual intimacy between a man and a woman is the normal method of male/female bonding (emotionally and physically) because it corresponds to the design of our bodies and because it is the normal means by which offspring are created.

If God had intended the human race to be fulfilled through both heterosexual and homosexual marriage, He would have designed our bodies to allow reproduction through both means and made both means of sexual intercourse healthy and natural. Homosexual anal intercourse carries a high risk of disease, this is recognized in Scripture where gay men are said to receive in their bodies the due penalty for their error (Romans 1:27).

[G42677]

How can you say that sex between married couples is not lustful? Most couples have lustful sex all the time. To define procreation, it is having sex to conceive an offspring. Do married couples always have sex to produce a baby? Hell no. You've been blabbering about sex being intended for procreation and procreation alone, and yet we all know that married couples have sex all the time not to procreate, but to fulfill their lustful desires. And you're telling me that's okay just because they're married? I sense some injustice here.

What if a married man or a woman is sterile, and they know they can NEVER have a baby, could they still have sex?

Also, you seem to miss my question about asexual gay relationship. I'm curious about your response to that.




Again, those passages did not say that homosexuality per se is a sin. The men of Sodom wanted to have lustful sex with the two angels, maybe even rape them. Rape is a sin, even if it's heterosexual.

Most people who say that homosexuality is a sin have been implying that gay people have no capacity to love. They equate homosexuality with only lustful desires towards the same sex. They forget that a loving and meaningful sexual relationship between two men or two women is also possible. And they ignore the fact that while gay people are prone to being lustful, so are straight people. If lustful sex is a sin, then all of us are sinful. Gay, straight, married or not, we all have sex lustfully and that makes all of us sinners.

please see thread below

[G42677]

How can you say that sex between married couples is not lustful? Most couples have lustful sex all the time. To define procreation, it is having sex to conceive an offspring. Do married couples always have sex to produce a baby? Hell no. You've been blabbering about sex being intended for procreation and procreation alone, and yet we all know that married couples have sex all the time not to procreate, but to fulfill their lustful desires. And you're telling me that's okay just because they're married? I sense some injustice here.

What if a married man or a woman is sterile, and they know they can NEVER have a baby, could they still have sex?

Also, you seem to miss my question about asexual gay relationship. I'm curious about your response to that.




Again, those passages did not say that homosexuality per se is a sin. The men of Sodom wanted to have lustful sex with the two angels, maybe even rape them. Rape is a sin, even if it's heterosexual.

Most people who say that homosexuality is a sin have been implying that gay people have no capacity to love. They equate homosexuality with only lustful desires towards the same sex. They forget that a loving and meaningful sexual relationship between two men or two women is also possible. And they ignore the fact that while gay people are prone to being lustful, so are straight people. If lustful sex is a sin, then all of us are sinful. Gay, straight, married or not, we all have sex lustfully and that makes all of us sinners.

The Bible consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; 20:13; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:26-27 teaches specifically that homosexuality is a result of denying and disobeying God. When people continue in sin and unbelief, God “gives them over” to even more wicked and depraved sin in order to show them the futility and hopelessness of life apart from God. 1 Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual “offenders” will not inherit the kingdom of God.

God does not create a person with homosexual desires. The Bible tells us that people become homosexuals because of sin (Romans 1:24-27) and ultimately because of their own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as some people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person’s choosing to sin by giving in to sinful desires. If a person is born with a greater susceptibility to anger/rage, does that make it right for him to give into those desires? Of course not! The same is true with homosexuality.

However, the Bible does not describe homosexuality as a “greater” sin than any other. All sin is offensive to God. Homosexuality is just one of the many things listed in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 that will keep a person from the kingdom of God. According to the Bible, God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, idol worshipper, murderer, thief, etc. God also promises the strength for victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation (1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Corinthians 5:17; Philippians 4:13).

[barelythere]

You're being such a hypocrite, reiterating endlessly that homosexuality is a sin coz the bible said so. Ikaw mismo humuhusga sa sarili mo.
For now, yeah ok you're living your life according to what you believe is right and how you're supposed to, but are you really happy??, guess you can never really tell coz you haven't even tried being true to yourself. How long can you live that way? How long can you resist your true nature? Wala kang pinagkaiba sa mga preso or baka nga mas malala pa. tsk sk. Tao ka lang din remember?, each-and everyone-has-their-limitations. How about learning to appreciate and love who you really are.

[ultimatejourney]

Where does the law came from? Do you think law will exist if there is no God behind everything. If you don't believe in God, what are your distinction between right and wrong. And what are your basis to believe that these are the only standards set forth by whom, by what? Are we all just a creation without a creator. A being without any purpose, meaning at all. Just to live by what can make us happy and contented. Is that the meaning of LIFE itself?

I know that there will still be crimes with or without God. But if there is a God that gave us a sense of wisdom between right and wrong, there will definitely have a sense of restriction. Knowing what's right and wrong will give us the freedom of choice. Even if we can't avoid sinning, still we are being governed by the standards of GOD. Thus, creating a much more peaceful society.

Without God, what is the essence of being human. No responsibility at all. To live and to die just the way you are. No purpose. No meaning. No challenge. Very shallow.

If that's how you believe then you fail being at being a person.
kailangan may God ka pa para ituro sayo ang tama o mali. and jeez
using the bible as a guide for your moral behavior when it clearly did
more bad than good to us. why?
Killed more. Without a doubt.

Crusades - Estimated around 9,000,000.

Inquisitions - Unknown...

Jhadis - Unknown...

Terrorism...

Need I press on?


Oh, by the by - if we take the Bible literaly, then God killed about... oh, well let's see..

2,038,344 people? Not including, I beleive, the flood.


oh and yeah i found the passage bout homosexuality para sayo lang.

Levictus 20:13
If a man lie with a man, as he lieth with a woman, both of them
have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death;
their blood shall be upon them.

so yeah, since you're gay then you should believe that
you are going to hell!

also look what i found while searching, this one's funny.

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21

how cute... stoning children to death...


still believe in using the bible as your moral code?
goodluck with that, but no thank you


have a good fake life!

[ultimatejourney]

eto pa nakakatawa.

1 Corinthians 11:14
Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him,


disgrace daw pag long hair...
e si jesus diba long hair.. hmm...

[barelythere]

^ooooohh...Now I know why I dig bald men. Finally!

[G42677]

You're being such a hypocrite, reiterating endlessly that homosexuality is a sin coz the bible said so. Ikaw mismo humuhusga sa sarili mo.
For now, yeah ok you're living your life according to what you believe is right and how you're supposed to, but are you really happy??, guess you can never really tell coz you haven't even tried being true to yourself. How long can you live that way? How long can you resist your true nature? Wala kang pinagkaiba sa mga preso or baka nga mas malala pa. tsk sk. Tao ka lang din remember?, each-and everyone-has-their-limitations. How about learning to appreciate and love who you really are.

Well fyi, I did. I was engage to homosexual activity before. But it did not make me happy. Instead, it worsen my life. I thought it will make me happy being true to what I feel, but I was wrong. I then realize by the grace of God that all of these feelings were lies and are deceived by Satan. I realize that happiness truly comes from having a deeper relationship with my Savior Jesus Christ. You know what, when I was still like you. It brought me more emotional, social, physical pain. But God showed me the way to find true happiness. He showed me a way out. I realize that happiness does not come from the outside. It comes from the inside of the person. If you are broken from the inside no matter how happy you are from the outside, you will always feel empty and unloved. Yes, we have our limitations. But as long as you are relying on God's ways, these limitations will give way to victory and strength. I used to be like you, that's why, I know. But nevertheless, since I've been in your situation before, I truly understand.

[G42677]

If that's how you believe then you fail being at being a person.
kailangan may God ka pa para ituro sayo ang tama o mali. and jeez
using the bible as a guide for your moral behavior when it clearly did
more bad than good to us. why?
Killed more. Without a doubt.

Crusades - Estimated around 9,000,000.

Inquisitions - Unknown...

Jhadis - Unknown...

Terrorism...

Need I press on?


Oh, by the by - if we take the Bible literaly, then God killed about... oh, well let's see..

2,038,344 people? Not including, I beleive, the flood.


oh and yeah i found the passage bout homosexuality para sayo lang.

Levictus 20:13
If a man lie with a man, as he lieth with a woman, both of them
have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death;
their blood shall be upon them.

so yeah, since you're gay then you should believe that
you are going to hell!

also look what i found while searching, this one's funny.

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21

how cute... stoning children to death...


still believe in using the bible as your moral code?
goodluck with that, but no thank you


have a good fake life!

Yes of course. Sino kang napakatalinong tao para umimbento ng tama at mali. As we all say, not all that seem right to you may also be the same with other people. Minsan tama sayo pero sa ibang tao mali. That's why we need to have a certain medium to rely to para ma distinguished natin kung ano ang tama sa mali. And who is the Supreme Being that can give us that wisdom, only God who created us. Ano ka, singaw na bigla nalang sumulpot sa mundo at sadyang sumulpot para gawin ang gusto nyang gawin at alam nyang tama at makakapagpaligaya sa kanya. Kung ganon, wala pa lang katuturan ang mabuhay sa mundo.

And one more thing, learn how to interpret the Bible objectively. Wag mong gawing literal lahat. You need to have wisdom coming from the Lord para maintindihan mo ang bawat binabasa mo. But honestly, I respect your belief, my friend. We are all entitled to it. No hard feelings. Just want to express my opinion in everything. Peace na tayo ha. Remember this "GOD LOVES YOU NO MATTER WHAT".