Bakit ba karamihan sa mga OFW galit sa Gobyerno?

[cretinous00]

and where perchance did you based this assumption again? do you have any facts to back up this claim? else your words have no substance. Where i work now is one of the most progressive countriies in the worl so a lot of people from neighboring countries and even caucasians come here to look for jobs. competition here is fierce too get it? do your homework

and how big is that economy compared with the philippines? does it have a far bigger absorption capacity for college graduates? so regale me with your personal experience. i wasn't describing demand for OFWs in totality.

want an example? seamen. want another one? nurses. others? farmers in japan. caregivers in europe.

[cretinous00]

one question: how many sorry filipino a$$es did our corrupt and useless government bail out recently in places like libya, egypt and syria?

[Totnak]

simple answer, no.

even if the package includes having to bring your wife/husband/kid with you?

then you fall under my last definition which does not imply incompetence in you part, nor has the government have anything to do with it. i just have a little problem with your hook-line-sinker mentality surrounding "better offers." i have two reasons why even an outlandish offer won't pull me out of the philippines. one, have gone out and i know i will never be happy working prolonged periods outside. two, proximity to family and friends i count as a serious consideration; and to sacrifice that proximity, coupled with putting yourself at possible risk all in exchange for 3X what your getting is a bit foolish to me.

no it's not...specially if the package would allow me to bring my wife and kid together with me here in Singapore.....

and incompetence is not limited to professional qualification. regardless of your income bracket, you're always at risk of losing it all if you don't use plain common sense. how many VPs do i know whose personal loans are more than 60 times their monthly take-home because they spent and invested stupidly? a lot. how many competent professionals do i know who had to leave because they made unrealistic decisions with regard to things like housing, car purchases, and education for the kids? a lot.

but you have discounted the fact that professionals like me are being taxed at a maximum of 32% withholding tax monthly not to count the 12% EVAT we have to pay for everything that we purchase for almost everything.....

take my case for example....I was earning more than 50k as a PM in Makati....but my take home ends up to just a shade above 37k....almost half of my hard-earned money are being used up for taxes that doesn't translate to efficient public service.....

nice try. i already explained why i don't want to leave. those reasons are stand-alone; they have nothing to do with the fact that i'm earning six-figures in pesos right now, and that my net-worth went past 7-figures even before i started PEXing, and my liabilities are negligible (20,000 balance on my cards? )

good for you......I would assume that you are one of those who were lucky enough to have been a product of middle class families who can afford to go to elite universities thus, increasing the chances of landing a better-paying job back home plus the possibility of having connections to people in the right places......

but not everyone are as lucky as you......

by that time, you won't be too much a slave to visions of riches one can only find abroad, and a slave to foreigners who take every opportunity to belittle you and our country. enjoy.

sorry.....but can you please tell me the difference, from a professional perspective,working for an MNC like Microsoft or IBM back home as against working with the same companies based in Singapore or elsewhere? does it mean that these MNCs have a heightened tendency to enslave us because we work outside of our native land?

I don't think so.......do you?

[my_2_cents]

even if the package includes having to bring your wife/husband/kid with you?

Ayos iyan pero paano kung ma-miss niya sina Lola, Tita, Ate, Kaka at iyong galising aso ng kapitbahay?

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my_2_cents

[cretinous00]

he's too much a slave to money. i had the same attitude before. that's one good thing about growing old. some of the anger goes away.

and yeah, i'm very lucky to get a degree from UP, if at all.

[Totnak]

he's too much a slave to money. i had the same attitude before. that's one good thing about growing old. some of the anger goes away.

and yeah, i'm very lucky to get a degree from UP, if at all.

nah....am not a slave to money...for if I was, then I would have probably gone to Australia by now for bigger perks.....but Australia is too far from home thus, I opted to stay here in Singapore....

[my_2_cents]

he's too much a slave to money.

Basta nagtrabajo sa abroad SLAVE FOR MONEY agad? O baka naman sinusulit lang nila ang CAREER OPPORTUNITY na binibigay sa abroad.

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my_2_cents

[cretinous00]

that's not a 2-cent, that's a question.

he's dangling all kinds of perks in front of me. to someone resolute about not going out to work (for whatever reason) it's close to being insulting.

[my_2_cents]

^^Kaya nga may kasabihang YMMV.

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my_2_cents

[scottstorch]

^ YMMV = You make me vomit ba meaning nun?

: )

[Bigot3AtBalbas]

Laki ng galit ni cretinous sa mga OFWs. Pauwiin na natin sila para sa pinas magtrabaho. Only the competent will win a dishwashing job dahil sa isang dish washing opportunity 1000 ang applicants. Very fierce po.

[dmist24]

"When I am abroad, I always make it a rule never to criticize or attack the government of my own country. I make up for lost time when I come home."

-Winston Churchill

[F-A Soldier]

“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” Winston Churchill

[Bigot3AtBalbas]

Smoking is good for your health - Winston

[Carlos_B]

cretinous, bakit nanggagalaiti ka sa galit sa mga ofw?

[cretinous00]

eh qng naka2galit *** galit nila, eh. u thnk d problm is w me?

[CreamSoda]

here's the bottom line:

There's a lot of greed sa Pilipinas, a LOT of monopoly, They won't let the
investors come in there and comepete and invest kasi lalabas at ma
cocompare how bad their services and how poor the quality of their works.

They won't international news org come in and compete witht he locals kasi
mag mumukhang t@nga ang news feed ng pinas(sad to say but true)

Information is filtered and controlled so control nila what kind of info yung
na gagather ng majority(which are the poors).

A lot of Government regulations! Instead making laws on how to regulate
people BAKIT di nila magawa yung MORE IMPORTANT problems like
solve the traffic/transportation system in manila, flooding, MORE accurate
weather system so we can be truly prepared when storm comes,
CORRUPTION! those are the few.

If the Government truly cares about their skilled people leaving the country,
they will do everything to keep them here. Too bad I don't see that happening
any time soon.

Pride will eat you alive my friend.

[jonslaught]

Hindi talaga maiintindihan ng mga taong galit sa OFW ang mga karanasana kung bakit naging OFW (o mga laking OFW) ang karamihan sa atin.

[jonslaught]

Laki ng galit ni cretinous sa mga OFWs. Pauwiin na natin sila para sa pinas magtrabaho. Only the competent will win a dishwashing job dahil sa isang dish washing opportunity 1000 ang applicants. Very fierce po.

Kung sabagay, imagine mo pauwiin lahat ng OFWs sa pinas dahil sa mentality ni Cretinous.

Ilan nga ba IT professionals, medical professionals, engineers, architects, seamen, etc ang nasang ibang bansa na uuwi.

Tapos dagdag mo na din yung unemployed, underemployed, at fresh graduates na nasa bansa.

Tapos compare mo yung demand ng trabaho.

Then tingnan natin kung ano ang ginagawa ng national government sa kanilang pangakong "job creation" at kung ano progress nila.

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So let's say, mapalad ako sa mga nakakuha ng isang IT job sa Makati at kumikita ng basic na 20k a month. Pero kinakaltas ng gobyerno ng halos 5k. 15k takehome.

Kuryente at tubig. SAmahan na natin ang internet na ginagamit ko sa pagpost dito sa Pex. 5k. O edi may 10k pa ako.

Nagrerenta ako ng unit dahil galing akong probinsya. Dahil swapang ang landlady, sinisingil ako ng 3.5k per month. hmm.. 6.5k.

Pamasahe at pangkain ko sa araw-araw. Dahil taasan ang bilihin, palagay natin 100 isang araw. 3k. may 3.5k pa ako.

Buti at single ako. Pano kaya kung may pamilya pa ako sa probinsya o kaya may anak pa ako ipapaaral. O kaya di ko pa nababayaran yung utang na hiniram ko papuntang Maynila. Eh di wala na ako pangipon pang retiro man lang o pang ospital.

Masuerte na yan sa isang lower middle class. Pano pa kaya mga minimum wage earners?

At magtataka ka na sa lakilaki ng buwis na kinakaltas sa iyo bawat buwan (at isama mo na ang 12% VAT sa mga bilihin), di ka kaya magtaka kung san napupunta eto?

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Pano kaya kung tinawagan ako ng isang MNC sa Singapore at sabi nila ay kikita ako ng 4x sa sahod ko. May pagkakataon ma promote. Bilib sila sa kakayahan mo. 5-10% lang ang babayaran mong tax kada taon. At alam mong gipit ka dahil apat o limang taon ka nang nagbubuno ng buto pero di mo makita nagpapahinga ka na kahit 80 anyos ka na. San ka pa kukuha ng oportunidad para umasenso?
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Maraming (hindi lahat) OFW ang nagagalit sa gobyerno dahil ang panguhaning gawain ng gobyerno ay ipagtanggol ang mga mamamayan neto sa kahirapan at mai-bigay nila ang lahat ng oportunidad ang mga mamamayan sa mga panguhaniing pangangailan: pagkain, seguridad, trabaho, edukasyon at kalusugan. Pero alam naman natin lahat na dahil sa corruption napupunta ang buwis na binibigay ng ordinaryong mamamamayan, nasan ang serbisyo at oportunidad na makukuha nila? Nakikita nila ang ibang bansa na ganito, pero di nila makita sa kanilang bayan.
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[incubusfrmhell]

Di lang naman OFW ang nagagalit sa gobyerno natin sa Pilipinas maski yung mga nakatira dyan eh nagagalit din sa sarili nating bayan. Kaya nga sila bumuo ng grupo diba like NPA, MILF at kung ano ano pa na lumalaban sa ika nga nilang bulok na sistema ng pamamalakad ng bansa...

Pero kung titingnan nating mabuti di lang naman Pilipinas ang may ganitong problema... Kaya nga ang mga bansa mula sa MENA region ay nagkakagulo din dahil di din nila gusto ang pamamalakad ng mga gobyerno nila...

Sa punto ng mga naninirahan at nagtratrabaho sa atin dyan sa pinas. Tama kayo sa punto na hangat maari ay sana wag na umalis ang iba pa nating kababayan at pumunta pa sa ibang bansa para dun manilbihan at magtrabaho kaya lang di naman dapat tayo magalit sa kanila kung sakaling nagbago sila ng pananaw sa gobyerno natin marahil may mga karanasan sila na di maganda mula dito... Isang halimbawa na lang base sa aking experyensa pag nagkakaron ng gusot ang mga empleyado ng isang kumpanya dito sa bansang pinagtratrabahuhan ko at humingi ka ng tulong sa embahada pagpapasapasahan ka nila pero kung may kailangan ka na mga dokumento sa kanila triple ang halaga nito na kung tutuusin eh napakalaking halaga na para sa isang ordinaryong empleyado.

Sa punto naman ng mga OFW di naman siguro dapat magalit ng lubusan sa gobyerno natin sapagkat ang gobyerno din naman natin ay gumagawa ng paraan para mapabuti ang kabuhayan ng nakakarami sa atin... Siguro sadyang kulang lang sa pananalapi o pondo ang ating bansa upang lubusan tayong matulungan mga OFW na nagtratrabaho sa ibang bansa. Isang halimbawa nito eh ang pilit na pagawa ng paraan ng gobyerno natin upang makauwi ang ilan sa kababayan natin na naipit sa gyera sa MENA region nitong mga nakaraang bwan...

Suma total imbes na mag siraan at mag away tayo mas nararapat siguro na mag tulungan na lang tayo upang mas mapaganda pa rin natin ang ating kinabukasan... Kung tutuusin napakabata pa ng ating gobyerno kumpara sa gobyerno ng mga mauunlad na bansa. Isipin natin palagi kung ano ang maganda nating gawin para mas mapaunlad pa natin ang ating bansa isa sa maganda natin gawin ay tangkilikin natin ang ating sariling produkto para naman umunlad yung mga kababayan natin na namumuhunan at nag bibigay ng trabaho sa pilipinas. Sa mga kumikita ng mas malaki sa dahil sa pagtratrabaho sa ibang bansa mas maganda siguro kung mag iipon tayo ng ating kinikita at kung sakaling sapat na ito eh bumalik na tayo sa ating bansa at tayo naman ang mamuhunan at mag bigay ng trabaho.

9 na taon ang nagtrabaho sa pilipinas at ngayon eh mahigit isang taon na akong nagtratrabaho sa ibang bansa. Sa akin obserbasyon sadyang napakagaling nating mga pinoy pag dating sa pagtratrabaho tangalin na lang natin yung mga pag-uugaling di nakakatulong sa ating pag unlad tulad ng crab mentality and manyana syndrome.

Sa ngayon isa sa mga nakaplano ko gawin eh babalik na ako sa ating bansa dala ang aking kunting pera na naipon upang dun magtayo ng negosyong alam ko na makakatulong di lang sa akin kundi sa ilang mga kababayan natin na talentado na nangangailangan ng trabaho...

sana ay tigilan na natin ang argumentong alam natin na di na matatapos... peace pa tayo!!!!