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  1. #61
    Actually in the 3rd issue, battery life while suspended/stand-by is where Win 8 has the opportunity to make a design choice. Android seems to use some sort of "shallow" suspend, where I suspect processes are still running, and it's only mainly the screen (and wifi) that's off.

    It might be a good design choice for Win 8 to opt for a "deep" suspend, which lets the slate recover in 3-5 seconds (as opposed to the 10 seconds for a cold boot) which while not instantaneous is pretty tolerable. If a "deep" suspend for Win 8 ARM devices means that the slates can go for 3 days without recharging, then that's basically on par with the iPad.

    I am imagining a trade off of 3-5 seconds versus split second recovery from standby in order to get that long a battery life is the correct one to make. If MS stays true to its values, they might even want to offer a choice between deep vs. shallow standby - or, as has been suggested, go to shallow standby for the first X minutes, then automatically go into deep standby if not restored within that time. This is the best tradeoff, I'm thinking.

  2. #62
    Four things you'll love about Windows 8
    By DWIGHT SILVERMAN, HOUSTON CHRONICLE
    Updated 10:34 p.m., Monday, September 19, 2011


    1. Improved search
    2. Syncing PCs
    3. WindowsToGo. Suppose you could sit down at any Windows PC and have it boot up as your PC - with your settings, wallpaper, bookmarks and even your favorite software programs. WindowsToGo makes this possible by putting a complete copy of the operating system on a USB flash drive.

    It works like this: Plug a souped-up flash drive into a USB 2.0 or, preferably, 3.0 connection and reboot. If it's a Windows 8 PC configured properly, it will boot from the external drive that's set up to look like the system you normally use. When you're done, just shut down Windows and unplug the drive - there will be no trace of your presence on the hard drive, as all documents and other files stay on the USB drive.

    4. Refresh your PC. Many Windows users think it's a good idea to periodically refresh their PCs by reinstalling the operating system. This can be a real pain, because it involves also backing up and restoring all your documents, then reinstalling your applications.

    In Windows 8, you'll be able to reinstall the operating system, but doing so won't nuke your programs and files, which will be backed up by Microsoft's cloud service. But if you want to do a full "wipe," you can set the PC up as it was when you first brought it home. This takes just a few minutes, and I used it when I returned the loaner tablet to Microsoft.

  3. #63
    http://liliputing.com/2011/09/first-...rototypes.html

    1) Two of the things that have put Windows tablets at a disadvantage when compared with other mobile tablets are the lack of instant-on capabilities and the increased power draw. Windows 8 deals with both of those things, first by supporting low power ARM chips, and second by introducing a new “connected standby” mode.

    2) When a window is open but not running in the foreground, it also goes into a “suspended” mode, where it uses virtually no resources to help improve battery life.

    #2 actually sounds like what iOS does!

    It remains to be seen if Win 8 will be able to match iPad power-miserliness but based on the above, it looks like at the worst it will still be able to match Android devices' consumption.

  4. #64
    I downloaded a Developers Build, got the link from http://lumotech.blogspot.com/2011/09...-released.html I will be installing it using vmware for now, but I heard as of now only vmware8 supports installation of Win8. Can't wait for a tablet running Win8, hope they can release an ARM compatible version soon enough.

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    It works on virtualbox.

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    tagal naman lumabas neto

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerosynth View Post
    Four things you'll love about Windows 8
    By DWIGHT SILVERMAN, HOUSTON CHRONICLE
    Updated 10:34 p.m., Monday, September 19, 2011


    1. Improved search
    2. Syncing PCs
    3. WindowsToGo. Suppose you could sit down at any Windows PC and have it boot up as your PC - with your settings, wallpaper, bookmarks and even your favorite software programs. WindowsToGo makes this possible by putting a complete copy of the operating system on a USB flash drive.

    It works like this: Plug a souped-up flash drive into a USB 2.0 or, preferably, 3.0 connection and reboot. If it's a Windows 8 PC configured properly, it will boot from the external drive that's set up to look like the system you normally use. When you're done, just shut down Windows and unplug the drive - there will be no trace of your presence on the hard drive, as all documents and other files stay on the USB drive.

    4. Refresh your PC. Many Windows users think it's a good idea to periodically refresh their PCs by reinstalling the operating system. This can be a real pain, because it involves also backing up and restoring all your documents, then reinstalling your applications.

    In Windows 8, you'll be able to reinstall the operating system, but doing so won't nuke your programs and files, which will be backed up by Microsoft's cloud service. But if you want to do a full "wipe," you can set the PC up as it was when you first brought it home. This takes just a few minutes, and I used it when I returned the loaner tablet to Microsoft.

    nice!

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Aerosynth View Post
    Four things you'll love about Windows 8
    By DWIGHT SILVERMAN, HOUSTON CHRONICLE
    Updated 10:34 p.m., Monday, September 19, 2011

    ....

    4. Refresh your PC. Many Windows users think it's a good idea to periodically refresh their PCs by reinstalling the operating system. This can be a real pain, because it involves also backing up and restoring all your documents, then reinstalling your applications.

    In Windows 8, you'll be able to reinstall the operating system, but doing so won't nuke your programs and files, which will be backed up by Microsoft's cloud service. But if you want to do a full "wipe," you can set the PC up as it was when you first brought it home. This takes just a few minutes, and I used it when I returned the loaner tablet to Microsoft.
    great!! is that a free service or is it charged for??

    not really a techie person here but i can restore my fresh Win7 from my laptop (sony vaio) with just a click of a button, which i've done once. how is that different aside from not nuking out my files?

  9. #69
    Behind the Windows 8 METRO UI


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  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Aerosynth View Post
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    4. Refresh your PC. Many Windows users think it's a good idea to periodically refresh their PCs by reinstalling the operating system. This can be a real pain, because it involves also backing up and restoring all your documents, then reinstalling your applications.

    In Windows 8, you'll be able to reinstall the operating system, but doing so won't nuke your programs and files, which will be backed up by Microsoft's cloud service. But if you want to do a full "wipe," you can set the PC up as it was when you first brought it home. This takes just a few minutes, and I used it when I returned the loaner tablet to Microsoft.
    It would be a perfect OS if Windows 8 installation could somehow isolate the OS on the separate boot partition while creating another new partition for the program files, saved files, doc files, sound files, DRIVERS, user settings, etc. In an event of a virus, malware infestation, and corruption, the user could just nuke the OS alone on that partition while preserving everything on the other partition untouched. The user will just restore the OS from a back up and the OS will just detect the user settings, installed programs, etc. from the other partition and bring everything back to its original state before the problem.

    I think this is much better than what was designed.

  11. #71
    ^^

    that is a nice idea but most of the non-techie people put their personal files anywhere
    and I know some that consider their desktop as the main folder for everything.

  12. #72
    I know and when problems start, imagine the amount of work done backuping every file. Takes the whole day, if not 2 days.

    That's why I make sure when I prepare my computer, I reserve 40gig for the boot partition, installing and updating everything first - programs, drivers, settings, virus definitions, windows update, etc. and making sure that every file (docx, jpg, png, xls, psd,etc.) will be saved on another partition which will be set individually for every program.

    After that, I make a system image which will be saved on an external hardisk.

    In an event of a virus infestation, corruption, etc. I can just nuke the whole boot drive and restore from the image. This only takes about 8-10minutes. Every software programs installed, drivers, system settings, etc. restored to its original state.

    Saves me from countless of hours/days troubleshooting and scanning for malwares/viruses and the painful Windows and programs re-installation.

    If only Windows 8 were designed this way, perfect OS ever! as people won't ever have to scan their system for viruses again - just refresh and restore.

  13. #73
    I'm sure madami pa din bugs yan. I'll wait for the later versions of windows 8. Don't get too excited in switching OS

  14. #74
    Windows 8 to be more memory efficient than Windows 7



    Another week and there’s more news on Windows 8 being put up on Microsoft’s Building Windows 8 blog. This latest bit of information says that Windows 8 will use less memory than Windows 7. A screenshot shows Windows 8 being set to consume just 281 MB as compared to Windows 7’s 404 MB in similar conditions - that’s more than a 40 percent drop in memory consumption on an idle mode. The demonstration system was running both operating systems with just 1GB of memory. These are still early days, so it’s hard to say exactly how efficient Windows 8 may be, and under what conditions. Performance will also vary based on what kind of system you use and what drivers might be loaded on it.

  15. #75
    Here's how Microsoft made Windows 8 a RAM-sipper


    The Windows 8 blog details the ways in which Microsoft was able to do this. One technique is called memory combining, in which Windows looks at system RAM use, finds duplicate code running for a variety of reasons, then frees up duplicates, running only a single copy of the code.

    full article

  16. #76
    HP and Dell joining hands with Windows 8, readying tablets for 2012
    Oct 18th 2011

    Tech majors Dell and HP are developing tablets powered by Windows 8 according to a report. The next generation tablets are expected to release in the third quarter of 2012

    full article





    Searching in Windows 8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBth3_yG_wU

  17. #77
    Building "Windows 8": Reengineering the Windows Boot Experience


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_PXsY9E3lc

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    Quote Originally Posted by technician2012 View Post
    It would be a perfect OS if Windows 8 installation could somehow isolate the OS on the separate boot partition while creating another new partition for the program files, saved files, doc files, sound files, DRIVERS, user settings, etc. In an event of a virus, malware infestation, and corruption, the user could just nuke the OS alone on that partition while preserving everything on the other partition untouched. The user will just restore the OS from a back up and the OS will just detect the user settings, installed programs, etc. from the other partition and bring everything back to its original state before the problem.

    I think this is much better than what was designed.
    This is precisely WHAT I HAVE TO END UP DOING MANUALLY everytime I install Windows XP or 7.

    For Windows 7:

    http://www.neotitans.com/resources/w...windows-7.html

    For Windows XP:

    http://www.neotitans.com/resources/w...directory.html

    The comments in here:

    http://tuts4tech.net/2009/08/05/wind...ent-partition/

    are very helpful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aerosynth
    that is a nice idea but most of the non-techie people put their personal files anywhere and I know some that consider their desktop as the main folder for everything.
    That's not exactly the issue here... You can move the Desktop folder out from Drive C and onto a different drive (as illustrated in the links above), so that when you need to nuke your OS, you don't have to worry about backing up stuff first.

    In the present cast, you will have to manually restore your settings, but I don't think it will be too difficult to automate this process in the eventually, and it is really something Microsoft should consider doing, seeing as how they seem to have been able to surmount far more difficult challenges such as reducing the size of Windows and improving boot speed considerably.

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