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  1. #21
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    Napapansin ko gn stock index ng HK at Shanghai...ilang araw na siyang dumadausdos, karamihan ay malalaking prosyento...anong nangyayari? Kahit na sabihin mong portfolio investment yan, me epekto pa rin yan sa ekonomiya.

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    you guys should be more concern on what is going around you.. judging the photos of those stupid people bracing themselves at the Manila bay area while they were told to be evacuated...

    China economics is doing good, people are getting out of the slum each day. A lot of people still buy house in China.. while in your country, time and time the storm damaged the slum, it still keeps coming back...shouldn't you be more worried that your slum community is growing??

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    ^^Sana. I rode the bullet train andaming ghost metropolis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ka_deniz View Post
    puro cut and paste ano?

    nung tinanong ni av phile ng details to discuss, see article ang sagot.
    My guess is that the rates are too low, which is similar to what happens in subprime lending.

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    The Chinese Premier announced last week that China will solve the global economic problem by boosting its domestic consumption.

    How do you boost the consumption of a population that doesn't have purchasing power? Raising the wages will just drive the investors back to America which is now suffering from rising unemployment.

    South China Sea is the answer. China will declare war to legitimize private asset utilization for state needs. Those ghost cities will be seized by the government for socialized housing. Every citizen will be on welfare ala food stamp program to efficiently ration food and clothing. Heavy industries from Japan, Korea, US, and Europe will be seized in order to boost production of war material. Everybody wins except those living in Southeast Asia of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugargame View Post
    The Chinese Premier announced last week that China will solve the global economic problem by boosting its domestic consumption.

    How do you boost the consumption of a population that doesn't have purchasing power? Raising the wages will just drive the investors back to America which is now suffering from rising unemployment.

    South China Sea is the answer. China will declare war to legitimize private asset utilization for state needs. Those ghost cities will be seized by the government for socialized housing. Every citizen will be on welfare ala food stamp program to efficiently ration food and clothing. Heavy industries from Japan, Korea, US, and Europe will be seized in order to boost production of war material. Everybody wins except those living in Southeast Asia of course.
    I don't understand how rationing could boost private consumption. Is there so much poverty in China?

  7. #27
    "China CDS Soars On Continued Hard Landing Concerns"

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/china-...nding-concerns

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    "China's Real Estate Bubble — Is The Collapse Here?"

    http://www.declineoftheempire.com/20...apse-here.html

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    "China's Yield Curve Inversion Signals Sharp Slowdown Ahead"

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/chinas...slowdown-ahead

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    "IMF warns China's financial system vulnerable"

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...05d2298554.4a1

    "Buyers and developers face some harsh home truths"

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/20...t_14101590.htm

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    "Guest Post: The Reasons For China's Imminent Bust"

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-...-imminent-bust

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugargame View Post
    The Chinese Premier announced last week that China will solve the global economic problem by boosting its domestic consumption.

    How do you boost the consumption of a population that doesn't have purchasing power? Raising the wages will just drive the investors back to America which is now suffering from rising unemployment.

    South China Sea is the answer. China will declare war to legitimize private asset utilization for state needs. Those ghost cities will be seized by the government for socialized housing. Every citizen will be on welfare ala food stamp program to efficiently ration food and clothing. Heavy industries from Japan, Korea, US, and Europe will be seized in order to boost production of war material. Everybody wins except those living in Southeast Asia of course.
    War increases government spending thus it increases LOCAL consumption.

    I too believe that China's interpretation of economics will lead it to ruin. Much like what happened with the USSR though the cause will be different.

    China's economy is artificially inflated. They are propping up the $ in order to keep their country AND currency attractive to foreign investments and export competitive. However, should the $ fall China will loose some trillions of $ in terms of T-bills and physical dollar reserves. Also, China's economy wont be able to export to the US anymore. It will now need to find other sources of income like the supposed resources that can be found somewhere in OUR backyard.

    Should China decide to go to war over the Spratly Isnlands it will drag the entire region to war. Hence, WW3? lol

    What China is doing is to simply to delay what will eventually happen. A China-wide correction (or bubble burst). Of course, that will always happen to a country which ignores economic fundamentals (ei: you could not forcefully grab land in order to build cities to drive your GDP even when there is no demand for it.)
    Last edited by b_9904; Nov 20, 2011 at 11:41 PM.

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    Re: Condo crash in Manila

    http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/...44&postcount=2

    http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/...58&postcount=4

    http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/...48&postcount=5

    http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/...87&postcount=6

    Unlike in China there is demand in Manila for more residential and commercial (retail and office) spaces. This demand can be seen as more and more people buy residential condo units. As a matter of fact, The Amaryllis (a project of DMCI) has sold a lot of units even if there is no model units yet and before it could break ground. The same could be said for most of the lower to middle income condos out there.

    We could see the demand for retail as more and more malls and shopping centers open up. Mind you only a few of these malls are actually empty or nearly empty. An example is MOA. Its out of the way and a bit isolated BUT people flock to it to shop, dine, and whatever.

    Office, however, well I can't really find specific sources to quote on that one. Suffice it to say that should our economy liberalize and become more "foreign investor friendly" demand for office space will increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prEttyInDistr3ss View Post
    you guys should be more concern on what is going around you.. judging the photos of those stupid people bracing themselves at the Manila bay area while they were told to be evacuated...

    China economics is doing good, people are getting out of the slum each day. A lot of people still buy house in China.. while in your country, time and time the storm damaged the slum, it still keeps coming back...shouldn't you be more worried that your slum community is growing??
    Are you chinese? You sound chginese. Anyway I choose the Philippines anyday over immoral, soulless China

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    "China vice premier sees chronic global recession"

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7AJ06720111120

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    Quote Originally Posted by ming_mow2 View Post
    manloloko naman yang DMCI ang daming hidden chargers at eto pa palpak ang mga condo na binebenta nila, parang hawla ng kalapate
    you missed the point...

    this is not about DMCI or any developer for that matter but about DEMAND for residential condos in Manila.

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