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  1. #61

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    Originally posted by abuGian
    Kung gayun, papano nalaman ng mga Demonyo na si Jesus nga ay anak ng Diyos?
    Again, magkaiba ang knowledge sa wisdom.


    kung wala ngang katotohanan kay Satanas pano nya na-quote ang Salita ng Diyos?
    So are you saying na mali si Kristo, dahil sya ang maysabing walang katotohanan sa kanya?

    Anyway, porke ba marunong siyang mag-quote ng Bible e katotohanan na ang sinasabi niya? As proof na hindi nga gayun e maraming mga gumagamit ng Biblia na mali naman ang pagkamit.

    I Tim 1:8
    [8] Now we know that the law is good, if any one uses it lawfully,

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    you did not answer my question:

    Kung gayun, papano nalaman ng mga Demonyo na si Jesus nga ay anak ng Diyos?

    So are you saying na mali si Kristo, dahil sya ang maysabing walang katotohanan sa kanya?
    i did not say that, i was qualifying how you understand "walang katotohanan kay Satanas"

    now will you answer my question:

    kung wala ngang katotohanan kay Satanas pano nya na-quote ang Salita ng Diyos?

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    you keep missing my point:

    Satan knows what the truth is, he even knows that his time is coming short.

    Satan has no truth in him, in the sense that you will not get the truth from him because he keeps perverting what he knows the truth.

    How can you pervert something you do not know?

    You might end up saying the truth, then this violates the Scripture which says there is no truth in him (Satan).

  4. #64

    Post Re: Re: Faith. Ain't it a *****.

    Originally posted by basti


    Sabi mo: It's not because they desire to attest that they're right or anything, or they'd like to prove to us that they're the true religion. They're doing it because those troglodytes want to impress us.

    Saan ang proof mo? Ang galing mo naman, parang nababasa mo ang mga laman ng isip namin. Ikaw ba si Madam Auring?
    What I have said is an observation, not a factual statement. And what I'd like to point is, I'm not referring to you, or to the other contributors of this thread. I was referring to the InC-vs-ADT bashings... kaya bago ka magsailta ng kung anu-ano d'yan, intindihin mo muna 'yung binabasa mo.

  5. #65

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    Originally posted by abuGian
    Kung gayun, papano nalaman ng mga Demonyo na si Jesus nga ay anak ng Diyos?
    Kulitz. Knowledge. Alam ng mga demonyo na si Jesus ay anak ng Dios dahil bago pa naging demonyo ang mga iyon e mga anghel iyon ng Dios.

    i did not say that, i was qualifying how you understand "walang katotohanan kay Satanas"
    Ok.

    kung wala ngang katotohanan kay Satanas pano nya na-quote ang Salita ng Diyos?
    Bakit? Hindi ba siya marunong magbasa?

  6. #66

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    Originally posted by basti


    Nagtatago ka naman ng information e. Ang Ta ran ta do e misguided or misdirected.


    Source: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

    Main Entry: con·fused
    Pronunciation: -'fyüzd
    Function: adjective
    Date: 14th century
    1 : being perplexed or disconcerted <the confused students>
    2 : INDISTINGUISHABLE <a zigzag, crisscross, confused trail -- Harry Hervey>
    3 : being disordered or mixed up <a contradictory and often confused story>

    Main Entry: mis·di·rect
    Pronunciation: -d&-'rekt, -(")dI-
    Function: transitive verb
    Date: 1603
    1 : to give a wrong direction to
    2 : to direct wrongly <misdirected their energies>

    Main Entry: mis·guid·ed
    Pronunciation: (")mis-'gI-d&d
    Function: adjective
    Date: 1659
    : led or prompted by wrong or inappropriate motives or ideals <well-meaning but misguided do-gooders>

    So, ang misguided ay led by wrong or inappropriate motives. Iyan ba e intentional?
    saan mo naman nakuha yung misguided as synonymous to misdirected?

    misdirect as a transitive verb is a whole lot different from misdirected as an adjective.

    Nagmarunong na naman kasi...

    PEACE

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    Question to the members of INC

    1. pakiliwanag lang po kung paano naging tao lang si Jesus Christ

    2. bawal ba sa inyo mag-basa ng bible?

    3. totoo bang walang kaligtasan ang mga taong hindi naaanib sa inyo ?













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    Cool Hello Basti, fellow RPG player.

    Originally posted by basti
    Kulitz. Knowledge. Alam ng mga demonyo na si Jesus ay anak ng Dios dahil bago pa naging demonyo ang mga iyon e mga anghel iyon ng Dios.

    Bakit? Hindi ba siya marunong magbasa?
    1. Do you mean to say that Satan doesnt know that the KNOWLEDGE he has is true?
    2. Are you pointing out that Satan was reading when he quoted scriptural passages to Jesus?
    3. Do you believe that Satan is not wise?

    It is more likely that what Jesus meant (John 8:44) was that Satan WILL NOT LEAD anyone to the truth. Why? If it is indeed that there is no truth from Satan, if he doesnt know any truth. Then how can he be called a liar? A liar is someone who perverts what he know is right.

    My friend, I used to like Soriano too & learned much from him. He may be a bible master but he's still only human. He makes mistakes too. In fact the biggest mistake he ever made was when he bragged that he'll have his head chopped off if he (is proven to) teaches something wrong. He was wrong when he said that the interpretation of the bible is from the bible itself. Thats HIS interpretation.

    Knowledge & wisdom are two different things like you said. Wisdom is the mental ability to process raw information (knowledge) to produce favorable outcomes. Do you agree?

    Therefore it makes sense that Satan is indeed diabolically wise & cunning. Or else how can he be so successful today, eh?

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    Post Satan's Devices

    Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

    2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

    2 Corinthians 2:11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

    2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

    Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

    2 Timothy 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

    Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

    Hopefully this should convince our friend, Basti, that the Devel/Satan/Serpent is diabolically wise and cunning: thus somehow it would open his mind to the truth that Soriano’s teachings may not necessarily be of God.

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    Kung hindi sa Diyos yung pangangaral ni Bro Soriano, eh baket hindi ninyo sagutin yung mga assignments niya?


    QUESTIONS:
    1. Nasaan ang Diyos bago pa Niya nilikha ang mga langit at lupa?

    2. Ano ang wala sa Garden of Eden? (hint: magkaiba yung salitang "wala" sa "kulang". Kumpleto ang Garden of Eden, pero ano yung wala doon?)

    3. Ano ang banal na halik (holy kiss) ayon sa Romans 16:16?

    4. Sino ang "Ina ng Patutot" o "Mother of Harlots" ayon sa Apocalipsis?

    6. Ano ang apat na hangin sa Apocalipsis?

    7. Ano ang dalawang bagay na hindi nababago sa Diyos ayon sa Hebrews 6:18?

    8. Si Cristo ba may "horn" o "sungay"?

    9. Anong siyudad ba o lungsod o city yung "dakilang lungsod" o "great city" na binabanggit sa Apocalipsis 17?

    10. Sino ang babaeng mangaganak ayon sa Apocalipsis 12?

    11. Ano ang pinakamahabang araw sa buhay ni Adam?


    Iyan ang ilan sa mga tanong para subukin natin ang bawat espiritu kung sila'y sa Diyos sapagkat maraming nagsilitaw na mga bulaang propeta sa sanlibutan (1 John 4:1).

    1 Juan 4:1
    "Mga minamahal, huwag kayong magsipaniwala sa bawat espiritu, kundi inyong subukin ang mga espiritu kung sila'y sa Diyos, sapagka't maraming nagsilitaw na mga bulaang propeta sa sanlibutan."

    Jeremias 6:16
    "Ganito ang sabi ng Panginoon: Magsitayo kayo sa mga daan at magsitingin kayo, at ipagtanong ninyo ang mga dating landas, kung saan nandoon ang mabuting daan. At magsilakad kayo roon, at kayo'y mangakakasumpong ng kapahingahan sa inyong mga kaluluwa. ..."

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    Post sagot sa assignment ni soriano

    Kung hindi sa Diyos yung pangangaral ni Bro Soriano, eh baket hindi ninyo sagutin yung mga assignments niya?
    Eh di sagutin natin....

    QUESTIONS:
    1. Nasaan ang Diyos bago pa Niya nilikha ang mga langit at lupa?
    Eh di hindi sa "spatial" na langit at hindi rin sa "spatial" lupa

    2. Ano ang wala sa Garden of Eden? (hint: magkaiba yung salitang "wala" sa "kulang". Kumpleto ang Garden of Eden, pero ano yung wala doon?)
    Hmm... wala bang ibang clue? Kita mo mukhang yung impormasyon nya nagmula talaga doon sa isa sa tatlong mga nilikha na nasa Eden.

    3. Ano ang banal na halik (holy kiss) ayon sa Romans 16:16?
    Eh di, halik na banal. Pwera biro, sabi nila Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset and David Brown sa Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871):

    16. Salute one another with an holy kiss--So 1Co 16:20; 1Th 5:26; 1Pe 5:14. The custom prevailed among the Jews, and doubtless came from the East, where it still obtains. Its adoption into the Christian churches, as the symbol of a higher fellowship than it had ever expressed before, was probably as immediate as it was natural. In this case the apostle's desire seems to be that on receipt of his epistle, with its salutations, they should in this manner expressly testify their Christian affection. It afterwards came to have a fixed place in the church service, immediately after the celebration of the Supper, and continued long in use. In such matters, however, the state of society and the peculiarities of different places require to be studied.
    Sabi naman ni Matthew Henry sa kanyang Commentary on the Whole Bible (1721)

    Lastly, He concludes with the recommendation of them to the love and embraces one of another: Salute one another with a holy kiss. Mutual salutations, as they express love, so they increase and strengthen love, and endear Christians one to another: therefore Paul here encourages the use of them, and only directs that they may be holy--a chaste kiss, in opposition to that which is wanton and lascivious; a sincere kiss, in opposition to that which is treacherous and dissembling, as Judas's, when he betrayed Christ with a kiss. He adds, in the close, a general salutation to them all, in the name of the churches of Christ (v. 16):
    4. Sino ang "Ina ng Patutot" o "Mother of Harlots" ayon sa Apocalipsis?
    Simbolik yun, basa:

    Sa kaniyang noo ay may nakasulat na isang pangalan: HIWAGA ANG DAKI-LANG BABILONYA. ANG INA NG MGA PATUTOT AT NG MGA KARUMAL-DUMAL SA LUPA (Pahayag 17)

    Sabi ni Ray C. Stedman:

    More than dozen ancient writers describe Rome as the city built on seven hills. This was familiar terminology in the 1st century. And that identification is further confirmed by what John is told in Verse 18:
    "The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth." {Rev 17:18 NIV}

    In John's day that could only be one city -- Rome. "The great city," which was the capital of the Roman Empire that dominated the whole known world of that day, literally ruled over the kings of the earth. But at that time the church in Rome was not a counterfeit church; it was a genuine Christian assembly. At the end of the 1st century when John is writing this, it was the church of the catacombs. It was persecuted and hounded and had to hide in the caves of the earth underneath the city. That probably explains the last part of Verse 6 where John tells us that when he saw the woman seated upon the beast, "I was greatly astonished." Why? Doubtless it is a great surprise to him to see that the church he knew in Rome would become a great harlot church, dominating the kings of the earth.

    When we put all these clues together it is impossible to avoid the conclusion that this pictures the Roman Catholic Church. It is a church that arises during the present church age, but comes to its greatest power in the last seven years of this age, after the true church has been raptured. When we say that, we must remember that we are not talking about Roman Catholic people. We think of the church as people, but the Roman church itself teaches that the church is the clergy -- the papacy and the hierarchy -- not the people. It is interesting that Catholic scholars themselves admit as they study this section of Revelation that it is Rome which is described here, but they say it is pagan Rome. The only problem with that is that John would not have been a bit surprised that pagan Rome persecuted the saints of God. He expected that for this was common by his time. But to see the church itself persecuting the saints of God is what astonished him so.

    It would be simplistic to say this describes the Roman Catholic Church and that church alone. We must remember, first of all, that there are many true saints within the Roman Catholic Church. There have been godly popes, bishops, priests and nuns through the centuries. I have met some of them; so, perhaps, have you. What we need to understand is that it is the teaching of the Roman church that is described here -- the extra-biblical teachings from pagan sources that have been brought in under the name of Christendom. They involve a seeking of earthly power or status gained by religious authority. That is Babylonianism. That is what first arose in the city by the Euphrates -- a search for earthly power and glory by religious means. The Tower of Babel was built unto heaven, and the people said, "We will make a name for ourselves." That is Babylonianism.
    There are many religious groups and churches today that are afflicted by this taint. Not only the Roman Catholic Church, but also Orthodox churches, Anglican churches, Eastern churches, Western churches, Protestant churches, Independent churches, Charismatic churches, and Evangelical churches -- many of them reflect this same error. Our good friend, Eugene Peterson, who has such a gift for putting things powerfully, says it well:

    Whoredom is sex connected with money. Worship under the aspect of the Great ***** is the commercialization of our great need and deep desire for meaning, love and salvation. The promise of success, ecstasy and meaning that we can get for a price is *****-worship. It is the diabolical inversion of "You are bought with a price," to, "I can get it for you wholesale."
    6. Ano ang apat na hangin sa Apocalipsis?
    Hindi ba mula sa Timog Kanlungan Silangan at Hilaga? Basa...

    1Pagkatapos ng mga bagay na ito, nakita ko ang apat na anghel na nakatayo sa apat na sulok ng lupa. Pinipigil nila ang apat na hangin ng lupa upang walang hanging makaihip sa lupa o sa dagat o sa anumang punong-kahoy. (Pahayag 7:1)

    sabi ni Matthew Henry noong 1721:

    Here we have, I. An account of the restraint laid upon the winds. By these winds we suppose are meant those errors and corruptions in religion which would occasion a great deal of trouble and mischief to the church of God. Sometimes the Holy Spirit is compared to the wind: here the spirits of error are compared to the four winds, contrary one to another, but doing much hurt to the church, the garden and vineyard of God, breaking the branches and blasting the fruits of his plantation. The devil is called the prince of the power of the air; he, by a great wind, overthrew the house of Job's eldest son. Errors are as wind, by which those who are unstable are shaken, and carried to and fro, Eph. iv. 14. Observe, 1. These are called the winds of the earth, because they blow only in these lower regions near the earth; heaven is always clear and free from them. 2. They are restrained by the ministry of angels, standing on the four corners of the earth, intimating that the spirit of error cannot go forth till God permits it, and that the angels minister to the good of the church by restraining its enemies. 3. Their restraint was only for a season, and that was till the servants of God were sealed in their foreheads. God has a particular care and concern for his own servants in times of temptation and corruption, and he has a way to secure them from the common infection; he first establishes them, and then he tries them; he has the timing of their trials in his own hand.
    sabi naman ni Ray C. Stedman (1995)

    Here four angels are seen withholding something that is about to come upon the whole earth. What is it that they are restraining? They are told to hold back the four winds that are about to blow upon the earth. Winds are a symbol of devastating and destroying power. The TV pictures of the terrible devastation left behind by Hurricane Hugo when it blew across the southern states of the East Coast recently leave us in no doubt how apt it is to use wind as a symbol of judgment. The same destructive power is seen in one of these whirling dervishes, called tornadoes. Here, then, is a picture of terrible judgment that is about to fall on the earth, a devastating power or force that is to be released soon.
    7. Ano ang dalawang bagay na hindi nababago sa Diyos ayon sa Hebrews 6:18?
    basa:

    18Sa pamamagitan ng dalawang bagay na hindi kailanman nagbabago, hindi maaari para sa Diyos ang magsinungaling sa pamamagitan ng dalawang bagay na iyon. Ginawa niya ito upang tayo ay magkaroon ng matibay na kalakasan ng loob, na mga lumapit sa kaniya upang manangan sa pag-asang inilagay niya sa harapan natin.

    Sabi naman ni Matthew Henry ayon sa konteksto(1) the counsel and the (2) oath of God

    Sabi naman nila Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset and David Brown, noong 1871, ayon sa konteksto: (1) His sure word (2) His oath: the "TWO immutable things

    Ang Kanyang (1) karakter (kasama na dito ang salita at ang mga pangako Niya) at (2) ang kanyang pagka-Diyos ay hindi rin nagbabago

    8. Si Cristo ba may "horn" o "sungay"?
    Simbolik din ito ng kapangyarihan, Mem

    9. Anong siyudad ba o lungsod o city yung "dakilang lungsod" o "great city" na binabanggit sa Apocalipsis 17?
    Makikita natin sa Pahayag/Apokalipsis, 10 bese nabanggit ang "Great City"

    Revelation 11:8 the great city... spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt Revelation 14:8 Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city
    Revelation 16:19 great city was ...great Babylon
    Revelation 17:18 great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
    Revelation 18:10 great city Babylon,
    Revelation 18:18 ...What city is like unto this great city!

    Revelation 18:16 great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

    "Great City" = the mystical Babylon. May kasunod ka pa siguro na tanong dito kasi alam ko na kung ano ang tinutukoy mo eh. Ang Babylon ay kilala sa pagiging "world's capital of idolatry"


    10. Sino ang babaeng mangaganak ayon sa Apocalipsis 12?
    Basahin muna natin...

    1At lumabas ang isang dakilang tanda sa langit. Isang babaeng nararamtan ng araw. Ang buwan ay nasa ilalim ng kaniyang mga paa. Sa kaniyang ulo ay may isang putong na may labindalawang bituin. 2At siya ay nagda-langtao. Sumisigaw siya sa sakit ng panganganak dahil manga-nganak na siya (Pahayag)

    tignan natin ang paliwanag ni by Ray C. Stedman (c) 1995 by Discovery Publishing, 3505 Middlefield Road, Palo Alto, CA. 94306-3695.:

    The question that leaps at us from these verses is, "What is meant by these great signs? What or whom do they symbolize?"

    Two of them are relatively easy to identify, and once we find who those two are the third one will be unmistakable. The dragon is the easiest to identify, because later, in Verse 9, we are told exactly who he is. The verse says, "The great dragon was hurled down -- that ancient serpent called the devil or Satan, who leads the whole world astray." Here, then, is the devil, appearing as a great red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns upon his heads. We are also told that he is the ancient serpent, the very one who appeared in the Garden of Eden to Eve, deceived her, and introduced sin into the human race. He appears here as a dragon, which is simply a super-serpent and a symbol of satanic worship in many countries of the world yet today.

    His work is described also in Verse 9: The entire career of the devil is engaged in deceiving the whole inhabited earth, i.e. lying to the human race. We will see much more of this as we go on in this book.

    The male child that is born to the woman is the next easiest to identify because we are told in Verse 5 that he is the one "who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter," or "a rod of iron." Many of you will recognize that the latter phrase is taken from the Second Psalm, which is quoted or referred to four different times in Revelation. In some ways Psalm 2 is the basic Scripture out of which the whole book is expanded and grows. The psalm speaks of God establishing his kingdom on his holy hill of Zion: "I will set my King on my holy hill of Zion" {Psa 2:6 KJV}, and "he will rule the nations with a rod of iron," {cf, Psa 2:9 KJV}. Clearly that is a reference to our Lord Jesus.
    The reference to a rod of iron always indicates a millennial scene, the thousand-year reign of Christ on earth. He reigns with a rod of iron (with strict justice), because, though it is a time of worldwide blessing and prosperity and the curse is at least partially removed from nature, it is also a time when sin is still manifest to some degree. Righteousness reigns in the earth, but it has to be enforced. We will see more of that too as we go on in this book. When we come to the new heavens and the new earth, which John will be shown in the closing two chapters of this book, then Christ no longer reigns with a rod of iron because sin has been fully dealt with; nothing evil will enter that scene at all. There he appears as a tender, loving Shepherd, ministering to his people personally and showing great kindness to them.
    This brings us to the identity of the woman. Who is this strange woman who appears clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet and twelve stars in a crown around her head?

    The Roman Catholics say it is Mary, since she was the mother of Jesus, as this account shows the symbolic woman to be. But the problem with that theory is that there is no way you can fit Mary into Verse 6! There we learn that "the woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days." That never happened to Mary, and it never will. This is not a picture of an individual but rather of a group of people.

    Some commentators say she symbolizes the church. The church is pictured at the close of Revelation as the bride of Christ, i.e. as a woman. But it is impossible for this woman to represent the church because the church did not produce Jesus. It is quite the other way around. It was the Lord who produced the church -- the church is born out of the wounded side of Jesus. Therefore that symbolism does not fit the picture here.

    We must, therefore, look at the clues that are given us to know the identity of this woman. She is clothed with the sun, the moon is under her feet, and a crown of twelve stars around her head. The only other place where those three symbols are used together in this way is in Genesis 37, the story of Joseph as a young boy who has a dream. He dreamt one night that the sun, the moon and 11 stars came and bowed down before him. He made the mistake of telling his dream to his father and mother and his brothers, and they were very upset by it. His father rightly interpreted it to mean that Joseph was to be exalted in some way, and the whole family would come and bow down before him. We know from subsequent history that this actually did happen. Joseph became the second ruler of Egypt and his father and mother and his 11 brothers all came and bowed down before him.

    It is clearly then a description of the nation of Israel. (Joseph would make the twelfth of the stars.) The Apostle Paul says of the Jews in Romans 9:5: "To them is traced the human ancestry of Christ." It was Israel that humanly brought forth the Christ. That is why Jesus told the woman at the well of Samaria, "Salvation is from the Jews," {John 4:22 KJV}. It comes to Gentiles by that route. So the woman here is Israel, brought to prominence again. As one commentator well describes it, "Thus she is seen clothed with the glory of the sun -- that is of Christ himself as He will presently appear in supreme power as the Son of Righteousness (Mal 4:2); for the sun is the ruler of the day. As a consequence, her glory of old before the day -- dawn, the reflected light of her typical system, is like the moon under her feet. Upon her head the crown of 12 stars speaks naturally of her twelve tribes, planets now around the central sun."
    11. Ano ang pinakamahabang araw sa buhay ni Adam?
    wala ka bang clue? Parang alam ko na ito ah, pero bigyan mo muna ako ng iba pang clue.

    Iyan ang ilan sa mga tanong para subukin natin ang bawat espiritu kung sila'y sa Diyos sapagkat maraming nagsilitaw na mga bulaang propeta sa sanlibutan (1 John 4:1).
    Mem, mas mukhang pagsubok ito sa dunong at talino sa Biblia hindi sa kung sa kami ay sa Diyos nga o hindi...

    Tandaan nalamang sana ng mga makakabasa ang mga sumusunod:

    19Ngayon ang mga gawa ng laman ay nahahayag. Ang mga ito ay ang pangangalunya, pakikiapid, karumihan, kahalayan. 20Mga pagsamba sa diyos-diyosan, pangkukulam, pag-aalitan, paglalaban-laban, paninibugho, pag-uumapaw sa poot, pagka-makasarili, pagkakabaha-bahagi, pagkakampi-kampi. 21Mga pagkainggit, pagpatay, paglalasing, magulong pagtitipon at mga bagay na tulad ng mga ito. Ito ay ipina-paunang sabi ko sa inyo katulad ng sinabi ko sa inyo noong una. Ang mga gumagawa ng ganoong mga bagay ay hindi magmamana ng paghahari ng Diyos. 22Ngunit ang bunga ng Espiritu ay pag-ibig, kagalakan, kapayapaan, pagtitiis, kagandahang loob, kabutihan, pananam-palataya, 23kaamuan, pagpipigil sa sarili. Walang kautusan laban sa mga bagay na ito. 24Ngunit naipako na sa krus ng mga na kay Cristo ang laman kasama ang mga masasamang pita at mga pagnanasa nito. 25Yamang tayo ay nabubuhay sa pamamagitan ng Espiritu, nararapat lamang na tayo ay lumakad ng ayon sa Espiritu. 26Huwag tayong maghangad pa ng karangalang walang kabuluhan na kung hangarin natin ito, magkakainisan at magkakainggitan tayo sa isa't isa. (Galacia 5)

    16Sinasabi nilang kilala nila ang Diyos ngunit siya ay ipinagkakaila nila sa pamamagitan ng kanilang mga gawa. Sila ay kasuklam-suklam, masuwayin at hindi makagagawa ng anumang mabuti. (Tito 1)

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    Cool

    MEM: “2. Ano ang wala sa Garden of Eden?”
    SAGOT: Eh di beer, t.v., computer, internet, brod.Eli, at Britney Spears, kaya boring hehehe.
    (tawa naman dyan oh)

    MEM: “3. Ano ang banal na halik (holy kiss)?”
    SAGOT: Kung ikaw nahalikan ng anghel siguradong banal yon. Hehehe.


    >>>>ETO SERYOSO NA<<<<

    MEM: “1. Nasaan ang Diyos bago pa Niya nilikha ang mga langit at lupa?”

    DOC: Pre, may tatlong klasing langit: Atmosphere, Outer Space, Heaven(the spiritual kind). Anung klaseng mga langit ba ang tinutukoy mo?

    Originally posted by MEM
    Iyan ang ilan sa mga tanong para subukin natin ang bawat espiritu kung sila'y sa Diyos sapagkat maraming nagsilitaw na mga bulaang propeta sa sanlibutan (1 John 4:1).
    DOC: Sorry pre, pero ang mga tanong na yan ay para subukin ang galing sa bibliya (biblical knowledge) ng isang tao.

    If you really wanna know the spirit then why not check the fruits? If the spirit is from God then the person should exhibit ALL of the following: Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Self Control.

    All of the exposed false preachers/prophets have been known to lack 2 or more of these fruits; in exchange, they exhibit the spirits of Greed, Rudeness, Attrition, Lust, etc.

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    Yung tanong ko na Nasaan ang Diyos bago pa Niya nilkha ang mga langit at lupa?

    Yung mga langit is heavens, ibig kong itanong, "Nasaan Siya bago yung Atmosphere, Outer Space, Heaven na binanggit mo. In short, NOONG WALA PANG HEAVEN, nasaan siya?

    Since God created Heaven, therefore, mas nauna Siya kaysa sa Heaven, so nasaan Siya bago pa Niya ginawa yung Heaven?

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    Just for reference, MEM has asked the "Nasaan ang Diyos bago..." question before, in this thread.

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    Originally posted by MEM
    Since God created Heaven, therefore, mas nauna Siya kaysa sa Heaven, so nasaan Siya bago pa Niya ginawa yung Heaven?
    SAGOT: Pre, HINDI KO ALAM. Sorry. That proves the questions you posted are for testing biblical knowledge, not the spirit. It has nothing to do with salvation - oh people got saved without knowing fine details like these. It also has nothing to do with christian living.

    CAN YOU ANSWER MY QUESTIONS IN THE MEANTIME?

    1. Do you still believe that satan has no wisdom & no truth in his mind whatsoever?
    2. Do you believe that Soriano will never make the mistake of teaching something wrong? (like what the pope claims)
    3. How can the questions you posted test the spirit when a man's knowledge can be totally different to what he actually does? (like the Pharisees)

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    Originally posted by DoctorNO


    SAGOT: Pre, HINDI KO ALAM. Sorry. That proves the questions you posted are for testing biblical knowledge, not the spirit. It has nothing to do with salvation - oh people got saved without knowing fine details like these. It also has nothing to do with christian living.
    Dr. No, may kinalaman sa kaligtasan yung tanong ko na kung saan ang Diyos bago pa Niya nilikha ang mga langit at lupa. Sapagkat doon tayo dadalhin ni Cristo sa Ama.

    John 14:2-6
    "In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. You know the way to the place where I am going." Thomas said to him, "Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?" Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."


    So ang tanong: Saan tayo dadalhin ni Cristo?

    Juan 14:2-6
    "Sa bahay ng aking Ama ay maraming tirahan. Kung hindi gayon ay sinabi ko sana sa inyo. Ako ay paroroon upang maghanda ng dako para sa inyo. Kapag ako ay pumaroon at makapaghanda ng dako para sa inyo, ako ay muling babalik. Kayo ay aking tatanggapin sa aking sarili upang kung saan ako naroon ay dumuon din kayo. Kung saan ako pupunta ay alam ninyo. Alam na ninyo ang daan. Sinabi sa kaniya ni Tomas: Panginoon, hindi po namin alam kung saan kayo pupunta. Paano namin malalaman ang daan? Sinabi ni Jesus sa kaniya: Ako ang Daan, ang Katotohanan at ang Buhay. Walang sinumang makakapunta sa Ama maliban sa pamamagitan ko."

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    Question Re: For MEM

    Originally posted by DoctorNO
    CAN YOU ANSWER MY QUESTIONS IN THE MEANTIME?

    1. Do you still believe that satan has no wisdom & no truth in his mind whatsoever?
    2. Do you believe that Soriano will never make the mistake of teaching something wrong? (like what the pope claims)
    1. Do you believe that satan has no wisdom & no truth in his mind whatsoever?
    SAGOT:

    Walang katotohanan sa Diablo. Sinasabi iyan sa sa Juan 8:44 ay ganito ang nakasulat:

    "Kayo'y sa inyong amang diablo, at ang mga nais ng inyong ama ang ibig ninyong gawin. siya'y isang mamamatay-tao buhay pa nang una, at hindi nananatili sa katotohanan, sapagka't WALANG KATOTOHANAN sa kaniya. pagka nagsasalita siya ng kasinungalingan, ay nagsasalita siya ng sa ganang kaniya: Sapagka't siya'y isang sinungaling, at ama nito.

    Pero may sariling karunungan ang Diablo na hindi gaya ng sa DIos, na mababasa sa Ezekiel 28:17

    "Ang iyong puso ay nagmataas dahil sa iyong kagandahan; iyong ipinahamak ang iyong KARUNUNGAN dahil sa iyong kaningkinga: aking inihagis ka sa lupa, kaing inilagay ka sa harap ng mga hari, upang kanilang masdan ka"

    Eh ano ba yung Karunungang iyon? Sa Ezekiel 31:10

    "Kaya't ganito ang sabi ng Panginoong Dios; Sapagka't ikaw ay nataas sa kataasan, at inilagay niya ang kaniyang dulo sa gitna ng gma mayabong na sanga, at ang kaniyang puso ay nagmataas sa kaniyang pagkataas"

    Isa sa mga karunungan ng Diablo ay yung pagmamataas laban sa Dios o paggawa ng masama laban sa katotohanan, Ano ang katunayan sa Santiago 3:14-16

    "Ngunit kung kayo'y mayroong mapapait na paninibugho at pagkakakampikampi sa inyong puso, at huwag ninyong ipagmapuri at huwag magsinungaling laban sa katotohanan"

    "Hindi ito ang karunungang bumababa mula sa itaas, kundi ang nauukol sa lupa, sa lamant, sa Diablo.

    "Sapagka't kung saan mayroong paninibugho at pagkakampikampi, ay doon mayroong kaguluhan at lahat ng gawang masama."


    At siyempre, yung karunungan ng Diablo ay hindi karunugan ng Dios, sapagka't ang karunungan ng Dios ay si Cristo, sa I Cor 1:24

    "Ngunit sa kanila na mga tinawag, maging mga Judio at mga Griego, si Cristo ang kapangyarihan ng Dios, at ang karunungan ng Dios.

    AT yung karunungan ng diablo ay nauuwi lamang sa wala. nakasulat sa I Cor 2:6

    "Gayon man, ay nangagsasalita kami ng karunungan sa mga may gulang, bagaman hindi ng karunugang ng sanglibutang ito, o ng mga mga may kapangyarihan sa sanglibutang ito, na sa mga ito'y nangauuwi sa wala."

    Bago muna natin makita yung karungunan ng sanglibutan, eh sino ba yung Dios ng Sanglibutan? II Cor 4:4

    "Na binulag ng dios ng Sanglibutang ito ang mga pagiisip ng mga hindi nagsisisampalataya, upang sa kanila'y huwag sumilang ang kaliwanagan ng evangelio ng kaluwalhatian ni Cristo, na siyang larawan ng Dios."

    Ang karunungan ng sanlibutan na tinutukoy ni Apostle Pablo ay yung karunungang ng Dios ng sanglibutan, sa laman, sa lupa, sa Diablo. Santiago 3:14-15

    "Ngunit kung kayo'y mayroong mapapait na paninibugho at pagkakakampikampi sa inyong puso, at huwag ninyong ipagmapuri at huwag magsinungaling laban sa katotohanan"

    "Hindi ito ang karunungang bumababa mula sa itaas, kundi ang nauukol sa lupa, sa lamant, sa Diablo."


    Kaya may karunungan din ang Diablo, pero hindi karunungan na mula sa Langit, hindi galing sa Ama ng mga ilaw na walang pagbabago o anino man ng pagiiba.


    2. Do you believe that Mr. Soriano will never make the mistake of teaching something wrong? (like what the pope claims)
    About this questions. Itanong mo na lang kay Soriano, or e-mail ka sa angdatingdaan@eudoramail.com or angdatingdaan@hotmail.com. I know the answer pero Risky kung basta-basta ako ang sasagot. Walang maling teaching si Soriano KUNG Binabasa sa biblia yung aral. Kasi mas-sure at less risk kung ang aral ay binabasa sa biblia.
    AT Makikita mo naman at masasaksihan mo kung paano siya makipagtuligsaan at makipagkatwiranan sa mga pastor, ministro, pari, evangelist sa panahong ito. Edi sana kung mali siya, sana may nakapagpamali na sa kaniya kung humaharap siya sa ng katwiranan sa mga pastor. etc.
    Alam mo naman si Bro. Eli, hindi niya nilalabas yung lahat ng nalalaman niya sa broadcast, pero paghumarap na sa debate ay doon mo makikita lahat ng hindi mo pa niririnig at mga karunungang hindi pa niya nilalahad sa pamamagitan ng broadcasting. At iyon ang isa sa mga natutunan ko sa kaniya.

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    Originally posted by MEM
    Kaya may karunungan din ang Diablo, pero hindi karunungan na mula sa Langit, hindi galing sa Ama ng mga ilaw na walang pagbabago o anino man ng pagiiba.
    Like what I said: "Diabolically" wise & cunning.

    Question: How would YOU explain when the bible says na "walang katotohanan sa diablo".

    Because, if the devil doesnt know any truth then he cant be called a lier either right?


    ADVICE: Brod, magaling si Soriano at mukha namang ok yung mga aral at gawain niya. Pero hindi lang ang samahan niya ang maliligtas, pre. Kasi pano naman ang the rest na 5 billion people na hindi mga pilipino di ba? The important thing is GOD'S MESSAGE OF SALVATION at christian living. Yung mga minor details ay hindi kailangang malaman para maligtas bastat hwag ka lang gagawa ng malaking labag sa tinuturo ng bibliya. Kayat easy ka lang pre.

    Salamat po.

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    Originally posted by DoctorNO

    Like what I said: "Diabolically" wise & cunning.

    Question: How would YOU explain when the bible says na "walang katotohanan sa diablo".

    Because, if the devil doesnt know any truth then he cant be called a lier either right?


    ADVICE: Brod, magaling si Soriano at mukha namang ok yung mga aral at gawain niya. Pero hindi lang ang samahan niya ang maliligtas, pre. Kasi pano naman ang the rest na 5 billion people na hindi mga pilipino di ba? The important thing is GOD'S MESSAGE OF SALVATION at christian living. Yung mga minor details ay hindi kailangang malaman para maligtas bastat hwag ka lang gagawa ng malaking labag sa tinuturo ng bibliya. Kayat easy ka lang pre.

    Salamat po.
    You are absolutely correct!

    Bro Soriano said that those people who never heard the gospel of God have chances of being saved by Christ!

    Because biblically, innocence/ignorance of law is EXCUSED! This is different from our constitution wherein ignorance of law has no excuses.

    Kaya, God is a loving God, He cares for all generations as written in

    Psalm 100:5
    "For the LORD is good and his love endures forever; his faithfulness continues through all generations. "


    Ang Kanyang kahabagan ay sa lahat ng saling lahi!

    Lucas 1:50
    "Ang kaniyang kahabagan ay sa lahat ng saling lahi, sa kanila na may pagkatakot sa kaniya."


    Kaya mas may chance na maligtas yung mga hindi pa nakapakinig ng evangelio ng Diyos kaysa sa mga nakapakinig na at ayaw naman tuparin gaya ng nasusulat sa

    Santiago 4:17,1:15
    "Kaya nga, ang sinumang nakakaalam sa paggawa ng mabuti at hindi ito ginagawa, ito ay kasalanan sa kaniya. Kapag ang masidhing pita ay naglihi, ito ay nanganganak ng kasalanan. Kung ang kasalanan ay naganap, ito ay nagbubunga ng kamatayan."

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    Question Re: Re: Re: Re: For MEM

    Originally posted by MEM
    Bro Soriano said that those people who never heard the gospel of God have chances of being saved by Christ!

    Because biblically, innocence/ignorance of law is EXCUSED! This is different from our constitution wherein ignorance of law has no excuses.
    What you are referring here are those people who died without even knowing the name 'Jesus Christ' - like the ancient Aztecs, American Indians & Mongolians.

    >>My question was whatabout those 3 or more billion people who belong in various christian denomintations?
    >>You know some of those denomintations are radical deviants from the original christians. Their doctrines would enrage the apostles. Examples are Roman Catholic Church, Mormons, Scientology, INC, Jehovah's witnesses, etc.
    >>You know some of those denominations have strong similarities to the original christians. Their major doctrines are quite biblical. However, some minor details may vary accordingly. Examples are Baptists, Evangelicals, Lutherans, ICOC (MMCC), ADD(?)

    >>So what do you think? Are some of these denominations open for salvation? Do you think the 11 questions you asked above are required for salvation? Is ADD the only modern church that God will accept?

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