Cheaper building and construction methods

[almycha1]

Mayroon talagang construction materials na we don't want to buy cheap para makamura lang kundi we have to buy quality materials.
Examples:
1. Steel bars - dapat kung ano ang nasa plan ay sundin ang size ng steel bars.
2. Drainage pipes - dapat best quality ang bilhin dahil para maiwasan ang pagbabara ng drainage.
3. Paint and Painters - base sa experience ko dapat best quality ang paint na gagamitn at yung pintor ninyo ay magaling din. Marami akong nakitang bahay at commercial units na after one year lang ay bakbak na ang pintura. Ganyan din ang nangyari sa units namin kaya lesson na namin ito.
4. Exterior main door - the best na kung kiln dried ang bilhin para maiwasan ang pag urong o expand ng pintuan.
5. Water pipes - mas magaling kung bilhin ninyo ay yung walang dugtong o yung roll na at kung mag dugtong man ng connection ay outside the unit na para madaling hanapin ang leak pag dating ng panahon.

[miletjs]

Hello po,

Pasensya na po, i repost ko lang ulit yun tanong ko sa kabilang page baka kasi matabunan

San pa ba pwedeng makamura?

Plano ko ipa convert yun bahay ko nun single pa ako. Nakatira na kasi ako with my husband sa bahay nila. May bungalow house na ako sitting on a 170 sqm lot. More or less 160 sqm ang flr area including the garage area

Magkano ang usual cost for demoliton? Totoo ba na 45k ang magagastos dito?

Magkano magpa hauling? 1k daw each trip. Mga 6 trips daw yon

Plan ko itayo ay 5 door apartment. Tig 35 sqm lot area each unit and 40 sqm floor area each unit na 2-story each

Mura na ba ang 400k para sa:
Total Labor ng workers excluding demolition and hauling
Structural works - foundation, chb, palitada, roofing na rib type, trusses, plumbing except fixtures, masilya, septic tank

Mga magkano kaya magagastos ko para sa mga natira pang materyales na dapat bilin:
Metal furring for ceiling
Gypsum board 9mm thick
Other ceiling works (screw, etc)
Paint flat for interior
Plywood for drywall (2 bedroom partitions)
Electrical wiring (ano ano po ba ang kailangan bilin para sa electrical part?)
Pinlights
Elastomeric paint (majority white with touch of a little brown - zen design)
Plyboard for kitchen cabinet
Anodized window sliding (and all costs for installing anodized windows) and clear glass 1/4" thick
Flush door .6 or .7 wide
Tanguile solid door .7 or .8 wide


Yun mga lavatory, sink, tiles may idea na ako magkano ito.

Meron pa ba akong nakalimutan? Kung meron, mga magkano kaya yun?

Salamat po

[cyberfunk]

Nalimutan mo ata yun dapat na mauna. Magpagawa ka ng complete set of plans. May kasaman bill of materials ito to answer lahat ng tanong about materials and basis din ito para sa bid ng labor.

[miletjs]

Ah.. Inuna ko po kasi muna maghanap based sa mga gusto ko maging kakalabasan ng bahay kasi tTight budget po kasi ako. Ang worry ko lang po kung magpagawa ako agad ng set of plans (15k), tapos wala naman pala akong makukuhang contractor na within budget, masasayang lang po yun 15k ko kasi hindi ko po talaga ma pu-pursue kung lalagpas sa budget/pera ko. Kaya nagtatanong po muna ako roughly mga magkano ang cost para kung kakayanin po ng budget ko, saka ako magpapagawa ng plano with my specifications sa materials

Thanks po.

P.S.
Magkano ang usual cost for demoliton? Totoo ba na 45k ang magagastos dito?

Magkano magpa hauling? 1k daw each trip. Mga 6 trips daw yon. Totoo po ba yon?

[edgeswp]

Hello po,

Pasensya na po, i repost ko lang ulit yun tanong ko sa kabilang page baka kasi matabunan

San pa ba pwedeng makamura?

Plano ko ipa convert yun bahay ko nun single pa ako. Nakatira na kasi ako with my husband sa bahay nila. May bungalow house na ako sitting on a 170 sqm lot. More or less 160 sqm ang flr area including the garage area

Magkano ang usual cost for demoliton? Totoo ba na 45k ang magagastos dito?

Magkano magpa hauling? 1k daw each trip. Mga 6 trips daw yon

Plan ko itayo ay 5 door apartment. Tig 35 sqm lot area each unit and 40 sqm floor area each unit na 2-story each

Mura na ba ang 400k para sa:
Total Labor ng workers excluding demolition and hauling
Structural works - foundation, chb, palitada, roofing na rib type, trusses, plumbing except fixtures, masilya, septic tank

Mga magkano kaya magagastos ko para sa mga natira pang materyales na dapat bilin:
Metal furring for ceiling
Gypsum board 9mm thick
Other ceiling works (screw, etc)
Paint flat for interior
Plywood for drywall (2 bedroom partitions)
Electrical wiring (ano ano po ba ang kailangan bilin para sa electrical part?)
Pinlights
Elastomeric paint (majority white with touch of a little brown - zen design)
Plyboard for kitchen cabinet
Anodized window sliding (and all costs for installing anodized windows) and clear glass 1/4" thick
Flush door .6 or .7 wide
Tanguile solid door .7 or .8 wide


Yun mga lavatory, sink, tiles may idea na ako magkano ito.

Meron pa ba akong nakalimutan? Kung meron, mga magkano kaya yun?

Salamat po

tangguile door- .7 or .8 wide around 5,000
Ill pm my contact #

[miletjs]

tangguile door- .7 or .8 wide around 5,000
Ill pm my contact #

Thanks so much!

Baka may contact na din po kayo for flush doors and screen doors (anodized/analok) na mura po. Salamat!

[qualitydude101]

hello po.

kung gusto nyo rin i-consider... suggestion ko lang na bigyan ng attention ang pagiging maintenance-friendly at safety features ng electrical at plumbing system.

try nyo i-consider na maging convenient ang future repairs, access sa water control valves, clean outs at electrical grounding system.

sana makatulong sa inyong planning stage.

[miletjs]

hello po.

kung gusto nyo rin i-consider... suggestion ko lang na bigyan ng attention ang pagiging maintenance-friendly at safety features ng electrical at plumbing system.

try nyo i-consider na maging convenient ang future repairs, access sa water control valves, clean outs at electrical grounding system.

sana makatulong sa inyong planning stage.

sir any suggestion po para maging maintenance friendly at safe ang electrical and plumbing system?

[Kentthegreet]

guys, I need help. I need a cement/concrete mixer for my house construction. I found one from Sulit that cost around 5K inclusive of mobilization for a month. May I know if someone here na may alam na nag pa rent ng concrete mixer for a month. Lower than 5K? I need to use it on Monday, March 26. Thanks in advance.

[cyberfunk]

guys, I need help. I need a cement/concrete mixer for my house construction. I found one from Sulit that cost around 5K inclusive of mobilization for a month. May I know if someone here na may alam na nag pa rent ng concrete mixer for a month. Lower than 5K? I need to use it on Monday, March 26. Thanks in advance.

Looking at your avatar, are you a cyclist/rider Kent?

[Kentthegreet]

Looking at your avatar, are you a cyclist/rider Kent?

I am, Sir. Crashes 3 times. Riding is just my passion.

[qualitydude101]

sir any suggestion po para maging maintenance friendly at safe ang electrical and plumbing system?

for plumbing, make use of pipe chase whenever applicable. correct location of accessible cleanouts, separation/control valves..

for electrical, use proper fittings for your rough-ins for smooth pulling of wires. locate the pull boxes with easy access. install a grounding/bonding system.

for auxilliary, such as telephone/internet/cable tv.. install termination boxes for clean/easier installation by service providers.

thanks.

[Kentthegreet]

Follow question lang mga sir. I have an on going 3 storey with roofdeck house construction in a full 50sqm lot. Anong round bars iron grade na maerecommend nyo? Grade 33 or 40? TIA.

[miletjs]

for plumbing, make use of pipe chase whenever applicable. correct location of accessible cleanouts, separation/control valves..

for electrical, use proper fittings for your rough-ins for smooth pulling of wires. locate the pull boxes with easy access. install a grounding/bonding system.

for auxilliary, such as telephone/internet/cable tv.. install termination boxes for clean/easier installation by service providers.

thanks.

ano po yun pipe chase and rough-ins?

[qualitydude101]

ano po yun pipe chase and rough-ins?

pipe chase. a space where only pipe or conduit are being installed. instead na nakalubog sa hollow blocks ang pipes, gngawaan ng area para maging accessible for maintenance/repairs.

rough-ins. from panel board to power outlet/lighting fixtures, lahat ng dadaanan ng wires ay maaaring tawagin na parte ng rough-ins.

[HellyRoxy]

Hi All,

Has anyone of you used EVG 3D instead of CHB? Can you tell us your experience? Info will be very helpful.

[o5k33]

I have been involved in 3 diff projects now.
1. Condo Fitout
2. House renovation - Add room over garage, extend house for new kitchen and Maid's room.
3. 100 sq meter rest house in Tagaytay

From my observations, there are several items that can be improved in the current construction practices that will can produce savings in the long run. Also, the quality of the work is much better. I'll be using these as guidelines on my next project.

1.Metal Scaffolding - instead of coco lumber, find a contractor who has metal scaffolding as part of their tools. Sobra sayang ang coco lumber and its really not that cheap. After use, wala rin naman sila purpose. Also better if the contractor already has the formworks in hand such as smooth phenolic boards instead of plywood.

2. Smooth Interior Walls - just use hardiflex and metal furring instead of finish palitada. From my estimate, the amount of labor and materials will be similar. Plus your walls would look much better. You will also save on painting since you are painting the hardiflex.

3. Exterior walls - better to start using Prime-R or WeldSeal instead of the old way of lason, primer, paint method.

4. Countertops - Granite Tile Tops ... I'm trying this out on the rest house. One other option is concrete countertop but I'm not sure if anybody here in the Philippines can do them well.

5. Buy materials yourself and only hire contractor for labor. Biggest saving for any project. For example, a major expense is electrical works. Go do yourself a favor and buy from T. Alonzo in Manila. Just on wires and outlets, the savings can be over 30%. While you are there, also buy your cabinet hinges and other finishing items instead of wilcon or home depot.

6. Ceiling works - Hardiflex should be used instead of plywood. Cost is about the same.

7. Construction Contract - base payments on deliverables rather than progress. What I mean is every payment should correspond with actual completion and not based on weeks progressed. For example, have a payment schedule for actual procurement of building permit by the contractor, payment for pouring of subfloor slab, payment for finishing plumbing works. This has been my biggest mistake in the current project. Masyado ako nagtiwala sa contractor.

Please correct me if I'm wrong in my assumptions. I'm making notes so when I do my next project, I'll try to incorporate these.

Thanks for sharing this very helpful tips @ arnold!

[agave]

From my observations, there are several items that can be improved in the current construction practices that will can produce savings in the long run.

...

4. Countertops - ... One other option is concrete countertop but I'm not sure if anybody here in the Philippines can do them well.

Had concrete countertops done in a recent project and they were done well by the architect and closely associated contractor/workers, so I can say that there are people who can do them well. However, I get the sense that these people like to keep their secrets to themselves, do not like to freely share their complete knowledge and hard-won expertise.

What would be great is if someone could 'open source' concrete countertop making. In other words, selflessly share/publish their formula and techniques. Is there any architect or concrete countertop fabricator who has done this already?

There are lots of nice books on concrete countertops with pretty pictures, but short on details and practical info.

[shankie30]

I have been involved in 3 diff projects now.
1. Condo Fitout
2. House renovation - Add room over garage, extend house for new kitchen and Maid's room.
3. 100 sq meter rest house in Tagaytay

From my observations, there are several items that can be improved in the current construction practices that will can produce savings in the long run. Also, the quality of the work is much better. I'll be using these as guidelines on my next project.

1.Metal Scaffolding - instead of coco lumber, find a contractor who has metal scaffolding as part of their tools. Sobra sayang ang coco lumber and its really not that cheap. After use, wala rin naman sila purpose. Also better if the contractor already has the formworks in hand such as smooth phenolic boards instead of plywood.

2. Smooth Interior Walls - just use hardiflex and metal furring instead of finish palitada. From my estimate, the amount of labor and materials will be similar. Plus your walls would look much better. You will also save on painting since you are painting the hardiflex.

3. Exterior walls - better to start using Prime-R or WeldSeal instead of the old way of lason, primer, paint method.

4. Countertops - Granite Tile Tops ... I'm trying this out on the rest house. One other option is concrete countertop but I'm not sure if anybody here in the Philippines can do them well.

5. Buy materials yourself and only hire contractor for labor. Biggest saving for any project. For example, a major expense is electrical works. Go do yourself a favor and buy from T. Alonzo in Manila. Just on wires and outlets, the savings can be over 30%. While you are there, also buy your cabinet hinges and other finishing items instead of wilcon or home depot.

6. Ceiling works - Hardiflex should be used instead of plywood. Cost is about the same.

7. Construction Contract - base payments on deliverables rather than progress. What I mean is every payment should correspond with actual completion and not based on weeks progressed. For example, have a payment schedule for actual procurement of building permit by the contractor, payment for pouring of subfloor slab, payment for finishing plumbing works. This has been my biggest mistake in the current project. Masyado ako nagtiwala sa contractor.

Please correct me if I'm wrong in my assumptions. I'm making notes so when I do my next project, I'll try to incorporate these.

any advise constructing Bahay-kubo?

credit to cyber! thanks cyber


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