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    Why I Stand Against RH Bill

    "Respect for, protection and fulfillment of reproductive health and rights seek to promote the rights and welfare of couples, adult individuals, women and adolescents."

    -rights of couples, yes. rights of adult individuals, so-so. adolescents? oh my, please! who wants their adoloscent kids to have sex as much as they want to because they have this bill allowing them of their "right?" if you intend to teach these kids really, teach them to be moral according to the teachings of the Church and not the teachings of the state.

    "The provision of medically safe, legal, accessible, affordable and effective reproductive health care services and supplies is essential in the promotion of people’s right to health, especially of the poor and marginalized."

    -yeah right, poor again. you are using the poor again. "Medically safe?" Then how come countries like Japan suffers with such a high rate of AIDS when in fact they are using condoms and other types of contraceptives? Then why does the International Agency for Research on Cancer says that oral contraceptives are considered as part of the First Group or carcinogens (or those that causes cancer)?

    "While this Act recognizes that abortion is illegal and punishable by law, the government shall ensure that all women needing care for post-abortion complications shall be treated and counseled in a humane, non-judgmental and compassionate manner."

    -"...needing care for post-abortion complications...." i think there's something with this statement. On the first part you're saying you recognize that abortion is illegal, and yet on the latter part, you mentioned about treating post-abortion. Isn't that a clear implication that it is actually pro-abortion? Hmmm...

    "The State likewise guarantees universal access to medically-safe, legal, affordable, effective and quality reproductive health care services, methods, devices, supplies and relevant information and education thereon even as it prioritizes the needs of women and children, among other underprivileged sectors."

    -"Universal access," does that mean we can buy contraceptives anytime, anywhere? Like, without the doctor's prescription? So that means, teens could buy it and enjoy the pleasure of engaging to sex? Wow!

    "Each province and city, with the assistance of the DOH, shall establish or upgrade hospitals with adequate and qualified personnel, equipment and supplies to be able to provide emergency obstetric and neonatal care. For every 500,000 population, there shall be at least one (1) hospital with comprehensive emergency obstetric and neonatal care and four (4) hospitals or other health facilities with basic emergency obstetric and neonatal care; Provided, That people in geographically isolated and depressed areas shall be provided the same level of access."

    -are you kidding? let's face it, at these times, you are not providing "the same level of access" already, so how sure are the people that you will really use the money to "establish or upgrade hospitals with adequate and qualified personnel, equipment and supplies?"

    "...PhilHealth shall pay for the full cost of family planning."

    -Does that mean, we need to pay extra for this new service that they will offer? Hmmm... Shall there be an assurance that everyone will get the said benefit when they want to?

    "Products and supplies for modern family planning methods shall be part of the National Drug Formulary and the same shall be included in the regular purchase of essential medicines and supplies of all national and local hospitals and other government health units."

    -"Regular purchace?" So it really means it's gonna be accessible! Really! WOW! I wonder where these people's conscience are. No, I am not holy, but yes, I have conscience - at least.

    "A multi-dimensional approach shall be adopted in the implementation of policies and programs to fight poverty."

    -Sounds nice, but i believe this bill is NOT the answer to eliminate poverty in this country. Many times that the word "poor" have been used, but are this really for the poor? Shall this bill really fight poverty or give another room for corruption in the government? People, stop using the poor. Please!

    "All serious and life threatening reproductive health conditions such as HIV and AIDS, breast and reproductive tract cancers, obstetric complications, menopausal and post-menopausal related conditions shall be given the maximum benefits as provided by PhilHealth programs."

    -Good but funny. Should we wait until a lot of women suffer from the effects of these contraceptives later on or should we stop it now? Remember, pills are GROUP 1 of carcinogens or those that leads greater chances of cancer.

    "Age-appropriate Reproductive Health and Sexuality Education shall be taught by adequately trained teachers in formal and non-formal educational system starting from Grade Five up to Fourth Year High School using life skills and other approaches."

    -Hmmm... I think I have to oppose to the age bracket. I remember seeing then the proposed module/booklet that the educators will be using when teaching sex education. I guess that was years ago. I saw it on TV. I felt disgusted. Come on! Did you see the illustrations of those booklets? That was really leading kids to curiousity and not otherwise. I still believe that sex should be taught in a more appropriate manner and in a more appropriate age bracket, or best, let parents educated their kids. That is their role anyway.

    "Prohibition: Any healthcare service provider, whether public or private, who shall: Refuse to extend health care services and information on account of the person’s marital status, gender, sexual orientation, age, religion, personal circumstances, or nature of work."

    -So even kids could ask for it. It's clear, regardless of age. I wonder how you could take a let's say, 13 years old asking about sex education. Wow! Another probition:

    "Any person who maliciously engages in disinformation about the intent or provisions of this Act."

    -So what if, I am an individual who would tell my kids what is right according to what I believe in, which is against RH, and my kids, knowing the "law" (as taught in their schools) would tell authorities about it, does that mean I am already doing something against the "law," therefore i shall be imprisoned? Yes.

    For further reference, the RH bill is actually violating the law. As the law says:

    " The State recognizes the sanctity of family life and shall protect and strengthen the family as a basic autonomous social institution." (1987 Phil. Constitution Art. II Sec. 12)

    -The human life starts when the sperm fuses the egg cell. There are contraceptives that are taken after sex, which means, after the meeting of the egg and the sperm. Thus, preventing that fertilized egg to fully develop. Note that ones the sperm and the egg unites, it is already considered as human as it already have 46 chromosomes (23 from male sperm, 23 from female egg), which is the requirement to complete a human being. Therefore, abortion is obtained.

    "Pursuant to the natural right and duty of parents over the person and property of their unemancipated children, parental authority and responsibility shall include the caring for and rearing them for civic consciousness and efficiency and the development of their moral, mental and physical character and well-being" (Philippine Family Code Article 209)

    -When this law passes, parents will no longer be in authority towards teaching their kids what is right - as per sex education is concern. For it is when parents teach their kids to do otherwise, they will be faced by the jurisdiction of the said law.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by filipinowanderer View Post
    I wonder how you could take a let's say, 13 years old asking about sex education. Wow!


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  3. #3
    simple lang..
    sabi ng simbahan..."..humayo at magparami .."

    ang tanong...
    pag dumami anak ng mga gung0ng na magulang
    at walang mapakain,
    simbahan ba ang magpapakain?

  4. #4


    Ride for you!

  5. #5
    eto lang paniwala ko

    oppose sa RH Bill = out of reality

    pro RH Bill = realistic

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiko Travel View Post
    eto lang paniwala ko

    oppose sa RH Bill = out of reality

    pro RH Bill = realistic
    Ako naman ay ganto:


    oppose sa RH Bill = uber religious and moralist natatakpan na yung logic nila. Hindi marunong magmasid kung ano talaga nangyayari sa bansa.

    pro RH Bill = pratical, logical, iniisip ang kapakanan ng bansa. Mas aware kung ano ang nangyayari sa bansa.

    I dare people that opposes the RH Bill na pumunta sa mga squatter's area at mag-ampon ng mga batang mahihirap. I DARE THEM!

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    Mga bulag sa katotohanan ang nag-ooppose sa RH bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangasar View Post
    Ako naman ay ganto:


    oppose sa RH Bill = uber religious and moralist natatakpan na yung logic nila. Hindi marunong magmasid kung ano talaga nangyayari sa bansa.

    pro RH Bill = pratical, logical, iniisip ang kapakanan ng bansa. Mas aware kung ano ang nangyayari sa bansa.

    I dare people that opposes the RH Bill na pumunta sa mga squatter's area at mag-ampon ng mga batang mahihirap. I DARE THEM!
    Excellent pangasar. I hope this shuts up those hypocrites who claim to be prolife but don't care what the situation of those people are in now.

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    Baccalaureate Mass namin kahapon. Nairita ako dahil RH BILL ang sermon. Le che. Graduating kaya kami. Hindi pagsesex at pagpapamilya ang gusto naming marinig.

    Siya nga pala, filipinowanderer, ang isang batas, laging open para sa iba't iba nating interpretasyon. Pero ang tanging keyword lang naman dapat na ma-emphasize dito ay HINDI MORALITY, kundi reality.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by nikkilove View Post
    Excellent pangasar. I hope this shuts up those hypocrites who claim to be prolife but don't care what the situation of those people are in now.
    paki-klaro lang eto since I'm really unclear about it.

    what is really the reason for pushing for the rh bill? parang, what is the main objective of the rh bill?

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    well sorry for the poor choice of words, medyo nakaka frustrate lang kasi, yung iba na kontra ng kontra sa RH bill, eh di naman sila ang nagpapasan ng paghihirap ng mga pamilyang hindi alam ang gagawin when it comes to family planning.

    pero napapanahon na ang pag eeducate at pag de distribute ng readily accessible devices. hindi ka ba nangangani na ang mga bata sa daan eh parang mga pusa or asong kalye lang, while the parents are still adding the number of their children.

    it's time to put quality into the lives of these poor families by guiding & offering them choices with reproductive health.

  12. #12
    si tito sotto nagpapabango sa simbahan. sorry I dont buy it.

  13. #13
    We have finite resources but a steadily infinitely-growing population.

    The burgeoning slums of Metro Manila, Metro Cebu, Metro Davao, Metro Iloilo, Metro Baguio, Metro Cagayan De Oro and so on...are testament to this.

    We really need to temper our population growth a bit so that we can allow resources to be more beneficial to the populace and thus redound to better quality of life.

  14. #14
    thank you fenn. great points there.

  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by nikkilove View Post
    well sorry for the poor choice of words, medyo nakaka frustrate lang kasi, yung iba na kontra ng kontra sa RH bill, eh di naman sila ang nagpapasan ng paghihirap ng mga pamilyang hindi alam ang gagawin when it comes to family planning.

    pero napapanahon na ang pag eeducate at pag de distribute ng readily accessible devices. hindi ka ba nangangani na ang mga bata sa daan eh parang mga pusa or asong kalye lang, while the parents are still adding the number of their children.

    it's time to put quality into the lives of these poor families by guiding & offering them choices with reproductive health.
    well.. personal opinion ko lang ha. this is a case of uneducation. undoubtedly the most effective form of family planning method is abstinence plus the realization that a level of maturity and responsibility is needed to not only make a child but also to bring up a child.

    i'm all for health (or s3x) education but to make contraceptive devices readily available for the reason of "parang mga pusa at asong kalye" is not only demeaning but also degrading. parang sinabi mong hindi na sana nabuhay ang mga bata kakalat kalat sa kalye.

    it's not their fault. it's the fault of their parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revelations View Post
    well.. personal opinion ko lang ha. this is a case of uneducation. undoubtedly the most effective form of family planning method is abstinence plus the realization that a level of maturity and responsibility is needed to not only make a child but also to bring up a child.

    i'm all for health (or s3x) education but to make contraceptive devices readily available for the reason of "parang mga pusa at asong kalye" is not only demeaning but also degrading. parang sinabi mong hindi na sana nabuhay ang mga bata kakalat kalat sa kalye.

    it's not their fault. it's the fault of their parents.


    Payo ko lang ha, pumunta ka sa squatter's area, tapos tanungin mo sila kung bakit sila anak ng anak.

    Bolding is mine. That is the reason why we need to educate them, passing the RH Bill will educate people.

    Abstinence? Wake up! This is not some 50's movies we are living in. Open your eyes.

    Again, go to squatter's area and ask them why and how. Then we will talk.

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    I didn't say sana di na lang nabuhay yung mga bata, I think I was taken out of context, the criticism was on the parents na di na nga maalagaan ang mga anak nilang buhay na, nagpaparami pa ng anak.

    I've been there Revelations, during my internship for several weeks in different shanties and slums in Manila. And no one can describe the misery that those children are experiencing because of their irresponsible parents.

    yes, the parents should be educated and be given a "choice". Not passing the RH bill means we are agreeing that they must remain ignorant re. the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangasar View Post
    Payo ko lang ha, pumunta ka sa squatter's area, tapos tanungin mo sila kung bakit sila anak ng anak.

    Bolding is mine. That is the reason why we need to educate them, passing the RH Bill will educate people.

    Abstinence? Wake up! This is not some 50's movies we are living in. Open your eyes.

    Again, go to squatter's area and ask them why and how. Then we will talk.
    bakit ako? ikaw ang pumunta and ask them why and how. hindi lang isa ha since alam naman natin na kanya-kanya ang mga rason nila.

    so what is the most effective method? condoms? yeah right. more on this later.. dami pa ako gagawin for today

  19. #19
    Let's put it this way!

    The status quo is UNACCEPTABLE.

    Not passing the RH Bill = perpetuating the status quo.

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    I admire the one who shouted Damaso in the Manila Cathedral, he should be supported. although I admit natawa nung una sa ginawa nya, but I have to hand it to him, he's got guts!

    pero mas natawa ko sa mga pari, di man lang talaga natatauhan.

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