Totoo Bang Bobo Na Mga Taga Up Ngayon??? O Mayaman Lang?

[Mr_Nightshade]

Napansin ko po sa iba kong schoolmates dito sa UPLB, hindi nila ino-observe ang correct usage ng "ng" at "nang" whenever they write. Don't you guys think it's embarassing?

Napakasimple kasi nun para magkamali pa... Sana macorrect naman...

[Mr_Nightshade]

^correction pala...

Hindi lang "sa ibang" kundi "most of them" na

Sana lang po, macorrect naman 'yung ganung common grammar error kasi nakakahiya po

UP students/graduates pa naman po tayo

[jo24]

Wala na pong ganyang course dito sa UPLB. BS Biology na lang po. May 8 major options po: Zoology, Wildlife Biology, Plant Biology, Systematics, Genetics, Cell and Molecular Biology, Ecology, and Microbiology

Huhulaan ko po. Nasa early 30's po kayo?

Correct. Nasa pangalan ko ang edad ko.

blah blah blah

Hindi lang po grades ang basehan para sabihing matalino ang isang tao

Agree. In fact maraming successful sa trabaho na "average" lang sa school. At may mga topnotchers na di successful sa careers nila. Yung kasabihan na experience is the best teacher ay totoong totoo. Kaya low grades in school do not guarantee success or failure in your chosen field.

Dominated pala by UP graduates yung board exam for chemists. Goes to show marami pa ring matalino sa UP. Pero meron ding matatalino na wala sa UP. Pero dahil UP is UP, it will always be a magnet sa mga pinakamatatalinong nilalang.

I was in the last batch unaffected by the TOFI and as far as I have observed, yes, there is a change in culture. Kids are less reactive to issues surrounding them, more materialistic and less respectful to elders who I'd consider made wise by time.

But I think "BOBO" is too harsh of a word coming from a supposedly educated person. You guys must have heard the term "multiple intelligence??"

Indeed it is sad that there are smarter yet financially unfortunate people who weren't able to enroll and that the administration had changed its ways. But I have confidence on the new UP President.

But UP still has UPCAT to start with, and there are still good professors left that will not tolerate delinquents. Therefore I conclude that despite all, UP still has the most people with higher IQ, in terms of acads I mean. No doubt.

I'm almost tempted to ask kung anong batch ka kaso ayoko ring matanong para secret ang edad. It's just that nung nag-UP ako many years ago, ganyan din reaction ko. Iniisip ko lang if you are a lot younger and ganyan din ang views mo ngayon, then it is possible na meron lang kasi tayong expectations na maka-masa ang mga taga-UP so when we see all these rich kids, yung mga apathetic na ang concern lang ay makakuha ng high grades, etc., we think there has been a recent change when that "change in culture" actually happened decades ago. That what everyone sees now is really the new norm.

I have no doubt there has been a change based on the stories I have exchanged with my parents and relatives who went to UP a long, long time ago.

Dun sa issue na "apathetic" na ang UP students ngayon, we have to recognize though na different kasi ang circumstances noon kesa ngayon. Nung panahon ni Marcos, mataas talaga ang level of student activism. Pero nung dumating si Cory at eventually mawala si Marcos, I think, kung ako ang tatanungin, dun nagsimula ang sinasabi nilang apathy ng mga taga-UP ngayon. Yung old school activism went out of style so to speak. We have to look at the possibility kasi na itong mga student activists forgot to adjust to the current times. They made themselves obsolete. Puro pa rin sila anger kung magsalita, as if we are still under the same environment nung 70s. Sure a lot of the issues like poverty, unequal opportunities, exploitation of laborers/unfair labor practices, corruption, nangyayari pa rin yan ngayon. But the approach of some student activists repel instead of attract student participation. Maraming nate-turn-off sa kanilang pamamaraan ng pakikibaka kahit agree naman sa mga issues na ipinaglalaban.

Ang alam ko, mas mura pa rin ang tuition fee sa UP as compared to other top universities... magkano na nga ba?

Mas mura although di na ganun kalaki ang difference unlike nung panahon ng parents ko. Meron kasi akong nakilala na taga-FEU, at nagulat ako nung time ko na mas mura lang by 5,000 pesos ang tuition ko sa kanya. I didn't know meron naman palang okay na alternative to UP na maa-afford ng parents ko.

Talagang UP-or-bust ako nun. Kasi akala ko talaga UP lang ang may affordable education. Salamat talaga at pinalad akong makapasok sa UP.

Well, oo, maraming well-off families sa UP. Sa batch ko nga, maraming mga taga-province, at ang mga personalities nung mga taga province eh either 'haciendera' o anak ng politician. Pero don't get me wrong, they were excellent students.

Pay a visit to UP Manila and you'll realise na ang problema na ng UPM ngayon eh parking. HAHA! Well marami na rin namang mga students na nakatira sa Robinsons, kaya unti-unti na na-free up yung parking slots. O diba, sosy na talaga ang mga UP students ngayon. Hehehe.

Totoo yan. May mga anak ng politiko, taga-Comelec, commissioner ng PBA, may ari ng hospital, haciendero, etc. Yung mga kakalase kong mayayaman, marami sa kanila anak ng mga UP grads. Yung mga magulang nila, di pa rich nung nag-aaral pa sila. Pero dahil nga magagaling, naging successful sila sa kanilang mga trabaho. Syempre ang mga magulang, gusto nila mag-aral rin sa UP mga anak nila. Kaya itong mga anak nila, 2nd generation of UP students na sanay sa maginhawang pamumuhay. Di naman nila kasalanan yun.

Kaya masasabi ko lang sa mga students na tingin nila nasa middle class sila or living below poverty line, nasa kamay nyo ang ipagbabago ng buhay nyo. Modesty aside, guminhawa ang buhay ko dahil sa trabaho ko. At nakuha ko ang trabaho ko, kasi bilib ang employer ko sa UP graduates. Meron din kasamang swerte syempre.

Aba, nag-monologue na talaga ako rito.

[ScareYouOften]

Sobrang dami na talagang mayaman sa UP ngayon. Di nakapagtataka na dati-dati palaging bakante mga parking areas sa UPLB, ngayon punuan na.

[curiouser]

Sa aking karanasan, mahirap kasi magsabi kung ano ang matalino at ano ang hindi. Maaaring mahusay ka sa isang subject, pero obobs ka naman sa iba. Gayunpaman, mahirap talaga statistically makapasok sa UP dahil sa dami ng applicants at konti lang ang slots. Kaya, kahit papaano, hindi mo masasabing hindi nasala ang mga nakapasok.

Pero, kahit gaano ka pa man katalino, ang magiging determinant ng tagumpay, hindi talino, kundi pagsisikap. Tama si Manny Villar eh (kahit na di ko siya binoto).

[ScareYouOften]

Napansin ko po sa iba kong schoolmates dito sa UPLB, hindi nila ino-observe ang correct usage ng "ng" at "nang" whenever they write. Don't you guys think it's embarassing?

Napakasimple kasi nun para magkamali pa... Sana macorrect naman...

Oo nga eh.Ako kasi sobrang conscious sa paggamit ko nyan.

Parang ganito: Wala nang pasok, instead of wala ng pasok.
Dun lang naman madalas nagkakamali, yung nang, ginagawang ng. Bihira or not at all, nagagawang nang yung dapat sana ay "ng"

[luna_cyro16]

Napansin ko po sa iba kong schoolmates dito sa UPLB, hindi nila ino-observe ang correct usage ng "ng" at "nang" whenever they write. Don't you guys think it's embarassing?

Seriously, I'm like a grammar "Nazi" and although hindi ako magaling sa pag-identify ng Filipino counterpart ng 8 parts of speech (except sa pangngalan at pandiwa), alam ko naman ang tamang sentence construction. I hate that even news writers mess this up. Kaya nga may editors di ba? Urgh

As for this topic, I would say that this is totally unfair to people like me and my brother who actually do good in school and worked hard to get those grades (in my case, including my degree) and who have parents who work hard not only to provide for us in the most basic sense but to ensure that we get the things that they didn't have the luxury of having when they were growing up.


#seriouslyiwantaUPpinnow

[honeyyow]

Don't make conclusions based on some people he or she may know because the few people who happens to have very sick attitudes don't necessarily represent the whole campus.

Kaunti lang ang mga kakilala niya or baka naman naiinggit siya sa mga klasmeyts niya kaya niya nasasabi iyan

[dashingdevonair]

It doesn't matter whether you're rich or you're poor. As long as you have brains, you are entitled to study in UP.

"Equal opportunities" doesn't mean favoring the poor over the rich, kaya nga "equal". Tanggapin na lang na may mga taong matalino na, mayaman pa.

[jielun]

In the first place, there's isn't even an accurate measure of intelligence. In terms of board exam rates? UP still has nearly perfect passing percentages across most professional programs.

But well, yeah, mas marami na ngang burgis sa UP ngayon.

[somuchwin]

Yes. Marami na ngang mayaman sa UP, but I don't think nababawasan ang utak. Marami pa rin matalino, IMO, lahat matalino. Olrayt!

[judge_ojo]

Some reasons:

1. Free market seems to favor those who have good genes: talented, intelligent, beautiful people. So, if you're intelligent, you'll probably succeed and eventually become rich in the future. Intelligence can be inherited genetically so your kids would probably become intelligent too. The result is, there are more smart rich kids than there are smart financially-troubled kids. (in accounting, "probable" means "more than 50% likely")

2. Quality primary education today are now hardly accessible to those who are financially troubled.

[alphaDUDE]

Dati pag pinag uusapan UP mga words na gingamit mahirap, aktibista, matalino, fraternities, cool, wild, open minded, etc... Nashock ako ng alaman ko sa kapatid ko kung ano na UP ngayon.

Same pa din daw naman facilities (pinapasyal ko kasi sya nung nag aaral pa ako dun) pati teachers mukhang pareho naman pero yung mga students daw puro mayayaman na.

Lahat ng classmates nya may laptop, notebok or iPad na may internet connection na dahil halos lahat ng student meron ng wireless plan. Tapos lahat daw ng classmates nya may 2 cellphone minsan 3 pa.

Bastos na daw sa mga tindera ang studyante. Dati kasi dinadala ko sya natutuwa sya dahil ka tsikahan ko mga tindera, pag wala kang barya ok lang na ibalik na lang next time.

Wala na halos laman mga dorms kasi naka condo na sa Katipunan o naka apartment sa kung saan.

May mga classmates daw sya na hindi marunong magtagalog, yung iba daw halatang nag papa sosyal lang kahit mahirap.

Mga discussions daw nila puro kababawan at walang kwenta. Topic of debate sa class is kung mas ok ba ang iPhone or Blackberry.

Minsang nag immersion daw or community visit may mga classmates daw sya na ayaw magpunta kasi di daw sanay sa ganung lugar. May sumama nga pero ayaw naman makipag usap sa mga mahirap. Nakakadiri daw mga mahirap.

Wala na daw uma attend ng ACLE. Bihira na na din uma attend sa klase.

Nabawasan na daw jeep kasi bihira na sumasakay.

Hinahanap daw nya yung mga kwento ko dati about UP kasi kahit katiting na bakas wala na daw.

Sabi nya namangha daw sya ng minsan magkaroon ng group paper at kailangan nila magpunta sa Ateneo, DLSU, UST, UA&P.

Inobserbahan daw nya mga interaction ng mga ka grupo nya at ng taga ibang school.

Ayaw na daw nya sa UP

UST na lang daw sya or Ateneo, lilipat daw sya.

Kasi daw yung mga taga UP parang cheap copycat lang ng mga taga La Salle na di nya naintindihan ang sense ng mga sagot. Mga taga UA&P walang sagot.

Feeling daw nya talaga mabobobo sya, magiging insensitive at palasak. Nahihiya daw sya ma level sa mga gaya ng kaklase nya na self-centered, walang paninindigan at pumapasok lang na parang mga highschool na walang pakialam

Nag drop nga pala sya.

Ayaw na mag aral. Wala daw kwenta sa UP.

College of Home Economics sya...

Limited lang naman ata yung mga views ng sibling mo. You're making generalizations of the entire university population based sa mga nakita lang ng sibling mo. To be honest, ang liit lang naman ng impact ng mga nangyayari sa School of Home Economics sa overall state ng UP.

The University of the Philippines has a broad range of personalities as one of its distinct characteristics as a representative ground for the entire nation--as such, even elitists could be found here. On that sense, baka nag-totroll ka lang sa thread na ito-- making a bold generalization that the entire university is as flawed as some of the people at the school of home economics.

Btw, sa isang point mo: dormer ako, so let me tell you hindi talaga empty yung dorms because many students are in apartments. Hindi talaga. Pinag-aawayan pa nga mga slots e. Haha.

Isa pa pala: Para sa akin, wala namang problema pag medyo dumami na yung mga mayaman sa UP ngayon-- hindi naman lahat sa kanila elitista. They competed with the rest of the best and the brightest through the UPCAT to get them to UP and got in. So what? Give it a rest. They deserve a spot as much as anyone else. Equality naman di ba? No preferences. Rich OR poor. Kung sino yung deserving lang yung papasukin.

So please, huwag ka na gumawa ng mga generalization mo. I think that's called a fallacy in economics-- assuming that something that is true for a part is true for the whole. UP is diverse. That's one of its alluring qualities. Sige, let's say kung magtransfer sibling mo sa Ateneo, I'd be pretty damned sure na most of the people your sibling meets there would be pretty well-off. So, aalis siya sa 'cheap imitation' ng mga elite schools to get to the real thing?(for such schools, I'm willing to bet would be filled with quite a number of elitists as well) Yep, seems pretty 'logical' for me. *sarcasm

Maybe your sibling's not right for UP after all for assuming that the school is like that after seeing just a small part of it. I don't blame your sibling though.

One more thing, see the story of the blind men and the elephant.

[somuchwin]

One more thing, see the story of the blind men and the elephant.

agrees 100%.

also dormer here, hindi madaling makapasok sa dorms. HAHA!

[imyourangel]

I agree, why make knowledge of current events a basis for one's IQ? Ako nga walang paki sa world news, yes gusto ko malaman ang happenings pero I'm not a debate type of person na dapat ganito ganiyan blah blah. So bobo na pala ako. Lol :P Alam ko hindi ako ganun katalino pero hindi ako bobo.

But then, may nakapagsabi na rin sakin na hindi na daw siya hanga sa UP kasi puro may pera na lang din daw mga pumapasok dun, parang pera na lang din ang labanan. -_-