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  1. #81
    ^ Acceptance to the University is based solely on the applicant's UPCAT performance called the UPG. All applicants are ranked from highest to lowest based on their upg's. At a certain point a line is drawn delineating the number of applicants the University could absorb given its resources (facilities, approved budget, personnel, etc etc). It is only when an applicant receives his admission letter that his economic stature comes into play...should he wish to apply for aid in the from of STFAP, etc etc.

    In no way prior to taking the UPCAT, the main determinant of admission to University, does one's socio-economic stature came into play. Admission to UP depends on how much gray matter there is between your ears...and should remain as such. Whether one can financially sustain your studies in UP is a different matter all together.
    Last edited by hacksaw; Aug 29, 2011 at 10:39 AM.

  2. #82
    Hay, wala naman kinalaman yung ikinapuputok ng butsi ni TS sa intelligence. Bitter lang si TS sa mga mayayaman. O baka hindi lang sya makaadapt sa kanila. Eitherway, if you can't adapt in the system, get out of it.

    Buh-bye!

  3. #83
    may naririnig na rin ako ng mga ganito about UP....mukhang nagkakabaligtad na ang mundo, sa la salle naman dumadami ang scholarships for financially incapable students at mga students from science high schools....

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by arkheM View Post
    Marami namang State U ang Pilipinas; hindi ba pwede dun nalang ang ibang can't afford na matatalino. Napaka-swapang naman ng UP kung solo nilang kunin ang lahat ng matatalino.
    mas swapang ang ateneo and other exclusive schools.. di pa graduate yung mga estudyante sa mga science high school ay inaalagaan na nila, kesyo free allowance pa.. ngayon if you are deserving students from public high school, anung pipiliin mo? sa UP na you need to pay tuition base sa income ng parents mo or sa exclusive schools na 100% free with allowance pa..

  5. #85
    Mayaman: yes; bobo: no idea.

  6. #86
    hows an outsider knows whats happening inside lol. vermin lah

  7. #87
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    I'm from UP.

    I'm not that bobo.

    I just fall anywhere among the so-called "8 intelligences."

    One must does not need to be good in demystefying difficult formulas or equations to be called intelligent.

    Im bad in playing the guitar but my sister is good at it but she's not studying in UP. Should I call her bobo because she's not from UP? Her ability to play the guitar makes her exceptional. That's a kind of intelligence she has.

    Not all UP students are good in Math or Science, but we are excelling in fields most people are not aware of.

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by welscua View Post
    mas swapang ang ateneo and other exclusive schools.. di pa graduate yung mga estudyante sa mga science high school ay inaalagaan na nila, kesyo free allowance pa.. ngayon if you are deserving students from public high school, anung pipiliin mo? sa UP na you need to pay tuition base sa income ng parents mo or sa exclusive schools na 100% free with allowance pa..
    I won't call that ka-swapangan. I would call that strategy, if the intention of the school (in your blind item article) is to accommodate the best of the very best students. That is why I always have been against the idea of UP Diliman enrolling more than 8 thousand undergrad students. Because, at some point, when a school has more students than it can actually absorbed (overpopulated student body), the academic standard and the so-called, "college experience" would consequently suffer. I'd rather that UP Diliman - being the country's NATIONAL university - would maintain a low undergrad student body of say, 6 thousand (all of whom are the best of the very best), and increase the number of grad, postgrad and professional students to about 12 thousand. As a NATIONAL university, research should be given a significant importance. This is just my personal opinion.

  9. #89
    I have to agree with TS' observation that many, if not most, students of UP nowadays are rich. Being the probinsyano that I am, I was shocked upon discovering that the people who I'm going to meet each day are exactly the opposite of those people I always meet when I was in the province: rich, snob, and sometimes arrogant. And to make matters worse, they are ultra-intelligent and talented.

    But that was in my freshman year for these days, I don't give the slightest care. My goal here is to learn and to eventually graduate. I don't need to socialize, I have my own friends anyway.

    I remember one guy who wrote a book saying that wealth is genetic, especially in this capitalist world we're living in. Say, if you have a talent or intelligence, you can tap that to produce wealth by rendering services worth some 5 or 6 figures a month (such as lawyering, or acting, or singing, etc). Thus, having this talent/intelligence will make one rich. And since these may very well be genetic, such will be inherited by children. In turn, these children will use their God-given skills to make themselves rich. And so on and so forth.

    UP has many rich students because they have intelligent parents, who made use of their intelligence to gain wealth. Thus, these rich kids inherited their parents' intelligence and that is why, now, the TS is complaining how things have changed in UP.

  10. #90
    In short, I'd say NO to TS' first query but say YES to his second.

  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by sexyntanned View Post
    In short, I'd say NO to TS' first query but say YES to his second.
    Just like I said, the TS is an AMPALAYA. Di kinaya ng utak nya ang UP kaya yun nagwala kasi tinamaan ang PRIDE.

    Pakinggan nyo lang yung mga taong bumabagsak sa math parati nilang sinasabi TEACHER FACTOR lang daw lahat. Kesyo daw may mga hindi marunong magturo. Di nila tinitingnan sarili nila may pagkukulang din sila.

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by johnjoseph13 View Post
    Just like I said, the TS is an AMPALAYA. Di kinaya ng utak nya ang UP kaya yun nagwala kasi tinamaan ang PRIDE.

    Pakinggan nyo lang yung mga taong bumabagsak sa math parati nilang sinasabi TEACHER FACTOR lang daw lahat. Kesyo daw may mga hindi marunong magturo. Di nila tinitingnan sarili nila may pagkukulang din sila.
    Wag ka naman masyadong condescending... i guess the TS' sibling was just not able to adapt to the UP crowd... Ibang-iba kasi ang mga taga-UP. di naman nakakailang pero hindi kasing-friendly ng mga taga-probinsya... medyo aloof at yung iba, mayabang...

  13. #93
    Yung prof ko sa MCB 1 dati na nagtuturo din sa La Salle. Aminado sya na mas madali sya magbigay ng exams sa mga taga-La Salle. Dapat daw kasi bini-baby sila. Kami pinapahirapan at tinotorture nang sobra... Laughtrip nung time na nagkukuwento sya sa Lab dati...



  14. #94
    I think hindi naman dapat ipagputok ng butsi 'yung sinabi ni TS. She's just asking for clarification, hindi ba? Whether she's an activist or not, o baka 'yung kapatid n'ya nga, 'wag na nating pakilaman.

    Hanggang ngayon, iniisip ko pa rin kung paano n'yo agad na-conclude na aktibista si TS. Parang mababaw kung sa post n'ya na ito lang ang basehan. Peace po. Love ko ang UP.

  15. #95
    Grabe naman. Paano naman naging b0b0 ang mga taga-UP ngayon? Actually marami na talagang sosyal sa UP, but what's wrong with that? Kung nakapasa sila sa pamantayan like everyone else, then they deserve to be there. Minsan those who complain about inequality are prejudiced themselves. So pag mayaman ka na nasa UP, nila-lang, as if may mali na dun.

  16. #96
    At saka ang UPCAT ngayon, in English pa rin ba sya or in Filipino na? Yan kasi ang argument ng iba noong panahon namin. Marami raw matatalino who do poorly sa UPCAT kasi in English daw. Pero di ka naman kailangan fluent. Kailangan lang nakakaintindi ka, and you can answer the test kung alam mo talaga ang sagot. And I swear, may Cum Laude sa batch ko na mali mali ang grammar. Kaya I really couldn't accept the argument noon (yup dati na yang issue na yan) na in English kasi ang UPCAT kaya maraming sosyal na hindi deserving na nakakapsok.

  17. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by jo24 View Post
    Grabe naman. Paano naman naging b0b0 ang mga taga-UP ngayon? Actually marami na talagang sosyal sa UP, but what's wrong with that? Kung nakapasa sila sa pamantayan like everyone else, then they deserve to be there. Minsan those who complain about inequality are prejudiced themselves. So pag mayaman ka na nasa UP, nila-lang, as if may mali na dun.
    Korek. Stereotyped agad na 'pa ang school, dating pang mahirap na puro mayaman na ang nag-aral, pinera lang. 'Wag ganun!

    Pero nakakahinayang din yung mga taong deserving sana na makapag-aral dun pero hirap sa buhay. Tsk.

  18. #98
    Define 'bobo' muna. Kung academic ang pinag-uusapan dito, hindi bobo ang mga taga-UP ngayon. Pero depende naman talaga sa depinisyon mo kung ano ang bobo at matalino.

  19. #99
    Off Topic
    Another problem na kinakaharap ng UP ngayon is yung admission policy for transferees. Kasi may mga hindi gaanong magagaling na naadmit. Karamihan is nakapasok dahil may kapit sa loob ng UP. I think kung hindi ito masusolusyunan kaagad, mas malaking problema ang kakaharapin ng UP.
    For me, UP should only cater the creme de la creme lalo na ngayon na may budget cut.

  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by katingera View Post
    Korek. Stereotyped agad na 'pa ang school, dating pang mahirap na puro mayaman na ang nag-aral, pinera lang. 'Wag ganun!

    Pero nakakahinayang din yung mga taong deserving sana na makapag-aral dun pero hirap sa buhay. Tsk.
    ironically, these stereotypes originated from UP.

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