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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by albertus magnus View Post
    Solar Powered Submarines and Aircraft Carriers. Anyone?
    Its a start though, we are going there. *note; its solar panels is made in the Philippines.

    World's largest, most advanced solar-powered boat in Ph
    MANILA, Philippines - The world’s largest and most advanced solar-powered boat, M/S Tûranor Planet Solar, has arrived in Manila to promote solar power

    It's a good thing DOE is not buying fully on Solar and Wind. They say it will further increase our power rates.
    Additional 12 centavos per kilowatt-hour to be added to power rates as a result of the feed-in tariff (FIT) to be precise, but it will ensure renewable energy development, making electricity generation cost go down minimum of 3-5 years, thats a lot better than what we currently have now which it has an uptrend statistics and it its not going down anytime soon. The FIT is a proven concept in some european countries which has the will to implement it, and other countries trying to adapt the same as a result. The alternative is carbon tax, you want carbon tax? FIT is not permanent, rates goes down in time as RE develops.

    If you want to invest, you must be 2 steps ahead, you have to be there when the grid parity arrives and not like a bandwagon crowd trying to join the party when its there, because when that time comes, everyone would be asking our expertise and importing our solar panel technology.

    1. Aside from electricity going down after 3-5 years,
    2. The benefits are local jobs industry as we manufacture solar panels.
    3. Export industry as one of our major exporting goods is solar panels.
    4. You will have a cleaner environment. Less expense on medical cost and government hospitals.
    5. We will be a leader, some asean countries will look at and not laughed at.
    6. Once it gets cheaper, we can power all isolated provinces jumpstarting their economy.
    7. Once it gets cheaper, households might be having their own independent power and sell excess to the grid. You my friend will sell electricity, and no longer buy it.

    Of course if you are proposing a solution, maybe nuclear? but that wont happen even if we want to. Even thorium is good also, but go convince people and politicians.
    Last edited by TuxTips; Aug 27, 2011 at 09:28 AM.

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    Manufacturing these solar panels is a big plus in the Philippines in terms of employment. Hope, we can export lots of these on many developed countries. By then, we can subsidize our poor folks to have the solar panels in their homes not against taxpayer's money I hope (with Noy's very alarming budget deficit on top of spending more on dole outs and less on education, jobcreation or income generation and in life-saving appropriation in the healthcare) but the manufacturer's shouldering the costs. Let the Developed Countries who are the biggest polluters of the planet subsidized their citizens. The best this Gov't can give to manufacturers will be tax free perks and bilateral trade agreements with customer nation states.

    If this can't be deployed without an intervention that would cost a taxpayer's money from a thirdworld country burdened with huge fiscal problems, this alternative...
    Quote Originally Posted by paenggoy View Post
    'It's Time To Kill The Electric Car, Drive A Stake Through Its Heart And Burn The Corpse"

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/2898...urn-the-corpse
    Any alternative that can't be deployed at relevant scale isn’t an alternative at all. It’s merely an expensive distraction for the masses, a bit like the circus in ancient Rome.

  3. #43
    The Philippine Solar Power Alliance (PSPA) is targeting a higher installation target of 269 megawatts (MW) for solar energy projects.

    The alliance is a multi-sectoral advocacy group supporting the development of solar power in the country.

    PSPA said the 269-MW of solar farms would translate to about $800 million or P33.6 billion worth of investments as against only $150 million with a 50-MW target as earlier approved by the Department of Energy (DOE).

    “We believe that this is in the best interest of the consumers and all stakeholders while furthering the cause of renewable energy in the country,” it said.


    http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx...ticleId=710481

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    Solyndra files for Chapter 11, fires 1,100 employees

    http://youtube.com/v/iqVQpgeVsYw

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    No can't do, they need to shift their manufacturing plant like to the Philippines to keep up with cheaper but quality manufacturing like what SunPower is doing. The only way for Solyndra to survive is if the U.S. can pass Feed in Tariff scheme where they will benefit on it and junk the Oil subsidies.

    Chapter11 is good also for a company to reform itself, like lay off 1000 employee legally.

  6. #46
    "Over Half of Germany's Renewable Energy Owned By Citizens & Farmers, Not Utility Companies"

    http://www.treehugger.com/renewable-...companies.html

  7. #47
    I'm still waiting for solar cellular phones to be commercially available here. ang tagal!

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by paenggoy View Post
    "Over Half of Germany's Renewable Energy Owned By Citizens & Farmers, Not Utility Companies"

    http://www.treehugger.com/renewable-...companies.html
    That's a treehugger website. Any news about RE is news to them without taking the other side of the coin. Now this is the other side of the Germany's solar coin:


    Debate heats up on German solar subsidies


    Germany has put in place generous government supports to promote renewable energy sources in recent years, with the solar energy sector as one of the main beneficiaries.

    Europe's largest economy is now a global leader in solar energy, with the number of photovoltaic systems in use countrywide increasing significantly despite its lack of sunshine compared to countries in the south.

    But solar energy is expensive, and German customers have had to pay billions of euros in subsidies to ensure the clean-power industry remains competitive.

    The cost of the subsidies has sparked a heated political debate within Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition government.

    The junior coalition partners, the Liberals (FDP), and members of the economic wing of Merkel's conservative CDU party have called for a change in the way the subsidies in the industry have operated to date, accusing Environment Minister Norbert Roettgen of failing in his brief.

    Roettgen is committed to a step-by-step reduction in solar subsidies, but this is not enough for Economy Minister Philipp Roesler, who feels the subsidy system needs to be overhauled to prevent costs from spiralling.

    The Renewable Energy Sources Act (EEG) has encouraged the production of wind or solar energy with subsidies paid to producers.

    Although the regulated price sinks year on year, rooftop solar power still commands a price of some 0.24 euros (0.31 dollars) per kilowatt hour.

    That is way above the price at which the solar energy is sold on the market, which amounts to around 0.5 euros. The energy supply companies pass on these differential costs to the consumer by means of a surcharge on the electricity price.

    The price of solar collectors has dropped in recent years thanks to the advent of cheap Chinese imports, making the solar energy business in Germany lucrative despite the sometimes unpredictable weather.

    According to Germany's Federal Network Agency, solar energy capacity increased by 7,500 megawatts in 2011 owing to the installation of new units. This equates to the capacity of five nuclear power plants -provided the sun actually shines.

    It is estimated that, including all the solar collectors installed in previous years, Germany now possesses a theoretical solar energy capacity of 20 gigawatts.

    However, the reality is that solar parks and roof units cover just 3 per cent of its overall electricity needs, even though their owners pocketed more than 8 billion euros in subsidies in 2011.

    This figure amounts to well over half of all subsidies handed out in Germany to promote renewable energy, which includes wind power, hydraulic power and biomass technology.

    The legally fixed feed-in electricity tariff maintaining the subsidies is guaranteed for 20 years under the EEG. This has led critics to warn of consumers having to pay soaring surcharges over the coming years.

    German consumers will have to pay 0.36 cents per kilowatt hour in clean-energy subsidies this year, a figure that is expected to increase.

    The North Rhine-Westphalia Institute for Economic Research (RWI) has estimated that subsidies for photovoltaic systems to be paid between 2000 and 2031 will total around 100 billion euros.

    Economy Minister Roesler, who is also vice-chancellor, believes there should only be subsidies for 1,000 megawatts of solar electricity per year.

    Meanwhile - although many German firms initially profited from the subventions - competition from cheaper Chinese imports has changed the situation. Two major German companies - Solon and Solar Millennium -recently filed for bankruptcy.

    http://www.timeslive.co.za/scitech/2...olar-subsidies

  9. #49
    Doesn't look like the other side of the coin to me but the same side, in the sense that what Germans got a subsidies they paid for as customers.

    And the Tree Hugger article got its info from Wind Works:

    http://www.wind-works.org/coopwind/C...icChamber.html

    In which case, the other side of the coin would be the EROEI on solar power.

    One more interesting point to consider is the formation of smart grids.

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Revelations View Post
    I'm still waiting for solar cellular phones to be commercially available here. ang tagal!
    siguro magiging hot yan. =)

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by paenggoy View Post
    Doesn't look like the other side of the coin to me but the same side, in the sense that what Germans got a subsidies they paid for as customers.

    And the Tree Hugger article got its info from Wind Works:

    http://www.wind-works.org/coopwind/C...icChamber.html

    In which case, the other side of the coin would be the EROEI on solar power.

    One more interesting point to consider is the formation of smart grids.

    It is the other side of the coin IMO because the article from Tree Hugger just stated the positives of the German solar energy while the article I posted gives its downside which is the tremendous subsidy needed.

    Don't get me wrong I'm in no way against solar enery but for me the technology needs to advance more to make it economically viable.

    I'm still vying for fusion technology as the future of our energy source.

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by xkcd View Post
    It is the other side of the coin IMO because the article from Tree Hugger just stated the positives of the German solar energy while the article I posted gives its downside which is the tremendous subsidy needed.

    Don't get me wrong I'm in no way against solar enery but for me the technology needs to advance more to make it economically viable.

    I'm still vying for fusion technology as the future of our energy source.
    As I pointed out, the downside's prob. not the subsidies because according to the same article they are also taxed.

    If there's any downside, it's EROEI. See the peak oil thread for details.

    Re: fusion technology, I'd rather look at what is feasible.

  13. #53
    keep posting the updates here. sana ma-develop na yung solar energy.

  14. #54
    "Thermosolar power station in Spain works at night"

    http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-03-...ain-night.html

  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Revelations View Post
    I'm still waiting for solar cellular phones to be commercially available here. ang tagal!
    Quote Originally Posted by pillowcase View Post
    siguro magiging hot yan. =)
    Last Christmas I gave away about a dozen solar cellphone chargers from CDR-King as gifts. Wala namang akong nakuhang grateful feedback from any of them.

  16. #56
    Major problem with the industry in Germany and one large firm in the U.S.

  17. #57
    "Bankruptcies Have German Solar on the Ropes"

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/...825490,00.html

  18. #58
    "Americans overwhelmingly believe solar energy is important"

    http://www.examiner.com/solar-energy...y-is-important

    "What have we learned about cheap energy?"

    http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/ene...t-cheap-energy

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    Can you give me a link for solar panel providers in Philippines?

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