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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by yehehay View Post
    La Consolacion College likes it hot
    Jeannette Andrade Philippine Daily Inquirer
    03/19/2011



    WHILE most Filipinos would often complain against the tropical heat, the La Consolacion College Manila (LCCM) community in Manila does not mind if the weather is sizzling hot.

    Thanks to a solar-powered centralized air-conditioning system, the school has become the first institution in southeast Asia to have a solar cooling system.

    La Consolacion College teamed up with Distributed Control Intelligence (DCI) of South Korea to equip the four-story St. Augustine Building with the solar-powered cooling system that is projected to cut the building’s electric power consumption by 70 to 85 percent.


    source: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquire...e-likes-it-hot

    I welcome solar energy if it will cut MERALCO consumption costs by as must as 70% per home. Imagine if every home in the metro has one installed, MERALCO is sure to cry out in tears for losing 70% of its income.

  2. #22
    are you serious Solar power is the way to go the current technology makes renewable energy like Solar power costly,unreliable and limited.. pangarap pa talaga ang mga ito

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by BatangMannitol View Post
    are you serious Solar power is the way to go the current technology makes renewable energy like Solar power costly,unreliable and limited.. pangarap pa talaga ang mga ito
    lahat ng bagong technology ay expensive,costly,unreliable sa umpisa! and besides, sa start lang yan na kumbaga supplemental lang muna,kapag meron ng new,improve,innovation magiging reliable na rin,gusto mo bang bumalik tayo sa kandila kung maubos na ang fossil fuel? look in to the future barok! be optimistic!

  4. #24
    Me thinks that politicians with heavy investment in power companies will put a big tax on solar panels just to make it expensive.

    anyway

    http://www.trustyguides.com/solar-panels2.html

    a small, single-PV-panel systems that produce about 75 watts can cost about $900 installed, or $12 per watt. A 2-kilowatt (1 kilowatt=1,000 watts) system that meets most energy needs of an extremely energy-efficient home can cost $16,000-$20,000 installed, or $8-$10 per watt. A 5-kilowatt system that completely meets the energy needs of many conventional homes can cost $30,000-$40,000 installed, or $6-$8 per watt.
    Summary

    75 watts = $900 (Php 36,900) - equivalent to 1 small light bulb
    2,000 watts = $16,000 to $20,000 (Php 820,000) ECO house (less equipment meaning walang computers etc, just lights)
    50,000 = $30,000 to $40,000 (Php 1,640,000) average house

    So if you want a certain city to have a solar power plant, to power about 1,000 homes

    1,000 * 1,640,000 = 1,640,000,000

    1.6 billion agad,

    and please remember that watt output of solar cells degrade overtime. Some factories create solar cells that can last 5 years, others 20 years but typically mas mahal yung longer lasting.

    There are numerous factors that make the solar cells expensive

    1. Manufacturing process especially the silicon ingot type solar cell is extremely expensive
    2. Installation as well as land area needed can increase costs
    3. Current laws in countries manufacturing solar cells tax companies creating the solar cells

  5. #25
    Geothermal energy is the way to go.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by imanhorn View Post
    Me thinks that politicians with heavy investment in power companies will put a big tax on solar panels just to make it expensive.

    anyway

    http://www.trustyguides.com/solar-panels2.html



    Summary

    75 watts = $900 (Php 36,900) - equivalent to 1 small light bulb
    2,000 watts = $16,000 to $20,000 (Php 820,000) ECO house (less equipment meaning walang computers etc, just lights)
    50,000 = $30,000 to $40,000 (Php 1,640,000) average house

    So if you want a certain city to have a solar power plant, to power about 1,000 homes

    1,000 * 1,640,000 = 1,640,000,000

    1.6 billion agad,

    and please remember that watt output of solar cells degrade overtime. Some factories create solar cells that can last 5 years, others 20 years but typically mas mahal yung longer lasting.

    There are numerous factors that make the solar cells expensive

    1. Manufacturing process especially the silicon ingot type solar cell is extremely expensive
    2. Installation as well as land area needed can increase costs
    3. Current laws in countries manufacturing solar cells tax companies creating the solar cells
    pero sa long term mas makaka save ka at makaka tulong ka pa sa environment.

  7. #27
    Improved nuclear power plants.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by hehefluffymayumi View Post
    Improved nuclear power plants.
    basta wag lang sa aming region ilagay!

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by dugongaso View Post
    pero sa long term mas makaka save ka at makaka tulong ka pa sa environment.
    That depends, dahil sa long term masisira ng mabilis ang solar plates. tapos gastos na naman ulit.

  10. #30
    [QUOTE=imanhorn;57876065]That depends, dahil sa long term masisira ng mabilis ang solar plates. tapos gastos na naman ulit.[/QUOT depende! vague,puedeng good or bad?

  11. #31
    How about the high rise buildings in MM? Are they suitable for solar plates? If yes, why not.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by mixeein View Post
    How about the high rise buildings in MM? Are they suitable for solar plates? If yes, why not.
    and those ugly billboards? there are millions of them in metro manila!

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by hehefluffymayumi View Post
    Improved nuclear power plants.
    I'm a firm believer of nuclear plants too, but not in the Philippines. No offense but I don't have any confidence in the abilitiy of pinoys when a meltdown happens. If a meltdown happens here, it will be epic.

    Philippines has a lot of volcanos. Geothermal energy is the way to go.
    Last edited by Comfy; Aug 9, 2011 at 09:06 PM.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by dugongaso View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imanhorn View Post
    That depends, dahil sa long term masisira ng mabilis ang solar plates. tapos gastos na naman ulit.
    depende! vague,puedeng good or bad?
    let me state it in full... Depende kung may pera pa tayo mag tayo ng fresh Solar plates kung mag degrade ang lumang plates.

    Prices of solar plates are rising like I said, especially the silicon ingots plates because silicon ingots are difficult to make, can be rare in and is getting exhausted.

    I'm for Solar energy that is until we find a way to harness solar energy cheaply.

  15. #35

  16. #36
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    Japan Shifting to Solar Power



    The Sunrise Plan

    Prime Minister Naoto Kan is considering a plan to require all new buildings in Japan to install solar paneling by 2030. The plan, which would cover all new homes and commercial buildings, is expected to be announced at the end of the week at the two-day G8 summit in France

    Nuclear power isn't exactly popular right now in Japan, so the government is looking at other sources of power to secure the country's future energy needs. A new initiative called the "Sunrise Plan", which isn't yet in force but should be announced this week at the G8 in France, could help the land of the rising sun turn toward solar energy for more of its electricity. source
    This is coming from a country very dependent on nuclear power and experienced nuclear problem, so are we waiting for us to have nuclear power or just beat them to the punch?

    One of philippines major export goods is solar panel, if we would supply japan with solar panel it would generate a very large industry our country would benefit jobs gdp etc.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by imanhorn View Post
    let me state it in full... Depende kung may pera pa tayo mag tayo ng fresh Solar plates kung mag degrade ang lumang plates.

    Prices of solar plates are rising like I said, especially the silicon ingots plates because silicon ingots are difficult to make, can be rare in and is getting exhausted.

    I'm for Solar energy that is until we find a way to harness solar energy cheaply.
    Solar Panels are already very cheap nowadays due to this technology that is fast replacing the silicon solid-state photovoltaics:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dye-sensitized_solar_cells

    It can even be home made. All you need are glass sheets, a silk screen set, and a special solution called "photovoltaic paint". What makes the solar cell system still expensive are the batteries. (And probably the glass sheets too unless you can easily afford to do away with your GI sheet roof and replace it all with glass)

    NiMH batteries are great for cars and hooking them up to the electric grid is a good way of storing photovoltaic energy. But you still need considerably more batteries installed at home so that the energy keeps on getting stored while you're away driving your electric car.

    The problem is; even if NiMH is considerably cheaper than the Li-ion battery, it night not be cheap enough for the middle-income households to invest in.

  18. #38
    I'm still waiting for cold fusion to break through.

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    Solar Powered Submarines and Aircraft Carriers. Anyone?

    Baka ang yellow submarine ni NOY ay solar powered na. Ahe he!

    Nuclear powered Aircraft carriers and Submarines only requres refuelling after 25 years.

    It's a good thing DOE is not buying fully on Solar and Wind. They say it will further increase our power rates.

    Don't get me wrong, I support Renewables especially my faves, Geothermal and Hydroelectric. In the Philippine setting, the cheapest electricity is provided by Hydroelectric.

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by TuxTips View Post

    The Sunrise Plan


    This is coming from a country very dependent on nuclear power and experienced nuclear problem, so are we waiting for us to have nuclear power or just beat them to the punch?

    One of philippines major export goods is solar panel, if we would supply japan with solar panel it would generate a very large industry our country would benefit jobs gdp etc.


    This is great. I think Israel has been doing this for so many years now. It's what I have in mind. Every home can have a solar panel roofing that can take care part ofits electricity needs. Not a power grid.

    Too bad, it's for export to Japan. Wish they can lower the cost for local consumption.
    Last edited by av_phile; Aug 27, 2011 at 06:36 AM.

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