Now that Slaughter has played in the PBA...

[skagway]

^^is this a real issue or are you just stirring the hornet's nest?

[vagged]

^^is this a real issue or are you just stirring the hornet's nest?

I dont know if its an issue. Just stating whats in the rule book...knowing ateneo, im sure they got it covered. Ask your school board rep.

[lovejones]

I dont know if its an issue. Just stating whats in the rule book...knowing ateneo, im sure they got it covered. Ask your school board rep.

Well, since you're the affected party, shouldn't it be you asking your board rep about this? Like what you said, we've already got it covered.

On a related note, I'm really impressed at the transformation of Greg Slaughter in the 3 or so months that Norman Black has been working with him.

From EJ Feihl moves at first to a great midrange game and an ever developing low post game that includes dependable hook shots with both hands he displayed in the latter part of the Fil-Oil, I can understand why one thread in Archerpride has become a whiner's paradise.

[ColSanders]

Greg Slaughter vs Kerby Raymundo

Nag-tiptoe lang si Slaughter!

[FredGreenTomato]

Unlike Alrech Ramos and JR Cawaling, Greg Slaughter was still serving residency at ADMU when he played for Smart Gilas and was never cleared by the the Uaap board because Ateneo failed to ask for a clearance from them. The Rules clearly state that a player serving residency shall not play for any other league. But, im sure the Ateneo is well aware of that rule.

this has already been answered by the powers that be in ap.com

PERMISSION TO PLAY OUTSIDE THE UAAP
No athlete and/or team of any UAAP Member University may play for any other entity for the duration of the UAAP tournament in which such athlete/team is/are participating except;

Exhibition Games
Barangay Level Tournament
DECS – CHED Organized competitions
National Team Selections
Tournament for ranking purposes provided he/she represents his/her UAAP Member University or him/herself
AFP
NSA organized tournament
Alumni organized tournaments.

Commercial Leagues except PBL
Provided, however, that such tournament is not in conflict with the UAAP schedules. In such case, priority shall always be given to the UAAP. A prior written request for participation in such tournament must be submitted to the Board for its approval.

player only needs a written request if participating in a commercial league.

[Badjie]

I'd hardly call a guy who's part of the national program and the top 10% of ACET passers a "mercenary."

Brian Ilad, on the other hand...

The real acet? Or the watered down acet with matching penciled-in answers. Ang gagawin na lang ng player is to trace the answer.

Siguro naman kaya gawin ng player yun. Kung kaya ni Buenafe, kaya ng lahat.

As in lahat.

[Badjie]

He had 7 shot blocks. Not bad for someone who's still feeling his way

I can just imagine what would happen to him once Norman Black trains him full time.

Sarap maging Atenista!

Sarap nga maging Atenista.

Ask Ryan and Art.

[lovejones]

masarap ang atenista haha

[markfroilan]

Im sorry to say this but the way i see it, as long as slaughter dons the blue&white jersey ateneo can go as far as 7 basketball championship, i hope im mistaken.

[strandedstranger]

Im sorry to say this but the way i see it, as long as slaughter dons the blue&white jersey ateneo can go as far as 7 basketball championship, i hope im mistaken.

Due to the no more than 25 years old rule, Slaughter can only play for two more years: this and the next.

This and the next season is pretty much set and what worries Ateneo faithfuls would be the graduation of the Salva (not anymore Buenafe since he won't don the Blue and White this year) recruitment class. If there's anything good to Buenafe's sitting this year out is that he can still lead the Blue Eagles to three more titles after this season.

[Mateen Cleaves]

this has already been answered by the powers that be in ap.com

PERMISSION TO PLAY OUTSIDE THE UAAP
No athlete and/or team of any UAAP Member University may play for any other entity for the duration of the UAAP tournament in which such athlete/team is/are participating except;

Exhibition Games
Barangay Level Tournament
DECS – CHED Organized competitions
National Team Selections
Tournament for ranking purposes provided he/she represents his/her UAAP Member University or him/herself
AFP
NSA organized tournament
Alumni organized tournaments.

Commercial Leagues except PBL
Provided, however, that such tournament is not in conflict with the UAAP schedules. In such case, priority shall always be given to the UAAP. A prior written request for participation in such tournament must be submitted to the Board for its approval.

player only needs a written request if participating in a commercial league.

This rule applies to players who are already eligible, and refers to games in other leagues while the UAAP season is ongoing.

What is the rule with players who are still under residency, like Slaughter?

[strandedstranger]

Team Glory Be, home to Ateneans doing residency, plays in other basketball leagues while the UAAP season is on-going. You can't just stagnate talent, can you?

[FredGreenTomato]

@strandedstranger:

yes because of this rule:

An athlete who is in the process of establishing residency requirements in the UAAP shall not play for another team in any league; otherwise, an additional one (1) year residency shall be required. Such athlete may play for his/her own university outside the UAAP.

@Mateen Cleaves: interesting point. the rules are vague and there is no mention of exceptions regarding this matter. so the board can very well vote against slaughter playing if they interpret it this way.

if interpreted this way, it will also mean that no player undergoing residency can play for the national team since it is a team in another league... unless they add a year of residency.

so if a filipino player who studied abroad is doing two years residency, he would sit out three years (because of the additional year) if he wishes to play for our national team.

that is IF the rule is interpreted that way.

[technologica]

Sus! .......

[-alucard-]

nu (baculi) to ateneo (palou): quid pro quo.

AH! AH! AH! AH! AH!

[strandedstranger]

I think more than the greenies it's the bullies (yeah the bulldogs) who are using the Slaughter as a leverage to make Parks eligible. I say let Parks play now that's minus one year of eligibility with four to go. I don't think his present stint will affect Ateneo's run towards the four-peat crown that much.

Lastly, if FEU asked for a clearance for the likes of Aldrech Ramos then I'm sure Ateneo would have done the same.

[-alucard-]

I think more than the greenies it's the bullies (yeah the bulldogs) who are using the Slaughter as a leverage to make Parks eligible. I say let Parks play now that's minus one year of eligibility with four to go. I don't think his present stint will affect Ateneo's run towards the four-peat crown that much.

si palou nga daw ang nagspearhead ng query regarding parks' eligibility. kaya malamang compromise agreement na lang. quid pro quo.

Lastly, if FEU asked for a clearance for the likes of Aldrech Ramos then I'm sure Ateneo would have done the same.

sure talaga? promise? same peeps ba nagawa ng request for both feu and ateneo? just asking.

AH! AH! AH! AH! AH!

[strandedstranger]

^It's just that I trust the institution I'm in than any other institutions out there. I doubt that there was an oversight on this matter.

[Chan Ho Nam]

Question lang. Applicable ba kay Slaughter yung "paghingi ng approval from the board" to play outside UAAP?

The rule states:

-An athlete who is in the process of establishing residency requirements in the UAAP shall not play for another team in any league; otherwise, an additional one (1) year residency shall be required. Such athlete may play for his/her own university outside the UAAP.

Dito tingin ko ay may tulog si Slaughter. Yung SG ay direct violation ng rule na ito because Slaughter can only play for Ateneo while doing residency.

Pero dito, hindi ako sure kung applicable kay Slaughter.

-PERMISSION TO PLAY OUTSIDE THE UAAP
No athlete and/or team of any UAAP Member University may play for any other entity for the duration of the UAAP tournament in which such athlete/team is/are participating except;

(1) Exhibition Games
(2) Barangay Level Tournament
(3) DECS – CHED Organized competitions
(4) National Team Selections
(5) Tournament for ranking purposes provided he/she represents his/her UAAP Member University or him/herself
(6) AFP
(7) NSA organized tournament
(8) Alumni organized tournaments.
(9) Commercial Leagues except PBL
Provided, however, that such tournament is not in conflict with the UAAP schedules. In such case, priority shall always be given to the UAAP. A prior written request for participation in such tournament must be submitted to the Board for its approval.

Sabi kasi for the duration of UAAP. Yung PBA stint ay UAAP off-season nangyari. Therefore, parang hindi applicable ito.

[strandedstranger]

-PERMISSION TO PLAY OUTSIDE THE UAAP
No athlete and/or team of any UAAP Member University may play for any other entity for the duration of the UAAP tournament in which such athlete/team is/are participating except;

I think that "for the duration" part meant that if an athlete is allowed to play for another team in another league during the off-season. What I am most worried about is the part that says "is/are participating".

Does "is/are participating" inclusive of players doing residency? Ateneo supporters should hope that it is inclusive of players doing residency?

But that doesn't end there. Since Greg Slaughter is a member of SMART-Gilas then he doesn't qualify for the National Selection provision. Now, how do we exactly interpret Smart Gilas' stint as an invited team in the PBA?