New facilities, programs, buildings in UP

[starchaser]

Kelan kaya magkakaroon ng matinong gusali ang STAT? Grabe, ang lalaki ng sweldo ng mga graduates jan e.

Ang sabi, may plan na raw para sa bagong building.

[steveharwell]

Go UPd! It's nice to see that our facilities are improving - finally.

OffT: I personally do not get kung bakit against commercialization ang ibang mga students. It's a way of improving our facilities and, ultimately, our education. Mawawala ba ang essence ng UP Diliman kung tayo'y macommercialize? Also, observation lang: Karamihan ng mga against commercialization ay taga-Arts na puro lumot ang mga building. )

[Pex_Pex]

Go UPd! It's nice to see that our facilities are improving - finally.

OffT: I personally do not get kung bakit against commercialization ang ibang mga students. It's a way of improving our facilities and, ultimately, our education. Mawawala ba ang essence ng UP Diliman kung tayo'y macommercialize? Also, observation lang: Karamihan ng mga against commercialization ay taga-Arts na puro lumot ang mga building. )

Actually di sila galit sa mga bagong building, galit sila dun sa pangengeelam ng Ayala sa pag-unlad ng UP, ginagamit kasi tayo ng Ayala para pagkakitaan at sa paggamit nila satin, unti-unting nawawalang ng lupa at kasagraduhan ang UP

eg. UP-Ayala Technohub (Para daw sa use ng UP, ngayon tayo na ang nagagamit)

[p1215]

Not really, the National Science Complex funding was obtained through the concerted effort of the basic science community in the Philippines - not solely through the efforts of UP Diliman. Heads of scientific organizations, deans and administrators of science and/or engineering of the major universities, as well as allies in congress were involved. Other schools are turning yellow, green, and blue not because of envy but because of the satisfaction that comes with the full knowledge that they helped ensure that there will be a National Science Complex that will in the end benefit everyone.

the national science complex --- wow, other schools im sure are turning green, yellow, blue --- with envy. sobrang ganda.

[pedropinduko]

Ilagay na rin sa UP ang National Sports Complex!!!

Approve dapat ang Lasalle dun para mabili na nila ang Rizal Sports Complex nang lumaki naman ang land area nila. Hehehe.

[fortherecord]

Ilagay na rin sa UP ang National Sports Complex!!!

Approve dapat ang Lasalle dun para mabili na nila ang Rizal Sports Complex nang lumaki naman ang land area nila. Hehehe.

GMA vetoed the P500-million allotment for the UP Sports Complex included in the 2010 UP GAA. Her reason: the ballooning budget deficit. Sayang talaga.

UP 2010 GAA: http://www.dbm.gov.ph/GAA2010/SUCS/A/A.8.pdf

wala bang national arts/humanities complex? this time clustered ang CAL, CSSP, MASSCOM and LAW?

Agree. The university's arts and humanities cluster needs to come up with plan highlighting the importance of the said field to national development. Para naman makakuha sila ng state funding commitment gaya nang nakuha ng science and technology cluster: P1.7 billion - National Science Complex and P3 billion - Engineering Research for Development and Technology, which includes the National Engineering Complex.

[fortherecord]

Ang sabi, may plan na raw para sa bagong building.

Unfortunately, the P120-million funding proposal for the new Stat building was shelved due to last year's UP budget cut.
(See page 16, table C: http://officeofthesecretary.webs.com...zette_2010.pdf)

[dashingdevonair]

I believe the college of law is opening a new Law Quadrangle soon. Gagawa daw ng bagong library, and of course the UP Professional Schools in Taguig.

[fortherecord]

EEEI Annex Building Final Capping







Photos from Dean Au Matias' FB page

@Dashingdevonair, saan naman daw itatayo 'yang Law Quadrangle?

[arkheM]

Siguradohin lang nila na mapapangalagaan at ma-maintain ng maayos ang mga bagong buildings na yan ha, kasi ang daming buildings sa UPd na nabobolok na kasi kulang sa maintenance.

[arkheM]

Kelan kaya magkakaroon ng matinong gusali ang STAT? Grabe, ang lalaki ng sweldo ng mga graduates jan e.

Stats doesn't need a new building. UPd doesn't need to build more buildings. It already has too many at the moment. What UPd needs is to maintain, renovate and upgrade the existing physical structures and preserve its wide open-air spaces. That's what sets UPd apart from other schools in the country -- the American-type physical set-up of the campus where there's plenty of wide open spaces for the students to relax and enjoy after class.

[akosiblink]

sana pati yung gym, madevelop. gusto ko yung idea ng UP Sports Center or Complex.

[pedropinduko]

Stats doesn't need a new building. UPd doesn't need to build more buildings. It already has too many at the moment. What UPd needs is to maintain, renovate and upgrade the existing physical structures and preserve its wide open-air spaces. That's what sets UPd apart from other schools in the country -- the American-type physical set-up of the campus where there's plenty of wide open spaces for the students to relax and enjoy after class.

Ok. Sabi mo e. Pero in my opinion, nung huling punta ko jan after silang palayasin sa CBA, ang pangit ng lugar na nilipatan nila at ang dungis pa. Sana pagandahin naman yan para maging conducive sa learning. Hehehe.

[flipperoo]

hindi na rin ata puntahin ang mga wide open spaces sa campus. kahapon pumunta ako sa heartbreak hill walang mga tao, dati merong mangilan ngilan.

Stat needs a building, pero parang maayos naman yung nilipatan nilang dating CSWCD.... yung engg matapos lang ang lahat ng buildings niya masaya na. haha

[arkheM]

Ok. Sabi mo e. Pero in my opinion, nung huling punta ko jan after silang palayasin sa CBA, ang pangit ng lugar na nilipatan nila at ang dungis pa. Sana pagandahin naman yan para maging conducive sa learning. Hehehe.

Stats can actually share spaces with Maths, and together, they can maintain their building or facilities in a way that CSSP, CAL, CMC and CoE do.

The most common problem of UPd wrt infrastructures is the maintenance aspect. UPd is already home to more than 40 or so school buildings. Many of those buildings can be said to be some of the finest structures built on a school ground -- both aesthetically and functionally -- yet very little is spent on maintaining them to the point that they become almost very ordinary now.

Take Gonzales Hall (UPd Main Library building) as an example. It's an iconic structure built over 40 years ago. It has an architectural design that would rival those post-modernization buildings that scattered around Harvard campus in Cambridge, MA. Yet when you go inside the building, you can see that its low maintenance has taken a toll on its grandeur... that it now resembles more of another dilapidated city hall in the province rather than a majestic library like Baker Hall of Harvard.

Then when you have a large school area, you would consequently have a large land to maintain. When you scatter the buildings in long distances within the huge campus perimeter, you'd have to develop the access to the new buildings, including all the areas where you'd pass through to get to the buildings. That means a very high maintenance cost for the landscaping too, which I think is essential when you have nice, well-budgeted edifices that erected on it. So, in short, the more buildings the school has, the more money is needed for maintenance. Given UP's meager budget allocation for maintenance, it won't be far from now that these "newer" buildings would wear out and become just another old, ill-maintained, dirty UPd building.

[jakeyr]

Arkhem
Good point raised.
But i think that UP may be preparing itself for increasing the number of students (undergrad and postgrad) it can accomodate. Plus the research work it intends to focus on, hence the new buildings.
Of course it should also prepare itself for the task of maintaining both the new and old buildings.

[johnjoseph13]

Sana bago maghangad ng magaganda at well-maintained buildings, dapat handa rin kayo magbayad ng tuition nyo. Dapat taasan ng UP ang tuition say 5000 per unit ng sa ganun may panggastos ito ng maintenance. Willing ba kayo?

Syempre, may magngangawngaw na naman sa kalye. Mga palengkera!

[arkheM]

Arkhem
Good point raised.
But i think that UP may be preparing itself for increasing the number of students (undergrad and postgrad) it can accomodate. Plus the research work it intends to focus on, hence the new buildings.
Of course it should also prepare itself for the task of maintaining both the new and old buildings.

If that is true, then that is a very sad news indeed. UPd should not increase the undergrad student population -- it already has too many than it can actually absorb even with the additional infrastructure development. So, if there is a need for UPd to change the number of its undergrad students, it should be to decrease it because UPd has to maintain a very good level of faculty-to-student ratio to maintain the high level of teaching standard. Ideally, a 1:6 faculty-to-student ratio is the standard practice at some of the finest schools abroad.

These are the figures for undergrad enrollment I got from some of the finest universities abroad:

Harvard - 7,181 total (6,655 College, 526 extension)
Stanford - 6,878
Yale - 5,275
Princeton - 5,113
MIT - 4,232
Caltech - 967


Even the University of Chicago (CofC), from which UPd was patterned, has an undergrad student population of only 5,134. And, take note that these are schools with far more annual operating budget than UPd. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Chicago




Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_University
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_University
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_University
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton_university
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caltech

[arkheM]

Sana bago maghangad ng magaganda at well-maintained buildings, dapat handa rin kayo magbayad ng tuition nyo. Dapat taasan ng UP ang tuition say 5000 per unit ng sa ganun may panggastos ito ng maintenance. Willing ba kayo?

I am for TFI. However, your proposal of a P5k per unit increase is just too much especially when this is done abruptly. It will get there eventually (I hope), but at the moment, a P2k per unit for the sons and daughters of millionaires is the more acceptable rate.

[fortherecord]

If that is true, then that is a very sad news indeed. UPd should not increase the undergrad student population -- it already has too many than it can actually absorb even with the additional infrastructure development. So, if there is a need for UPd to change the number of its undergrad students, it should be to decrease it because UPd has to maintain a very good level of faculty-to-student ratio to maintain the high level of teaching standard. Ideally, a 1:6 faculty-to-student ratio is the standard practice at some of the finest schools abroad.

These are the figures for undergrad enrollment I got from some of the finest universities abroad:

Harvard - 7,181 total (6,655 College, 526 extension)
Stanford - 6,878
Yale - 5,275
Princeton - 5,113
MIT - 4,232
Caltech - 967


Even the University of Chicago (CofC), from which UPd was patterned, has an undergrad student population of only 5,134. And, take note that these are schools with far more annual operating budget than UPd. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Chicago




Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_University
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_University
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_University
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton_university
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caltech

I favor the policy of increasing UP's student population. Diliman's annual human capital contribution of about 4,000 graduates (undergrad and grad degree holders) are not enough, given the complex challenges facing our country. The Philippine population is also growing rapidly, hence the need for more quality professionals, scientists, artists, educators,etc.

IMHO, any future increase in student population will be biased towards the engineering and science cluster and the graduate programs, since it is one of UP's mandates to serve as a graduate university. Ngayon pa lang, Eng'g has more than 5,000 students and still growing; the College of Science has more than 2k students, AFAIK.