BOXING Fight Night thread

[CaptainCharisma]

I don't know where to discuss boxing in general other than the established Pacquiao threads, so here, let's talk about the other notable fighters and fights, hoping for better fights/fightcards and more world titles for our Pinoy pugilists in 2011

on the calendar:

2011

January 22
The Greenbrier, White Sulphur Springs, West Virginia
Evander Holyfield vs. Sherman Williams (heavyweight)

HBO
January 29
Silverdome, Pontiac, Michigan
Devon Alexander vs. Timothy Bradley Jr. (WBC/WBO junior welterweight unification)

HBO
February 19
Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas, Nevada
Fernando Montiel vs. Nonito Donaire (WBO/WBC bantamweight championship)
Mike Jones vs. Jesus Soto-Karass (welterweight)

March 5
Koncerthuset, Copenhagen, Denmark
Evander Holyfield vs. Brian Nielsen (heavyweight)

PPV
May 7
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada
Manny Pacquiao vs. Shane Mosley (WBO welterweight championship)

[CaptainCharisma]

WBC 2010 award winners

Boxer of the Decade: Manny Pacquiao
Fighter of the Year: Sergio “Maravilla” Martinez
Fight of the Year: Jean Pascal vs. Bernard Hopkins
Knockout of the Year: Sergio Martinez vs. Paul Williams
Exemplary World Champion of the year: Vitali Klitschko
Most Dramatic Fight of the Year: Fernando Montiel vs. Hozumi Hasegawa
Hope and Revelation of the Year: Tie between Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and Saul “Canelo” Alvarez

[tito423]

Holyfield may wanna keep fighting until he's dead.

[CaptainCharisma]

^ yeah good thing is with his cut, his next fight likely won't push through

here's a "big one" coming up

[HBKMensa]

Looking forward to Manny bout - he is the best of the decade!!!

http://www.mannypacquaio.net

[kimo1110]

I don't know where to discuss boxing in general other than the established Pacquiao threads, so here, let's talk about the other notable fighters and fights, hoping for better fights/fightcards and more world titles for our Pinoy pugilists in 2011

on the calendar:

2011

January 22
The Greenbrier, White Sulphur Springs, West Virginia
Evander Holyfield vs. Sherman Williams (heavyweight)

HBO
January 29
Silverdome, Pontiac, Michigan
Devon Alexander vs. Timothy Bradley Jr. (WBC/WBO junior welterweight unification)

HBO
February 19
Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas, Nevada
Fernando Montiel vs. Nonito Donaire (WBO/WBC bantamweight championship)
Mike Jones vs. Jesus Soto-Karass (welterweight)

March 5
Koncerthuset, Copenhagen, Denmark
Evander Holyfield vs. Brian Nielsen (heavyweight)

PPV
May 7
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada
Manny Pacquiao vs. Shane Mosley (WBO welterweight championship)

A revenge from Karass would more likely to be interesting than the Holyfield fight. And how about the Klitchko-Adamek fight? That will be interesting if Adamek really fits for HW div.

Can anyone tell me when will be the Dawson-Pascal 2 happen?

[bucktoof]

No way Hopkins-Pascal is fight of the year. Pascal ran for most of the fight and Hopkins is a boring fighter in general.

Fight of the year is either Soto-Antillon or Khan-Maidana.

[CaptainCharisma]

A revenge from Karass would more likely to be interesting than the Holyfield fight. And how about the Klitchko-Adamek fight? That will be interesting if Adamek really fits for HW div.

Can anyone tell me when will be the Dawson-Pascal 2 happen?

yeah Karass-Jones made the Pacquiao-Margarito undercard bearable

Klitschko-Adamek to happen in September, I don't know which Klitschko though

no word on the Dawson-Pascal rematch, Hopkins is intent on getting his rematch with Pascal first

No way Hopkins-Pascal is fight of the year. Pascal ran for most of the fight and Hopkins is a boring fighter in general.

Fight of the year is either Soto-Antillon or Khan-Maidana.

well, its the WBC (or any other boxing body for that matter) so no surprise with their selections, I do agree that those two are the fights of the year, with maybe Soto-Antillon getting the nod between the two

The Greatest of All-Time and the King of Pop

http://www.youtube.com/v/Nv9-VrwLah0

updated schedule of upcoming fights

February 19
Arena Roberto Duran, Panama City, Panama
Anselmo Moreno vs. Lorenzo Parra (WBA bantamweight championship)

February 19
Porsche Arena, Stuttgart, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
Felix Sturm vs. Ronald Hearns (WBA middleweight championship)

HBO
February 19
Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada
Fernando Montiel vs. Nonito Donaire (WBO/WBC bantamweight championship)
Mike Jones vs. Jesus Soto-Karass (welterweight)
Mark Melligen vs. Gabriel Martinez (welterweight)

February 25
Craneway Pavilion, Point Richmond, California
Ana Julaton vs. Franchesca Alcanter (junior featherweight)

Integrated Sports PPV
March 5
Prudential Center, Newark, New Jersey
Zab Judah vs. Kaizer Mabuza (IBF junior welterweight championship)

March 5
Koncerthuset, Copenhagen, Denmark
Evander Holyfield vs. Brian Nielsen (heavyweight)

HBO
March 12
Foxwoods Resort Casino, Mashantucket, Connecticut
Sergio Martinez vs. Sergei Dzinziruk (middleweight)

SHOWTIME PPV
March 12
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada
Miguel Cotto vs. Ricardo Mayorga (WBA junior middleweight championship)

March 19
Lanxess-Arena, Cologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
Vitali Klitschko vs. Odlanier Solis (WBC heavyweight championship)

HBO
March 26
Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, New Jersey
Yuriorkis Gamboa vs. Jorge Solis (WBA/IBF featherweight championship)

PPV
April 9
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada
Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Erik Morales (light welterweight)
Ronald Wright vs. Matthew Macklin (middleweight)

HBO
April 16
M.E.N. Arena, Manchester, Lancashire, United Kingdom
Amir Khan vs. TBA (WBA junior welterweight championship)

SHOWTIME
April 16
Coliseo Roberto Clemente, San Juan, Puerto Rico
Juan Manuel Lopez vs. TBA (WBO featherweight championship)

SHOWTIME
April 23
Nokia Theater, Los Angeles, California
Joseph Agbeko vs. Abner Mares (IBF bantamweight championship)
Yonnhy Perez vs. Vic Darchinyan (bantamweight)

April 30
SAP-Arena, Mannheim, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
Wladimir Klitschko vs. Dereck Chisora (IBF/WBO heavyweight championship)

PPV
May 7
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada
Manny Pacquiao vs. Shane Mosley (WBO welterweight championship)

SHOWTIME
May 14
TBA
Super Six World Boxing Classic semifinals
Andre Ward vs. Arthur Abraham (WBA super middleweight championship)

SHOWTIME
May 21
TBA
Super Six World Boxing Classic semifinals
Carl Froch vs. Glen Johnson (WBC super middleweight championship)

May 21
O2 Arena (Millenium Dome), Greenwich, London, United Kingdom
David Haye vs. TBA (heavyweight)

the blow blow fiasco

http://www.youtube.com/v/oxdWoU_URyk

[kimo1110]

yeah Karass-Jones made the Pacquiao-Margarito undercard bearable

Klitschko-Adamek to happen in September, I don't know which Klitschko though

no word on the Dawson-Pascal rematch, Hopkins is intent on getting his rematch with Pascal first



well, its the WBC (or any other boxing body for that matter) so no surprise with their selections, I do agree that those two are the fights of the year, with maybe Soto-Antillon getting the nod between the two

The Greatest of All-Time and the King of Pop

http://www.youtube.com/v/Nv9-VrwLah0

updated schedule of upcoming fights

February 19
Arena Roberto Duran, Panama City, Panama
Anselmo Moreno vs. Lorenzo Parra (WBA bantamweight championship)

February 19
Porsche Arena, Stuttgart, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
Felix Sturm vs. Ronald Hearns (WBA middleweight championship)

HBO
February 19
Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada
Fernando Montiel vs. Nonito Donaire (WBO/WBC bantamweight championship)
Mike Jones vs. Jesus Soto-Karass (welterweight)
Mark Melligen vs. Gabriel Martinez (welterweight)

February 25
Craneway Pavilion, Point Richmond, California
Ana Julaton vs. Franchesca Alcanter (junior featherweight)

Integrated Sports PPV
March 5
Prudential Center, Newark, New Jersey
Zab Judah vs. Kaizer Mabuza (IBF junior welterweight championship)

March 5
Koncerthuset, Copenhagen, Denmark
Evander Holyfield vs. Brian Nielsen (heavyweight)

HBO
March 12
Foxwoods Resort Casino, Mashantucket, Connecticut
Sergio Martinez vs. Sergei Dzinziruk (middleweight)

SHOWTIME PPV
March 12
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada
Miguel Cotto vs. Ricardo Mayorga (WBA junior middleweight championship)

March 19
Lanxess-Arena, Cologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
Vitali Klitschko vs. Odlanier Solis (WBC heavyweight championship)

HBO
March 26
Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, New Jersey
Yuriorkis Gamboa vs. Jorge Solis (WBA/IBF featherweight championship)

PPV
April 9
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada
Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Erik Morales (light welterweight)
Ronald Wright vs. Matthew Macklin (middleweight)

HBO
April 16
M.E.N. Arena, Manchester, Lancashire, United Kingdom
Amir Khan vs. TBA (WBA junior welterweight championship)

SHOWTIME
April 16
Coliseo Roberto Clemente, San Juan, Puerto Rico
Juan Manuel Lopez vs. TBA (WBO featherweight championship)

SHOWTIME
April 23
Nokia Theater, Los Angeles, California
Joseph Agbeko vs. Abner Mares (IBF bantamweight championship)
Yonnhy Perez vs. Vic Darchinyan (bantamweight)

April 30
SAP-Arena, Mannheim, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
Wladimir Klitschko vs. Dereck Chisora (IBF/WBO heavyweight championship)

PPV
May 7
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada
Manny Pacquiao vs. Shane Mosley (WBO welterweight championship)

SHOWTIME
May 14
TBA
Super Six World Boxing Classic semifinals
Andre Ward vs. Arthur Abraham (WBA super middleweight championship)

SHOWTIME
May 21
TBA
Super Six World Boxing Classic semifinals
Carl Froch vs. Glen Johnson (WBC super middleweight championship)

May 21
O2 Arena (Millenium Dome), Greenwich, London, United Kingdom
David Haye vs. TBA (heavyweight)

the blow blow fiasco

http://www.youtube.com/v/oxdWoU_URyk

I think WBC proposed the Hopkins-Pascal rematch but Pascal promoter been working on Dawson which would be interesting as well. What are your thought about this fight (Dawson-Pascal)?

Adamek is going after Wladimir I read in an article. This gonna be an exciting match for Adamek I think for him to get water tested. But I still hopes Haye will finally stop ducking.

[bucktoof]

well, its the WBC (or any other boxing body for that matter) so no surprise with their selections, I do agree that those two are the fights of the year, with maybe Soto-Antillon getting the nod between the two

whoops. i missed the part that said WBC. never mind then.

[kimo1110]

No way Hopkins-Pascal is fight of the year. Pascal ran for most of the fight and Hopkins is a boring fighter in general.

Fight of the year is either Soto-Antillon or Khan-Maidana.

I wonder where do you get these things. Started with Adamek's cherrypicking now on Hopkins. How can't that fight being a potential fight of the year? How can you say Bhop was a boring fighter? 10 out of 10 pundits everywhere including our own Quinito Henson would agree Bhop brought excitement on that fight. That fight was spectacular contrary on what you said, and even resulted an standing ovation.

Can you explicate the details of this fight furthermore that you concluded it was a boring fight?

[CaptainCharisma]

I think WBC proposed the Hopkins-Pascal rematch but Pascal promoter been working on Dawson which would be interesting as well. What are your thought about this fight (Dawson-Pascal)?

Adamek is going after Wladimir I read in an article. This gonna be an exciting match for Adamek I think for him to get water tested. But I still hopes Haye will finally stop ducking.

I think Hopkins-Pascal should happen first, its the fight fans want to see rather than Dawson-Pascal again, maybe Dawson can fight the winner of the rematch, a long-awaited Hopkins-Dawson could be a good fight


I hope they have a heavyweight tournament like the Super 6 in the 168 lb division, and please for the sake of the sport, I hope the Klitschkos fight each other (long shot)

[kimo1110]

I think Hopkins-Pascal should happen first, its the fight fans want to see rather than Dawson-Pascal again, maybe Dawson can fight the winner of the rematch, a long-awaited Hopkins-Dawson could be a good fight


I hope they have a heavyweight tournament like the Super 6 in the 168 lb division, and please for the sake of the sport, I hope the Klitschkos fight each other (long shot)

That's what Im talking about. A Boxing Fan.

I agree with you buddy. IMO and with my own scoring, Bhop was robbed and he deserves to get another title shot before it gets too late. Thats why I was confused when the guy above said that the fight should not be a fight of the year, and even mentioned Bhop is a boring fighter. Well how could that be a boring fight unless if you only watched the highlights through YOUTUBE mins ago?

As a fan, I wanna see him fight Dawson afterwards but how about Ward at 170? Well Hopkins at his best. However, I also wanna see a rematch between Pascal and Dawson, he already found the remedy so I give him my nod. In other words Pascal is overrated.

Regarding the Super six. I doubt it will happen in HW division, they have 3 superstars that are almost impossible to set a fight each other in the first place. And besides, that tournament was being held at showtime not HBO.

[CaptainCharisma]

That's what Im talking about. A Boxing Fan.

I agree with you buddy. IMO and with my own scoring, Bhop was robbed and he deserves to get another title shot before it gets too late. Thats why I was confused when the guy above said that the fight should not be a fight of the year, and even mentioned Bhop is a boring fighter. Well how could that be a boring fight unless if you only watched the highlights through YOUTUBE mins ago?

As a fan, I wanna see him fight Dawson afterwards but how about Ward at 170? Well Hopkins at his best. However, I also wanna see a rematch between Pascal and Dawson, he already found the remedy so I give him my nod. In other words Pascal is overrated.

Regarding the Super six. I doubt it will happen in HW division, they have 3 superstars that are almost impossible to set a fight each other in the first place. And besides, that tournament was being held at showtime not HBO.

yeah BHop was robbed and he deserves another shot at history, I think his point is Pascal-Hopkins is a good fight but the other two are more slambang types so much deserving of FOTY honors

I don't know if BHop still wants to go down in weight, but if there's an old man that can do it, its him

my ideal scenario is for BHop to take care of Pascal then Dawson, then maybe as you suggest Ward (since he's the new American hope), then maybe Pascal and Dawson can take care of their unfinished business,

we know BHop's a rugged borderline dirty but he's one of the fighters I admire due to what he has accomplished throughout his career and I'd like him to go out with a bang and more piece of history

as for the Heavyweight Super Six, I just suggested they follow that model, and they shouldn't include the Klitschkos (who won't fight each other anyway)

let the contenders have a tournament (and include Haye on this), instead of feeding bait after bait for the Klitschkos jab of death, let them test each other first, every HW title match has seen the same result for the longest time

[kimo1110]

yeah BHop was robbed and he deserves another shot at history, I think his point is Pascal-Hopkins is a good fight but the other two are more slambang types so much deserving of FOTY honors

I don't know if BHop still wants to go down in weight, but if there's an old man that can do it, its him

my ideal scenario is for BHop to take care of Pascal then Dawson, then maybe as you suggest Ward (since he's the new American hope), then maybe Pascal and Dawson can take care of their unfinished business,

we know BHop's a rugged borderline dirty but he's one of the fighters I admire due to what he has accomplished throughout his career and I'd like him to go out with a bang and more piece of history

as for the Heavyweight Super Six, I just suggested they follow that model, and they shouldn't include the Klitschkos (who won't fight each other anyway)

let the contenders have a tournament (and include Haye on this), instead of feeding bait after bait for the Klitschkos jab of death, let them test each other first, every HW title match has seen the same result for the longest time

I don't think Khan-Maidana could over Hopkins-Pascal in the FOTY. That Khan bout was a good fight but not that great for me when you compare it to Hopkins-Pascal. Khan floored the guy and was running late round to survive, it was all predicted (me and the entire scribes). On the other hand, nobody expected Bhop will do the same if not with the style but performance as he did against Pavlik, the real underdog but eventually the real winner. He was floored twice although the first one was a fluke but took the rest of the rounds in scorecard. Can you imagine that as he said "the kid is running away from Grandpa" lol. Sweet science at its best.

Now with Soto-Antilon, well I found the fight a very competetive and brutal one and I won't disagree that the bout can go FOTY. However, it should have been stopped late rd. 9.

[kimo1110]

Hell yeah. Hopkins-Pacsal rematch on set.

[CaptainCharisma]

yes! probably May

and thank goodness Holyfield had his fight postponed, the bad news is its gonna happen May 7, Holyfield may fight until 50 and beyond

[kimo1110]

Well people forget about Holyfield upcoming fights, nobody interested on it anymore. What makes it more interesting is when Marquez backed out on Morales to find another opponent while Morales chose Maidana to fight this year.

[CaptainCharisma]

I fear for Morales...

and LOL wassup with the long hair for Pac

[tito423]

HBO
March 12
Foxwoods Resort Casino, Mashantucket, Connecticut
Sergio Martinez vs. Sergei Dzinziruk (middleweight)

I like this one, overlook ito si Dzinziruk, the undefeated WBO Junior Middleweight champion, he'l be given a chance to fight the best.

I was disappointed on Marquez backing out of a fight with Morales, interesting to see even if its already a little to late.