Blood Money!

[flyingVoter2]

Bakit may blood money sa mga muslim? kung may nagkasala sa inyo papayag ba kayo na tumanggap ng blood money? Lets discuss it here.

[face_down]

Para sa akin depende. Kung aksidente at hindi sinasadya bakit hindi? Kahit dito sa Pinas usong uso naman yan. Kapitbahay ko nga napatay sa away sa kalsada 100k lang tsaka tricycle tapos usapan. Hindi sila Muslim. Tapos lasing naman binaril ng airgun nabuhay naman 20k tapos usapan. Hindi rin sila Muslim. Usong uso yang areglo na yan.

[banimalek]

Bakit may blood money sa mga muslim? kung may nagkasala sa inyo papayag ba kayo na tumanggap ng blood money? Lets discuss it here.

17:33
Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand qisas or to forgive): but let him nor exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the Law).

Sa Islam ang pamilya ng biktima ang magdesisyon kung patatawarin niya o hindi ang akusado, unlike sa batas ng tao ay puwedeng patawarin ng pangulo ang bibitayin akusado

[face_down]

17:33
Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand qisas or to forgive): but let him nor exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the Law).

Sa Islam ang pamilya ng biktima ang magdesisyon kung patatawarin niya o hindi ang akusado, unlike sa batas ng tao ay puwedeng patawarin ng pangulo ang bibitayin akusado

Naalala ko yung mga true to life movie. Isang tawag lang ni pangulo kanselado ang bitay.

[flyingVoter2]

Para sa akin depende. Kung aksidente at hindi sinasadya bakit hindi? Kahit dito sa Pinas usong uso naman yan. Kapitbahay ko nga napatay sa away sa kalsada 100k lang tsaka tricycle tapos usapan. Hindi sila Muslim. Tapos lasing naman binaril ng airgun nabuhay naman 20k tapos usapan. Hindi rin sila Muslim. Usong uso yang areglo na yan.

nasa koran ba ang blood money chuvaness?

[flyingVoter2]

17:33
Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand qisas or to forgive): but let him nor exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the Law).

Sa Islam ang pamilya ng biktima ang magdesisyon kung patatawarin niya o hindi ang akusado, unlike sa batas ng tao ay puwedeng patawarin ng pangulo ang bibitayin akusado

medyo naguluhan ako dito. pag nakapatay pwedeng patawarin pero kung ang isang babaeng muslim ay nangaliwa stone to death agad ang kapalit?

[banimalek]

Naalala ko yung mga true to life movie. Isang tawag lang ni pangulo kanselado ang bitay.

Iyon na nga kapatid na iyong pangulo ang makakapagligtas doon sa bibitayin unlike sa Islam na ang pamilya ng biktima ang may karapatan, tulad ng bibitayin na tatlong pinoy dito sa saudi na nakapatay ng kapwa pinoy, ang hinihintay lang ay tanazul (sulat ng kapamilya ng biktima na nagsasabing pinatawad nila o tinatanggap nila ang blood money), kapag hindi pumayag ang pamilya ng biktima ay pupugutan na sila ng ulo sapagkat pinagtibay na ito ng Sharia Law.

nasa koran ba ang blood money chuvaness?

Ngek! inilatag ko na nga iyong Quran verse ay nagtanong kapa

[banimalek]

medyo naguluhan ako dito. pag nakapatay pwedeng patawarin pero kung ang isang babaeng muslim ay nangaliwa stone to death agad ang kapalit?

Teka ano ba ang topic mo blood money ba o stone to death

Pareho ba ang dalawang iyan kasi sa tingin ko dapat isara mo na ito at hanapin mo iyong thread ng stoning to death kung diyan din pala ang tungo ng argumento mo.

[flyingVoter2]

Teka ano ba ang topic mo blood money ba o stone to death

Pareho ba ang dalawang iyan kasi sa tingin ko dapat isara mo na ito at hanapin mo iyong thread ng stoning to death kung diyan din pala ang tungo ng argumento mo.

hinde mo naman nagets ang point ko dito eh. pag pinost ko naman ang tanung ko dun sa stoning to death sasabihin mo naman stoning to death ang topic dun. sagutin mo na lang din. ok lang patawarin ang pumatay as long as may blood money ka na ibibigay at tatangapin ng kamag anak pero pag nangapid ang isang babae eh stoning to death agad? mas mabigat ba ang pangaapid?

[flyingVoter2]

17:33
Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand qisas or to forgive): but let him nor exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the Law).

Sa Islam ang pamilya ng biktima ang magdesisyon kung patatawarin niya o hindi ang akusado, unlike sa batas ng tao ay puwedeng patawarin ng pangulo ang bibitayin akusado

bakit sabi dito:

"O those of My servants who have transgressed against your own selves, despair not of Allah's mercy. Allah does forgive all sins, for surely he is the most forgiving most merciful one." (39:53)

si Allah pinapatawad ang lahat ng kasalanan pero sa verse na pinost mo aantayin muna na mapatawad ng pamilya ang nagkasala. bakit ganun?

[banimalek]

hinde mo naman nagets ang point ko dito eh. pag pinost ko naman ang tanung ko dun sa stoning to death sasabihin mo naman stoning to death ang topic dun. sagutin mo na lang din. ok lang patawarin ang pumatay as long as may blood money ka na ibibigay at tatangapin ng kamag anak pero pag nangapid ang isang babae eh stoning to death agad? mas mabigat ba ang pangaapid?

Brad ang pinag-uusapan dito ay iyong akusado na nakapatay kung saan itinatanong mo kung bakit may blood money, iyon bang adultery ay nakapatay ba?

Saan ba hihingi ng tawad ang nag-committed ng adultery

Ito ilalagay natin iyong tanong mo about blood money.

17:33
Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand qisas or to forgive): but let him nor exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the Law).

[retxed]

hinde mo naman nagets ang point ko dito eh. pag pinost ko naman ang tanung ko dun sa stoning to death sasabihin mo naman stoning to death ang topic dun. sagutin mo na lang din. ok lang patawarin ang pumatay as long as may blood money ka na ibibigay at tatangapin ng kamag anak pero pag nangapid ang isang babae eh stoning to death agad? mas mabigat ba ang pangaapid?

Blood Money (Diya in Arabic)

According to the Sharia law, the family or relatives of a murdered/killed person can either pardon the murderer/killer in exchange of blood money or go ahead w/ the capital punishment - death! pugot ulo or stoning wherein the relatives of the slain
person will participate in putting to death the suspect/s - napatunayan man or hindi. kawawa dito un napagbintangan lang eh.

Blood money is not paid if a person kills another while trying to defend himself or herself, his/her family, his/her property or other individuals and their property from harm. this is same as in self defense and defense of others - Philippine Law style.

(not true in the case of Sarah Balabagan-remember her? so where's the consistency here?)
A person who is keeping an animal, whether he or she is the owner/s or not, must control that animal and will be legally responsible and have to pay if that animal causes the death of another person.

Also the person/owner of a building or the manager in a company, factory or any person in charge will be legally responsible for the death of person or persons if the building collapses or of anyone in their charge dies due to negligence on their part.

If a person who owns equipment or machinery will be liable to charges and payment of diya if the equipment or the machinery causes the death of another person. In case the crime was committed by a group of persons, each of everyone in the group should pay blood money in accordance to their share of the crime. the court may order all persons found legally responsible to pay for the damages equally.

tama si face_down - areglo nga ito sa tagalog! Money talks! mushkila? not all Muslims can afford to pay the diya. Pano na?

merged nyo to sa thread namin ni kos_mos, face_sumagot ka na ba dun?

hala, sige pa! Sharia Laws - walang google! ya salaam!

[banimalek]

bakit sabi dito:

"O those of My servants who have transgressed against your own selves, despair not of Allah's mercy. Allah does forgive all sins, for surely he is the most forgiving most merciful one." (39:53)

si Allah pinapatawad ang lahat ng kasalanan pero sa verse na pinost mo aantayin muna na mapatawad ng pamilya ang nagkasala. bakit ganun?

Brad ang Allah ay mapagpatawad ngunit ang ginawa mong kasalanan dito ay hahatulan ka naayon sa kaparusahan ipapataw sa inyo dito sa lupa, iba po iyong sa langit kung saan kung taus puso ang pagsisi mo ay puwede kang mapatawad ng Allah.

Ngayon matanong kita kasi ginamit mo ang Allah, mayroon bang nakakausap ang Allah at naitanong kung napatawad na iyong tao?

[flyingVoter2]

Brad ang Allah ay mapagpatawad ngunit ang ginawa mong kasalanan dito ay hahatulan ka naayon sa kaparusahan ipapataw sa inyo dito sa lupa, iba po iyong sa langit kung saan kung taus puso ang pagsisi mo ay puwede kang mapatawad ng Allah.

Ngayon matanong kita kasi ginamit mo ang Allah, mayroon bang nakakausap ang Allah at naitanong kung napatawad na iyong tao?

Yun nga point ko. Si Allah pwede magpatawad bakit ang tao hinde pwede magpatawad kahit sabihin natin na dito sa lupa. hinde naman pwede magpatawad ang tao di ba sa langit. gets mo point ko? wala na bang karapatang magbago ang isang tao pag nagkasala kaya pagayaw tanggapin ng pamilya ang sorry eh kamatayan na agad.

[flyingVoter2]

Brad ang pinag-uusapan dito ay iyong akusado na nakapatay kung saan itinatanong mo kung bakit may blood money, iyon bang adultery ay nakapatay ba?

Saan ba hihingi ng tawad ang nag-committed ng adultery

Ito ilalagay natin iyong tanong mo about blood money.

17:33
Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand qisas or to forgive): but let him nor exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the Law).

kasalanan din di ba ang adultery. siyempre hihinge ka ng tawad sa asawa mo dahil bilang isang tao natutukso ka rin. maraming magasawa na nagaaway dahil sa pangaapid pero nagkakabalikan pa din dahil nagkakapatawaran. kung babatuhin mo hanggang mamatay ang nangapid eh paano pa nila maayos ang pamilya nila. kung ikaw ang anak at nang-apid ang nanay mo isa ka din ba sa mambabato sa kanya hanggang mamatay siya o papatawarin mo siya? again ang pagpatay pwedeng patawarin pero ang pangaapid hinde?

[flyingVoter2]

Blood Money (Diya in Arabic)

According to the Sharia law, the family or relatives of a murdered/killed person can either pardon the murderer/killer in exchange of blood money or go ahead w/ the capital punishment - death! pugot ulo or stoning wherein the relatives of the slain
person will participate in putting to death the suspect/s - napatunayan man or hindi. kawawa dito un napagbintangan lang eh.

Blood money is not paid if a person kills another while trying to defend himself or herself, his/her family, his/her property or other individuals and their property from harm. this is same as in self defense and defense of others - Philippine Law style.

(not true in the case of Sarah Balabagan-remember her? so where's the consistency here?)
A person who is keeping an animal, whether he or she is the owner/s or not, must control that animal and will be legally responsible and have to pay if that animal causes the death of another person.

Also the person/owner of a building or the manager in a company, factory or any person in charge will be legally responsible for the death of person or persons if the building collapses or of anyone in their charge dies due to negligence on their part.

If a person who owns equipment or machinery will be liable to charges and payment of diya if the equipment or the machinery causes the death of another person. In case the crime was committed by a group of persons, each of everyone in the group should pay blood money in accordance to their share of the crime. the court may order all persons found legally responsible to pay for the damages equally.

tama si face_down - areglo nga ito sa tagalog! Money talks! mushkila? not all Muslims can afford to pay the diya. Pano na?

merged nyo to sa thread namin ni kos_mos, face_sumagot ka na ba dun?

hala, sige pa! Sharia Laws - walang google! ya salaam!

good point retxed. antay ko ang sagot ni bani dine.

[banimalek]

Yun nga point ko. Si Allah pwede magpatawad bakit ang tao hinde pwede magpatawad kahit sabihin natin na dito sa lupa. hinde naman pwede magpatawad ang tao di ba sa langit. gets mo point ko? wala na bang karapatang magbago ang isang tao pag nagkasala kaya pagayaw tanggapin ng pamilya ang sorry eh kamatayan na agad.

Ilang ulit ko bang kailangan ipaliwanag na iba ang pagpapatawad ng Diyos sa pagpapatawad ng tao sapagkat may batas na ipinapatupad sa lupa.

O sige ipaliwanag mo kung ano ang batas na binanggit ng Diyos mo dito.

Ano ang sabi sa bibliya mo.


Deuteronomy 19:21 And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.


Ito ang mas matindi ang dami niyan.


Exodus 21:

14 But if a man come presumptuously upon his neighbor, to slay him with guile; thou shalt take him from mine altar, that he may die.

15 And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death.

16 And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death.

17 And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.

18 And if men strive together, and one smite another with a stone, or with his fist, and he die not, but keepeth his bed:

19 If he rise again, and walk abroad upon his staff, then shall he that smote him be quit: only he shall pay for the loss of his time, and shall cause him to be thoroughly healed.

20 And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.

21 Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.

22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.

23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,

24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,

25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

26 And if a man smite the eye of his servant, or the eye of his maid, that it perish; he shall let him go free for his eye's sake.

27 And if he smite out his manservant's tooth, or his maidservant's tooth; he shall let him go free for his tooth's sake.

28 If an ox gore a man or a woman, that they die: then the ox shall be surely stoned, and his flesh shall not be eaten; but the owner of the ox shall be quit.

29 But if the ox were wont to push with his horn in time past, and it hath been testified to his owner, and he hath not kept him in, but that he hath killed a man or a woman; the ox shall be stoned, and his owner also shall be put to death.

30 If there be laid on him a sum of money, then he shall give for the ransom of his life whatsoever is laid upon him.

31 Whether he have gored a son, or have gored a daughter, according to this judgment shall it be done unto him.

32 If the ox shall push a manservant or a maidservant; he shall give unto their master thirty shekels of silver, and the ox shall be stoned.

Nakakatuwa pa nga iyong nasa verse 28 na sabi ng Diyos ninyo "ox shall be surely stoned" pati ang ox babatuhin din

Hindi ba batas iyan sa lupa na ipinapataw ng Diyos mo.

[banimalek]

kasalanan din di ba ang adultery. siyempre hihinge ka ng tawad sa asawa mo dahil bilang isang tao natutukso ka rin. maraming magasawa na nagaaway dahil sa pangaapid pero nagkakabalikan pa din dahil nagkakapatawaran. kung babatuhin mo hanggang mamatay ang nangapid eh paano pa nila maayos ang pamilya nila. kung ikaw ang anak at nang-apid ang nanay mo isa ka din ba sa mambabato sa kanya hanggang mamatay siya o papatawarin mo siya? again ang pagpatay pwedeng patawarin pero ang pangaapid hinde?

Sige ipaliwanag mo ang sabi ng Diyos mo.

Leviticus 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbor's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

Ano ba ang hatol?

[banimalek]

good point retxed. antay ko ang sagot ni bani dine.

Saan doon ang good point ni rexted, pakilatag nga

[flyingVoter2]

Sige ipaliwanag mo ang sabi ng Diyos mo.

Leviticus 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbor's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

Ano ba ang hatol?

bakit nung si Kristo hinarap sa kanya ng taong bayan ang isang prostitute para batuhin hanggang mamatay ano sinabi niya " kung sino sa inyo ang walang kasalanan ang maunang mambato sa babaing ito". may nambato ba? di ba wala!

ngayon sagutin mo tanung ko sa iyo. pag nangapid ang nanay mo isa ka din ba sa babato sa kanya hanggang mamatay siya?