alin mas ok vmobile or uniload?

[calfism]

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/vi...MLM+Company%3F

[Max_Buwaya]

OA naman po yung laging 30 min.. =) Occasional lang po yun.. pag may system maintenance ang mga telco o ang mismong system n vmobile.. seconds lang po .. =) at pag yung vmobile sim ang gamit mo..pagkapindot pa lang ng send my load na agad =) sa gateway po yung may delays minsan pero di naman minutes.. pag may problema naman pinopost sa official FB page ng vmobile=)

At saka.. hindi naman po namin benebenta ang load.. kundi ginagamit namin.. kaya nga po Convenience, Discount, at Extra Income... DISCOUNT..ibig sabihin pang personal consumption..Nasa sayo na yun kung gagamitin mo pangload sa ibang tao...=) pwede din naman dahil kelangan talaga ng tao ang load kaya sila na ang lalapit sayo =) at imbes na maging retailer ka ng load.. di ishare mo na lang yung business..para naman magkaroon din sila ng lifetime discount sa load =) pero wag lang naman puro share.. as technopreneurs/technousers we are responsible to teach them and mentor them..More power Fellow vmobilers =)

so what are you trying to say? that i am lying?

hindi binebenta ang load? so para saan yung nakasaad sa video na kung magbebenta ka ng 20 technocards and they load at least P1,000 a day, magkakaroon ka ng 2% x 1,000 x 20 = P400 daily or P12,000 monthly? tatanungin kita, pag nagbenta ka ba ng technocards, sigurado ka bang maglo-load yan ng P1,000 daily or P30,000 monthly for personal consumption lang at hindi pang-eloading business?

'di ko pa nga sinasagot ang question ni chrislpc, depensib ka agad.

[rhona0525]

so what are you trying to say? that i am lying?

hindi binebenta ang load? so para saan yung nakasaad sa video na kung magbebenta ka ng 20 technocards and they load at least P1,000 a day, magkakaroon ka ng 2% x 1,000 x 20 = P400 daily or P12,000 monthly? tatanungin kita, pag nagbenta ka ba ng technocards, sigurado ka bang maglo-load yan ng P1,000 daily or P30,000 monthly for personal consumption lang at hindi pang-eloading business?

'di ko pa nga sinasagot ang question ni chrislpc, depensib ka agad.

Hindi naman po, I'm just telling what my experience is =) Example lang naman po yung nasa video para madali lang maintindihan..Actually eto po ang totoo =)

OBJECTIVES:
1. To get ACCESS to LIFETIME discounts on Personal Consumptions of Pre-paid products through VMOBILE.
2. To help create jobs and source of income for our family and relatives in the Philippines through VMOBILE.
3. To TEACH and LEARN to maximize the potential of EARNINGS from the membership with VMOBILE.

DISCLAIMERS!!!
Before you invest, you agree that your have READ and AGREE to this disclaimer that:
- YOU and you ALONE shall take responsibility of your ACTIONS!
- YOU MAY totally LOST your investment, TOTALLY! That's the RISK of investing!
- VMobile cannot make you RICH. The Technopreneurs who sponsored/recruited you cannot make you RICH. It is YOU who will WORK to make you RICH and meet your target!
-DO NOT blame anyone for your FAILURE. VMobile and your fellow Technopreneurs are sharing the OPPORTUNITY. It is upon YOU to act.
....................................

[Max_Buwaya]

yeah, like it was my fault that it took 30 minutes before the load starts to come in to your customer's mobile

yes i lost my investment, a measly P3,988. pardon for sounding like mayabang, but at first ni hindi ko inisip na yayaman ako jan. as i have said, pinagbigyan ko lang ang kaibigan ko.

you review my post. i did not have any problem with my prospects backing out. e di wag kung wag, kung hindi e di hindi. what i was pointing out was the experience of eload delay which is kami mismo ang nasisira sa mga kumuha ng technocards.

if you want to take a defensive stand, doon lang sa eloading delay. you are suggesting that i am just sourgraping dahil nag back out na ang mga kaibigan ko. di hamak na mas importante ang kredibilidad ko kesa sa kikitain ko. gets na, iha?

[rhona0525]

yeah, like it was my fault that it took 30 minutes before the load starts to come in to your customer's mobile

yes i lost my investment, a measly P3,988. pardon for sounding like mayabang, but at first ni hindi ko inisip na yayaman ako jan. as i have said, pinagbigyan ko lang ang kaibigan ko.

you review my post. i did not have any problem with my prospects backing out. e di wag kung wag, kung hindi e di hindi. what i was pointing out was the experience of eload delay which is kami mismo ang nasisira sa mga kumuha ng technocards.

if you want to take a defensive stand, doon lang sa eloading delay. you are suggesting that i am just sourgraping dahil nag back out na ang mga kaibigan ko. di hamak na mas importante ang kredibilidad ko kesa sa kikitain ko. gets na, iha?

yes po, I know How you feel =) Di lang naman ikaw nakaexperience nun =) saka in my point naman.. I'm telling what the cos & pros in vmobile to my prospects.. so if they join di happy.. If not.okay lang naman.. kasi.. nung naginquire sila sakin.. hindi ko pa **** sila member.. pag di sila sasali wala din naman mawawala sakin =) it's some sort of kung panu mo ipaliwanag sa kanila yung system.. pag maintindihan nila di okay po.. at least pag sa simula pa lang alam na nila.. dati din naman.. example ang sun cellular.. di po ba.. halos walang signal?? minsan delayed ang messages.. di po ba ganun sila nung una.. pero as time goes by.. gumawa sila ng paraan.. kaya ngayon okay na ang suncellular.. di na nasasabi na kaya sun cellular may signal lang pag may araw.. di po ba? ganun din si vmobile may ginagawa naman pong paraan kaya nga po nagkaroon ng smart vmobile m-power sim..pero nasa beta test period pa lang.. and still waiting for the full version po.. just in case di niyo pa po alam yun mabibili yun sa office worth 50 pesos =) mas mabilis compared sa gateways.. in just 1 click may load na agad.. yun nga lang dahil nasa beta test period pa lang it's not yet perfect po.. =) sayang naman kung di niyo itutuloy.. nasimulan niyo na.. =) kahit pang personal use nio na lang..which is yun naman talaga ang mission ng vmobile.. para mgkaroon ng lifetime discount sa load.. at hindi ang mgretail ng load =) It's earning through consumption.. in case di niyo pa alam ang MYTURF Program ng Vmobile.. Other than loadxtreme and Mylx

[tennisace]

yes po, I know How you feel =) Di lang naman ikaw nakaexperience nun =) saka in my point naman.. I'm telling what the cos & pros in vmobile to my prospects.. so if they join di happy.. If not.okay lang naman.. kasi.. nung naginquire sila sakin.. hindi ko pa **** sila member.. pag di sila sasali wala din naman mawawala sakin =) it's some sort of kung panu mo ipaliwanag sa kanila yung system.. pag maintindihan nila di okay po.. at least pag sa simula pa lang alam na nila.. dati din naman.. example ang sun cellular.. di po ba.. halos walang signal?? minsan delayed ang messages.. di po ba ganun sila nung una.. pero as time goes by.. gumawa sila ng paraan.. kaya ngayon okay na ang suncellular.. di na nasasabi na kaya sun cellular may signal lang pag may araw.. di po ba? ganun din si vmobile may ginagawa naman pong paraan kaya nga po nagkaroon ng smart vmobile m-power sim..pero nasa beta test period pa lang.. and still waiting for the full version po.. just in case di niyo pa po alam yun mabibili yun sa office worth 50 pesos =) mas mabilis compared sa gateways.. in just 1 click may load na agad.. yun nga lang dahil nasa beta test period pa lang it's not yet perfect po.. =) sayang naman kung di niyo itutuloy.. nasimulan niyo na.. =) kahit pang personal use nio na lang..which is yun naman talaga ang mission ng vmobile.. para mgkaroon ng lifetime discount sa load.. at hindi ang mgretail ng load =) It's earning through consumption.. in case di niyo pa alam ang MYTURF Program ng Vmobile.. Other than loadxtreme and Mylx

If you are indeed telling your prospects the pros and cons of vmobile, then are you telling them:

a) what the ARPU is?
b) what the average distributor income is?

If you’re offering a business, these are the facts that really matter.

You mentioned that the real mission of vmobile is to offer a "lifetime discount on loads", not to focus on "retailing the load". You also mentioned that "it's earning through consumption".

Here’s the problem:

a) Are you aware of the MLM 70% rule? Basically, it requires that 70% of your income must come from retail sales. If that’s not the case then you’re not really engaging in a legitimate MLM operation.

b) Earning through consumption is not a legitimate business activity. If you’re selling what amounts to a lifetime discount, what you’re engaged in is what is called as a “buying club”. In essence, you’re selling memberships to this “buying club” and this is where you make your commissions.

So, either you don’t really understand what a legitimate MLM is and how a legitimate MLM must operate, or you’ve been misinformed and practically duped into this pseudo-business operation.

[ezload28]

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[ezload28]

GO! GO! GO VMOBILE! Habang tumatagal gumaganda ang services... Wala na kong hahanapin pa sa VMOBILE, andito na lahat... Magandang negosyo, mabuting kaibigan at kapamilya! Hindi natin kelangan manira ng kalaban para umasenso ang business natin, wag natin gayahin ang ibang bagong sulpot na company, na walang ginawa kundi mangulit at manira ng negosyo ng iba... Kung may ticketing at bills payment sila, malapit na rin tayong magkaroon non! So wag na tayong bumitaw kay Vmobile, tuloy-tuloy lang tayo... POWER!!!

Gusto mo bang kumita sa puhunang P4999?
visit: www.ezload.ph para malaman mo kung pano kumita sa maliit na puhunan.
Interesado ka ba?
kung interesado ka magtext lang sa numerong ito
GLOBE: 09279503868
SMART: 09072360140
EZLOAD Batangas City
Dealership worth P4999
Retailership is for FREE
"thank you & godbless"

[aybyn]

For those planning to have loading business, much better go to traditional load using a retailer sim,
Hussle free kasi totally no delays and may incentives pa sya
Kaya lang need mo different cellphone for each network

For those who like i can offer globe and sun only
Just contact me @ 09328891145 or 09152138166

[pop_smic]

If you are indeed telling your prospects the pros and cons of vmobile, then are you telling them:

a) what the ARPU is?
b) what the average distributor income is?

If you’re offering a business, these are the facts that really matter.

You mentioned that the real mission of vmobile is to offer a "lifetime discount on loads", not to focus on "retailing the load". You also mentioned that "it's earning through consumption".

Here’s the problem:

a) Are you aware of the MLM 70% rule? Basically, it requires that 70% of your income must come from retail sales. If that’s not the case then you’re not really engaging in a legitimate MLM operation.

b) Earning through consumption is not a legitimate business activity. If you’re selling what amounts to a lifetime discount, what you’re engaged in is what is called as a “buying club”. In essence, you’re selling memberships to this “buying club” and this is where you make your commissions.

So, either you don’t really understand what a legitimate MLM is and how a legitimate MLM must operate, or you’ve been misinformed and practically duped into this pseudo-business operation.

so what are you trying to say? that i am lying?

hindi binebenta ang load? so para saan yung nakasaad sa video na kung magbebenta ka ng 20 technocards and they load at least P1,000 a day, magkakaroon ka ng 2% x 1,000 x 20 = P400 daily or P12,000 monthly? tatanungin kita, pag nagbenta ka ba ng technocards, sigurado ka bang maglo-load yan ng P1,000 daily or P30,000 monthly for personal consumption lang at hindi pang-eloading business?

'di ko pa nga sinasagot ang question ni chrislpc, depensib ka agad.

I think what they are trying to say sa hindi nagfofocus sa retailing load is hindi mass loading. pwedeng sabihin na since buong family nagcoconsume ng load imbes bumili sila sa store sayo na lang. pwede ka nilang bayaran then kumita ka pa kasi yung discount sayo napunta. Pwede rin naman mag mass retailing since lumabas na yung Vmobile sim card kasi indi talaga maiwasan na gustong gawing business yung pagbebenta ng load. Ang gusto lang din ng Vmobile is magkaron ng consumer empowerment. kasi sa store nga parang pandagdag lang yung loading. and mas marami naman talagang consumers kesa nagbebenta so why not nga naman na bigyan ng opportunity yung mga consumers na magkaron ng discount kesa bumili ng overpriced na load. At the same time pwede rin nilang ishare yun sa iba para makahelp din sila na magkaron ng discount yung mga friends nila. and pag nahsare nila ang tamang info sa iba pwede silang kumita ng 500 per referral. Like katulad ng ginawa namin. nagpamember kami. so ginagamit namin yung discount kasi niloloadan namin yung sarili namin. then yung technouser cards binenta namin sa mga friends and relatives namin na gusto matry yung system and mabawi namin yung 4k na nilabas namin. Hindi kami nagbebenta ng load sa kanila pero sila mismo nilolodan nila yung family members nila. dun kami nakakakuha ng franchise retail override. Then yung iba sa kanila nagpamember na rin sa Vmobile kasi naging interested sila ang gusto rin nila na mashare sa iba. habang may naiinvite sila at may nagpapamember sa group namin nagkakaron kami lahat ng endorsement fee and sales incentives. Syempre first rule namin before namin isahre sa iba is to know the business, gamitin at try ang product para pag may magtanong kung paano at bakit.. masasagot namin. once in a while umaattend din kami ng technical trainings para ma update naman kami sa mga products kung paano gagamitin and kung bakit minsan delayed. and nalaman namin dahil text based cia for example may sira sa Smart csyempre affected ang system. Buti na lang din nalabas yung Vmobile sim card which is big help. Hope this helps. kasi syempre as a franchiser din ng Vmobile, so far wala pa naman kaming naeencounter na big problems regarding sa system meron lang talagang pagkakataon na bumabagal due to system updates or telco's problems which is ineexplain namin sa mga partners natin sa Vmobile.

[tennisace]

Self-use discounts are not income; it’s merely a reduction of cost.

Dami mo sinabi, hindi mo rin sinagot tanong, re: ARPU and average distributor income.

[rhona0525]

For those planning to have loading business, much better go to traditional load using a retailer sim,
Hussle free kasi totally no delays and may incentives pa sya
Kaya lang need mo different cellphone for each network

For those who like i can offer globe and sun only
Just contact me @ 09328891145 or 09152138166

Yes I also suggest kung gusto niyo ng retailing better be in the traditional loading system.. pero kung gusto niyo ng Discount lang sa load for almost 300 prepaid products.. be in Vmobile =)

[rhona0525]

Self-use discounts are not income; it’s merely a reduction of cost.

Dami mo sinabi, hindi mo rin sinagot tanong, re: ARPU and average distributor income.

yes po.. para nga yan sa mga gustong makatipid =) pero still may 7 ways to earn po.. at ngayon may promo ang vmobile.. And will give you the chance to win a mitsubishi montero sports car.. valid until Feb 2013 =) Activate lang po natin ang MYTURF.. Earning through consumption =) nasa kanila naman yun kung explore nila yung mga opportunities offered ng vmobile.. kung ayaw nila.. ayos lang =) hehe

[pop_smic]

Self-use discounts are not income; it’s merely a reduction of cost.

Dami mo sinabi, hindi mo rin sinagot tanong, re: ARPU and average distributor income.

About sa ARPU- i think you should ask the company since sila ang may data nyan. Being a distributor/dealer/franchiser we have 8 ways of how to earn. Since networking Din ang Vmobile at alam naman natin na pag naetworking nakadepende talaga yan sa sipag ng tao. Pero kung retailing load just like the traditional pareho lang. Sa 300 na cp load 30 pesos ang kita mo. So depende kung gaano kadami kang magbenta ng load at kung ilang oras ka magbebenta ng load. Sa katulad ko na discount lang and doing the networking side activated ang myturf ko and lahat ng override an average of 10000-15000per month ang income ko. Sa husband ko naman na purely networking is 20000-25000 per month.

[tennisace]

About sa ARPU- i think you should ask the company since sila ang may data nyan. Being a distributor/dealer/franchiser we have 8 ways of how to earn. Since networking Din ang Vmobile at alam naman natin na pag naetworking nakadepende talaga yan sa sipag ng tao. Pero kung retailing load just like the traditional pareho lang. Sa 300 na cp load 30 pesos ang kita mo. So depende kung gaano kadami kang magbenta ng load at kung ilang oras ka magbebenta ng load. Sa katulad ko na discount lang and doing the networking side activated ang myturf ko and lahat ng override an average of 10000-15000per month ang income ko. Sa husband ko naman na purely networking is 20000-25000 per month.

If you're selling the product and recruiting for the network scheme then you should know what the ARPU is. You should at least be familiar with the industry you're involved in.

It doesn’t matter if you had a thousand ways to earn. Let me put it this way: a loaf of bread sliced into many pieces still amounts to a loaf of bread.

Between what I know about the ARPU and the average distributor income relative to the apparent level of saturation, I can’t see how your income numbers add up. It seems unsustainable. But, I could be wrong.

[tennisace]

Look, let's be honest here: Do any of you "technopreneurs" really know what the ARPU is? There's no shame in admitting that you don't.

I don't know if I should laugh because those of you who know just don't want to publicly disclose it for fear that your million-buck propaganda could be marginalized, or should I cry because you're in this business and you lack a full understanding of the business you're in.

To VMobile's credit, they've been disseminating this information to all you recruits. But, the devil is always in the details, isn't it?

[Kait]

4 Years na ang VMOBILE...Yey mabuhay ang VMOBILE...

[manu_nulat]

kung gusto nyo pa ng extra income bukod sa loading business eh mag earn ng pera sa internet po

tutorial po ito, basa basa lang.. this is legit..

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[prize]

What's the difference of transacting directly to globe/sun/smart vs. vmobile?

[alienman]

What's the difference of transacting directly to globe/sun/smart vs. vmobile?

pag directly,mas malaki ang discount kasi walang kahati sa kita.sa vmobile kasi bukod sa kita ng smart/globe/sun kukuha pa doon ng kikitain ang vmobile at dealers nito.gets?