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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by imnotsam View Post
    I guess it really depends on the person's bias, interest, abilities.
    Super like! Plus, the professor's method of teaching.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by lonelyrice View Post
    We had accounting last sem and my I.T. classmates really performed very well in accounting. My professor in accounting is also an accountant but she really admires programmers because of their logic. Plus both I.T. and Comsci had tons of maths compared to Accountancy. Not to mention that some math subjects of CS and IT are the same with engineering courses.

    But still, I have deep respect to accounting majors because they are able to memorize those terms like depreciation, accrued liabilities, etc (I hate memorization! :P )... plus their course is also mainly about analysis like CS, IT, and engineering courses.
    First, iba naman kasi ang higpit ng pag handle sa IT student na kumukuha ng subject na accounting. Iba ang approach kapag sa BSA student **** .. pukpok kung pukpok kaya d mo din masasabi na madali ang accounting dahil nakapagtake up ka na .. 5 yrs ang accountancy .. hindi 1 sem

    second, hindi memorization ang accounting ... ***** sa inyo puro theories lang ang tinuro kaya memorization ang tingin mo .. kailangan dito ng analyzation .. hindi cia basta basta debit agad ng cash dahil ganun ang nasa libro ..

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by ggreggy View Post
    First, iba naman kasi ang higpit ng pag handle sa IT student na kumukuha ng subject na accounting. Iba ang approach kapag sa BSA student **** .. pukpok kung pukpok kaya d mo din masasabi na madali ang accounting dahil nakapagtake up ka na .. 5 yrs ang accountancy .. hindi 1 sem

    second, hindi memorization ang accounting ... ***** sa inyo puro theories lang ang tinuro kaya memorization ang tingin mo .. kailangan dito ng analyzation .. hindi cia basta basta debit agad ng cash dahil ganun ang nasa libro ..
    lahat naman siguro ng course requires ANALYZATION depende na lang siguro ng level.. for me parehas mahirap ACCOUNTANCY at IT/CS nasa tao na lang talaga paano siya mag-aadapt ^___^

  4. #24
    @greggy: Oh sige, kayo na ang mahirap ang course. pero i-correct ko lang po, wala pong salitang "analyzation" dapat "analysis" po yan. Paano mo naman nasabing theories lang ang tinuro sa amin, naging classmate ba kita?

  5. #25
    hehe Theories for comscie/IT parang pattern or rules but the output LOGIC is differ even the flaws/rules of the pattern/theories sariling diskarte baka sa accountancy u need to follow a certain theories or rules like in taxation etc kasi forsure may basic knowledge mga programmers/IT kasi most of system for accounting purposes/system almost 60% ^__^

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  7. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Iconic_v2 View Post
    DELUSION!!

    then why IT/CS Graduates are mostly underemployed?

    And I also notice most CS undergrads/graduates don't have what you called Logic. Only because you took some accounting subjects that made you think that Accountancy is less complicated than IT. FYI, the accounting subjects that you have in your curriculum were just basic accounting.

    Huh? then why IT/CS Graduates are mostly underemployed?
    - kahit anong course pa yan marame underemployed haha baka sabhn mo pati mga CPA eh puro may work hehe marame akong kilalang CPA na walang work ^__^ if IT/cs is concern need kasi ng basic knowledge or extreme logic developing system parang Hinde porket cs/it graduate ka eh programmer sabihin naten out 10 mga 2-4 lang ending to Programming.

    If your familiar to IT AUDIT/SAP inde sila magagawa ng mga programmers kung walang extreme ACCOUTING subjects na sinasabe mo ^__^ baka sa pananaw mo basic accouting lang system ng ginawa ng programmers example BSP(Bangko sentral ng pilipinas) particularly Internal Audit Office most eh CPA but the extreme ACCOUTING aka process na or AUTOMATED dahil sa IT/CS hai.. siguro naman wala kang galit sa mga Automated system kasi nawawala manpower pg automated kasi acurate at efficient computation ng Computer hehe kaya nga ayaw iautomate ng government system nila kasi inde na makaka kickback

  8. #27
    It's still accounting for me

    I have a lot of CS/IT batchmates who had poor grades yet they were able to secure IT positions at multinational companies like HP. These were students who can barely program a simple system

    In accounting, if you don't study well, you will definitely fail the board exam. Without the board exam you're pretty much jobless.

    Of course this is just limited to the school. At the workplace I have high respect for IT people especially the software developers. All I can say is that their work is the epitome of mental stress.

  9. #28
    I graduated from an IT course. I think accountancy is harder compared to IT as a college course. But when it comes to the real world where you practice what you learned in an industry setup - IT is HARDER. I am speaking of the programming line of IT ha.

    When you are a programmer kasi it is a necessity to have not just the technical skills but the business knowledge as well. Like for instance you are an IT consultant for an accounting firm who is seeking to automate their business process, for you to be an effective consultant you need to be aware of the accounting process as well, that's why we have accounting subjects in college to give us the basics. Knowledge of programming is not enough, it is just a fraction of the programming cycle; studying the business process is a lot harder.

    A programmer needs to be adept in the fast evolving technology too, unlike accountants who has the standards – what you learned from college is what you applied at work. For the IT it’s different, what you learned from college, is only a quarter of skills you need for work. Very diverse and IT so if you are someone who defy helter skelter kind of job, don’t go to IT it’s not for you.

  10. #29
    in fairness , mejo mahirap ang IT AUDIT namin . tingin ko naman , parehong mahirap , pero mas may effort sa pagaaral ang mga BSA students kaysa sa mga IT student . tingin ko lang naman .

  11. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by JackNDBeanstalk View Post
    I graduated from an IT course. I think accountancy is harder compared to IT as a college course. But when it comes to the real world where you practice what you learned in an industry setup - IT is HARDER. I am speaking of the programming line of IT ha.

    When you are a programmer kasi it is a necessity to have not just the technical skills but the business knowledge as well. Like for instance you are an IT consultant for an accounting firm who is seeking to automate their business process, for you to be an effective consultant you need to be aware of the accounting process as well, that's why we have accounting subjects in college to give us the basics. Knowledge of programming is not enough, it is just a fraction of the programming cycle; studying the business process is a lot harder.

    A programmer needs to be adept in the fast evolving technology too, unlike accountants who has the standards – what you learned from college is what you applied at work. For the IT it’s different, what you learned from college, is only a quarter of skills you need for work. Very diverse and IT so if you are someone who defy helter skelter kind of job, don’t go to IT it’s not for you.
    amen amen amen ^____^

  12. #31
    hindi ko alam kung aling course ang mas mahirap..
    sabi ng prof ko, sabi lang naman, kapag naging cpa na shift to IT audit kasi specialized *** trabaho, in demand pa ***** kasi syempre computerized na ang mga business.. expert ka na sa acctg/business world my alam ka pa sa computer.. tapos take ka na na CISA, certified internal systems auditor. edi ok na haha lol.
    hindi ako magaling sa computer, boplaks ako sa c++ nung hs eh haha lol pero i excel in acctg. so bottomline kung san ka mahilig, kung ano ang nais ng puso mo, kahit mahirap un magiging magaling ka parin sa landas na napili mo

  13. #32
    In college, Accounting is harder than IT.

    In the workplace, IT, specifically software development, is much more stressful compared to accounting. Even IT graduates are hesitant to enter programming specific positions after they graduate.

    IT is a very broad area, I think the majority here pertains to "Programming"

  14. #33
    There are several reasons why they're hesitant to apply for the position and I am going to list a few of them.

    They're probably not qualified for the position. If they're confident about their skills and knowledge the there's no reason for them to not apply for the position.

    They were just editing someone else's code while in college.

    They took Computer related degree because they "love" computers and/or because they're in demand. When I say they "love" computers, they love to use it for entertainment meaning games, facebook, and etc.

    They "love" computers but they're in the wrong field, most likely they're enrolled in a Computer Engineering/Science program but their interest is on Network Engineering, System Administration, IT-Security field and etc.

    "It's only hard when you don't understand it." - Unknown

  15. #34

    i love programming pero mas i think mas stressful yung accountancy .

    i will taking up acct next year. kasi parang mas professional tignan *** mga accountant compare to programmers. and parang napaka crowded na ng IT sa ngayon..ala lang share ko lang *** sa tingin kong kalagayan ngayon.hahhaha

  16. #35
    well crowded ang IT kasi mataas naman talaga ang demand

    Similiar to accounting, all forms of institutions whether it be banks, hospitals, schools or manufacturing firms all need IT professionals.

    There's a lot of money to be made in IT, that I can assure you of. Mabilis usually ang career growth and you are generally compensated well. Just make sure that you love IT kase you really won't last in the field pag hindi mo siya gusto. It's a tough love.

  17. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by JackNDBeanstalk View Post

    When you are a programmer kasi it is a necessity to have not just the technical skills but the business knowledge as well. Like for instance you are an IT consultant for an accounting firm who is seeking to automate their business process, for you to be an effective consultant you need to be aware of the accounting process as well, that's why we have accounting subjects in college to give us the basics. Knowledge of programming is not enough, it is just a fraction of the programming cycle; studying the business process is a lot harder.
    This.

    If it's school setting, accounting is much harder. But you go to the real world, IT won't let you sleep. It's a pain in the a.. if you have a non-IT clients.

  18. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by stellaartois View Post
    Just make sure that you love IT kase you really won't last in the field pag hindi mo siya gusto. It's a tough love.
    I've met a lot of people that do not love IT but has been in the field for more than 10 years or so. If they can help it, they will retire as an "IT guy". If it is in their comfort zone then most people will stay there as long as they can. Not a lot of people are willing to get out of their comfort zone.

    Let me reiterate this quote...

    "It's only hard when you don't understand it." - Unknown

  19. #38
    ang weird na ikompara ang 2 course na ito na sobrang layo. (buti pa sana kung between CS and Computer Engineering) unless meron dito na nakumuha at nakatapos both ng BSA and BSIT/CS.

    Ang accounting subjects na kinukuha ng mga non acctng majors ay natural lang na mas madali kaysa sa mga kinukuha ng mga majors

    At ang IT ssubjects na kinukuha ng mga non-IT majors ay ampaw lang kumpara sa kinukuha ng mga IT/CS Majors.

  20. #39
    sa mga gustong pakamatay sa trabaho take

    Accounting + IT = $$$$$$

    Wahahahhaha.

  21. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by JackNDBeanstalk View Post
    When you are a programmer kasi it is a necessity to have not just the technical skills but the business knowledge as well. Like for instance you are an IT consultant for an accounting firm who is seeking to automate their business process, for you to be an effective consultant you need to be aware of the accounting process as well, that's why we have accounting subjects in college to give us the basics. Knowledge of programming is not enough, it is just a fraction of the programming cycle; studying the business process is a lot harder.
    Quote Originally Posted by doughgee View Post
    This.

    If it's school setting, accounting is much harder. But you go to the real world, IT won't let you sleep. It's a pain in the a.. if you have a non-IT clients.
    And when I spoke about IT's need of accounting knowledge, it's a very very intricate knowledge they need hindi basic laang. Imagine a programmer programming an accounts payable module, the programmer needs to know every details of this process for him to produce an accurate program. He would need to know the dependencies like "ano may epekto ba ito sa balance sheet, general ledger, sa ibang module mayron kaya??" so an dami dami, at hindi laang yan he would still consider the robustness and flexibility of his program. Lahat ng programmer makakaintindi nito

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