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    The Inquisition: The Roman Catholic Church's greatest, most unforgivable SIN

    The Inquisition

    http://www.exposingchristianity.com/Inquisition.html


    the Inquisition makes your Roman Catholic clergy no different from the Nazis who slaughtered Jews during World War II (and the Roman Catholic Church was silent all throughout that period!).

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    ows talaga! icompare daw ba sa nazis. ang roman catholic church eh bumubuhay at hindi pumapatay.

    why blaming on the roman catholic church as a whole kung anong kasalanan ng ibang mga pari?

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    Read your history, jiji. Hindi iilang pari lang ang may gawa nito.

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    and the Roman Catholic Church was never sorry/apologetic/remorseful for the crimes that it committed during the Inquisition.

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    I'm not surprised. It took them hundreds of years just to apologize to Galileo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gs09 View Post
    I'm not surprised. It took them hundreds of years just to apologize to Galileo!
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Galileo_before_the_Holy_Office.jpg
    -- Galileo before the Holy Office, a 19th century painting by Joseph-Nicolas Robert-Fleury.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/Galileo_facing_the_Roman_Inquisition.jpg
    -- Cristiano Banti's 1857 painting Galileo facing the Roman Inquisition

    crime committed by the Roman Catholic Church to Galileo during the 1600's. apology only came in 2000. WTF!

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    again kung kasalanan ng mga sinaunang tao yan kasalanan pa ba nang simbahan ngayon hindi ko alam kung nagsorry na ang simbahan pero si pope john paul II nga nagsorry na sa ginawa ni hitler na pinapatay ang mga jews.

    i don't know why need for them to apologize always

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    ^ the Inquisition continues up to the present, c/o people like you.

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    Nilalabas lang 'yan para ipamuka sa inyo na ang Simbahan ninyo eh walang monopolyo ng moralidad sa mundo natin. Na ito ay nagkakamali rin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gs09 View Post
    Nilalabas lang 'yan para ipamuka sa inyo na ang Simbahan ninyo eh walang monopolyo ng moralidad sa mundo natin. Na ito ay nagkakamali rin.
    exactly!

    the Roman Catholic Church in itself is also an entity filled with sin- pedophile priests, clergymen who go into secret relationships with women (another useless, nonsense, Jurassic Catholic concept that should be junked: clerical celibacy), the millions murdered by Roman Catholic agents during the Inquisition, etc., receipt of jueteng money, your typical santong kabayo manangs who go to church regularly pero paglabas ng simbahan ay mala-imburnal ang dumi ng budhi.

    mismong ang Simbahan ay walang moral ascendancy to tell people kung anong tama at mali dahil ito mismo ay sobrang tindi ng kasalanan sa tao at sa Diyos.

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    hay naku kung ang romano katoliko eh madumi ang budhi sinong malinis ang budhi

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    a protestant wrote this on his blog

    No to the Reproductive Health Bill!


    The lines have been drawn. The Catholic Church has taken a firm stand against the population control bill which is now being pushed in Congress.

    The population controllers have aimed their big guns at the Catholic church in order to gain public support for their bill.

    As a Protestant Christian, I oppose the bill and I take the same stand as the Catholic church and I stand with them as they uphold life and as they take an uncompromising stand on abortion.

    I oppose the bill because:

    1) It condones abortion; yet abortion is A CRIME. The bill even says so, that abortion remains illegal. However, it has a provision that says "government shall ensure that women seeking care for post-abortion complications shall be treated and counseled in a humane, compassionate, and non-judgmental manner." Rep. Lagman says the bill has nothing to do with abortion.If so, why include this provision? It is already in practice. Hospitals already care for those who have aborted/killed their babies through abortifacient drugs and the use of "hilot". Why make it into law, when abortion is a CRIME?

    If the bill is for "Reproductive Health and Population Development", why include post-abortion complications, knowing that abortion is illegal? Why make it into law? What do post-abortion complications have to do with population development, which is what they say the country needs?

    2)It mandates the government and employers to supply contraceptives, including abortifacients, to the people . Contraceptives include IUDs, condoms and birth control pills. Birth control pills and IUDs can cause death of an embryo.

    Artificial contraceptives: there are two kinds:

    * one that prevents conception(like condoms) and
    * one that kills the embryo before it implants by making the uterus hostile to the embryo (IUDs, birth control pills).


    Life begins AT CONCEPTION, therefore, anything that kills a CONCEIVED life, whether that human life is called an embryo or is called a fetus, causes ABORTION.

    So, as the condom is not an abortifacient, birth control pills have such an abortifacient effect. Birth control pills are not that effective in stopping ovulation, and pill manufacturers know it makes the uterine lining hostile to an embryo. The IUD is not a chemical abortifacient, but it acts by irritating the uterine lining in order to make the uterus hostile to an embryo. So it causes death of an embryo.

    3) It mandates comprehensive sex education from 5th grade. That means children will be taught a contraceptive lifestyle, an immoral lifestyle focusing on "safe sex" and encouraging "experimentation". Sex is designed by God only for married couples (a man and a woman). Our children need CHASTITY EDUCATION focused on Biblical principles, not comprehensive sex education.

    4) It has included a "two-child policy". Rep. Lagman says it is not mandatory. Excuse me, but if it is not mandatory, why put it into law? The two-child policy outlined in the bill actually will allow for government educational scholarship opportunities for only the first two children. If you make this into a law, you will FORCE people to either use contraceptives or to kill their children through abortion.

    5) It lets leftist, godless, rabidly pro-abortion NGOs become part of a "population council" on local government levels. So it lets the pro-abortion people run the population control program. Google-search the NGOs backing this population bill and see how staunchly pro-abortion they are. (ex. Family Planning Organization of the Philippines, the Philippine office of International Planned Parenthood Federation. Planned Parenthood is the LARGEST ABORTION CLINIC OPERATOR in AMERICA.)

    6) It provides punishment to people who will criticize, disagree with and disobey the "population law" and its policies. Very undemocratic.


    To all Protestant, Evangelical, Pentecostal, Methodist, Baptist Christians: WE MUST TAKE A STAND AGAINST ABORTION. Abortion is the shedding of innocent blood. It violates the Sixth Commandment, "You shall not murder".The Lord hates hands that shed innocent blood.

    Government- mandated population control is not Biblical because Psalm 1273:-5 says:

    Sons are a heritage from the LORD,
    children a reward from him.

    Like arrows in the hands of a warrior
    are sons born in one's youth.

    Blessed is the man
    whose quiver is full of them.
    They will not be put to shame
    when they contend with their enemies in the gate.



    Government-mandated population control was done in the Bible by Pharaoh in the time of Moses ("the Hebrews are becoming too many, kill them as they are born and throw them in the river") and by Herod in the time of the Lord Jesus (for he heard from the Magi that the King they had come to worship was born in Bethlehem.)

    One unsuccessful population control law was issued in the time of Esther. The death decree issued by Haman to kill all the Jews was overturned by God through an orphan, Esther, as she risked her life again and again to approach the king of Persia under penalty of death, for the sake of her people.

    MAY THE ESTHERS ARISE IN THIS GENERATION, FOR SUCH A TIME AS THIS.


    source: http://proliferesources.blogspot.com...ll-by-rep.html
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    2 BOYS OF THE BASILICA DEL SANTO NINO SUE PRIEST FOR *** ABUSE

    CEBU CITY, January 16, 2003 (STAR)

    Finally, they summoned the courage.

    Six months after they went public, during which time they claimed to
    have gotten no justice from the Catholic Church, two of three former
    altar boys of the Basilica del Santo Niño filed charges of sexual
    abuse against an Augustinian priest before the city prosecutor’s
    office here.

    Michal Gatchalian and Jun Ryan Duhaylungsod, assisted by lawyer
    Paulino Labrado of the Children’s Legal Bureau, filed a complaint for
    acts of lasciviousness against Rev. Fr. Apolinario "Jing" Mejorada for
    alleged sexual abuses committed in the late 1990s when they were still
    minors.

    The filing of the complaint came as a stinging rebuke to the findings
    of a team from the Cebu Archdiocese tasked by Ricardo Cardinal Vidal
    to investigate the complaint after the three former altar boys went
    public with their allegations last July.

    The investigating team from the archdiocese released its findings only
    a few days ago but did not categorically say if the priest was guilty,
    saying only that he appeared so.

    Also, it did not propose any sanctions, preferring to let that action
    be taken by the Augustinian order.

    "Seeing no justice from within the church leadership, I have decided
    to seek justice from the regular courts, hoping that such bastardly
    (sic) acts of Fr. Jing would be given due course in accordance with
    law," Gatchalian stated in his affidavit.

    In disclosing the findings of the investigating team, Vidal was quoted
    as saying: " Well, it is not in the sense that guilty as used in the
    court but there are some incidents that would tend to that. It is only
    after having reviewed the whole matter that we will decide what to do,
    together with the community of the Augustinians. "

    ‘Hoodlum’

    In a six-page sworn statement, Gatchalian said he became an altar boy
    at the basilica in June 1995 and joined the Knights of Sto. Niño, an
    organization founded by Mejorada.

    He actually got to meet the priest in the summer of 1997. Since then
    their friendship grew and he often accompanied the priest on out-of-
    town Masses.

    Duhaylungsod said he met the priest in January 1998 when introduced by
    Gatchalian at the Pilgrim Center.

    Both said the abuses started on Jan. 11, 1998 when the priest invited
    them for an evening joyride on his motorcycle. After cruising around,
    the priest took them to Ayala Center Cebu ostensibly to meet a nurse-
    friend.

    At the mall, however, Mejorada told them his nurse-friend failed to
    arrive so he invited them instead to watch the movie "Hoodlum. " Once
    inside the theater, Mejorada allegedly insisted on being seated
    between the two boys.

    Gatchalian, who remembered wearing shorts at the time, said he was
    surprised when the priest took his hand and held it, and then began
    massaging his thigh.

    He said he tried to stop the caresses of the priest but was
    overpowered. Overcome with fear, he said he was eventually forced to
    feign sleep and leaned his body as far away as he could.

    However, Mejorada allegedly pulled him back and massaged his thighs
    again until the priest’s hands reached inside his underwear and began
    stroking his ***. His fear now replaced by shock, Gatchalian said he
    was immobilized and was unable to do anything except cover his face
    and cry.

    Duhaylungsod said he was shocked to see what was going on. " I was so
    shocked in so much disbelief that a priest would do that to an altar
    boy. Michal pretended to be asleep by covering his face and his body
    bent away from Fr. Jing. I heard Michal sobbing. Then, consequently,
    Fr. Jing removed his left hand away from Michal’s *** organ. "

    Stricken with fear, Duhaylungsod also pretended to be asleep. But his
    ruse did not work as Fr. Jing eventually also allegedly turned his
    attention to him, snaking his hand toward his zipper to unzip it.

    "I begged him not to do that, what he was doing, but he persisted so I
    cried and this apparently forced him to take his hand off me, "
    Duhaylungsod said.

    Half an hour later, the priest wiped the tears off their faces with
    his handkerchief. But Duhaylungsod said the priest still continued to
    try and kiss Gatchalian.

    Later the priest still managed to joke about whose private part was
    "better equipped," Duhaylungsod said.

    Gatchalian said after the Sinulog that year, during a pilgrimage to
    Ozamis City, he learned that the priest also abused other altar boys
    but the priest asked for forgiveness and made a show of repentance.
    The boy’s confidence returned and even became the priest’s student in
    Spanish. The boys began to go with the priest in Masses outside the
    city again.

    Then in September 1999, the priest invited them to his hometown of
    Loon, Bohol and there, after a swim, Gatchalian noticed that his bag
    was not in the room where he had placed it but inside the priest’s
    room. There, the priest again allegedly made advances and asked him to
    do the same to him but he refused and walked out.

    The following month, Gatchalian said he informed his spiritual
    director, Rev. Fr. Vicente Amplayo and his seminarian-brother who
    informed Rev. Fr. Romel Par.

    Fr. Par in turn told their superior, Rev. Fr. Edgardo Lazo. But
    Gatchalian said he and the other victims were told they can no longer
    serve as altar boys so that on Oct. 24 he wrote a letter to Fr. Jing
    who agreed to talk to him the next day with his lawyer Paulino Yabao.

    In that meeting, the priest allegedly admitted his wrongdoing and gave
    him P80,000 to pay for his school obligations since he lost his
    scholarship at the Center for Industrial Technology and Enterprise.

    Gatchalian said he also demanded a public apology from Fr. Jing but
    got nothing. Then in December 1999, he discovered that the priest was
    no longer at the basilica and learned he was on retreat.

    He also received appeals from Fr. Lazo to refrain from filing a case
    and that in exchange they will pay for his treatment and therapy.

    Lazo also allegedly admitted that Fr. Jing’s homosexuality is an open
    secret in the Augustinian community and that the priest is undergoing
    rehabilitation.

    Again, months passed without a public apology so Gatchalian sought the
    assistance of Rev. Fr. Richard Pido, the Augustinian prior provincial,
    in April 2000.

    Fr. Pido arranged a meeting among Fr. Jing, Gatchalian and another
    victim. They met the priest at the airport and managed to ask only for
    the payment of their tuition and written apologies plus counseling
    sessions.

    A week later, they checked on the progress of their request but that
    the prior provincial instead berated them and branded them as "mukhang
    pera " (greedy for money).

    In October 2000, assisted by lawyer Jorge Esparagoza, they decided to
    accept the offer of P120,000 each after being told that their case is
    difficult to pursue and file with the court. With them were the
    priest’s lawyer, Arturo Fernan, Rev. Fr. Mario Mejorada, a brother of
    Fr. Jing, and an Atty. Sinajon and three other victims.

    "We were persuaded to accept the money because our lawyers convinced
    us to just accept because it is very difficult to file and pursue a
    case in court."

    Furthermore, we thought that since Fr. Jing had already been expelled
    from the Order and will be going to Africa, that would already be
    enough punishment, " he said.

    After the negotiations, he said they signed a settlement agreement but
    that they have yet to receive a copy of the document. They were also
    verbally assured that they can serve again without discrimination and
    harassment at the basilica but experienced otherwise upon doing so.

    In March 2002, he heard that Fr. Jing was readmitted to the Order and
    would be coming back. He said he attempted to confront the
    Augustinians but his efforts were always blocked. A friend then
    advised him to seek assistance at the Community Scouts Center.

    On June 11, accompanied by Socrates Fernandez, he was introduced to a
    Pablita Toring who introduced him to Capt. Norma Corbo and lawyer Nina
    Valenzona who told him she will prepare his affidavit and blotter it
    with the police.

    A week later, he returned to the office and was informed that the
    priest was brought to the Cebu City Police Office. However, when he
    asked for a copy of the blotter, he was refused and instead received a
    suggestion from Valenzona to write Vidal a letter.

    In July he was told to undergo a psychiatric test which will be paid
    by the Order of Saint Augustine. At this he said he became suspicious
    and canceled the appointment. His suspicion proved true when he was
    told that Toring did not blotter the incident for legal complications
    as he already signed the settlement agreement.

    He was then told that the psychiatric test will determine if the
    priest should apologize so that he wrote another letter to Vidal and
    sent it himself.

    Vidal replied to assure him and the other victims that an
    investigation panel has been created.

    When nothing came of it, they went public by talking to media.

    – Freeman News Service

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    tama nga yung hinala ko sisirain ang kredibilidad ng simbahang katoliko na tumututol sa rh-bill para makahikayat pa sila ng marami lalo. nagiging anti-religion din ang karamihan.

    sana hindi sila magsisi bandang huli, which i doubt.

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    sa totoo lang ang simbahan mismo ang naninira sa kanilang sarili

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    sa totoo lang ang simbahan mismo ang naninira sa kanilang sarili
    sino gusto sirain ang sarili? hindi ba kayo talaga ang naninira kasi reproductive health and isyu nilalabanan niyo tuloy ang simbahan katolika. at bakit katolika lang, halos lahat pati muslim at born again christian, protestante tutol rito. kumbaga binabaling niyo ang isyu sa irrelevant na topic. matagal ng nakabaon sa hukay ang mga isyu na pinost rito hence ginagamit niyo to fight our religion.

    anong progress ang gusto niyo kung pabackward naman mga banat niyo

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiji View Post
    siro gusto sirain ang sarili? hindi ba kayo talaga ang naninira kasi reproductive health and isyu nilalabanan niyo tuloy ang katolika. at bakit katolika lang, halos lahat pati muslim at born again chritian, protestan tutol rito. kumbaga binebelow the point niyo ang isyu which is irrelevant. matagal ng nakabaon sa hukay ang mga isyu na pinost rito hence ginagamit niyo to fight our religion.
    alam mo hinde porket protestante ang nag sulat sa blog na yan eh buong protestant church na ang nag decide ako pinopost ko lang yung nasa news about sa abusive priest hinde ako yung naninira sa simbahan

    eto magbasa ka pa, pati etong pari pabor sa abortion na sinasabi mo, hinde po yan kasama sa RH bill ha
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle7100920.ece

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    Quote Originally Posted by mimigs View Post
    alam mo hinde porket protestante ang nag sulat sa blog na yan eh buong protestant church na ang nag decide ako pinopost ko lang yung nasa news about sa abusive priest hinde ako yung naninira sa simbahan

    eto magbasa ka pa, pati etong pari pabor sa abortion na sinasabi mo, hinde po yan kasama sa RH bill ha
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle7100920.ece
    so what is your motive on posting it? nakakwalang gana rin yang pinost mo pagbabasahin ng ibang katoliko. luckily, i'm not that sensitive.

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    mimigs like that protestant who disagree the rh-bill, meron din na pari ang pabor. ewan ko pero yung kakahukay niyo ng mga isyung ganyan involving mga alagad ng simbahan, ay parang sinabi niyo na balikan natin ang lumang panahon

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiji View Post
    so what is your motive on posting it? nakakwalang gana rin yang pinost mo pagbabasahin ng ibang katoliko. luckily, i'm not that sensitive.
    kinokorek lang kita hinde lahat ng protestante sang ayon sa RH bill dont forget our former president fidel ramos is a protestant and supports the RH bill

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