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  1. #1

    INC: sino po ang mga bulaang propeta ayon sa 2 Pedro?

    2 Pedro 2:1 "Ngunit nagkaroon ng mga bulaang propeta sa gitna ng mga tao. Gayundin naman may lilitaw ring mga bulaang guro sa inyo. Lihim nilang ipapasok ang mga nakakasirang maling katuruan. Ikakaila rin nila ang naghaharing Panginoon na bumili sa kanila. Inilalagay nila ang kanilang sarili sa biglang kapahamakan."

    sino sino po tinutukoy diyan? yun lang po.

  2. #2
    kung papansin niyo yan yung nagbawal ng pagaasawa at pagkain ng lamangkati ang doktrina ng demonyo sinu yan KATOLIKO

    "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and DOCTRINES OF DEVILS; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a red hot iron; Forbidding to marry ...."
    (I Timothy 4:1-2).

    dito hinuhulaan na sa sa mga panahon na yun may hihiwalay sa pananampalataya nakita mu ba ibig sabihin may pananampalataya na sila parallel sila ng 2 pedro 2:1 hinuhulaan na may lilitaw na bulaang propeta yun ang mga church fathers ng katoliko nagpasok ng trinity etc binago ang pangalan na itinayo ni cristo from Iglesia ni crisot ginawang iglesia katolika aposolika romana yung nagpasok ng mga aral ng tao na kalaban ng diyos tumpak ang HULA

    A. Forbidding To Marry

    In the official Catechism of the Catholic Church (Libreria Editrice Vaticana, copyright 1994, Ignatius Press, San Francisco, CA) on page 395 under #1580, speaking in the context of "priests" it states:

    In the East as in the West a man who has already received the sacrament of Holy Orders can no longer marry.

    It is well known that both priests and nuns are forbidden to marry.

    Jovian P. Lang, OFM, in his book entitled Dictionary of the Liturgy (copyright 1989, Catholic book publishing Co. N.Y.) on page 11 writes under "Abstinence,"

    Refraining from eating meat or food prepared with meat on certain days as commanded by the church, to remind us of Jesus' redeeming Death (on a Friday), to prepare for the celebration of certain feasts, to win heavenly graces, and to practice the virtue of penance (to atone for sin and for help in the firm purpose of amendment). "Days of abstinence" in the United States include Ash Wednesday, Good Friday and Fridays of Lent." On other Fridays of the year, all are exhorted to perform acts of devotion, self-denial, and charity in the spirit of piety and penance, and particularly for peace; abstinence from meat is especially recommended but under no obligation by law. Canon Law for the world prescribes abstinence on all Fridays (Canon 1251).

    Canon 1252 - All persons who have completed their fourteenth year are bound by the law of abstinence; (ibid., p. 855).


    kaya ito ang babala sa atin ng diyos umalis na tayu diyan

    "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues"
    Rev. 18:4).

  3. #3
    Krams, alam mo ba kung bakit may singsing sa 4th finger ang mga madre at mga pari? Alamin mo yan ahhh pareng krams...

    http://www.boston.com/news/globe/city_region/paulson/blog/21Rings-for-Cardinals.jpg

  4. #4
    pareng red apple wala akong pake sa singsing kung nagpakasal ba sila o hindi ang sa akin lang mali ang paraan ng pagbabawal magasawa dahil doktrina ito ng devil buksan mu ang isip mu dahil hindi nagsisinungaling ang banal na kasulatan

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by krams View Post
    pareng red apple wala akong pake sa singsing kung nagpakasal ba sila o hindi ang sa akin lang mali ang paraan ng pagbabawal magasawa dahil doktrina ito ng devil buksan mu ang isip mu dahil hindi nagsisinungaling ang banal na kasulatan
    Kaya sila me singsing sa ika-apat na daliri nila ay dahil kasal na sila inang Inang Simbahan.At katulad ng isang normal na asawa, hindi ito pwede pag-hiwalayin ng isang tao. Hindi rin pwede me maki-singit.

    Haaaayyyyzzzzz antok na ako. Matutulog na ako ngayon. Cge na, kung me apila ka pa cge bukas ko nalang sagutin ha. Byebye na lang pare. Ano ba religion mo?

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_D3g1G2ENjN4/SRU0t3XZHAI/AAAAAAAAByM/NN9xQN4j-e0/s400/ist2_3391548-sleeping-boy.jpg

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by red_apple47 View Post
    Kaya sila me singsing sa ika-apat na daliri nila ay dahil kasal na sila inang Inang Simbahan.At katulad ng isang normal na asawa, hindi ito pwede pag-hiwalayin ng isang tao. Hindi rin pwede me maki-singit.

    Haaaayyyyzzzzz antok na ako. Matutulog na ako ngayon. Cge na, kung me apila ka pa cge bukas ko nalang sagutin ha. Byebye na lang pare. Ano ba religion mo?

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_D3g1G2ENjN4/SRU0t3XZHAI/AAAAAAAAByM/NN9xQN4j-e0/s400/ist2_3391548-sleeping-boy.jpg
    oops ang tinutukoy mu ay hindi pu pagaasawa o pagsasama ng lalake at babae..... wag pu tayu gumawa ng ibang depinisyon ng pagaasawa..........may mababasa tayu na hinalintulad sa magasawa ang IGLESIA at si CRISTO pero hindi ang pagaasawa na isang lalake at babae laban sa iglesia na kalipunan ng maraming tao kaya ito ay isang taong bago pero ang tinutukoy po sa talata ay alam nating lahat ang pagsasama ng lalake at babae wag pu natin likutin at dumiretso tayu sa ibig sabihin ng talata


    "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and DOCTRINES OF DEVILS; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a red hot iron; Forbidding to marry ...."
    (I Timothy 4:1-2)

  7. #7
    sige malinaw ayon sa INC na ang mga bulaang propeta nga ay mga katoliko.. salamat po..

  8. #8
    pero hindi po bat ipinagbabawal din sa INC ang pagkain ng dinuguan?

    karne yun ah

    baka sa kasong ito patas lang ang laban.. parehong tinutukoy ang INC at Katoliko sa talata..

    so quits lang..

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by san andres View Post
    pero hindi po bat ipinagbabawal din sa INC ang pagkain ng dinuguan?

    karne yun ah

    baka sa kasong ito patas lang ang laban.. parehong tinutukoy ang INC at Katoliko sa talata..

    so quits lang..

    Ang Dios mismo ang nagbawal ng pagkain ng dugo mula pa sa panahon ni Noe (Genesis 9:1-4), at nagpatuloy sa panahon ng bayang Israel (Deuteronomio 12:23), hanggang sa panahon natin ngayon, ang panahong Kristiyano (Gawa 15:29; 21:25).

  10. #10
    Acts 15:29 eat no food that has been offered to idols; eat no blood; eat no animal that has been strangled; and keep yourselves from sexual immorality. You will do well if you take care not to do these things. With our best wishes."


    If anyone eat blood, then nothing good will happen to that person, kaya lahat ng biblical violation eh ginawa ng apostatise church whom Jesus started as a pure Church in the first century...Talagang napasok ng false prophets ang Church either we like it or not.

    Solution...

    "Come out of her, my people,"
    ..
    bakit my people ang tawag sa mga taong nasasa loob ng Catholic Church?

    Kasi nga the Catholic Church is the former Church of Christ that Jesus built in the first century that rebel against the Lord by changing the teachings that God and Jesus implemented to be observed...and the believers inside the Catholic Church are being deceived to observe the devil doctrines and pagan practices.

    If man will not come out and find the true Church...then the bible is clear..

    "...you share in her sins...receive of her plagues..."


    Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.

    Take God's advice GET OUT! As soon as possible!

  11. #11
    o sige bago ako tumalon diyan.. tanong muna. Yang pagbabawal na iyan madaming beses ko na nadinig yan eh.. di lang naman kayo nagsasabi niyan.. maski ibang relihiyon sinasabi aral daw ng demonyo ang Katoliko.

    tanong: bakit sa dinami-dami ng relihiyon na dapat kong paniwalaan INC ang dapat kong sundin?

  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by ETEs View Post
    [I]

    Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.

    Take God's advice GET OUT! As soon as possible!

    Dan 9:19 "O Lord (ang Panginoong Jesucristo ang nagiisang Panginoon - 1 Corinto 8:6b), hear; O Lord, forgive; O Lord, hearken and do; defer not, for thine own sake, O my God: for thy city and thy people are called by thy name."

    ETEs, ang "my people" na sinasabi ni Jesus sa Revelation 18:4 ay silang mga nakatakda Niyang piliin. Sila yaong sa kanilang mga puso ay hinahanap na tunay ang Dios; gusto Siyang makilalang tunay, at nagnanais na maunawaan ang Kaniyang mga salita. Sila, anomang oras at napasakop nang lubusan sa Kaniya, ay nakatakdang tawagin sa pangalan ng kanilang Panginoong Dios na CHRISTIAN.

    Kayo ay tinatawag na INC., hango sa piniling pangalan na itatawag sa inyo ng inyong pinuno.

    Ang panawagan ng Panginoon ay sa lahat nang mga nabibilang sa mga sekta na pinamumunuan ng mga lider ng pananampalataya (HER) na handang umalis, at magpakababa at magpasakop sa Kaniya.

  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by san andres View Post
    o sige bago ako tumalon diyan.. tanong muna. Yang pagbabawal na iyan madaming beses ko na nadinig yan eh.. di lang naman kayo nagsasabi niyan.. maski ibang relihiyon sinasabi aral daw ng demonyo ang Katoliko.

    tanong: bakit sa dinami-dami ng relihiyon na dapat kong paniwalaan INC ang dapat kong sundin?
    Because God sent another Man to bring back to life the Lost Church of Christ for man to have a chance for salvation.

    Pag-aralan mo ang logic ng sitas na ito...

    Revelation 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the rising of the sun, having the seal of the living God; and he cried out with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea,

    3 saying, "Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads."


    Kung totoo ang Catholic Church and the thousands of religion nowadays that also subscribed with the Catholic Church belief...

    Eh bakit Magpapadala pa ang Dios ng another ANGEL to seal the servants of God in the FUTURE eh gayung di naman nawala ang organization that Jesus built in the first century bagamat naging Catholic CHurch at nanganalk pa nga ng thousands upon thousands religious splinters di ba?

    Yan ang isang katunayan na ang Catholic Church and her splinter religious movements is no longer the way for salvation.

    Ang tao eh maliligtas lamang sa panahon natin kung makikita nila ang HUMAN AGGELOS or MESSENGER (angel) na nakasulat sa sitas at matatakan sila ng MESSENGER na yan. Other than that, NO FORM OF SALVATION AVAILABLE TO HUMAN that is/was written in the scriptures.

    Hint: where we can find the angel that was sent for salvation of mankind? FROM THE RISING OF THE SUN, at nakita ni Juan ang location of origin nung HUMAN MESSENGER OF GOD (angel)...

    "I saw another angel ascending from the rising of the sun, having the seal of the living God;"


    Hope you will give yourself a chance for salvation that God offer to mankind.

  14. #14
    so in short, you are promoting non other than Felix Manalo himself?

  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by aida View Post
    Dan 9:19 "O Lord (ang Panginoong Jesucristo ang nagiisang Panginoon - 1 Corinto 8:6b), hear; O Lord, forgive; O Lord, hearken and do; defer not, for thine own sake, O my God: for thy city and thy people are called by thy name."

    ETEs, ang "my people" na sinasabi ni Jesus sa Revelation 18:4 ay silang mga nakatakda Niyang piliin. Sila yaong sa kanilang mga puso ay hinahanap na tunay ang Dios; gusto Siyang makilalang tunay, at nagnanais na maunawaan ang Kaniyang mga salita. Sila, anomang oras at napasakop nang lubusan sa Kaniya, ay nakatakdang tawagin sa pangalan ng kanilang Panginoong Dios na CHRISTIAN.

    Kayo ay tinatawag na INC., hango sa piniling pangalan na itatawag sa inyo ng inyong pinuno.

    Ang panawagan ng Panginoon ay sa lahat nang mga nabibilang sa mga sekta na pinamumunuan ng mga lider ng pananampalataya (HER) na handang umalis, at magpakababa at magpasakop sa Kaniya.

    Ngeek!!

    Kaibigang Aida, that is only your personal opinion. Mali po kayo dyan. Makinig po kayo, ha.


    tanong: bakit sa dinami-dami ng relihiyon na dapat kong paniwalaan INC ang dapat kong sundin?

    Sapagkat ang tinubos ng dugo ng Panginoong Jesus ay ang kanyang Iglesia. May mababasa po ba tayong talata na Iglesia ni Cristo nga ang binili ng dugo ng Panginoong Jesus.

    Basahin po natin:


    Take heed therefore to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of Christ which He purchased with His own blood. (Acts 20:28, Lamsa Translation)

    Ingatan ninyo kung gayon ang inyong sarili at ang buong kawan, narito'y hinirang kayo ng espiritu santo bilang katiwala upang pakanin ang iglesia ni Cristo na binili niya ng kanyang sariling dugo. (Salin sa tagalog ng Gawa 20:28 Lamsa)


    Alin Iglesia ang binili ng sariling dugo ng Panginoong Jesucristo na sya nating dapat aniban upang maligtas? Maliwanag po ang itinuturo ng Biblia, ang Iglesia ni Cristo!

  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by aida View Post
    Dan 9:19 "O Lord (ang Panginoong Jesucristo ang nagiisang Panginoon - 1 Corinto 8:6b), hear; O Lord, forgive; O Lord, hearken and do; defer not, for thine own sake, O my God: for thy city and thy people are called by thy name."

    ETEs, ang "my people" na sinasabi ni Jesus sa Revelation 18:4 ay silang mga nakatakda Niyang piliin. Sila yaong sa kanilang mga puso ay hinahanap na tunay ang Dios; gusto Siyang makilalang tunay, at nagnanais na maunawaan ang Kaniyang mga salita. Sila, anomang oras at napasakop nang lubusan sa Kaniya, ay nakatakdang tawagin sa pangalan ng kanilang Panginoong Dios na CHRISTIAN.

    Kayo ay tinatawag na INC., hango sa piniling pangalan na itatawag sa inyo ng inyong pinuno.

    Ang panawagan ng Panginoon ay sa lahat nang mga nabibilang sa mga sekta na pinamumunuan ng mga lider ng pananampalataya (HER) na handang umalis, at magpakababa at magpasakop sa Kaniya.
    Ang layo ng personal interpretation mo sa prophetical pronouncement.

    Di mo ba makuha ang logic ng prophesy?

    Para maunawaan mo eh tingnan mo yung NEGATIVE na ipinakikita ng prophesy that pertain to the organization wherein God's people are in.

    Kapag nakita mo ang lahat ng negative that the prophesy states then compare which Church is the fulfillment...

    then you can see why they are called God's people and why come out? If they are God's people? if the organization is still God's organnization?

    Di nyo ba makuha ang logic nun?

    Revelation was written to predict the future of the Church of Christ and what will happen to the Church that Christ built in the first century...and the event that will take place in the future.

    Yan ang essence ng book Revelation.

  17. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by san andres View Post
    so in short, you are promoting non other than Felix Manalo himself?
    And his co-Ministers and workers based on the prophesy...

    Rev 7:3 saying, "Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees until we have sealed the bond-servants of our God on their foreheads."


    No question that Rev 7:2-3 will surely happen in the future and it happened in our time that a MAN from the rising of the sun has bring backed to life the Church in its original teachings for man salvation.

  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by thonycoors View Post
    Ngeek!!

    Kaibigang Aida, that is only your personal opinion. Mali po kayo dyan. Makinig po kayo, ha.

    tanong: bakit sa dinami-dami ng relihiyon na dapat kong paniwalaan INC ang dapat kong sundin?

    Sapagkat ang tinubos ng dugo ng Panginoong Jesus ay ang kanyang Iglesia. May mababasa po ba tayong talata na Iglesia ni Cristo nga ang binili ng dugo ng Panginoong Jesus.

    Basahin po natin:


    Take heed therefore to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of Christ which He purchased with His own blood. (Acts 20:28, Lamsa Translation)

    Ingatan ninyo kung gayon ang inyong sarili at ang buong kawan, narito'y hinirang kayo ng espiritu santo bilang katiwala upang pakanin ang iglesia ni Cristo na binili niya ng kanyang sariling dugo. (Salin sa tagalog ng Gawa 20:28 Lamsa)

    Kelan nagtayo ng relihiyon si Jesus? At kelan din Siya nagtayo ng gusali gaya ng kapilya?

    Acts 20:28 "Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost (JESUS CHRIST - 2 Corinthians 3:17) hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God (TAO NA "TEMPLO" AT PILI NG PANGINOON ANG PAKAKAININ, AT HINDI LITERAL NA "CHURCH"), which he hath purchased with his own blood.

    Alin Iglesia ang binili ng sariling dugo ng Panginoong Jesucristo na sya nating dapat aniban upang maligtas? Maliwanag po ang itinuturo ng Biblia, ang Iglesia ni Cristo!
    Kagagamit pa lang ni ETEs ng Apoclipsis 18:4 na pinaaalis ng Panginoon ang mga tao sa mga relihiyon at sekta, ngayon naman ay itinatayo mo ang samahang INC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ETEs View Post
    Di mo ba makuha ang logic ng prophesy?

    Di nyo ba makuha ang logic nun?
    Kolosas 2:8
    Kayo'y magsipagingat, baka sa inyo'y may bumihag sa pamamagitan ng kaniyang pilosopia at walang kabuluhang pagdaraya, ayon sa sali't saling sabi ng mga tao, ayon sa mga pasimulang aral ng sanglibutan, at di ayon kay Cristo:

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    Quote Originally Posted by aida View Post
    Kelan nagtayo ng relihiyon si Jesus? At kelan din Siya nagtayo ng gusali gaya ng kapilya?

    Acts 20:28 "Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost (JESUS CHRIST - 2 Corinthians 3:17) hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God (TAO NA "TEMPLO" AT PILI NG PANGINOON ANG PAKAKAININ, AT HINDI LITERAL NA "CHURCH"), which he hath purchased with his own blood.
    Aida, Jesus said I will built my Church di ba? Matthew 16:8

    Matthew 16:18 "And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church,..."

    Church is NOT a building if we will refer it to the bible.

    Church is an English word that denotes two meaning, body of Christ
    and another meaning is building or chapel.

    Biblically, it is the body of Christ....

    "Coloss 1:18 And He is the head of the body, the church"


    Quote Originally Posted by aida View Post
    Kagagamit pa lang ni ETEs ng Apoclipsis 18:4 na pinaaalis ng Panginoon ang mga tao sa mga relihiyon at sekta, ngayon naman ay itinatayo mo ang samahang INC?
    Para sa kaalaman ng marami, and in laymen terms: Yung Iglesia Ni Cristo na itinayo ni Cristo base sa history eh naging Catholic Church di ba?

    Itinayo ni Jesus ang Iglesia Ni Cristo para aniban ng tao, or man should and must become members of that body/organization for salvation at marami ngang naging members ang organization na yan in the first century and their main headquarters was in Jerusalem.

    Romans 12:4 For just as we have many members in one body and all the members do not have the same function,

    Romans 12:5 so we, who are many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another.

    1 Cor 12:12 For even as the body is one and yet has many members, and all the members of the body, though they are many, are one body, so also is Christ.

    1 Cor 12:14 For the body is not one member, but many.


    What is the proof that there is ONLY ONE ORGANIZATION kasi ng maging Catholic Church ang name, di ba ONE ORGANIZATION lang even now? And the main headquarters was moved to Rome? And became evil and apostatised Church na nga di ba?

    In the same manner The MESSENGER whom God will send will do the same organization, the Iglesia Ni Cristo, the main objective is to open once again the door of salvation to mankind, and invite people to enter and be members and be sealed to be saved.

    Revelation 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the rising of the sun, having the seal of the living God; and he cried out with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea,

    3 saying, "Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads."


    Other than that options that God offer to mankind, NO SALVATION AVAILABLE FOR MAN TO ENTER AND BE SAVED except be sealed by the MESSENGER that will originate from the rising of the sun.

    Hindi na natin mababago ang decision ng Dios, tayo ang dapat na sumunod sa gusto ng Dios na paraan ng salvation if we want to be saved..

    Ano nga uli ang sabi ng bible sa God's people that remains in the Catholic Church?

    Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.

    Take advantage of that offer by God, before its to late.

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