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    Exclamation PAGASA chief Nilo replaced by DOTC Usec Yumul

    08/06/2010 | 04:24 PM



    President Benigno Aquino III announced on Friday that he has removed Dr. Prisco D. Nilo from his post as director of the country’s weather bureau, the Philippine Atmospheric, Geophysical and Astronomical Services Administration (PAGASA).

    Aquino told reporters on Friday afternoon that Nilo had “differences" with his “immediate superior" in the Department of Science and Technology (DOST), the government agency directly supervising PAGASA.

    He did not name the "immediate superior," but a check with PAGASA showed that the agency is directly under the DOST undersecretary for research and development. The post is currently held by Graciano Yumul.

    A special order from Science and Technology Secretary Mario Montejo dated August 5 designated Undersecretary Yumul as PAGASA’s officer-in-charge, replacing Nilo.

    Nilo's removal came three weeks after Aquino reprimanded Pagasa for failing to predict that typhoon Basyang would ravage Metro Manila. Aquino said Nilo "never really bothered to explain" why Typhoon Basyang moved in a different direction.
    (See: Aquino reprimands PAGASA at Typhoon Basyang briefing)—Jam Sisante and Andreo C. Calonzo/JV, GMANews.TV

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    Nilo's removal came three weeks after Aquino reprimanded Pagasa for failing to predict that typhoon Basyang would ravage Metro Manila. Aquino said Nilo "never really bothered to explain" why Typhoon Basyang moved in a different direction.
    Nilo failed to predict that Basyang would hit Metro Manila on the night that PNoy's partying with the media... sheesh.

    I don't think PNoy understands what a weather forecasts meant...

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    Noynoy probably wants to appoint Madame Auring.

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    Well, he did say si Madame Auring na ang bahala sa lovelife nya... Mas may tiwala siya kay Madame Auring kaysa sa PAGASA na nagta-trabaho habang siyang nagpaparty.

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    i respect frisco nilo for his knowledge but he should have done the most with what PAGASA has.

    i understand the need for the most modern equipment pero for now, bakit hindi natin i-maximize kung ano ang meron tayo?

    kung kailangang mag-improvise ng mga equipment ng meron tayo o magtyaga sa mga traditional na pamamaraan sa weather forecasting, so be it, they should and must do it.

    well, kung ano ang kalagayan ng PAGASA ngayon, resulta yan ng ilang dekada ng pangungurakot sa at pagpapabaya ng National Government.

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    Aanhin pa natin ngayon kung magkakaron ng updated equipments ang PAGASA? Wala nung magagaling na tao sa PAGASA. Kung incompetent sila, bakit pinipirata sila ng ibang bansa para sa kanila magtrabaho?

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    ^ para mo na ring sinabi na walang silbi ang mga college at university sa Pilipinas na mag-produce na magagaling na future Filipino scientists.

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    ^ parang hindi mo na-gets yung sinabi ko...

    I meant, contrary to what Noynoy says na incompetent ang meteorologists natin, they're good kaya sila hina-hire ng ibang bansa.

    para mo na ring sinabi na walang silbi ang mga college at university sa Pilipinas na mag-produce na magagaling na future Filipino scientists.
    ..is totally unrelated to my post above hrmm.. pero sige, magagaling nga sila. isa pang problema kaya magkakashortage tayo ng experts sa PAGASA, wala masyadong nag-aaral sa kolehiyo para doon at sa ibang sciences. Karamihan ng kabataan, nursing ng nursing ang kinukuha

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    Sucking the Weather Forcaster is not fair. The answer is that no human can solve such a problem. The mathematics involved are too complex. The task is not too much for computer, however. Computers can perform a series of calculations in a few hours that would take a meteorologist his or her whole lifetime to finish.

    The accuracy of numerical weather predictions depend primarily on two factors. First, the more data that is available to a computer the more accurate its results. Second, the faster the speed of the computer the more calculations it can perform and the more accurate its report will be.

    In the period from 1955 (when computers were first used in weather forecasting) to the current time, the percent skill of forecasts has improved from about 30% to more than 60%. The percent skill measure was invented to describe the likelihood that a weather forecast will be better than pure chance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AAA111 View Post
    ^ parang hindi mo na-gets yung sinabi ko...

    I meant, contrary to what Noynoy says na incompetent ang meteorologists natin, they're good kaya sila hina-hire ng ibang bansa.



    ..is totally unrelated to my post above hrmm.. pero sige, magagaling nga sila. isa pang problema kaya magkakashortage tayo ng experts sa PAGASA, wala masyadong nag-aaral sa kolehiyo para doon at sa ibang sciences. Karamihan ng kabataan, nursing ng nursing ang kinukuha
    ang punto ko, kung gusto talaga nila, let them be pirated by other countries dahil makaka-pag produce pa tayo ng magagaling na meteorologists.

    hindi mauubusan ang mga la nina, el nino, typhoon at kung anu-ano pang weather disturbances na dadaan sa Pilipinas na hahasa sa kaalaman at galing ng mga meteorologist natin patungkol sa weather forecasting.

    again, it's a fact na ang mga scientist ay hindi nanggagaling sa karamihan, sa halip nagmumula sila sa iilan na may talino, galing at dedikasyon na angkop sa gayong profession.

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    Repent you savages! Repent! ach_choo's Avatar
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    You people are suddenly sympathetic with PAGASA people but you howl at them like dogs everytime a storm comes in.

    I'm continually amazed at how stupid this generation is when it comes to basic things. Now people are trained to blame everything on the Government by default.

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    RP loses top meteorologist to continuing ‘brain drain’ (Canada. Australia) tsk tsk http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=25589

    (In America) The Median annual wages of atmospheric scientists in May 2008 were $81,290. (P3,658,050 per year or P 304,837 /month)

    The middle 50 percent earned between $55,140 and $101,340. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $38,990, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $127,100.

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    diba geologist si Dr. G.Yumul? bakit siya ilalagay sa PAG-ASA eh mas bagay siya sa PHIVOCS

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    I was about to create a thread about this, naunahan lang ako ni ts..hehehe!

    I can't wait for PNoy's 100 days to be over..I'm so sure that there are hordes of people already just waiting for this dude's honeymoon period to be over and attack him and his stupid, arrogant, "bunch of amateur" team.

    Whoever told him or gave him an advice to sack Prisco Nilo is STUPID! BUT if this was all his decision and no one told him to fire the poor guy..then he's not thinking right

    Pambihira! kawawa naman yung mama, ilang taong nagsilbi at nagsakripisyo sa bayan natin yung tao, nang dahil lang dito sa mga dahilan na ito TINANGGAL NIYA YUNG TAO! winner talaga 'tong taong 'to!

    ALAM BA NIYA KUNG IILAN NA LANG WEATHER FORECASTERS NATIN SA BANSA??? AT ALAM BA NIYA KUNG ILAN NA LANG SILANG SENIOR WEATHER FORECASTER SA PAG-ASA?? iilan na nga lang sila nag papirata pa yung isa! tapos gantong desisyon pa ginawa niya!!!

    kulang na nga sa pondo ang buong ahensya, sahod at benepisyo yung mga empleyado, ganitong tratamento pa makukuha nila sa malacanang! wala bang nag-iisip ng tama sa team nila?!

    reasons given out by malacanang why PNoy sacked Dr. Prisco Nilo:

    1. Pag-asa's inaccurate weather forcast re: typhoon basyang
    2. The poor guy has irreconcilable differences with his immediate supervisor and lastly;
    3. WALANG CESO YUNG TAO!

    -->galeng diba? let's give our president a round of applause! ang ganda at tamang tama itong desisyong ginawa niya.

    I hope walang pulitika behind this decision that he made.

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    ^ walang politika, emotions lang. sheesh ang babaw ng reasons.parang nagta-tantrums lang si PNoy. "Ayoko sa'yo! Hindi mo sinabing babagyo... Waaah! Alis ka dyan!"

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    dapat ang mga incompetent na gaya ni Noynoy ang sinisibak eh

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    mad 'bout shiri appleby cretinous00's Avatar
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    jun yumul is my brod. the position is mostly adminstrative. and he has enough basic knowledge. after all, most of the weather forecasters didin't finish meteorology (meron bang course na ganon dito?) forecasters are trained here and abroad. they're about as good as forecasters can get.

    and in this age of internet, international tracking and data sharing, outdated equipment is a non-issue. accuracy in weather forecasting is not for the public to decide. when the station says it will rain, don't expect it to rain where you happen to be during that day. no forecaster is that good. and when a storm hits land, there's basically no way you can guess where it's going to carrom around the countryside.

    better to act on your own common sense if you have any. when the station says scattered rainshowers, bring an umbrella. when a storm's approaching, stay home and check your house. don't take a long trip.

    and if you're foollish enough to build a house at a local dip in the land or beside a small creek, dumanyu!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAA111 View Post
    Aanhin pa natin ngayon kung magkakaron ng updated equipments ang PAGASA? Wala nung magagaling na tao sa PAGASA. Kung incompetent sila, bakit pinipirata sila ng ibang bansa para sa kanila magtrabaho?
    Marahil hindi sila pinipirata. The average salary for meteorologists employed by the Federal Government (US) was $93,661 in March 2009.
    In peso (P4,214,745 kada taon or P351,228 kada buwan)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cretinous00 View Post
    jun yumul is my brod. the position is mostly adminstrative. and he has enough basic knowledge. after all, most of the weather forecasters didin't finish meteorology (meron bang course na ganon dito?) forecasters are trained here and abroad. they're about as good as forecasters can get.

    and in this age of internet, international tracking and data sharing, outdated equipment is a non-issue. accuracy in weather forecasting is not for the public to decide. when the station says it will rain, don't expect it to rain where you happen to be during that day. no forecaster is that good. and when a storm hits land, there's basically no way you can guess where it's going to carrom around the countryside.

    better to act on your own common sense if you have any. when the station says scattered rainshowers, bring an umbrella. when a storm's approaching, stay home and check your house. don't take a long trip.

    and if you're foollish enough to build a house at a local dip in the land or beside a small creek, dumanyu!
    nasa grad school ang course na meteorologist. MS at PhD in Meteorology

    http://www.iesm.upd.edu.ph/academics.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by cretinous00 View Post
    jun yumul is my brod. the position is mostly adminstrative. and he has enough basic knowledge. after all, most of the weather forecasters didin't finish meteorology (meron bang course na ganon dito?) forecasters are trained here and abroad. they're about as good as forecasters can get.

    and in this age of internet, international tracking and data sharing, outdated equipment is a non-issue. accuracy in weather forecasting is not for the public to decide. when the station says it will rain, don't expect it to rain where you happen to be during that day. no forecaster is that good. and when a storm hits land, there's basically no way you can guess where it's going to carrom around the countryside.

    better to act on your own common sense if you have any. when the station says scattered rainshowers, bring an umbrella. when a storm's approaching, stay home and check your house. don't take a long trip.

    and if you're foollish enough to build a house at a local dip in the land or beside a small creek, dumanyu!
    My kursong Meteorology sa University of the Philippines .
    The Department of Meteorology and Oceanography offers advanced courses leading to the following graduate degrees: (a) DIPLOMA IN METEOROLOGY; (b) MASTER OF SCIENCE(METEOROLOGY): (c) MASTER OF SCIENCE (PHYSICAL METEOROLOGY); (d) DOCTOR OF PHILOSOPHY (METEOROLOGY).
    http://weather.ou.edu/~spark/AMON/UP.html

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