Atheists/Agnostics in DLSU

[nacho04]

[QUOTE=Asmodai;47685562]Problema ko rin ang marriage. My family is uber-religious, so my lack of belief is hidden from them. If I ever have a family, I know I'll be pressured to raise my kids to be Catholic and say all that "papa Jesus loves you" stuff just to please my parents, and I can't find it in myself to do that. [QUOTE=meicon]

OMG. Sobrang pareho tayo. At my age (turning 21 this year), I still get scolded when I don't attend mass and when I don't join them in praying the rosary. Can't tell them outright that I'm no longer practicing any religion, Roman Catholicism for that matter. As religious people usually are, my family is a narrow-minded bunch. They wouldn't understand me for sure. I would just be subject to ridicule.

TBH marami akong alam na nonbeliever. The ones I know tend to be the geeky, individualistic, introverted types.

Parang kabaligtaran ko lahat yan ah. LOL

[Asmodai]

OMG. Sobrang pareho tayo. At my age (turning 21 this year), I still get scolded when I don't attend mass and when I don't join them in praying the rosary. Can't tell them outright that I'm no longer practicing any religion, Roman Catholicism for that matter. As religious people usually are, my family is a narrow-minded bunch. They wouldn't understand me for sure. I would just be subject to ridicule.

Exactly. It's also why I keep mum when they discuss religion and the like at the dinner table. I think my 'rents would sooner have a gay son than one that's a heathen, LOL Probably try to exorcise me too

[lneliouchiora]

Ako rin, sobrang gusto ko mga Philo classes. I was initiated into this thing because of Intfilo. I love Sartre! I adore him so much I want one of his quotes etched permanently on my left shoulder.

Question, guys. Naiisip n'yo ba yung future n'yo? Sa pag-aasawa, dapat ba yung partner n'yo kapareho n'yo ng paniniwala? Feeling ko, mahirap makahanap ng ganito (kung nasa Pilipinas ka). Wala akong kakilalang kapareho ko. Well, meron akong crush na agnostic din kaso di kami close.</3

Paano palalakihin ang mga anak? Sa catholic school ba papapasukin? Tapos kung papalakihin sila in an agnostic way, di kaya sila i-condemn sa school?

Pati sa career, kino-consider ko yan eh. I recently graduated and I'm still not sure which path to take. I'm thinking that if I build my career in the foreign service, I will just stay single and I don't mind being one for the rest of my life. I don't want to raise my kids here because of the predominance of religion. However, what if someone who's amazing comes along? Should I drag him out of the country and convince him to build our lives abroad?

Ako, naisip ko narin 'yan. Plan ko is mag-settle nalang abroad after makaipon.
Isang tanong sa isipan ko na wala pang kasagutan eh kung pwede wala nalang religion. I mean, officially, wala kang religion (dito sa Philippines). Kasi kung magiging "catholic" or what not ka parin by name, hindi ba magiging kumplikado 'yun if ever magka-anak ka nga?

I'm excited sa mga magiging philo classes ko. Kung pwede lang i trade 'yung mga TRED para dun eh. LOL.
Tska nga pala, panao kayo nagsurvive sa TRED? Hindi ko pa siya nagiging subject pero any tips or pieces of advice on how to cruise along the subject? Pati pala on how to deal with professors.

Gusto ko rin maka-meet ng iba pang tao sa school. RE: org, kahit informal group lang, pwede na eh.

[Caloy_]

OMG. Sobrang pareho tayo. At my age (turning 21 this year), I still get scolded when I don't attend mass and when I don't join them in praying the rosary. Can't tell them outright that I'm no longer practicing any religion, Roman Catholicism for that matter. As religious people usually are, my family is a narrow-minded bunch. They wouldn't understand me for sure. I would just be subject to ridicule.

Exactly. It's also why I keep mum when they discuss religion and the like at the dinner table. I think my 'rents would sooner have a gay son than one that's a heathen, LOL Probably try to exorcise me too

I guess I'm pretty lucky that my immediate family isn't all that religious. They're still believers, I think, but we don't go to church or pray or anything like that.

Tska nga pala, panao kayo nagsurvive sa TRED? Hindi ko pa siya nagiging subject pero any tips or pieces of advice on how to cruise along the subject? Pati pala on how to deal with professors.

Gusto ko rin maka-meet ng iba pang tao sa school. RE: org, kahit informal group lang, pwede na eh.

I say just be yourself in TRED. I never hid my non-belief from any of my professors. In fact, I probably mentioned it in every written activity assigned to us. It's not like they can fail you if you don't believe.

As for the possibility of a meet-up, I'm totally up for it.

[nacho04]

Exactly. It's also why I keep mum when they discuss religion and the like at the dinner table. I think my 'rents would sooner have a gay son than one that's a heathen, LOL Probably try to exorcise me too

How old are you? When are you planning to "come out" re your lack of religion? Speaking of coming out, I think gays should shun religion. It's non-sense to be part of something that condemns your lifestyle.

Anyway, coming out is my problem also. Ayoko ng magsimba tuwing linggo at makunsume sa mga baluktot na sermon ng pare. At kailangan ko pang magsinungaling sa tatay ko na araw-araw kong dala-dala yung Lord of Pardon na binigay nya sakin. Sobrang loser ko grabe.

[lneliouchiora]

^^ Pero what if 'yung maging prof ko 'dun eh 'yung parang sinabi ni popoo2121, na galit sa mga hindi naniniwala. Baka sobrang bugbog naman kami nun. Puro parinigan and stuff. sensitive issue pa man din ito.

Nag-sesearch ako ng mga libro sa lib na about non-belief and stuff pero (un)suprisingly, wala akong makita. Saan ba pwedeng makahiram?

RE: meet up, ok lang naman. Pwedeng maging exchange of ideas and stuff. Sana lang 'di lang ako ang ID 110.

[nacho04]

Ako, naisip ko narin 'yan. Plan ko is mag-settle nalang abroad after makaipon.
Isang tanong sa isipan ko na wala pang kasagutan eh kung pwede wala nalang religion. I mean, officially, wala kang religion (dito sa Philippines). Kasi kung magiging "catholic" or what not ka parin by name, hindi ba magiging kumplikado 'yun if ever magka-anak ka nga?

I'm excited sa mga magiging philo classes ko. Kung pwede lang i trade 'yung mga TRED para dun eh. LOL.
Tska nga pala, panao kayo nagsurvive sa TRED? Hindi ko pa siya nagiging subject pero any tips or pieces of advice on how to cruise along the subject? Pati pala on how to deal with professors.

Gusto ko rin maka-meet ng iba pang tao sa school. RE: org, kahit informal group lang, pwede na eh.

Oo, mukang mahirap nga yung sa anak. Dito sa Pilipinas, ang mga magagandang schools eh private. Karamihan sa mga private schools, Catholic. Maiindoctrinate talaga yung mga bata.

This reminds me of discrimination in school admissions. Do you remember when Aiai Delas Alas' child was denied of enrollment because he/she was an illegitimate child? How much more if the child was not baptized? Baka gumulong na yung mga madre. "This child will go to hell"!

[Caloy_]

^^ Pero what if 'yung maging prof ko 'dun eh 'yung parang sinabi ni popoo2121, na galit sa mga hindi naniniwala. Baka sobrang bugbog naman kami nun. Puro parinigan and stuff. sensitive issue pa man din ito.

Nag-sesearch ako ng mga libro sa lib na about non-belief and stuff pero (un)suprisingly, wala akong makita. Saan ba pwedeng makahiram?

RE: meet up, ok lang naman. Pwedeng maging exchange of ideas and stuff. Sana lang 'di lang ako ang ID 110.

Grievance na yun! Haha. Maging respectful ka lang sa mga prof na ganyan. Magdisagree ka kung talagang tinanong ka or kung para sa requirement. Wag mo na awayin sa discussion. Haha. Anyway, opinion ka lang yan.

Makibasa ka na lang sa Power Books. The God Delusion ni Richard Dawkins malupit. Meron ako Atheist Universe ni David Mills maganda rin. Mahal nga lang. Sa YouTube maraming ring mga video na pang nonbeliever.

[nacho04]

^^ Pero what if 'yung maging prof ko 'dun eh 'yung parang sinabi ni popoo2121, na galit sa mga hindi naniniwala. Baka sobrang bugbog naman kami nun. Puro parinigan and stuff. sensitive issue pa man din ito.

Nag-sesearch ako ng mga libro sa lib na about non-belief and stuff pero (un)suprisingly, wala akong makita. Saan ba pwedeng makahiram?

RE: meet up, ok lang naman. Pwedeng maging exchange of ideas and stuff. Sana lang 'di lang ako ang ID 110.

Why not give the professor what he/she wants to hear?

Sayang. Bakit ngayon lang nagkaroon ng ganito? ID106 ako eh.

[Caloy_]

Why not give the professor what he/she wants to hear?

Sayang. Bakit ngayon lang nagkaroon ng ganito? ID106 ako eh.

Oo nga e! 106 din ako pero Eng kaya may dalawang trimester pa ko bago grumaduate.

[lneliouchiora]

Grievance na yun! Haha. Maging respectful ka lang sa mga prof na ganyan. Magdisagree ka kung talagang tinanong ka or kung para sa requirement. Wag mo na awayin sa discussion. Haha. Anyway, opinion ka lang yan.

Makibasa ka na lang sa Power Books. The God Delusion ni Richard Dawkins malupit. Meron ako Atheist Universe ni David Mills maganda rin. Mahal nga lang. Sa YouTube maraming ring mga video na pang nonbeliever.

'Yun nga. Ibang usapan na kung personalan. LOL.

I already have The God Delusion. Nabili ko siya sa NBS na nag-iisa nalang! Grabe, napabili ako nang wala sa oras.
Yeah, sa YT na nga lang rin ako nanonood. BTW, may binibisita rin akong site na puro pinoy din, though lurker lang ako. Interesting naman siya. FFT.

Oo, mukang mahirap nga yung sa anak. Dito sa Pilipinas, ang mga magagandang schools eh private. Karamihan sa mga private schools, Catholic. Maiindoctrinate talaga yung mga bata.

This reminds me of discrimination in school admissions. Do you remember when Aiai Delas Alas' child was denied of enrollment because he/she was an illegitimate child? How much more if the child was not baptized? Baka gumulong na yung mga madre. "This child will go to hell"!

'Yun nga eh. Buti sana kung may non-sectarian private school na sobrang ganda. Kaya sana eh gumanda ang public school educ. dito.

Why not give the professor what he/she wants to hear?

Sayang. Bakit ngayon lang nagkaroon ng ganito? ID106 ako eh.

Wow, 106.
Siguro kasi mas napapagusapan na siya ngayon unlike years ago.

[Asmodai]

How old are you? When are you planning to "come out" re your lack of religion? Speaking of coming out, I think gays should shun religion. It's non-sense to be part of something that condemns your lifestyle.

Anyway, coming out is my problem also. Ayoko ng magsimba tuwing linggo at makunsume sa mga baluktot na sermon ng pare. At kailangan ko pang magsinungaling sa tatay ko na araw-araw kong dala-dala yung Lord of Pardon na binigay nya sakin. Sobrang loser ko grabe.

I honestly don't know. I might just end up giving my parents heart attacks if I did.

Grievance na yun! Haha. Maging respectful ka lang sa mga prof na ganyan. Magdisagree ka kung talagang tinanong ka or kung para sa requirement. Wag mo na awayin sa discussion. Haha. Anyway, opinion ka lang yan.

Makibasa ka na lang sa Power Books. The God Delusion ni Richard Dawkins malupit. Meron ako Atheist Universe ni David Mills maganda rin. Mahal nga lang. Sa YouTube maraming ring mga video na pang nonbeliever.

Haven't read the God Delusion yet. I'm a fan of Michael Shermer (the founding editor of Skeptic magazine) too.

and 106 din ako.

[nacho04]

Wow, 106.
Siguro kasi mas napapagusapan na siya ngayon unlike years ago.

Loko ka ah! Anong years ago? 2009 lang ako nag-grad. LOL

Just wondering kung ako lang ang babae dito. I think girls are less inclined to be non-believers.

[Caloy_]

I already have The God Delusion. Nabili ko siya sa NBS na nag-iisa nalang! Grabe, napabili ako nang wala sa oras.

Di ka naman siguro nagsisi sa pagbili?

Haven't read the God Delusion yet. I'm a fan of Michael Shermer (the founding editor of Skeptic magazine) too.

and 106 din ako.

The God Delusion is great. Does Shermer write books?

Marami na rin akong napanood na documentaries: The Root of All Evil, The Enemies of Reason, The Genius of Charles Darwin, lahat yan si Richard Dawkins. Maganda rin yung Religulous ni Bill Maher. Nakakatawa.

[Asmodai]

^ Yeah. "Why People Believe Weird Things" and "The Science of Good and Evil" are examples.

He has a youtube channel too, you can check it out. He concentrates less on God though and tends to talk of skepticism in general, such as with the pseudosciences

[lneliouchiora]

Loko ka ah! Anong years ago? 2009 lang ako nag-grad. LOL

Just wondering kung ako lang ang babae dito. I think girls are less inclined to be non-believers.

LOL. I meant no insult 'dun. Sorry po.

Di ka naman siguro nagsisi sa pagbili?



The God Delusion is great. Does Shermer write books?

Marami na rin akong napanood na documentaries: The Root of All Evil, The Enemies of Reason, The Genius of Charles Darwin, lahat yan si Richard Dawkins. Maganda rin yung Religulous ni Bill Maher. Nakakatawa.

Sadly, 'di ko pa siya nabubuklat ngayon because of school works. Sana magkaroon na ako ng free time (w/c I doubt) -_-

I have yet to watch the root of all evil. Naka bookmark pa siya sa akin hanggang ngayon.
Maganda rin 'yung The Blind Watchmaker and 'yung A Brief History of Disbelief. Nagkaroon ako ng konting idea about the history and development of non-belief.

[Gospel of Judas]

accredited org for agnostics/atheists? you won't make it past the cso. can't see a catholic university permitting such. even with la salle's freedom culture, the university is still conservative about some things. so yeah just make it underground

[nacho04]

Would like to share this link. It's so intelligently funny. Even theists would agree with this.

[Caloy_]

accredited org for agnostics/atheists? you won't make it past the cso. can't see a catholic university permitting such. even with la salle's freedom culture, the university is still conservative about some things. so yeah just make it underground

Somebody make this happen! Spread the word! Haha

Would like to share this link. It's so intelligently funny. Even theists would agree with this.

That's awesome. The bible is seriously messed up.

[lneliouchiora]

Hindi naman macla-classify as frat or what not ang group if ever?

BTW, I saw Christopher Hitchens in CNN kanina. He has cancer pala and his hair is already gone (probably from chemo). He said na if ever may lumabas na kwento na he retracted in his deathbed, don't believe it.