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  1. #201
    Lim suffers dad's pain in leaving Red Lions
    By Joaquin Henson
    http://www.philstar.com/thedeanscorn...oryid=69<br />

    MANILA, Philippines - Resigned San Beda Red Lions basketball coach Frankie Lim said yesterday leaving the varsity in the wake of a two-year NCAA ban for engaging San Sebastian volleyball coach Roger Gorayeb in an out-of-league brawl will mean a painful estrangement from his son Melo who is ending his collegiate career this coming season.

    “You can’t imagine how this hurts,” said the 52-year-old Lim who has piloted San Beda to four NCAA titles in the last five campaigns. “Melo’s 21 and he’s graduating in October. I won’t be on the bench to see him play out his career. After three years, I’ve given him the chance to start and now, he’s hoping to show what he can do with more playing time. It’s not just a coach’s pain but also a father’s pain.”

    Melo is Lim’s second to the youngest child with wife Olen. Their youngest is Tyler, 8.

    At the moment, Lim said he’s not sure what to do next after resigning his post at San Beda. “I’m hoping to stay involved with basketball,” said Lim who saw action in 15 seasons in the PBA up to 1996. “In the meantime, I’ll take a long rest from all the stress I’ve experienced and spend quality time with my family. I spoke with Mr. MVP (Manny V. Pangilinan) before I tendered my resignation and he understood my situation. I don’t know if going back to the PBA is an option because Aboy (Castro) is doing a great job with Talk ‘N’ Text as team manager and coach Norman (Black) is taking over from coach Chot (Reyes) at the end of the season.”

    Lim said the incident with Gorayeb was unfortunate but under the circumstances, he could do no less. “As far as I’m concerned, I did three things – first, I protected my school, second, I protected my player who was subjected to an insulting racial slur and third, I protected myself because I got punched,” said Lim. “I don’t think the ban was justified. It was very unfair. I don’t think the NCAA Management Committee that investigated the incident took into account or gave me credit for averting what could have been a more explosive situation.”

    Lim said the incident happened in the San Beda gym after a practice with his team. “I was eating alone in the café behind the gym when one of my players Ola (Adeogun) came to me complaining he was called a monkey by some San Sebastian volleyball players,” he related. “So I talked to the players and told them to leave the gym which they did. I told them to respect our school. I spoke civilly. The security guards led them out. I didn’t want any trouble particularly since they were our guests at San Beda. But their coach (Gorayeb) went back to the gym because he had a game with the women’s team. I don’t know that coach from Adam but he kept cursing. I followed him back into the gym then he turned around and punched me. I have a tape that showed what happened. I didn’t start it. My action was purely reactionary. You know me, I don’t back down from a fight especially if I get punched first. So I hit back.”

    Lim said the Management Committee went overboard in meting out penalties. “This was a personal thing,” he said. “Why will you apply rules relevant to a game? It wasn’t like a bench-clearing free-for-all because no game was being played. I can understand a ban for something that is premeditated but this fell on my lap while I was eating alone and you just have to do what you have to do. I felt the penalties were too harsh. If you look at the composition of the Management Committee, you’ll notice the representatives are from St. Benilde, Letran, Jose Rizal, Mapua and Perpetual. In my five years with San Beda, we beat Benilde in nine of 10 games, the only exception was when they won a protest because Sam (Ekwe) wore a different uniform but we won that game on the court by about 30 points. In 12 or 13 games, Letran beat us only once. Jose Rizal beat us thrice in 12 games, Mapua twice in 12 games and Perpetual none in 10 games. Did they judge on the basis of if you can’t beat them, ban them?”

    Lim said the decision was regressive and smacked of crab mentality. “I was told the Management Committee doesn’t like me but do they really know me?” he continued. “Was I singled out because I’ve built a winning program at San Beda? The decision by the Policy Board to ban foreigners is also regressive and discriminatory. How would you like it if the US NCAA banned Filipinos or Fil-Ams from playing in the league? Instead of teams trying to be competitive, they pull you down. We had a sweep in 2010 and lost only twice last season so maybe, they want to even things up.”


    Lim said he will cherish every moment of his five years as San Beda coach. “First, I wish to thank Mr. MVP for the opportunity, second, my school for allowing me the chance to give back, third, to the San Beda community for the support, love and encouragement and of course, my wife Olen and my family,” he said. “My heartfelt thanks to the San Beda boosters. I leave with the satisfaction of having made the San Beda community happy and proud of our achievements.”

  2. #202
    [QUOTE=kingnamo_69;62138176]ehm ehm ehm. just wanna know lahat ba ng tao dito na nagreact sa racial discrimination e talaga bang concern sa issue or concern sa team nila na magiging weak ang team nila pag wala tong mga player nato? hirap kasi sa ibang tao dito na ginawa ng habit ang mag recruit ng foreign player kaya naging masyadong dependent sa kanila. e kung magaling talaga yung team bakit masyadong affected

    Malalim ang issue mababaw pananaw mo

  3. #203
    On banning foreigners
    THE GAME OF MY LIFE By Bill Velasco (The Philippine Star) Updated April 09, 2012
    On Banning Foreigners

    There is a move being discussed to ban foreigners from playing in the NCAA. Apparently, the recent success of the San Beda Red Lions after 28 years of futility has supposedly accelerated a surge in recruitment of African or African-American basketball players.

    It would be impracticable to speculate on the motive behind the ban. Some say that it is because the Red Lions have been so dominating, tallying five men’s basketball titles (one with Koy Banal as head coach and four with Frankie Lim) and one runner-up finish in the last six years. Some say it is more of a preventive measure to abrogate the dynasty and prevent a flood of non-Filipinos from taking scholarships or roster spots from homegrown students not just in basketball, but in all sports. Ironically, last season, Lim made it a point not to field his American center and former Most Valuable Player Sudan Daniel even after Daniel had recovered from a knee injury. Lim proved he could win a championship all-Filipino.

    In the United States, having foreign students compete in university sports, particularly track and field and swimming, has been a common practice since before World War II. Some of these athletes have even changed their citizenships to compete in the Olympics for their adopted home lands. The worst case was the sudden change of middle distance runner Zola Budd’s citizenship from South African to British so she could run against Mary Decker of the US in 1984. In the final Budd, who ran barefoot, tripped Decker and was injured herself. Neither placed.

    Technically speaking, all students at a college or university have the same rights, the right to the same quality of education, facilities and scholarships, though in some countries, the scholarships allotted for foreign students are limited. Therefore, a student who pays tuition and/or has an outstanding ability, whether it be scholastic or athletic, deserves a scholarship, regardless of his nationality. The rationale is simple, if they are better than other students and wish to represent their school, then they should get the scholarship.

    Eleven years ago, when ABS-CBN Sports was auditioning courtside reporters for the UAAP broadcast, we came upon a very articulate and basketball-savvy Ethiopian student from Far Eastern University named Iyanuloluwa Adewuya. Iyan, as he was called, was actually taking political studies, but liked basketball. For those of us conducting the auditions, his nationality was never an issue. He was among the best we had auditioned from all the UAAP schools that year. He got the job.

    I once had several conversations with Detlef Schrempf, the first German-born player to go through the US college system. Schrempf, who redefined the sixth man role for the Seattle Supersonics and the Portland Trailblazers, said he had guarded every member of the original Dream Team through his career. Detlef, who was conducting basketball clinics in the Philippines, said studying in America made a big difference in his life, and he decided to live in Seattle when he retired from the NBA. Needless to say, the All-Star’s contributions to basketball may not have been so pronounced had he not been successful in college in the first place.

    Of course, there have also been unsuccessful attempts to recruit foreign student-athletes, such as the case of Ma Jian’s younger brother, Ma Ming, who couldn’t overcome the language barrier and other challenges in trying to get a spot for the Ateneo Blue Eagles back in the 1990’s. The older Ma was one of the last players cut by the Utah Jazz at the time.

    Worldwide, schools are recruiting talent wherever it is. Japeth Aguilar of the Talk N Text Tropang Texters was recruited by four schools in the US NCAA after his father, former Ginebra player Peter, showed his UAAP highlight reel around. Japeth suited up for the Division 1 Western Kentucky University Hilltoppers, playing alongside future Orlando Magic NBA draft pick Courtney Lee. Another Ateneo product, 6-9 former Blue Eaglet Gian Chiu, got a scholarship at Desert Christian High School in California, then opted to play Division III ball for Oberlin College in Ohio. Chiu, who plans to be a doctor after his basketball career, is back in the Philippines looking for a roster spot on a PBA D-League team prior to entering the draft. Neither of them would have gotten those opportunities for education and training had the US NCAA decided to ban foreigners.

    Considering the two recent racism issues our national football teams the Azkals and Volcanoes have just experienced, a move to ban foreigners would be a step backwards. Why not embrace the talent that comes our way and make use of it? Foreign students would not be able to play professional in any team sport in the Philippines, anyway. If they have an innate skill that they may use to benefit their school and earn them a scholarship, why deny them that? If they grew up in a country where that particular sport is played at a higher level than in the Philippines, why not take advantage of the technology transfer? Wasn’t that the whole point of having Fil-foreign players, anyway? Besides, as earlier stated, they are pigeonholed into just playing out the maximum five years of eligibility at university.

    Politically, foreign students are not as organized and don’t have the numbers to challenge a ban. If the ban was indeed spurred by basketball, what about the Korean students who can lead the way in taekwondo, or other African nationals who may be assets as runners, or some European students who may bring in their advanced skills in soccer? They’ve already paid their dues mastering the sport growing up. Why tax them for not being from the Philippines? We would also be depriving our own students of their potential improvement. In essence, we would be rewarding mediocrity.

    Frankly, that’s neither very democratic, nor very Filipino.

  4. #204
    Ganda ng article. Natumbok ni bill velasco.

    hindi ba dapat ang ganitong uri ng pagiisip/lohika ay nanggagaling sa isang academician tulad nung pari mula sa letran?

    Kung ikukumpara nyo ang article na ito ni bill velasco at yung mga naging dahilan ni padre lana, mapapailing ka nalang talaga.

  5. #205
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  6. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by GWARDYA View Post
    Ganda ng article. Natumbok ni bill velasco.

    hindi ba dapat ang ganitong uri ng pagiisip/lohika ay nanggagaling sa isang academician tulad nung pari mula sa letran?

    Kung ikukumpara nyo ang article na ito ni bill velasco at yung mga naging dahilan ni padre lana, mapapailing ka nalang talaga.

    pagiisip? that's mission impossible.
    Last edited by pgma; Apr 9, 2012 at 06:17 PM.

  7. #207
    Actually, dapat talaga equal rights when in comes to education and sports. Wala dapat issue if your a foreigner or a local student wanting to play for your school, you an athletic individual who want to use you skills and talent to earn you your education. I don't know whats with this issue of banning foreign students/athelete. Our country wants foreigner to visit as tourist but they are showing discrimination toward student athletes. Come to think of it, those students come here to play and study. Travelling far from their homeland and their relatives. And as Filipinos, we must show some compassion towards them, more understading and let them feel they are welcome. they did not come here for trouble, they come here to play and study. Di ba nga maraming pinoy sa ibang bansa who are given opportunity to be successfull.

  8. #208
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    dapat kasi umalis na ang san beda sa ncaa.

  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by lovejones View Post
    dapat kasi umalis na ang san beda sa ncaa.
    Kami na lang ang natitirang founding member ng NCAA. Kung ayaw nila samin sila umalis

  10. #210
    ^Agree, if they cannot cope up with the rising level of competition...get out and look for their same kind. Beda is already an institution in the NCAA before we are born, and no body have the rights to push them out from the league they hlep establised....

  11. #211
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    Hmmm, this article just brings out the double standards of some Pinoys.

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-fi...s-pinoy-nurses

    MANILA, Philippines - The Philippine Embassy in Washington DC issued a statement calling on a councilmember of the District of Columbia to apologize to Filipino nurses.

    "He owes Filipino nurses an apology for his recent tirade," said Philippine Ambassador to the United States Jose Cuisia Jr.

    Cuisia was reacting to a remark made by Councilmember Marion Barry about Filipino nurses.

    According to the Washington Post, Barry was quoted as saying that he wanted more residents to become nurses so that hospitals wouldn't have to rely on "immigrants", particularly from the Philippines.

    "The remarks of District of Columbia Councilmember Marion Barry criticizing local hospitals for hiring Filipino nurses are deplorable," Cuisia said.

    However, the same report on Washington Post also quoted Barry as saying there was nothing negative about his statement.

    The ambassador said it was not the first time that Barry made such "intolerant and narrow-minded comments".

    "Just three weeks ago, he made the prejudiced observation that Asian-owned businesses were 'dirty shops'," said Cuisia.

    He added, "Councilmember Barry’s penchant for blaming Asians, who only want to work for their American dream, fuels racism, discrimination, and violence. Such rhetoric does nothing but harm relations among community members, when the times call for developing relationships and finding solutions to common challenges”.

    Cuisia said the Philippine nursing profession grew to become a major player in the global healthcare market when it became the biggest supplier of registered nurses due to the global nursing shortage.

    "Filipino nurses are known to be competent, hardworking, caring, and possess good work ethic. These are some of the reasons why most patients prefer and trust them. Like many good citizens, they pay their taxes and contribute to the American economy"..

    Ang bilis umalma sa mga ganyan abroad pero pag dating dito especially the NCAA..............

  12. #212
    ayos ang ibang pinoy ah..di sila pwede ma discriminate pero pwedeng pwede silang mang discriminate...

    haaay...father lana rector kita sa Angelicum nung elementary buti nalang nawala ka dun kung anu anu pa siguro natutunan ko sayo

  13. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by Devastator View Post
    Hmmm, this article just brings out the double standards of some Pinoys.

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-fi...s-pinoy-nurses

    MANILA, Philippines - The Philippine Embassy in Washington DC issued a statement calling on a councilmember of the District of Columbia to apologize to Filipino nurses.

    "He owes Filipino nurses an apology for his recent tirade," said Philippine Ambassador to the United States Jose Cuisia Jr.

    Cuisia was reacting to a remark made by Councilmember Marion Barry about Filipino nurses.

    According to the Washington Post, Barry was quoted as saying that he wanted more residents to become nurses so that hospitals wouldn't have to rely on "immigrants", particularly from the Philippines.

    "The remarks of District of Columbia Councilmember Marion Barry criticizing local hospitals for hiring Filipino nurses are deplorable," Cuisia said.

    However, the same report on Washington Post also quoted Barry as saying there was nothing negative about his statement.

    The ambassador said it was not the first time that Barry made such "intolerant and narrow-minded comments".

    "Just three weeks ago, he made the prejudiced observation that Asian-owned businesses were 'dirty shops'," said Cuisia.

    He added, "Councilmember Barry’s penchant for blaming Asians, who only want to work for their American dream, fuels racism, discrimination, and violence. Such rhetoric does nothing but harm relations among community members, when the times call for developing relationships and finding solutions to common challenges”.

    Cuisia said the Philippine nursing profession grew to become a major player in the global healthcare market when it became the biggest supplier of registered nurses due to the global nursing shortage.

    "Filipino nurses are known to be competent, hardworking, caring, and possess good work ethic. These are some of the reasons why most patients prefer and trust them. Like many good citizens, they pay their taxes and contribute to the American economy"..
    intolerant and narrow-minded comments? wala yan... tanong mo kay lana and the gang. pusong mamon.

  14. #214
    aminin nyo na lang.Inggit lang kayo sa San Beda.

    By the way,Im a MAPUA alumnus.Ok lang kayo?

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