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    Exclamation INC and MCGI logo ginamit ba ng mga unang kristiyano at nasa bibliya ba?

    let's examine the logo of MCGI and INC. Can these logos be found in the homes/catacombs of the early Christians? Since they're the ones who are very "biblical", question is are these logo biblical? Nakikita ba yan sa bible?

    MCGI
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f6/MCGI.jpg

    Manalo's INC
    http://i34.tinypic.com/2hqtdom.jpg

    Bukeeeeng!

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    ^^^
    froshie owl, I just googled "Roman Catholic logo" and came up with more than 5 Million results

    biblical din ba mga ito?

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    Walang problema sa aming mga catholics iyan because we don't rely on the saying "bible alone". Kami bible and holy traditions. Eh kayo diba dapat lahat nakasulat?

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by froshie1 View Post
    Walang problema sa aming mga catholics iyan because we don't rely on the saying "bible alone". Kami bible and holy traditions. Eh kayo diba dapat lahat nakasulat?
    Eh di inamin mo rin na mga gingawa niyo ay hindi base sa bible!
    Holy traditions na paganistic!



    Bukkkeeeeeennngggggg!!!!!!

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia_queen View Post
    Eh di inamin mo rin na mga gingawa niyo ay hindi base sa bible!
    Holy traditions na paganistic!



    Bukkkeeeeeennngggggg!!!!!!
    You don't get it.. We don't subscribe to the saying "bible alone" compared to BAs, INCs and other cults. Catholics adhere to the bible/holy scriptures and holy traditions. Do you get it now? Anong bukeeeng diyan? Iyang sinabi ko is different from what you are saying
    Eh di inamin mo rin na mga gingawa niyo ay hindi base sa bible!
    Holy traditions being paganistic? Says who? Your man made religion founded by a man named Felix? Can your Felix trace its roots to the apostles time? No. Afaik, Felix made Jesus a liar since he claims that Christ's church needs to be restored. LOLOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by froshie1 View Post
    You don't get it.. We don't subscribe to the saying "bible alone" compared to BAs, INCs and other cults. Catholics adhere to the bible/holy scriptures and holy traditions. Do you get it now? Anong bukeeeng diyan? Iyang sinabi ko is different from what you are saying


    Holy traditions being paganistic? Says who? Your man made religion founded by a man named Felix? Can your Felix trace its roots to the apostles time? No. Afaik, Felix made Jesus a liar since he claims that Christ's church needs to be restored. LOLOL
    So your worshipping of graven images, repetitious prayers, chanting (during holy week), abstaining meats, making the sign of the cross (even when you pass by a church) are not paganistic in origin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia_queen View Post
    So your worshipping of graven images, repetitious prayers, chanting (during holy week), abstaining meats, making the sign of the cross (even when you pass by a church) are not paganistic in origin?
    iq, biblical po ba yang logo ninyo na iyan? tungkol po sa logo niyo ang topic, di sa amin

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by san andres View Post
    iq, biblical po ba yang logo ninyo na iyan? tungkol po sa logo niyo ang topic, di sa amin


    oooooooohhhhhh!!!! evading the question!! bukkeeennnnggg kasi.


    From Wikipedia:
    A logo is a graphic mark or emblem commonly used by commercial enterprises, organizations and even individuals to aid and promote instant public recognition. Logos are either purely graphic (symbols/icons) or are composed of the name of the organization (a logotype or wordmark).


    The symbols used in the INC logo are bible based. See previous thread (INC Logo the real meaning). I don't know the meaning of the symbols in MCGI, maybe one of the members here can tell the meaning.

    does that answer your question now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by froshie1 View Post
    Walang problema sa aming mga catholics iyan because we don't rely on the saying "bible alone". Kami bible and holy traditions. Eh kayo diba dapat lahat nakasulat?
    may patunay kaba kuwago na kami ay sole scripturist? pakisagot?

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    Catholics dont rely on Bible alone kasi they prefer more invented teachings than of the apostles.

    kulang ang Bibliya sabi nila DAW! kasi ang dios nila minsan puwedeng maging incomplete.

    mawalan ng kamay, paa ay bibili lang ng bago sa Quiapo.

    pinapasan pa nga eh.

    anyway, religious orgs logo ay di naman kailangan pag usapan dahil walang kinalaman yan sa kaligtasan.

    yang mga logo na yan ay paraan ng mga relihiyon para sumunod sa gobyerno na nag utos na dapat maglagay ng logo.

    kung ako tatanungin, mas gusto ko pa ang logo ng Sorianist religion.

    yung sa INC ay nakakatakot. baliktad na triangle eh isa yan sa logo ng Satanismo eh.

    saka yung timbangan, may kinalaman rin sa Freemansonry.

    there is a rumor na si Felix Manalo ay isa sa matataas na lider ng Mason noon.

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    panu naging logo ng satanismo yan? halata mahilig ka maghalungkat ng mga anti INC site ahihihi

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    Quote Originally Posted by gospeldefender View Post
    Catholics dont rely on Bible alone kasi they prefer more invented teachings than of the apostles.

    kulang ang Bibliya sabi nila DAW! kasi ang dios nila minsan puwedeng maging incomplete.
    Another accusation of a true cult. Let me ask you what came first the bible or the church?

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    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia_queen View Post
    So your worshipping of graven images, repetitious prayers, chanting (during holy week), abstaining meats, making the sign of the cross (even when you pass by a church) are not paganistic in origin?
    Answer to your question, no. And para kang sira, worshiping again of graven image... Imbentong propaganda ng mga kulto talaga to recruit ignorant people.

    Btw, speaking of repetitious prayers if I'm going to use your logic INCoM also practices it. Search for my thread, napagusapan na ito before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gospeldefender View Post
    Catholics dont rely on Bible alone kasi they prefer more invented teachings than of the apostles.

    kulang ang Bibliya sabi nila DAW! kasi ang dios nila minsan puwedeng maging incomplete.

    mawalan ng kamay, paa ay bibili lang ng bago sa Quiapo.

    pinapasan pa nga eh.

    anyway, religious orgs logo ay di naman kailangan pag usapan dahil walang kinalaman yan sa kaligtasan.

    yang mga logo na yan ay paraan ng mga relihiyon para sumunod sa gobyerno na nag utos na dapat maglagay ng logo.

    kung ako tatanungin, mas gusto ko pa ang logo ng Sorianist religion.

    yung sa INC ay nakakatakot. baliktad na triangle eh isa yan sa logo ng Satanismo eh.

    saka yung timbangan, may kinalaman rin sa Freemansonry.

    there is a rumor na si Felix Manalo ay isa sa matataas na lider ng Mason noon.
    Sorry to say, Mr. Gospeldefender, but there is no Bible alone or Scripture alone in the Bible itself. The Bible alone (sola Scriptura) teaching contradicts itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky_Sword View Post
    Sorry to say, Mr. Gospeldefender, but there is no Bible alone or Scripture alone in the Bible itself. The Bible alone (sola Scriptura) teaching contradicts itself.
    Really?

    Sabi ni Pablo, huwag hihigit sa mga bagay na nangasusulat.

    1 Corinto 4:6 "upang sa amin ay mangatuto kayo na huwag magsihigit sa mga bagay na nangasusulat;"

    Pero gagamitin nyo ito tama?

    2 Tesalonica 2:15 "Kaya nga, mga kapatid, kayo'y mangagpakatibay, at inyong panghawakan ang mga aral na sa inyo'y itinuro, maging sa pamamagitan ng salita, o ng aming sulat. "

    natural sinabi yan ni Pablo ng di pa sinusulat ang verse na yan.

    pero dumating ang time na lahat ng mga tinuro ni Pablo, by word or letter ay sinulat na lahat ni Lucas.

    Lukas 1:1 "Yamang marami ang nagpilit mag-ayos ng isang kasaysayan noong mga bagay na naganap sa gitna natin,

    2 Alinsunod sa ipinatalos sa atin nilang buhat sa pasimula ay mga saksing nangakakakita at mga ministro ng salita,

    3 Ay minagaling ko naman, pagkasiyasat na lubos ng pangyayari ng lahat ng mga bagay mula nang una, na isulat sa iyong sunodsunod, kagalanggalang na Teofilo;"

    Kaya yung nakasulat sa Gawa 20:35 ay di mo makikita sa Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke at John.

    malinaw na dapat nating kilalanin ang mga sulat ng apostol at labas nito ay mali na.


    1 Corinto 14:37 "Kung iniisip ninoman na siya'y propeta, o ayon sa espiritu, ay kilalanin niya ang mga bagay na sa inyo'y isinusulat ko, na pawang utos ng Panginoon. "

    P.S. di uubra mga Catholic Defenders sa akin kung gagamitin ang lahat ng natutunan ko sa INC at ADD kung ang usapan ay pabagsakin ang mga aral ng malagano kong iglesia na dati akong deboto.

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    Ito ang paliwanag sa logo ng ADD at INC:

    INC:

    green means brotherhood

    white means purity

    red means courage

    yung triangle ay equality of members

    yung libro ay yung Bibliya.

    yung kordero ay si Cristo.

    yung dove ay yung Holy Spirit.

    ADD:


    yung archor ay si Cristo

    yung tali ay kautusan ni Cristo na nakasulat sa Colosas 3:14.

    yung lamp ay kautusan ng DIOS na (THY WORD IS A LAMP UNTO MY FEET na mababasa somewhere in Proverbs)

    yung nakasulat sa libro ay YHWH (Tetragrammaton)

    yung star ay si Cristo ayon sa Revelation kasi Siya ay bright morning star.

    P.S. pero I like yung Sorianist logo.

    yung sa INC nakakatakot talaga ako..

    yung triangle puwede namang di baliktad.

    ang baliktad na triangle ay isa sa mga symbols of Satanism.

    yung timbangan, mukhang totoo ang usap usapan na dating Mason sa higher degree si Manalo.

    kaya magkatulad timbanga na symbol ng INC at Freemansonry.

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    MCGI created the logo shown in the first post of the thread as organizations are required by law to have an official logo and seal. Hence the logo. I guess the INC also has the same reason for theirs.

    I guess MCGI's logo is biblical, as biblical as a logo can get.

    Now for the logos that the Roman Catholic Church have, are you required by law during the early centuries to have an official logo? Or you created the seal for the sake of having one to be worshipped by members?

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    Quote Originally Posted by froshie1 View Post
    Answer to your question, no. And para kang sira, worshiping again of graven image... Imbentong propaganda ng mga kulto talaga to recruit ignorant people.

    Btw, speaking of repetitious prayers if I'm going to use your logic INCoM also practices it. Search for my thread, napagusapan na ito before.
    Oist mr kwago, wag mo akong matawag na sira dahil galing ako sa ketolik okei??!!! Alam ko lahat ng mga ginagawa sa loob ng simbahan. Napaka linaw sinasabi sa biblya na huwag magsamba ng mga imahe pero ginagawa niyo pa rin. Hindi ito pakulo ng mga kulto, tinatawan pa kayo dahil kayo ang mga sira na sinasamba, hinahalikan at iniiyakan mga rebultong gawa sa kahoy.
    Ikaw ang sira, derp!

    Ilang buwan na akong nagsasamba sa Inc pero ni minsan walang naulit na panalangin. Walang rosaryo at pasyon doon. Lahat ng panalangin mula sa kalooban ng nagpapasimunong ministro na nagbigay ng lesson sa worship service. Walang Our Father, Hail Mary,Apostles Creed at Kung ano pang mga ginagawa tuwing misa ng ketoliks.
    Again, ikaw ang sira

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    Cherry Picking wont do YOU any GOOD...it isolates it from the WHOLE CONTEXT of Scripture

    Chapter 4 of 1Corinthians 4 says that God's ministers are not to be judged. He reprehends their boasting of their preachers and describes the treatment the apostles every where met with, and whats is the basis???? Scripture..

    And what was considered "Scripture" in Paul's time???

    1 Corinthians 4:6 REFERS to

    And yes..Paul was REFERRING to the OLD TESTAMENT or the Tanakh

    Since the NEW TESTAMENT was NOT YET WRITTEN


    Quote Originally Posted by gospeldefender View Post
    Really?

    Sabi ni Pablo, huwag hihigit sa mga bagay na nangasusulat.

    1 Corinto 4:6 "upang sa amin ay mangatuto kayo na huwag magsihigit sa mga bagay na nangasusulat;"

    Pero gagamitin nyo ito tama?


    How about the other Apostles who NEVER WROTE any Epistle? do you ignore what they passed on ORALLY (by word) to their bishops and followers??

    So what these OTHER Apostles taught and passed on to their bishops are "meaningless"??? these were NOT written

    And how about this??? Not EVERYTHING was WRITTEN (John 21:25)

    This was what Paul said..what they (Apostles) convey by letter (written) or by word (oral) in 2 Thessalonians 2:14...which says that there are "unwritten" traditions which should be at par with the written epistles




    Quote Originally Posted by gospeldefender View Post
    2 Tesalonica 2:15 "Kaya nga, mga kapatid, kayo'y mangagpakatibay, at inyong panghawakan ang mga aral na sa inyo'y itinuro, maging sa pamamagitan ng salita, o ng aming sulat. "

    natural sinabi yan ni Pablo ng di pa sinusulat ang verse na yan.

    pero dumating ang time na lahat ng mga tinuro ni Pablo, by word or letter ay sinulat na lahat ni Lucas.

    Lukas 1:1 "Yamang marami ang nagpilit mag-ayos ng isang kasaysayan noong mga bagay na naganap sa gitna natin,

    2 Alinsunod sa ipinatalos sa atin nilang buhat sa pasimula ay mga saksing nangakakakita at mga ministro ng salita,

    3 Ay minagaling ko naman, pagkasiyasat na lubos ng pangyayari ng lahat ng mga bagay mula nang una, na isulat sa iyong sunodsunod, kagalanggalang na Teofilo;"

    Kaya yung nakasulat sa Gawa 20:35 ay di mo makikita sa Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke at John.

    malinaw na dapat nating kilalanin ang mga sulat ng apostol at labas nito ay mali na.


    1 Corinto 14:37 "Kung iniisip ninoman na siya'y propeta, o ayon sa espiritu, ay kilalanin niya ang mga bagay na sa inyo'y isinusulat ko, na pawang utos ng Panginoon. "

    P.S. di uubra mga Catholic Defenders sa akin kung gagamitin ang lahat ng natutunan ko sa INC at ADD kung ang usapan ay pabagsakin ang mga aral ng malagano kong iglesia na dati akong deboto.

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    Let's go back to the topic, are the logos of MGI and INC biblical?

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