Social Anxiety Disorder in the Philippines

[birdy90]

lol. e di labas din tunay mong kulay. nakisawsaw ka sa away na hindi sayo na parang may maganda kang intention, may paquote quote ka pa ng kung ano anong webpage, e ang gusto mo lang pala ay mang-one-up. lol. tapos ngayong alam mong hindi mo ko kaya, asar talo ka. how pitiful.

and that boldened part, that applies to most everyone. it's called human nature. lol. ang tanong bakit apektado ka? tandaan. ang pikon ay laging talo.

anyway, the last thing you quoted, i posted that for people who have been sending me sms. that's not for you, nor is it for that guy you're pitying.

ahh ok. bat ganado ka masyado? sige balikan mo na fans mo. in your own words, you're a troll. lumabas din ang totoong intention. no worth giving you a proper response.

respect the thread na lang because this is a discussion board for people who are seeking support and sharing their stories. they're not expecting to be criticized and judged.

kung gusto mong mang-husga mag-abugasya ka, get it right, and live through the professional ethics of whatever you're claiming to be.

[lancealmekian]

running out of things to say huh? lol.

when i said i was flat out trolling it was implied i was trolling him. that doesn't mean i am trolling the whole thread or that i am a troll per se.

kung titingnan ang nangyari, nagpost ako, inatake ang post ko, dumepensa ako, inatake ang depensa ko, at doon ako gumanti ako ng atake. nung gumanti ako, umeksena ka, at nung napahiya ka e napikon ka. so sino ang humusga kanino? sheesh. i'm only giving you and the other guy what you asked for.

and really, you should stop pretending that you care about this thread. you're more into this debate than i am, involving yourself when the situation doesn't call for it, and when you couldn't stick with the argument, you say something intellectually distasteful. kung ayaw nyo mapahiya, wag nyo ko sisimulan. lahat ng nakadebate ko dito sa pex hindi ako kinaya at nagsitahimik sa huli. shut your hole if you have nothing else better to say.

[birdy90]

running out of things to say huh? lol.

when i said i was flat out trolling it was implied i was trolling him. that doesn't mean i am trolling the whole thread or that i am a troll per se.

kung titingnan ang nangyari, nagpost ako, inatake ang post ko, dumepensa ako, inatake ang depensa ko, at doon ako gumanti ako ng atake. nung gumanti ako, umeksena ka, at nung napahiya ka e napikon ka. so sino ang humusga kanino? sheesh. i'm only giving you and the other guy what you asked for.

and really, you should stop pretending that you care about this thread. you're more into this debate than i am, involving yourself when the situation doesn't call for it, and when you couldn't stick with the argument, you say something intellectually distasteful. kung ayaw nyo mapahiya, wag nyo ko sisimulan. lahat ng nakadebate ko dito sa pex hindi ako kinaya at nagsitahimik sa huli. shut your hole if you have nothing else better to say.

of course not, matuto ka munang makipag-usap ng may diplomasya. attack of character and baseless assumptions ang binabato mo.

and why troll someone with a serious concern? you're being funny? or maybe you're trying to lose "credibility"?

the only think you seem to be doing around here is get a rise out of people in every thread you post in so wag kang magpanggap na first time mong naka-experience ng ganito. ayaw nang i-mirror ang tono ng pananalita mo and what do you say, she must have run out of things to say. you believe this is a debate? this is not a debate. it's an opportunity for you to redeem yourself and acknowledge your mistakes. that's all i'm saying. you crossed the line way too far na.

[lancealmekian]

of course not, matuto ka munang makipag-usap ng may diplomasya. attack of character and baseless assumptions ang binabato mo.

and why troll someone with a serious concern? you're being funny? or maybe you're trying to lose "credibility"?

the only think you seem to be doing around here is get a rise out of people in every thread you post in so wag kang magpanggap na first time mong naka-experience ng ganito. ayaw nang i-mirror ang tono ng pananalita mo and what do you say, she must have run out of things to say. you believe this is a debate? this is not a debate. it's an opportunity for you to redeem yourself and acknowledge your mistakes. that's all i'm saying. you crossed the line way too far na.

it's you who's attacking me. you're out of place. you're not a mod and yet you're acting like you are one. to top it all up, when you run out of things to say, you resort to throwing out ad hominems. sheesh.

lol at having crossed the line. don't you think there are actually mods here, as in REAL mods, who would have banned me long ago if i did? you're the one who keeps on attacking me. i only defend with my ideologies. funny how it gets your goat without me trying. hahaha.

and you're right, this isn't a debate, at least not anymore. i mean i actually thought it was at first, so i countered everything you said with logic. you, having inferior logic, countered my counter with ad hominems. so yeah there's no more debate. you're just making baseless claims.

i reiterate. ang pikon ay laging talo. sige lang reply pa. wag lang po tayo iiyak ha?

P.S.
this isn't fairy tale land. hindi uso ang diplomasya dito sa pex. remember what i said about the world being fucked up? this is it. accept it. as the saying goes, if you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.

[birdy90]

it's you who's attacking me. you're out of place. you're not a mod and yet you're acting like you are one. to top it all up, when you run out of things to say, you resort to throwing out ad hominems. sheesh.

lol at having crossed the line. don't you think there are actually mods here, as in REAL mods, who would have banned me long ago if i did? you're the one who keeps on attacking me. i only defend with my ideologies. funny how it gets your goat without me trying. hahaha.

and you're right, this isn't a debate, at least not anymore. i mean i actually thought it was at first, so i countered everything you said with logic. you, having inferior logic, countered my counter with ad hominems. so yeah there's no more debate. you're just making baseless claims.

i reiterate. ang pikon ay laging talo. sige lang reply pa. wag lang po tayo iiyak ha?

P.S.
this isn't fairy tale land. hindi uso ang diplomasya dito sa pex. remember what i said about the world being fucked up? this is it. accept it. as the saying goes, if you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.

you're convinced you beat social anixety so you want to act like you're an expert, that's fine but you're no longer acting appropriately. sa mga adjective na ginamit mo mula sa previous page pa lang you gotta be kidding me. yes you crossed the line by establishing this unnecessary exchange of words.

don't speak to me... hindi ako makiki-pantay sa level mo kahit na sa mundo mo sa tingin mo ikaw ang pinakamataas. everything else you say in reference to me after this is just your loneliness talking.

[lancealmekian]

you're convinced you beat social anixety so you want to act like you're an expert, that's fine but you're no longer acting appropriately. sa mga adjective na ginamit mo mula sa previous page pa lang you gotta be kidding me. yes you crossed the line by establishing this unnecessary exchange of words.

don't speak to me... hindi ako makiki-pantay sa level mo kahit na sa mundo mo sa tingin mo ikaw ang pinakamataas. everything else you say in reference to me after this is just your loneliness talking.

not acting appropriately? what are you trying to be a mod again? lol. and this unnecessary exchange of words, as you put it, was initiated by you. think about it. you attacked me first, check. you threw ad hominem at me first, check. you're acting like a mod, check. lol at crossing the line. ano ba tingin mo, pambatang forums to?

and you don't want me speaking to you? lol. sino ba nagsimulang mangdaldal? wala naman ako paki sa mga taong walang paki saken. ikaw ang nagsimulang mangdaldal saken, pinatulan ko lang daldal mo. swerte mo nga pinatulan kita e, kasi nung una i thought you have sense. lol was i so wrong. wala man lang akong kahit isang assertion na na-kontra mo with logic, hanggang ad hominems ka lang.

so you're asking me not to speak to you again. lol. i take it that's your cue that you're now going to stop playing mod? oh now that'd be boring. sige i take it back. please don't stop playing mod.

[peterpants]

meron akong GAD, halos lahat ng klase ng anxiety may pagkakapareho ng symptoms lalo sa panic attack.iba iba lang ang fear's ng bawat klase ng anxiety..

hirap 4 years ko ng tinitiis

pls inform me if you guys have formed a support group or if you're planning to...i also need someone to talk to...thanks!

[Smyle]

Panu ba makipag-ingay ang hirap

[kim G]

i have a story to tell, not mine,its my daughter's.

four years ago,she has episode very similar to a stomach flu and happens every 2/3 weeks and last for a week. doctors were puzzled.MRI,ultra sound,upper and lower barium test,celiac test and allergy test plus weekly blood test,everything is normal.

finally,she was diagnosed by gastroenterologist with CVS (cyclical vomiting syndrome), was prescribed with amytriptilline and episode free for 6 months.

then CVS start again on regular basis.
day1,she will be vomiting non stop
day2, no energy at all,sleeping,not eating but will take liquid
day3,will be very withdrawn and weepy still no food intake
day4,very weepy,very sensitive,over analyze everything she heard in negative way
day5 and6,very hard to handle tipong iam damn if i do and damn if i dont
day7 everything back to normal,she will eat,chatty and witty.

she is gifted child,over achiever, have a panic/anxiety attack and she is 11 years old.

her attack is accumulation of her anxiety over few days and will be compounded hence her episode.
one example of her anxiety,after missing one week of school,took a test on math (she is in french immersion school) got 96% which is for her is FAILURE. her attacks are so strong that it paralyzed her for few days.

she is diagnosed by a psychometrist and psychologist which she is having regular counselling with both presently.and taking a very low dose of prozac. she doing yoga,swim and pottery class each one a week.aside from trombone lesson after school once a week. and all of there are distractions,leisure and fun time for her.

everything we do is a choice is not true.yes if we have no disorder to deal with. who is in their right mind choose to be anxious over things that normal people deal with day in day out?

anyone disclaim and barrage psychologist, i hope to God that they will not need these people someday.

[kim G]

i read this thread from page 1 and i find it very heroic of you guys to form a support group but please have someone that is educated and trained in this disorder.

someone who is sympathetic and will understand every situation and every person.

i have no idea what this disorder before and the more i read about it the more it boggles my mind.
it seems to me it is fighting something inside of the person and i also believe the treatment for these is combination of medication and behaviour modification.

[freshbabe]

i have a story to tell, not mine,its my daughter's.

four years ago,she has episode very similar to a stomach flu and happens every 2/3 weeks and last for a week. doctors were puzzled.MRI,ultra sound,upper and lower barium test,celiac test and allergy test plus weekly blood test,everything is normal.

finally,she was diagnosed by gastroenterologist with CVS (cyclical vomiting syndrome), was prescribed with amytriptilline and episode free for 6 months.

then CVS start again on regular basis.
day1,she will be vomiting non stop
day2, no energy at all,sleeping,not eating but will take liquid
day3,will be very withdrawn and weepy still no food intake
day4,very weepy,very sensitive,over analyze everything she heard in negative way
day5 and6,very hard to handle tipong iam damn if i do and damn if i dont
day7 everything back to normal,she will eat,chatty and witty.

she is gifted child,over achiever, have a panic/anxiety attack and she is 11 years old.

her attack is accumulation of her anxiety over few days and will be compounded hence her episode.
one example of her anxiety,after missing one week of school,took a test on math (she is in french immersion school) got 96% which is for her is FAILURE. her attacks are so strong that it paralyzed her for few days.

she is diagnosed by a psychometrist and psychologist which she is having regular counselling with both presently.and taking a very low dose of prozac. she doing yoga,swim and pottery class each one a week.aside from trombone lesson after school once a week. and all of there are distractions,leisure and fun time for her.

everything we do is a choice is not true.yes if we have no disorder to deal with. who is in their right mind choose to be anxious over things that normal people deal with day in day out?

anyone disclaim and barrage psychologist, i hope to God that they will not need these people someday.

^^iba naman po pala ang case ng anak niyo. over-achiever. extrovert. paano na lang po kung "walang kaya" yung may anak na ganyan. tingin niyo po kaya eh- mag-iinarte ng ganyan yung bata.
iniisip ko lang po-baka kayanin po ng "heart to heart" parent-to-kid talk yung bata. na di lahat ng bagay eh nakukuha talaga at magpasalamat sa Diyos sa talent at skills na meron siya. At achievement na nakukuha niya. Baka "attitude mgmt." lang po.
Normally if vomitting-diba po dapat internal-gastro. dapat medication. Di ko po lubos maunawaan na aaabot pa talaga sa psychologist. Pero di ko naman po sinasabing mali yung ginawa niyo-pero "bata" pa naman po siya. Pwede pa po siyang ma-influence ng magulang.

[kim G]

freshbabe,
you are right,iba talaga ang case,every profesional we talked to,extreme ang case nya.

heart to heart talk,treat her normally etc kind of dealing to the situation didnt work for 3,almost 4 years so we have to change our plan of treatment

nag iinarte? i dont think so dahil kung nagsusuka sya na halos isuka nya pati bituka nya,i wish it is me.

attitude? not that she is my kid but ako na mismo ang magdadala sa kanya sa boot camp kung attitude problem ito.

psychologist para sa akin,they are God given tools to help mankind.yes,they are scrupulous ones pero naniniwala ako na maraming sakit sa society can be tremendously help by trained and respectable psychologist.

i hope to God na walang anak na magkaganito at magulang na magkaroon ng anak ng may ganitong situation at di nila alam kung paano nila tutulungan ang anak nila.
you have no idea how many times i would like to give up,many times my daughter wants to give up, and as a parent,any help given to me is wholeheartedly and gratefully accepted maliban sa mga hokus pokus.

we live in canada,we belong in middle class,di kami mayaman we are gainfully employed na we can afford to pay for her extra curricular activities and we have universal health care system that thru taxes,our health care paid by the government and health benefit insurance from work na mabibili ko lahat ng RX at 10% of the cost.

[lancealmekian]

everything we do is a choice is not true.yes if we have no disorder to deal with. who is in their right mind choose to be anxious over things that normal people deal with day in day out?

i've read your story. sorry about your daughter. as freshbabe put it, she's still one of the fortunate ones. there are things way worse.

i have to quote from your post this single paragraph. i don't see how it's valid.

your daughter didn't choose to go through all these. NO ONE chose their anxieties to begin with. it's just that with all else in life, shit happens. no one's perfect. EVERYONE is fallible. we are, after all, just humans, as cliche as that sounds. we all have our own crosses to carry. it's what we do about it, how we choose to react, that matters, and it's all by choice.

case in point: your daughter, despite her condition, still has a life; and this is so, ultimately, because she chooses to. while it can be argued that because you have access to these things (you sound financially well off), she has more choices (a valid argument btw), it's still all up to HER. i, for one, could get in the same situation and not be as financially able but i can still choose to do other things. life simply MUST go on.

[kim G]

lancealmekian
yes,as i always said, our situation is luckier bec we could have this problem and live in somalia or haiti.

we all have the right to choose and make our own decision but we are talking in different context.
you sounds like you are a very bright person and i am not patronizing you bec there is no point and i do not know you so you should exactly know what i am talking about.

i am sharing our story and there is no other reason why i am here.

my daughter is doing well as of this week and i hope to God she will continue to do so in the coming weeks,months and years.and hopefully,we can look back and talk about this crisis and we say."we made it!"

[mars11]

I think I have this too... I considered myself an ambivert, but I am now more convinced that I am really more introverted. I don't do well in crowds and I especially do not like speaking in front of people. I'd sweat like crazy whenever I'm front of people or when the spot light was on me. Even back in school or at work, I really don't mingle a lot. I don't like attracting attention. I go about and find my own little space and stay there and do whatever. I have self esteem issues, mostly because I don't conform to what is normal and pleasant to the general public. I don't usually wallow on the idea but I do have reservations and apprehensions because of this. I think this also made me cynic and depressed a lot. I turned to food as an escape from my anxieties and insecurities, but it just made it worse.

This may also be the reason why I find social media like this (Pinoyexchange) a very useful tool that serves as an outlet/venue for me to express myself (under a pseudonym, of course). Whereas in a normal social setting, I would find it very hard to speak up...

#justsharing

[freshbabe]

freshbabe,
you are right,iba talaga ang case,every profesional we talked to,extreme ang case nya.

heart to heart talk,treat her normally etc kind of dealing to the situation didnt work for 3,almost 4 years so we have to change our plan of treatment

nag iinarte? i dont think so dahil kung nagsusuka sya na halos isuka nya pati bituka nya,i wish it is me.

attitude? not that she is my kid but ako na mismo ang magdadala sa kanya sa boot camp kung attitude problem ito.

psychologist para sa akin,they are God given tools to help mankind.yes,they are scrupulous ones pero naniniwala ako na maraming sakit sa society can be tremendously help by trained and respectable psychologist.

i hope to God na walang anak na magkaganito at magulang na magkaroon ng anak ng may ganitong situation at di nila alam kung paano nila tutulungan ang anak nila.
you have no idea how many times i would like to give up,many times my daughter wants to give up, and as a parent,any help given to me is wholeheartedly and gratefully accepted maliban sa mga hokus pokus.

we live in canada,we belong in middle class,di kami mayaman we are gainfully employed na we can afford to pay for her extra curricular activities and we have universal health care system that thru taxes,our health care paid by the government and health benefit insurance from work na mabibili ko lahat ng RX at 10% of the cost.

^^ You're lucky po-that CANADA has your back. Sorry din po- I judged agad2x. Kasi the story seemed like you're dealing w/ a big egoistic brat. And a simple internal disorders-maybe dehydration, or food poisoning, or bolimia- can make you reach to a point that it is a psychological disorder na pala. It's a rare case I might conclude.

[freshbabe]

I think I have this too... I considered myself an ambivert, but I am now more convinced that I am really more introverted. I don't do well in crowds and I especially do not like speaking in front of people. I'd sweat like crazy whenever I'm front of people or when the spot light was on me. Even back in school or at work, I really don't mingle a lot. I don't like attracting attention. I go about and find my own little space and stay there and do whatever. I have self esteem issues, mostly because I don't conform to what is normal and pleasant to the general public. I don't usually wallow on the idea but I do have reservations and apprehensions because of this. I think this also made me cynic and depressed a lot. I turned to food as an escape from my anxieties and insecurities, but it just made it worse.

This may also be the reason why I find social media like this (Pinoyexchange) a very useful tool that serves as an outlet/venue for me to express myself (under a pseudonym, of course). Whereas in a normal social setting, I would find it very hard to speak up...

#justsharing

^^ I have this problems too eversince I was a kid. But for some reason I did overcome all this-when "I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO OR SAY". And most specially when I see people pleased w/ what I did or what I've said. Or if it requires me to express myself-AND it is a requirement that has to be done -in order for me to PASS a JOB OR SCHOOL WORK.

-Humor
-Trust & Being Comfortable w/ the crowd I'm interacting with.
-Self-Confidence

-These 3 things made me overcome my social awkwardness. But still if i were in a CROWD that's new and I have no one whom I'm really friends with. My awkwardness would just shoot up. I won't initiate talking not unless -wala kumausap na sa akin.

-And even when I was a shy little girl-my folks say- i just dance in front of them(if persuaded) and w/ other people and even in grade school- i joined dance groups. Because I'm influenced by an extrovert closefriends. Just to be accepted in a group or pakikisama w/ the extrovert friend. But that's just it. I NEVER DANCED IN PUBLIC eversince I grew up. My Last One was the one & only high school dance i attended & a PE CLASS back in college.

[kim G]

^^ You're lucky po-that CANADA has your back. Sorry din po- I judged agad2x. Kasi the story seemed like you're dealing w/ a big egoistic brat. And a simple internal disorders-maybe dehydration, or food poisoning, or bolimia- can make you reach to a point that it is a psychological disorder na pala. It's a rare case I might conclude.

it is not as rare as we assume. sabi nga ng psychologist ng anak ko,it is in varrying degree,at madalas hindi na da diagnose ang problema and patients are getting younger and younger dahil sa very competetive culture we have in north america.

and you are right,nasa canada kami(my kids are born here),i cant imagine a family in pinas going thru same problem we have and have no access to health care.

when we visit pinas 2 yrs ago and she had an attack,may nakabati raw sa anak ko sabi ng manghihilot,katakot ko kaya ang bilis kong inilabas ng bahay ng manghihilot ang anak ko

[Scottie]

I think I have this too... I considered myself an ambivert, but I am now more convinced that I am really more introverted. I don't do well in crowds and I especially do not like speaking in front of people. I'd sweat like crazy whenever I'm front of people or when the spot light was on me. Even back in school or at work, I really don't mingle a lot. I don't like attracting attention. I go about and find my own little space and stay there and do whatever. I have self esteem issues, mostly because I don't conform to what is normal and pleasant to the general public. I don't usually wallow on the idea but I do have reservations and apprehensions because of this. I think this also made me cynic and depressed a lot. I turned to food as an escape from my anxieties and insecurities, but it just made it worse.

This may also be the reason why I find social media like this (Pinoyexchange) a very useful tool that serves as an outlet/venue for me to express myself (under a pseudonym, of course). Whereas in a normal social setting, I would find it very hard to speak up...

#justsharing

I agree on you saying that online community like this (pinoy exchange) serves as an effective tool to speak our minds, on what we believe in and not believe in.

But when it comes to the real word, im same as you who finds it difficult to dwell with others, maintain a good communication and start a good communication.

Though Im a manager from the former company i was with, i know i have a lot of things to improve.

At times, im thinking of enrolling my self to John Robert Powers or Dale Carneige for my personality enhancement.

Yeah, i may have a cute face but i think that's not enough to succeed. Ang daming di masyadong blessed in terms of physical features but they are so successful in their field.

I wish I could do this as a gift for myself in 2012. I want to be a better person.

[mars11]

^^ I have this problems too eversince I was a kid. But for some reason I did overcome all this-when "I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO OR SAY". And most specially when I see people pleased w/ what I did or what I've said. Or if it requires me to express myself-AND it is a requirement that has to be done -in order for me to PASS a JOB OR SCHOOL WORK.

-Humor
-Trust & Being Comfortable w/ the crowd I'm interacting with.
-Self-Confidence

-These 3 things made me overcome my social awkwardness. But still if i were in a CROWD that's new and I have no one whom I'm really friends with. My awkwardness would just shoot up. I won't initiate talking not unless -wala kumausap na sa akin.

-And even when I was a shy little girl-my folks say- i just dance in front of them(if persuaded) and w/ other people and even in grade school- i joined dance groups. Because I'm influenced by an extrovert closefriends. Just to be accepted in a group or pakikisama w/ the extrovert friend. But that's just it. I NEVER DANCED IN PUBLIC eversince I grew up. My Last One was the one & only high school dance i attended & a PE CLASS back in college.

I agree on you saying that online community like this (pinoy exchange) serves as an effective tool to speak our minds, on what we believe in and not believe in.

But when it comes to the real word, im same as you who finds it difficult to dwell with others, maintain a good communication and start a good communication.

Though Im a manager from the former company i was with, i know i have a lot of things to improve.

At times, im thinking of enrolling my self to John Robert Powers or Dale Carneige for my personality enhancement.

Yeah, i may have a cute face but i think that's not enough to succeed. Ang daming di masyadong blessed in terms of physical features but they are so successful in their field.

I wish I could do this as a gift for myself in 2012. I want to be a better person.

One reason I chose to take a business course back in college was to improve my interpersonal and presentation skills. Although when push comes to shove, I do deliver when it is needed, and sometimes even beyond expectations, but I'd really prefer to work under-the-radar. However, I know that I'm not going to go places with that strategy.

Scottie, you're still lucky. You already have the looks that can help you stand out. The world has many prejudices and most of us at the wrong side of the fence don't have as many opportunities.

Anyway, it's still a long process for me. I still need to work on my self esteem and confidence.