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    Spratlys Island, atin pa nga ba??

    isa sa mga pangunahing isyu sa mga welgang bayan ay ang pagtataas ng halaga ng langis sa bansa. dahil dito, lalong naeexploit ng mga malalaking kartel ng langis sa bansa ang mga Filipinong nangangailangan nito.

    Kamakailan, natuklasan ang mayamang mina ng langis sa mga isla ng Spratlys na minsan nang inangkin ng Pilipinas sa panahon ni Marcos. Ayon sa dating National Security Adviser Roilo Golez, napag-alamang ang langis ng Spratlys ay tinatayang umaabot ng 200 bilyong bariles ng langis na nagkakahalaga ng 20 trillion dollars sa pandaigdigang merkado.

    Ngunit ang tanong...kumusta na ito ngayon? Anong aksyon ng gobyerno sa kayamanang ito?

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    ayon sa ilang mangingisda ng Palawan, may ilan silang mga kasamahang binaril ng mga mga Chinese marines sa Kalayaan Island.

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    Kailan na-confirm na may langis diyan?

    Kung meron ngang oil diyan then we can expect help from Uncle Sam when the going gets tough.

    Kung wala namang oil, eh, di wala...

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyy_gear_XIV View Post
    Kailan na-confirm na may langis diyan?

    Kung meron ngang oil diyan then we can expect help from Uncle Sam when the going gets tough.

    Kung wala namang oil, eh, di wala...



    There are multiple reasons why the neighboring nations would be interested in the Spratly Islands. In 1968 oil was discovered in the region. The Geology and Mineral Resources Ministry of the People's Republic of China (PRC) has estimated that the Spratly area holds oil and natural gas reserves of 17.7 billion tons (1.60 × 1010 kg), as compared to the 13 billion tons (1.17 × 1010 kg) held by Kuwait, placing it as the fourth largest reserve bed in the world. Naturally, these large reserves assisted in intensifying the situation and propelled the territorial claims of the neighboring countries.

    In 1968, the Philippines started to take their claims a bit more seriously and stationed troops on three islands which had been claimed by the adventurer Tomas Cloma as part of Freedomland.[27] In 1973 Vietnamese troops were stationed on five islands.[28]

    On 11 March 1976, the first major Philippine oil discovery occurred off the coast of Palawan, within the Spratly Islands territory, and these oil fields now account for fifteen percent of all petroleum consumed in the Philippines. In 1992, the PRC and Vietnam granted oil exploration contracts to U.S. oil companies that covered overlapping areas in the Spratlys. In May 1992, the China National Offshore Oil Corporation (CNOOC) and Crestone Energy (a U.S. company based in Denver, Colorado) signed a cooperation contract for the joint exploration of the Wan'an Bei-21 block, a 25,155 km˛ section of the southwestern South China Sea that includes Spratly Island areas. Part of the Crestone's contract covered Vietnam's blocks 133 and 134, where PetroVietnam, PetroStar Energy(USA) and ConocoPhillips Vietnam Exploration & Production, a unit of ConocoPhillips, agreed to evaluate prospects in April 1992. This led to a confrontation between China and Vietnam, with each demanding that the other cancel its contract.

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    Noong 1992, mismong Shel Phil. B.V. ang nakatuklas ng langis at natural gas dyan. Ang palawan provincial government nakakakuha ng hindi bababang 2.6 billion pesos dahil sa mga kayamang nandyan, mas malaki yun kaysa sa internal revenue allotment na ibinibigay ng national government.

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    freespirit16, if these are all true, bakit hanggang ngayon wala pa ding development sa Spratlys?

    Are you waiting for this to become a shooting war between the Philippines and some other country? Parang watch a movie ang dating?

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    Asa pa kayo. Sa China na ang Spratly's...

    http://www.panoramio.com/photo/32686437

    http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/32686437.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyy_gear_XIV View Post
    freespirit16, if these are all true, bakit hanggang ngayon wala pa ding development sa Spratlys?

    Are you waiting for this to become a shooting war between the Philippines and some other country? Parang watch a movie ang dating?
    ano bang development ang pinagsasasabi mo jan? Yun nga ang hindi maintindihan ng mg Pinoy kung bakit tahimik na ang isyu tungkol jan sa mga islang yan eh.

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    In what I have read in Wikipedia, the Spratlys Islands is a potential flashpoint. Flashpoint is defined as an area or dispute that has a strong possibility of developing into a war.

    Other flashpoints are:

    • the Taiwan straits
    • Korea peninsula
    • the Golan heights
    • Kashmir
    • the Spratly Islands
    • Imia/Kardak - Aegean dispute
    • Barents Sea dispute
    • the Shatt al-Arab
    • the Caucasus


    Read it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyy_gear_XIV View Post
    Kailan na-confirm na may langis diyan?

    Kung meron ngang oil diyan then we can expect help from Uncle Sam when the going gets tough.

    Kung wala namang oil, eh, di wala...
    You are Dumb if you Expect the USA to go to Our Side vs China, Mas malaki pakinabang ng USA sa China kaysa Pinas

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtrm View Post
    You are Dumb if you Expect the USA to go to Our Side vs China, Mas malaki pakinabang ng USA sa China kaysa Pinas
    Korek... isa lang ibig sabihin niyan, makikinabang din ang Amerika kung makikipag-agawan ang Tsina sa langis ng Spratlys. Eh dun nga sa Middle East eh, kalayo-layong bansa sa kanila, nakikinabang pa rin ang Amerika.

    Yung flashpoints na sinasabi mo, every dispute nasosolusyunan ng international conventions tulad ng Korean peninsula. Yung Spratlys sa Pilipinas na yan. Ang tanong eh bakit wala atang balitang napapala si Juan de la Cruz sa mga langis niyan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtrm View Post
    You are Dumb if you Expect the USA to go to Our Side vs China, Mas malaki pakinabang ng USA sa China kaysa Pinas
    We are talking about the Spratly Islands issue and its potential for vast oil deposits.

    Do you think the US will let China lay claim to the Spratly Islands wholly and exclusively? Do you think China will share the resources with the US? Sa Iran and North Korea issue nga lang hirap na ang US to convince China, eh.

    Now, compare to the idea that the Philippines will lay claim to it and the US will be a joint partner in developing the resources there. How do I know that the Philippines will share it with the US? Just take a look into the rich Philippine history.

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    Kung totoo nga na 200 Billion barrels ang oil reserve dyan sa Spratly's tulad ng sinabi ng henyong si Roilo Golez, siguradong mai-involve ang US dyan by siding with the Philippines. Kung China nag may ari nyan, hindi papayag yan makisosyo ang US. Sososlohin nila yan.

    Pero saan naman nakakuha ng powers si Roilo Golum na meron ngang 200 Billion barrels sa Spratly's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papichulo168 View Post
    ^
    Kung totoo nga na 200 Billion barrels ang oil reserve dyan sa Spratly's tulad ng sinabi ng henyong si Roilo Golez, siguradong mai-involve ang US dyan by siding with the Philippines. Kung China nag may ari nyan, hindi papayag yan makisosyo ang US. Sososlohin nila yan.

    Pero saan naman nakakuha ng powers si Roilo Golum na meron ngang 200 Billion barrels sa Spratly's?
    Yun na nga ang pinagtataka ko din. Binuhay kasi ni TS itong issue na ito. Akala ko ay merong bagong development, meaning research or excavation, sa area na iyan. Matagal nang issue ito. Dormant up until now.

    Busy ang big players, like China and US, sa kanilang mga petty war games tulad ng Iran and North Korea nuclear issues. Ang Taiwan declaring independence ay nag-slow down na din.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papichulo168 View Post
    ^
    Kung totoo nga na 200 Billion barrels ang oil reserve dyan sa Spratly's tulad ng sinabi ng henyong si Roilo Golez, siguradong mai-involve ang US dyan by siding with the Philippines. Kung China nag may ari nyan, hindi papayag yan makisosyo ang US. Sososlohin nila yan.

    Pero saan naman nakakuha ng powers si Roilo Golum na meron ngang 200 Billion barrels sa Spratly's?
    Hindi naman galing kay Golez ang impormasyon eh... si Golez ay recipient lang ng mga impormasyong nakakalap ng kongreso dahil kongresman nga siya di ba? May mga impormasyon ang wikipedia tungkol sa supply ng langis sa Spratlys...

    In 1968 oil was discovered in the region. The Geology and Mineral Resources Ministry of the People's Republic of China (PRC) has estimated that the Spratly area holds oil and natural gas reserves of 17.7 billion tons (1.60 × 1010 kg), as compared to the 13 billion tons (1.17 × 1010 kg) held by Kuwait, placing it as the fourth largest reserve bed in the world. Naturally, these large reserves assisted in intensifying the situation and propelled the territorial claims of the neighboring countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyy_gear_XIV View Post
    Yun na nga ang pinagtataka ko din. Binuhay kasi ni TS itong issue na ito. Akala ko ay merong bagong development, meaning research or excavation, sa area na iyan. Matagal nang issue ito. Dormant up until now.

    Busy ang big players, like China and US, sa kanilang mga petty war games tulad ng Iran and North Korea nuclear issues. Ang Taiwan declaring independence ay nag-slow down na din.
    Yun nga ang ipinagtataka ko rin, bakit walang bagong developmeny sa mga pag-aari ng Pilipinas sa lugar na yan... eh napakalaking tulong niyan para matigil ang welga welga sa Pilipinas eh. Totoo bang inabandona na ng gobyerno ang mga isla na yan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by freespirit16 View Post
    Yun nga ang ipinagtataka ko rin, bakit walang bagong developmeny sa mga pag-aari ng Pilipinas sa lugar na yan... eh napakalaking tulong niyan para matigil ang welga welga sa Pilipinas eh. Totoo bang inabandona na ng gobyerno ang mga isla na yan?
    IMO, honestly, tingin ko wala pang oras si Uncle Sam na-rumesbak sa atin kung sakaling mag-escalate itong issue na ito kaya hindi niya kinakanti ang Pilipinas na muling buhayin itong issue na ito. Hintayin mo lang matapos ang Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, North Korea, Taiwan issues... pag wala nang magawa si Uncle Sam ay itutuon naman niya ang pansin niya dito para maging playground. O kaya kapag naubos na ang langis sa Middle East. Whichever comes first...

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    Dapat umpisahan na ng BP mag drill ng langis dyan sa Spratly's.

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    as far as i know, WE own the Spratlys and North Borneo (a.k.a. Sabah).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papichulo168 View Post
    Dapat umpisahan na ng BP mag drill ng langis dyan sa Spratly's.
    mangyari pa kaya yun? eh nagdri-drill na ang China dun, tapos bilyon bilyon pa utang natin sa kanila. tapos pinapaalis pa yung dati nang mga kumpanya na kapwesto dun na may permiso sa gobyerno. At eto namang tarantadohng 14th Congress eh naghain na pala ng bill na alisin na ang Spratly sa teritoryo.

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