Marcos Family History CORRUPTION/ILL GOTTEN WEALTH Thread

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ihambing kaya sa kasakiman ng Oligarch na ugat ng pagpapahirap ng bayan dahil ginawang gatasan ang mamamayan, sinasakal ang pag-asenso nito para protektahan ang makasariling interes nila, at ngayon mas gustuhin pang isugal at ilagay sa kapalpakan at alanganin ang bayan para lang mailagay sa posisyon ang tuta nilang zero accomplishment at tulug-tulugan sa session.

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^ e di mag-file ka ng kaso dyan sa sinasabi mo.

[mokong142]

Kung hindi tayo magcha-Charter Change, events will happen so that in 2016, ang mananalo sa pagka-presidente ay isang MARCOS.

[PangitQuest]

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ginamit pa si bongbong, kung meron syang gagawin sa senado para sa bayan parang sa ginawa nya sa ilocos well he deserve to win, as if me ginawa ang mga marcos para sa bansa na masama, black propaganda lang ang ginawa sa kanila, nag sample nga si noynoy kung ano yon at yun din ang ginawa nang ina kahit na ang ama..hehe

sana man lang bago ka gumawa nang gimik mag basa or hanapin mo ang totoo sa history natin, wala kang pinagka iba sa mga sumisira sa bansa natin..hehe

walang masama siguro sa charter change or sa pag palit nang constitution pero pili ka nang kagaya ni noynoy na panakot..hehe

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Salonga says that among the techniques by which the Marcoses acquired and safeguarded ill-gotten wealth were:

1. Creation of monopolies in certain vital industries and placing them under the control of Marcos cronies or associates.

2. Awarding of loans by government banking or financing institutions to favored individuals, with little or no collateral, at the behest of Marcos or Ms Marcos.

3. Takeover by Marcos relatives or associates of large public or private enterprises with nominal amounts as consideration.

4. Direct raid on the public treasury and government financing institutions. For instance, intelligence funds were disbursed for the trips of Ms Marcos.

5. Issuance of presidential decrees and orders to favor certain individuals and enterprises to enable them to amass wealth for the joint benefit of these individuals and the Marcoses.

6. Kickbacks and commissions from firms or enterprises doing business in the Philippines.

7. Use of shell corporations and dummy companies to launder money and invest in real estate in such places as New York, California and Hawaii.

8. Skimming of foreign aid and other forms of international assistance.

Days before her birthday celebration, Imelda Marcos appeared in public without her glittering jewels and cried that she was practically penniless. This, from a woman who said in December 1998, “We own practically everything in the Philippines.”

We have seen, from the way people gushed over Imelda at her recent birthday celebration, that many of them have forgotten what happened during the Conjugal Dictatorship. When shall we end our state of denial? When shall we stop idolizing those who have wronged and betrayed us and regain our sense of right and wrong and exact justice from those who have committed crimes against the nation?


http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquirer...tate-of-denial

[PangitQuest]

wow tindi talaga, ginawang literal yung we own practically everything..hehe

once nasa office ka at president ka parang you practically own everything, kaya nga madami ang gusto sa position na yan, kaya now noynoy practically owns everything kasi sya ang presidente..hehe

at sana man lang me lumusot sa kaso nya na nanalo yung mga sinasabi nila dyan, kaya mahihirapan kayo din na magkaroon nang converts sa gusto nyo kasi yung mga new breed na lumalabas walang galit or emotions, they can think straight kesa dyan sa kagaya nyo na ingit at galit ang nasa utak kaya kahit ano gagawin para makasira at para wag mawala ang mga pag nanakaw nyo, at sana magiging totoo yan kung from cory to noynoy ay naging maayos ang buhay nang tao, well look around, nag hihirap na ang mga tao, bilihin sobrang taas, lahat halos gusto lumabas nang bansa and so on, so yan ang tapusin nyo muna bago kaya mag preach na masama ang mga marcos..hehe

[manilaB]

Salonga says that among the techniques by which the Marcoses acquired and safeguarded ill-gotten wealth were:

1. Creation of monopolies in certain vital industries and placing them under the control of Marcos cronies or associates.

2. Awarding of loans by government banking or financing institutions to favored individuals, with little or no collateral, at the behest of Marcos or Ms Marcos.

3. Takeover by Marcos relatives or associates of large public or private enterprises with nominal amounts as consideration.

4. Direct raid on the public treasury and government financing institutions. For instance, intelligence funds were disbursed for the trips of Ms Marcos.

5. Issuance of presidential decrees and orders to favor certain individuals and enterprises to enable them to amass wealth for the joint benefit of these individuals and the Marcoses.

6. Kickbacks and commissions from firms or enterprises doing business in the Philippines.

7. Use of shell corporations and dummy companies to launder money and invest in real estate in such places as New York, California and Hawaii.

8. Skimming of foreign aid and other forms of international assistance.

Days before her birthday celebration, Imelda Marcos appeared in public without her glittering jewels and cried that she was practically penniless. This, from a woman who said in December 1998, “We own practically everything in the Philippines.”

We have seen, from the way people gushed over Imelda at her recent birthday celebration, that many of them have forgotten what happened during the Conjugal Dictatorship. When shall we end our state of denial? When shall we stop idolizing those who have wronged and betrayed us and regain our sense of right and wrong and exact justice from those who have committed crimes against the nation?


http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquirer...tate-of-denial

P_cha! Binasa ko 'yung link. Umpisa pa lang, heto na ang sinabi:

THE RECENT ostentatious and extravagant celebration of the 80th birthday of former first lady Imelda Marcos at the Sofitel Hotel at a time when nearly 3 million families are going hungry marks the height of insensitivity for someone who professes that her heart bleeds for the poor. It calls to mind the story of Marie Antoinette of France who, when told that the people had no bread to eat, is reported to have said, “Let them eat cake.”

Part ng black propaganda ang tungkol kay Marie Antoinette. Marami ngang history books ang nagsasabing imposibleng sinabi niya 'yun. To repeat it in your writing speaks volumes of who you are.

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Marcos (2nd District, Ilocos Norte) faces case number 10-002 challenge filed by Mariano R. Nalupta and Ferdinand Ignacio.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/07...-poll-protests

[pillowcase]

http://raissarobles.com/2010/04/28/v...ight-to-steal/

so ano ng nangyari dito?

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World's Ten Most Corrupt Leaders

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/...hlight=jueteng

[PangitQuest]

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mukhang nauubusan ka na nang post ano, kasi live with it na, wala naman mapatunayan sa kanya at isang bangkay na yan, yung mga buhay pa na pwedeng habulin ang mga ninakaw andyan pa, at mas meron pang ma prove, marcos sa dami nang projects hindi ma prove yung sinasabi na $28B na iniwan kasi madami doon existing pa at hindi pinatakbo at pinalalabas na nakaw ang mga infrastructure..hehe

[killernoodle]

^ so passionate, very passionate in defending marcos, ferdinand and bongbong, anong mapapala mo sa kakadefend ng patay na, ik@w naman tanungin namin

wag mo ng ligawin ang isipan ng new generation, old generation nasentensyahan na sila, if they are that good walang makikitang butas sa kanila, pero ang dami overwhelming sobra sobra kasamaan, that is their reputation, alangan naman bigla na lang silang tatawaging masama na walang dahilan, pinatalsik sila ng tao, kakahiya, a bright mind nautakan ng taong bayan ganun ba iyon? or a dictator toppled by the people

kahit ilang taon ka pa mag-rule hindi ka mapapatalsik ng taong bayan kung wala namang masasabing masama sa iyo, para ito sa mga new generation, hindi ito para sa mga bayaran, dahil you manipulate the truth, madami siyang nagawa para sa bayan, kung si erap nga may nagawa si marcos pa for 20 years

[PangitQuest]

^ so passionate, very passionate in defending marcos, ferdinand and bongbong, anong mapapala mo sa kakadefend ng patay na, ik@w naman tanungin namin

wag mo ng ligawin ang isipan ng new generation, old generation nasentensyahan na sila, if they are that good walang makikitang butas sa kanila, pero ang dami overwhelming sobra sobra kasamaan, that is their reputation, alangan naman bigla na lang silang tatawaging masama na walang dahilan, pinatalsik sila ng tao, kakahiya, a bright mind nautakan ng taong bayan ganun ba iyon? or a dictator toppled by the people

kahit ilang taon ka pa mag-rule hindi ka mapapatalsik ng taong bayan kung wala namang masasabing masama sa iyo, para ito sa mga new generation, hindi ito para sa mga bayaran, dahil you manipulate the truth, madami siyang nagawa para sa bayan, kung si erap nga may nagawa si marcos pa for 20 years

nasagot ko na yan, at kaya paulit ulit ko na lang din sinasabi, ikaw na din nag sabi ano mapapala ko kasi patay na sila, ano din mapapala nyo kung patay na sila para ituro sa mga kasalanan na ang iba hindi sila ang gumawa, nangyayari sa bansa natin hindi maka move on kasi sa turuan, now patay na si marcos diba, buhay si GMA, ano ang ginagawa ni noynoy ngayon, same sa ginawa ninyo nila cory, kung time ni cory ang turo si marcos sa mga kapalpakan nya, now ano ang ginagawa nang anak, yung kapalpakan nya ang tinuturo si GMA...

we all know na me mga mali si macoy, pero dont be blinded na wala yan nagawa, even si cory ang daming mali pero ano ginagawa nyo nag bubulag bulagan kayo, tapos ang turo si marcos, now we want justice sa ginawa ni GMA, pero ano nangyayari, justice lang ba ang aatupagin or bansa, nandyan na yung truth commision kuno pero ayaw pa din tigilan si GMA, let justice prevail at pabayaan ito umusad, now gawin ang dapat sa bansa, as of right now nakapako pa ang pinoy sa past dahil lang sa mga pinalabas na kasinungalingan dati, now am I twisting the truth or the people who wants power are the ones twisting it, ano mapapala ko kung mapatunayan ko na walang kasalanan si makoy, me pera ba ako dyan, me posisyon ba ako dyan, wala...

pero sino ang mga nakikinabang dyan, stop sour graping on the past and move on, $28b ang utang na iniwan daw ni makoy, hindi pa inaawas ang mga sinayang na project ni cory dyan like BNPP, now magkano utang ngayon, $90B pataas, so bakit yung $62B pataas hindi nyo hanapin or ayaw nyo hanapin, mas madali kasi point ang patay kesa sa buhay na pwede pa habulin ano?

and dont make me laugh about our new generation, mas me utak ngayon yan, lalo pa andyan ang internet, I dont need to do anything nasa internet na ang lahat nang gusto nila malaman if they want to find the truth, hindi kagaya nyo na nasaktan nang panahon na yon at hindi pa maka move on, buti ako nakawala sa web of hatred na ginawa nang mga peke nyong bayani na kumunista pala at tatay traidor nang bansa, astig ano, at nasa net yan kung hahanapin nyo nang mabuti?

EDIT:
ito nung isang araw me nag post nito, baka ito isa sa sagot na gusto mo malaman sa pag papaalis ke marcos..hehe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnHx1QXU7gg

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^ so passionate, very passionate in defending marcos, ferdinand and bongbong, anong mapapala mo sa kakadefend ng patay na, ik@w naman tanungin namin

wag mo ng ligawin ang isipan ng new generation, old generation nasentensyahan na sila, if they are that good walang makikitang butas sa kanila, pero ang dami overwhelming sobra sobra kasamaan, that is their reputation, alangan naman bigla na lang silang tatawaging masama na walang dahilan, pinatalsik sila ng tao, kakahiya, a bright mind nautakan ng taong bayan ganun ba iyon? or a dictator toppled by the people

kahit ilang taon ka pa mag-rule hindi ka mapapatalsik ng taong bayan kung wala namang masasabing masama sa iyo, para ito sa mga new generation, hindi ito para sa mga bayaran, dahil you manipulate the truth, madami siyang nagawa para sa bayan, kung si erap nga may nagawa si marcos pa for 20 years

may punto naman siya,

despite my young age, I was a staunch anti-Marcos during those times at sunod nang sunod kung ano ang sinabi, lalo ng corporate media machinery na masamang tao raw siya.

now it is the internet age, and many things are being revealed that the previous decades cannot due to limited technology. Definitely he is not a perfect person, nor did Philippine society during his time, but go beyond your biases if you genuinely seek for truth, and decipher the sinister workings of another hidden force involved, then you will see a bigger picture.

On the contrary, it's obsolete viewpoints like yours that's disturbing. Niligaw ka nila noon, huwag mong sabihin inuto ka pa rin hanggang ngayon.

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may hindi pa rin convinced sa World's Ten Most Corrupt Leaders.

saka kung bakit napasama sa guiness book of records.

[PangitQuest]

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dali naman nang problema mo dyan, common sense lang yan e, sabihin mo lang sa kanila at me mga mag sabi na ilan tao pwede ka na ilagay doon sa GBWR, problem kasi kung napatunayan, halos wala nga mapatunayan sa bintang sa kanila sa korte tapos paniniwalaan ang isang libro na wala din facts sa record nila..

even si erap pinalagay nila, hindi naman sa kaban nang bayan yun kung hindi jueteng na illegal gambling, pilit lang din nila pinaalis si erap kasi mga mga taong nasagasaan sya, baka isa din kaya yan pinaalis kasi pinalabas nya ang US dito sa atin, pork barrel pinigilan at iba pa, kaya kesa maniwala gamitin minsan ang utak, kaya nga me utak ang tao hindi para tambakan nang kasinungalingan kung hindi ang gamit nang utak ay para gamitin sa pag iisip..

[manilaB]

may hindi pa rin convinced sa World's Ten Most Corrupt Leaders.

saka kung bakit napasama sa guiness book of records.

ABSWELTO sa halos isang libong kaso, kasama pa ang Trial of the Century, tapos magpapaniwala parin sa GBWR.

[Gunnar]

Laki pala ng tax evasion ni Bongbong. hehehe mahal pa ang second hand na kotse

[manilaB]

Laki pala ng tax evasion ni Bongbong. hehehe mahal pa ang second hand na kotse

wala sa poder pero nalusutan. ang nasa tama lang ang makakagawa noon.

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The Greediest of All Time

http://www.newsweek.com/photo/2009/0...-all-time.html