Which of the auditing firms is the best employer?

[purplepearl]

Please do consider factors like compensation, career growth, training, etc. I'm also interested to know how they are treating fresh grad new hires (i.e. is there a proper orientation, mentoring program, and the like). Thank you!

[Sincerit_y]

any firm from big4, but TOXIC

[Cendrick]

any firm from big4, but TOXIC

I agree with you, Sincerit_y..

Toxic but worthy to start with as a new CPA... Although salary & benefits are not that high as in Commerce and Industry practice, advantage includes exposure in actual audit/assurance/internal audit services by a CPA...exposure in various systems, industries, different people, appreciation of the auditing standards/procedures..It's really a fulfilling start of CPA Career.

With the big CPA firms here in the Philippines, affiliation with BIG CPA Firm worldwide (EY, Deloitte, PWC and KPMG), dami resources ng mga ideas/knowledge as compared sa small CPA Firms...audit tools magaganda at mga procedures talaga eh maaappreciate mo... and after mo magwork sa big CPA firms here, okay na okay ang offer sa aapplyan mo...dala mo name nila...

[jayr_emlano]

If you're the type who doesn't mind losing a big chunk of your social life, or just you life in general then go to an auditing firm. But it all depends in the service line which you will be working on. The most notorious of which is the mainline AUDIT. Again, if you're accustomed to having no night life at all, then go ahead.

If you still want to work in one of the big 4 firms, and want a balanced life, I will have to suggest that you try other service lines. Like Tax or IT-audit.

[lockex]

Nightlife is overrated anyway. Masaya pa rin umalis ng office ng 11 pm (maaga!) diretso ng inuman ng 12 mn inom hanggang 2 am uwi ng bahay ng 3am gising ng 6am para pumasok ng 8am. Ah.. love the audit life.

[kleenexlambot]

Nightlife is overrated anyway. Masaya pa rin umalis ng office ng 11 pm (maaga!) diretso ng inuman ng 12 mn inom hanggang 2 am uwi ng bahay ng 3am gising ng 6am para pumasok ng 8am. Ah.. love the audit life.

kaya pala pumuputok mga accounts mo LOL joke

[nurseharbee]

syempre its SGV & Co... hehehhe...im a not a CPA, but my ate works in SGV for 10 years now hehe. He was borrowed by EY Australia and now he's back with SGV heheh. Salary is not that big when your still a staff. My ate started at SGV receiving less than 10k per month...now her salary is x 10 to her first salary in that firm... hehe

[Cendrick]

Nightlife is overrated anyway. Masaya pa rin umalis ng office ng 11 pm (maaga!) diretso ng inuman ng 12 mn inom hanggang 2 am uwi ng bahay ng 3am gising ng 6am para pumasok ng 8am. Ah.. love the audit life.

kaya pala pumuputok mga accounts mo LOL joke

nice one, kleenexlambot... baka hindi lang pumututok, sumasabog talaga... biro lang, lockex...

napansin ko lang sa auditing firm, di naman talaga kelangan magstay ng late for work eh, naging tradisyon na lang...and nagiging basehan ng mga seniors/managers/partners na pag late ka umuwi, masipag ka, okay ka...di kase minemeasure sa output...nasasacrifice efficiency, kase magwowork kang sobrang late sa gabi minsan 'til dawn, then kinabukasan makikita mo dami mo pala errors kase di masyado naging okay brain mo last night nun...ewan ko ba kung bakit proud na proud pa mga nagwowork ng sobrang late, parang accomplishment pa ang magwork na late..impression sa sarili eh "ang galing galing ko".... efficiency lang naman and productivity dapat para di na kelangan magwork ng late...and hindi masacrifice ang helath and social life...

[Cendrick]

try nyo nga pala basahin article na to and please comment... sa mga auditors and accountants here, let's try to discuss this here:

auditors

[Cendrick]

nice one, kleenexlambot... baka hindi lang pumututok, sumasabog talaga... biro lang, lockex...

napansin ko lang sa auditing firm, di naman talaga kelangan magstay ng late for work eh, naging tradisyon na lang...and nagiging basehan ng mga seniors/managers/partners na pag late ka umuwi, masipag ka, okay ka...di kase minemeasure sa output...nasasacrifice efficiency, kase magwowork kang sobrang late sa gabi minsan 'til dawn, then kinabukasan makikita mo dami mo pala errors kase di masyado naging okay brain mo last night nun...ewan ko ba kung bakit proud na proud pa mga nagwowork ng sobrang late, parang accomplishment pa ang magwork na late..impression sa sarili eh "ang galing galing ko".... efficiency lang naman and productivity dapat para di na kelangan magwork ng late...and hindi masacrifice ang helath and social life...

wrong spelling pa ako.. sorry.. it's "health" instead of helath...

[purplepearl]

Thank you sa mga nagpost!

I think I am already decided to join an auditing firm, but not yet sure kung saang service line. Here are my options: SGV & Co., Manabat Sanagusting, Isla Lipana and P&A.

May mga kakilala po ba kayo na nagwork sa mga auditing firms na ito? We conducted a study about SGV's organizational culture last sem and I think interesting to start my career in SGV. But what are the pros and cons in working for them and not with other auditing firms? Thank you!

[mymac]

Malaki ba advantage nung mga nagtatop sa preboard? Kasi sila nakakareceive lagi ng mga letters from different accounting firms?..kainggit..ahehe

[Cendrick]

Malaki ba advantage nung mga nagtatop sa preboard? Kasi sila nakakareceive lagi ng mga letters from different accounting firms?..kainggit..ahehe

advantage nila is may invitation sila from Audit Firms...nung time ko, di ko pinuntahan audit firms na nag-invite sa 'kin...kase di pa naman ako CPA noon.. pero I've heard na parang okay ka na pag pumunta sa kanila pag ininvite ka...kelangan mo na lang eh ipasa ang exam...pero sabi lang nila 'yun, ha..di ko gaano sure...medyo nagregret din ako, kase if tunay yun, sana di na ko nagpakahirap apply pa.. hehe..

[kleenexlambot]

nice one, kleenexlambot... baka hindi lang pumututok, sumasabog talaga... biro lang, lockex...

napansin ko lang sa auditing firm, di naman talaga kelangan magstay ng late for work eh, naging tradisyon na lang...and nagiging basehan ng mga seniors/managers/partners na pag late ka umuwi, masipag ka, okay ka...di kase minemeasure sa output...nasasacrifice efficiency, kase magwowork kang sobrang late sa gabi minsan 'til dawn, then kinabukasan makikita mo dami mo pala errors kase di masyado naging okay brain mo last night nun...ewan ko ba kung bakit proud na proud pa mga nagwowork ng sobrang late, parang accomplishment pa ang magwork na late..impression sa sarili eh "ang galing galing ko".... efficiency lang naman and productivity dapat para di na kelangan magwork ng late...and hindi masacrifice ang helath and social life...

during my time ha, documentation usually sa gabi. saka madalas yung mga manager sa gabi nag rereview therefore hindi talaga maiwasan ang OT. there was no choice, nama mate ang mga hindi nag o OT kasi hindi ma meet ang deadline.

pero kasama pa kasi yung dinner 1 - 2 hours so balik ng office (ayala) mga 8-9 na. pero hindi pa uso internet saka cellphone nun therefore wala kaming sayang na oras from facebook, sms, etc etc.

there are ways to cut down on OT, pero minimal lang siguro 1 hour per day ang ma sa save among my peers dami kasing accounts.

5 years din ako sa practice. ng umalis ako at mag abroad to join an FMCG, dun ko na realize na grabe pala ang workload ng isang auditor. sabi ng bagong boss ko, bakit daw tinapos ko yung 5 days worth of work in 1 day. nga pala, yung mga auditor naman namin dito sa abroad, nag o OT din sila pero usually hanggang 7 lang, grabe na pag inabot ng 8.

well to the TS, maghanap ka ng audit firm na malawak ang client base.

[mymac]

advantage nila is may invitation sila from Audit Firms...nung time ko, di ko pinuntahan audit firms na nag-invite sa 'kin...kase di pa naman ako CPA noon.. pero I've heard na parang okay ka na pag pumunta sa kanila pag ininvite ka...kelangan mo na lang eh ipasa ang exam...pero sabi lang nila 'yun, ha..di ko gaano sure...medyo nagregret din ako, kase if tunay yun, sana di na ko nagpakahirap apply pa.. hehe..

ahh ganun po? hindi na ba nagagamit yung invitation kunwari ngayon mo nareceive(for May) kaso sa october pa mageexam? gb

[nestea1212]

whole year round ba talagang everyday ang OT or if busy season lang? gusto ko kasing magwork sa auditing firm pero parang di ko kaya kung everyday ang OT. anong line of service ba ang pinaka-less ang OT?

[Sincerit_y]

reminders sa mga gustong mag-audit firm

immediately right after board exam, kuhain nyo agad grade nyo

at kung pumasa naman, diretso agad makati, then take employment

exam

swertehan din sa big4 audit employment , kaya galingan nyo sa interview ha..

[lost_soul312002]

Halos pare-pareho lang naman ang Big4 firms in terms of workload and compensation. The only advice that I can give are:

1.) alamin mong mabuti kung desidido ka talagang mag-audit firm. kung aalis ka rin lang after 6 months or one year, nagsayang ka lang ng oras mo. wala pang gaanong premium kumbaga.

2.) sa pagpili ng firm na papasukan, piliin mo yung babagay sa preference mo. iba-iba ng atmosphere ang Big4. Merong strict at may not-so-strict.

3.) Alamin ang mga sistema ng career progression ng bawat firm. Alamin din ang mga industry clients na meron sila. You are entering an audit firm mostly due to the training and exposure so be sure na mahahagip ang interest mo.

4.) and lastly, assess your finances. starting a career in audit is really an investment at the first years. wag ka mag demand ng bonggang bonggang salary.

[kaye_82]

Hello there, ok ba mag work sa Tax group ng Isla Lipana & Co, a member firm of Pricewaterhouse Coopers?
Feedback is highly appreciated.

[Cendrick]

whole year round ba talagang everyday ang OT or if busy season lang? gusto ko kasing magwork sa auditing firm pero parang di ko kaya kung everyday ang OT. anong line of service ba ang pinaka-less ang OT?

pag Busy season lang naman... kung gusto mo na less ang OT during busy season, sa mga TSRS ka, sila yung group na nagtetest of control ng mga accounting systems,...sila nauuna sa mga significant clients para itest and malaman kung magiging extensive or less extensive ang gagawing audit procedures...

during busy season ng mga audit staff, di na sila masyado busy..tumutulong tulong na lang..pero may mga training sila syempre...nagtetake din sila ng CISA Exam...