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  1. #61
    cyberbunutan? do expound on the subject!

  2. #62
    ^^ giyera ng mga fans ng schools dito sa forum...

  3. #63
    Ah ok, hehehe! Sanay nako diyan! Naka-handa na ang walis, mop, basahan, vaccum, feather duster, hose, scotchbrite, toothpaste, scrub, lysol, baygon, muriatic acid, cleanser, clorox, eraser, at liquid paper.

  4. #64
    ^^ok...

    let the war begin...

    goodluck this season...

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  6. #65
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    Mr. Moderator,

    What do you think of making a "Basurahan Thread"?
    It's a no holds bar thread, where bashing and flamebaiting are allowed.

    Para di na din madumihan yun matitinong thread!
    Pero yun text speak dapat di pa din iallowed.

  7. #66
    ^Naisip ko din yan. Para doon na lang pupunta kung hindi naman maganda sasabihin. Kung ayaw mo makabasa ng masama, eh wag pumunta. If you're in the mood for a word war, eh doon diretso.

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    baka 1000 replies agad yun sa first week!

  9. #68
    Sigurado ba kayo sa request ninyo?

    You want me to create a haven thread for trolls, flamers, and pexers with an itch to scratch? And you guys want to open a virtual pandora's box (or thread for that matter) that is simply against our covenant to keep this forum free from ad hominems, hasty generalizations, fallible arguments, and go straight to the gutter and flush down to the sewers to fulfill repressed collegiate rivalry hormones and pissing contests?

    If I approved such a thread, you can expect more than what you bargained for, and we will all be at the losing end because eventually, it will have to stop somewhere. And when it goes beyond the thread and spreads to the other threads, what happens? You guys come crying to me and beg me to close it, to let the madness end? But then again, if it's the will of the majority or the occasion calls for it, I might reconsider.

    Maybe we should make a poll?

  10. #69
    It's just a thought. I'd like to see what other NCAA PEXers think. For me, magaling na yung sa isang thread na sila magkagulo kesa naman magulo yung mga school threads diba? I think it's a win-win situation.

    1. Kung matino ka na PEXer at ayaw mo ng nagkakabastusan na, eh wag mo nalang puntahan yung thread. At least yung mga school threads eh malinis ang conversation. We can actually have an intelligent conversation na walang sisingit ng sablay na hirit. Kung meron pa, eh ibang level na ng kabastusan yun.

    2. Kung makati ang daliri mo at gusto mo lagi maghanap ng cyber-away, doon ka pumunta sa thread. Doon na sila magkagulo pare pareho naman sila. They'll have fun and they'll satisfy the itch without messing the other threads.

    Again, it's just a thought.

  11. #70

    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by MakaveliLives View Post
    It's just a thought. I'd like to see what other NCAA PEXers think. For me, magaling na yung sa isang thread na sila magkagulo kesa naman magulo yung mga school threads diba? I think it's a win-win situation.
    Ah, but there lies the problem! It's not a simple win-win situation for all schools since you've opened one single venue for the others (meaning trolls, alternicks, etc.) to barge in and eventually, follow the rest in their respective turf threads if they want to say their last piece about you or your school. You can't expect me to clean something you guys started in one area and moves to your respective threads, right? And these creatures do not follow netiquette as you will already notice. Futile posts make more futile trash wherever you go.

    1. Kung matino ka na PEXer at ayaw mo ng nagkakabastusan na, eh wag mo nalang puntahan yung thread. At least yung mga school threads eh malinis ang conversation. We can actually have an intelligent conversation na walang sisingit ng sablay na hirit. Kung meron pa, eh ibang level na ng kabastusan yun.
    This one applies to regular NCAA PExers with issues. Unfortunately, mirons, lurkers, and trigger-happy trolls will finally have an excuse to cross borderlines. And this means more cleaning for me. You think that's fair?

    2. Kung makati ang daliri mo at gusto mo lagi maghanap ng cyber-away, doon ka pumunta sa thread. Doon na sila magkagulo pare pareho naman sila. They'll have fun and they'll satisfy the itch without messing the other threads.

    Again, it's just a thought.
    You thought is duly noted but let me say one thing clear, once you start the flamefest party, it ain't stopping until everyone is satisfied. And it is ironic because we know year in year out, it's never suffice for the ones who can't stop replying to flame posts until I take over and do the janitorial duties. The cycle of cyber-away is simply unavoidable but it can be repressed. It's insane and dangerous because it will bite you in the rear end and you and your opponent will leave one big pile of TRASH everywhere. If you can regulate trolls here to stay in one thread then I'll be happy to oblige, but that's wishful thinking.

    And you prefer to legalize degenerative discussions? We already have more of those trashy posts in the other forums, let's keep this forum safe. This is for the sake of the real newbie pexers who have higher aspirations of decent dialogue.

  12. #71
    As I've said, it's just a thought. It's a high-risk, high-reward situation. I guess I'm relying on the thought that it's not going to spill over to the other school threads. I guess I'm putting too much faith on my fellow NCAA PEXers.

  13. #72
    ok lang sakin yung may basura thread para hindi mababoy school support threads dito sa NCAA section. imbes na lagi nalang nagde-delete si AltarBoy ng mga basurang post ilipat niya dun para magkalat ang mga trolls. pwede ba yun Mod?

  14. #73
    Ganito na lang Mak, mag-open ka ng Thread and I will approve it. Let's take your school experiment to the test, disregard mo muna ang poll na nilagay ko and we'll take it from there.

  15. #74
    ^Done! Feel free to edit the first post with any additional rules. As I've mentioned there, you reserve the right to close the thread at any time.

  16. #75
    I only have one thing to say, if the war goes into another thread then I invoke my right not to intercede, you have to police your own threads and make sure they don't spoil further. I will only start cleaning when everyone requests that the War Zone Thread be closed.

  17. #76
    Well who knows? Malay mo walang pumansin sa War Zone thread at mapahiya. Yung ibang trolls naman kase eh makapangulit lang. Kapag sinabi na okay na mang troll baka naman tamadin.

    Saka it's a given na may trolls pa din na maliligaw sa mga ibang threads. We're just hoping na mabawasan. Kung matuloy man ang kinakatakot mo na lalo makagulo, then just close the thread. It's as simple as that.

  18. #77
    So now you understand why it's better to declare Open Season? You can't sell the idea of War if you limit the battlefield. Because in War, nobody draws the line, not anymore. The consequences of war is loss on both sides in any area possible to outflank the opponent. The only consolation is a Special Olympics Gold Medal.

    Take my offer of LOA or Non-Interference until the season is over, maybe that's the only solution for everyone's itch! Besides, it's just like Aliens vs Predators, whoever wins, we lose.

  19. #78
    Somehow, I don't feel that we're on the same page on this. You're basically giving up already on the idea and just declaring open season. So even if the thread hasn't started yet, it has already failed in your opinion. So why bother? Just close the thread. You're basically hoping that it fails to make a point.

    Things will spill over to the other threads and that's what you're here for. You're supposed to clean it if it does. The point is, there should be lesser flame posts if things go according to plan. Let's say that we have 5 avid cyberwarriors here. If 4 of them decide to make use of the war room, then that's 4 less headaches for you and for all of us. If someone does break the rule and goes over to the other threads, don't you think it's worth it considering that the number of flame posts have been decreased? That's my point.

    This is just a suggestion that I felt could help the NCAA thread as a whole. You don't want accountability and you just want to take an LOA or something. Of course it's going to fail. You're supposed to clean up the LESSER flame posts if things spill over. If you don't want to take accountability and do your job, then of course it's going to fail. I just don't get why you keep on insisting to just make it an open season while you take a "vacation". What, so you can say "I told you so" if things don't go according to plan?

    I don't understand why you're giving it a go signal but you don't want to help. You're saying that there's a democracy but we're not getting the support needed.

    I don't get what's so hard to understand.

    1. We made a flame thread where trolls can go to bash OTHER TROLLS. In doing so, we're hoping that the flame posts will be decreased significantly on other threads.
    2. Legitimate posters don't mind them and they go on posting on legitimate threads. Hopefully, they won't be interrupted by flame posts because they already have a place where they can do that.
    3. With the flamebaiters having a great day at the inboundpass-like thread, mahiya naman sila kung manggulo pa sila sa ibang threads.
    4. If things go according to plan, everybody's happy. Hindi natin sila papakialaman at ganun din sila.
    5. If someone decides to post a flamebait post in a good thread, he'll be referred to the War Zone. Kung magpatuloy siya, that's where you're supposed to do your job. Can you see how this is going to lessen your job? Why can't you commit into doing it? Instead, you're declaring it open season. Tapos you're setting it up for failure by not committing to doing your job.

    We made a suggestion and you're leaving us to fend for ourselves. This is not a democracy. You're basically letting us do it without your support so we can fail at this noble cause. Just delete the thread if that's the case and let's just do it your way.

    Oh and since you made a reference to a real war, it is possible even in a real war. If I'm not mistaken, there are things that are not supposed to be attacked. Think of the legitimate posters as civilians and the flamebaiters as the soldiers. They're not supposed to attack civilians in a neutral ground. Ang aatakehin lang nilang lugar eh yung merong mga kalabang sundalo. If they violate this, UN steps in. You are supposed to be the UN.

  20. #79
    Pahabol:

    Simple lang naman request namin. Let's try it with your full accountability. If you don't want to be held accountable, then huwag nating gawin.

    If we do have your commitment, you don't even have to mind the flamebaiting thread. Just continue doing your job with the other threads. Kung merong maligaw na flamebait post dun, delete the post and refer him to the War Zone. Kung sa tingin mo mas dumami ang flamebait posts dahil ng War Zone, close it. We tried it and we failed. But it was worth a try.

  21. #80

    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by MakaveliLives View Post
    Somehow, I don't feel that we're on the same page on this. You're basically giving up already on the idea and just declaring open season. So even if the thread hasn't started yet, it has already failed in your opinion. So why bother? Just close the thread. You're basically hoping that it fails to make a point.
    If I gave up, I wouldn't be authorizing your War Zone thread. I'm not hoping that it fails because it already is a FAIL THREAD, get it?

    Things will spill over to the other threads and that's what you're here for. You're supposed to clean it if it does. The point is, there should be lesser flame posts if things go according to plan. Let's say that we have 5 avid cyberwarriors here. If 4 of them decide to make use of the war room, then that's 4 less headaches for you and for all of us. If someone does break the rule and goes over to the other threads, don't you think it's worth it considering that the number of flame posts have been decreased? That's my point.
    Point taken.

    This is just a suggestion that I felt could help the NCAA thread as a whole. You don't want accountability and you just want to take an LOA or something. Of course it's going to fail. You're supposed to clean up the LESSER flame posts if things spill over. If you don't want to take accountability and do your job, then of course it's going to fail. I just don't get why you keep on insisting to just make it an open season while you take a "vacation". What, so you can say "I told you so" if things don't go according to plan?
    It's not that I wanna say that I told you so, it's because we are treading that GREY AREA by challenging norms and willfully violating PEx User Agreement. Thus, making my moderator powers irrelevant. Again we go back to the saying the Law applies to All and I mean the one that we have here in our forum.

    I don't understand why you're giving it a go signal but you don't want to help. You're saying that there's a democracy but we're not getting the support needed.
    I supported and approved the War Zone thread because I want to believe that it can work. Why do you see this as a sign of defeat? You know better than anyone how I handle things. You just gotta have faith and wait for a few more days. And for your thread to be successful, I have to pave the way and let them come in.

    I don't get what's so hard to understand.
    What's there to understand when you want to open War?

    1. We made a flame thread where trolls can go to bash OTHER TROLLS. In doing so, we're hoping that the flame posts will be decreased significantly on other threads.
    2. Legitimate posters don't mind them and they go on posting on legitimate threads. Hopefully, they won't be interrupted by flame posts because they already have a place where they can do that.
    3. With the flamebaiters having a great day at the inboundpass-like thread, mahiya naman sila kung manggulo pa sila sa ibang threads.
    4. If things go according to plan, everybody's happy. Hindi natin sila papakialaman at ganun din sila.
    5. If someone decides to post a flamebait post in a good thread, he'll be referred to the War Zone. Kung magpatuloy siya, that's where you're supposed to do your job. Can you see how this is going to lessen your job? Why can't you commit into doing it? Instead, you're declaring it open season. Tapos you're setting it up for failure by not committing to doing your job.
    1. Approved already.

    2. I want to be confident that it doesn't spill over, what bothers me is that some of those who took the bait might end up in the PEx trashbin because of the War. Regardless if it's a regular or a troll pexer.

    3. Crossing my fingers.

    4. Again crossing fingers.

    5. To merge posts within the War Thread was also what I had in mind. It's a neat trick really, and this is the back-up plan I presume?

    We made a suggestion and you're leaving us to fend for ourselves. This is not a democracy. You're basically letting us do it without your support so we can fail at this noble cause. Just delete the thread if that's the case and let's just do it your way.
    I'm already making leeway by approving it even the poll shows that majority wanted the BLUE PILL. There is nothing noble about putting up a FAIL THREAD but I wanna believe that your CONTAINMENT PLAN works. Somehow.

    Oh and since you made a reference to a real war, it is possible even in a real war. If I'm not mistaken, there are things that are not supposed to be attacked. Think of the legitimate posters as civilians and the flamebaiters as the soldiers. They're not supposed to attack civilians in a neutral ground. Ang aatakehin lang nilang lugar eh yung merong mga kalabang sundalo. If they violate this, UN steps in. You are supposed to be the UN.
    Flamebaiters are the equivalent of cyber-terrorists, not the soldiers (they may or may not be technically anti-trolls). Non-conventional warfare is the main ingredient of any ruthless troll out to sow confusion and hatred in a forum. It doesn't spare soldier nor innocent civilians in achieving its goal. Maybe you were referring to "traditional" warfare wherein it's all like chess pieces but it doesn't necessarily apply here.

    And usually, the UN acts when an attacked country (or school thread) is already in a state of emergency. It also means I get a virtual LOA or "time out" which is not necessarily as long as you would think because it all depends upon those who took this cause to defend and fight off the trolls in a FAIL THREAD. Hold the fort like Aragorn with your Gimli and Legolass. And I'll be like Gandalf minus the rest of the Riders of Rohan rescuing you from Helm's Deep!

    Just remember that old Kevin Bacon game:

    NCAA WAR THREAD = WAR WITH TROLLS = WAR = FAILURE TO RECONCILE DIFFERENCES = FAIL = FAIL THREAD

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