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  1. #341
    i'm immortal tupangusa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AltarBoy^_^ View Post
    Don't you get it by now? You can flame in your own turf thread and no counter-flaming is allowed. The moment an intruder comes in, that's when you call for my intervention. You can talk about anything under the sun in your own turf.

    If I deleted his posts, I would have to do a more extensive clean-up in your own turf for posting insulting shots at school reps, Sebastinian pexers, and other flamebait posts.
    i really dont get it.

    ito kasi sabi sa user agreement

    h. "Flaming," or lashing out at other participants is strictly forbidden. Proper etiquette is required for participation in PinoyExchange.com.
    j. "Trolling," or posting insulting or deliberately divisive threads/replies for the purpose of (1) harvesting retaliatory insults and flames, or (2) throwing off the balance of the forum, is also disallowed
    .

    siguro di ko lang talaga kabisado or alam ang power ng isang moderator..pero if you have time please direct me to a specific admin policy that gives a moderator the authority to adjust certain policy just like the now imposed turf thread rule..madami rin siguro na-co-confuse kung ano iyan.

    thanks!
    Last edited by tupangusa; Sep 14, 2011 at 09:40 PM.

  2. #342
    Quote Originally Posted by tupangusa View Post
    i really dont get it...and siguro i learned my lessons na rin...tamplasan din ako dati..alam mo yan.


    pero ito kasi sabi sa user agreement

    h. "Flaming," or lashing out at other participants is strictly forbidden. Proper etiquette is required for participation in PinoyExchange.com.
    j. "Trolling," or posting insulting or deliberately divisive threads/replies for the purpose of (1) harvesting retaliatory insults and flames, or (2) throwing off the balance of the forum, is also disallowed
    .

    siguro di ko lang talaga kabisado or alam ang power ng isang moderator..pero if you have time please direct me to a specific admin policy that gives a moderator to adjust certain policy just like the now imposed turf thread rule..madami rin siguro na-co-confuse kung ano iyan.

    thanks!
    Hindi ka dapat ma-confuse. Kapag nasa iyong "teritoryo" ka, you can get away with almost anything you would have to say about anybody besides your school. Mods give leeway to such expressions of disgust, anger, disappointment, hatred, or simply flaming your specific target team but only if it is done in your own backyard. Bakit ka pa lalayo sa paghanap ng flexibility in rules when it is already done in the other side whenever Ateneans and Lasallians do their usual verbal jabs at each other (aka Trollin' & Flamin'). The difference is that moderators intervene when discussions get out of hand rarely. Take note, when it is out of hand. In some ways, the dialogue breaks down every now and then, but comes back to that normal state wherein nobody cares any longer what trolls can throw at them because some of the pexers learned to adapt. Of course Mods and Admins adapt too as much as possible because we value what everyone has to say, even uncivilized words are given a chance to be expressed except of course text-speak.

    Now in our case here, we have visitors from other schools posting subtle flames in turf threads that often disrupt the flow of discussions. We already closed down the virtual trash can as requested, so we limit the trash within the turf threads. The idea is to adapt to the environment provided and limit the hatin', gossip-mongering, flaming, and yes, even intruding without permission as I see fit. The problem that I see right now is that some of your brethren are too eager for their own good. And that is why I have to step in again, delete some posts and nip it in the bud before it gets worse. At the same time if I see a pexer from their own turf that disrupts the turf, he/she can also be subject to intervention.

    There are general rules (user agreement) and there are forum rules (as per Mod policy differs in different fora). I'm not a robot mod who automatically censors or bans you and some of your brethren and the rest here. It would totally destroy the very purpose of exchanges. And so we go back to that never-ending quote that a lot of pexers take for granted here and care not to remember. So please, remind yourselves before you post anything that recalls your upbringing, regardless of school affiliations.

    You are what you post.

    It involves taking the high road, leaving your opponents alone, never adding insult to injury, avoid sourgraping and taking potshots, or simply stop flaming for the sake of getting that much needed attention for intellectual discourse that evades you. It goes on and on and on as you may already noticed. The ironic part is it had to start from your side, again. And it had to end in a way that I have to use my delete and ban functions just to stress a point.

    And do we progress in exchanges or do we just practice the same old styles whenever the season kicks into high gear? I believe we have, that is why I need not be strict all the time and institutionalize forum rules for the satisfaction of regulars here. You may claim that your brethren make up a sizable portion of this forum, and lest you forget, we have 6-7 other schools with their own groups here. The difference is the noise content that some do in your group that leaves a lasting mark.

    We made a trash can, it doesn't work. We make Turf Thread Rule, it has to work. Otherwise, you will see me cleaning almost half of what you guys posted in your own thread, and for the rest of the turf threads to be spick and span. That is if you want to revert to the Old School style of cleaning this forum. Where the Mop, Broom, Vacuum, and Cleanser is always available. I believe maturity exists here, that is why I need not take over a class like your grade school teacher.

    I can't recall how many seasons I have been cleaning here and it's encouraging me to improve on the content and discussions, but at the same time, let you boys be little boys with slingshots, keyboard warriors wanting to capture the flag in every territory because your school pride needs a rub, armchair analysts wanting to take the coaching job, blind-item experts that Christy Fermin would blush in embarrassment, and yes flaming because you like seeing your opponents in pain and you want to be a Little Troll that could. I know you guys like the challenge every season, but it gets boring so we have to spice it up a little for the sake of having a great PEx experience. Flexibility is the key!

    And you know what saddens me, I think I can get through you when I explain a lot here or through PM! But for the rest of the newbies here. I can't recall how many of them read this thread or the Reminders. So we aim to make them see.

  3. #343
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    Quote Originally Posted by AltarBoy^_^ View Post
    Hindi ka dapat ma-confuse. Kapag nasa iyong "teritoryo" ka, you can get away with almost anything you would have to say about anybody besides your school. Mods give leeway to such expressions of disgust, anger, disappointment, hatred, or simply flaming your specific target team but only if it is done in your own backyard. Bakit ka pa lalayo sa paghanap ng flexibility in rules when it is already done in the other side whenever Ateneans and Lasallians do their usual verbal jabs at each other (aka Trollin' & Flamin'). The difference is that moderators intervene when discussions get out of hand rarely. Take note, when it is out of hand. In some ways, the dialogue breaks down every now and then, but comes back to that normal state wherein nobody cares any longer what trolls can throw at them because some of the pexers learned to adapt. Of course Mods and Admins adapt too as much as possible because we value what everyone has to say, even uncivilized words are given a chance to be expressed except of course text-speak.

    Now in our case here, we have visitors from other schools posting subtle flames in turf threads that often disrupt the flow of discussions. We already closed down the virtual trash can as requested, so we limit the trash within the turf threads. The idea is to adapt to the environment provided and limit the hatin', gossip-mongering, flaming, and yes, even intruding without permission as I see fit. The problem that I see right now is that some of your brethren are too eager for their own good. And that is why I have to step in again, delete some posts and nip it in the bud before it gets worse. At the same time if I see a pexer from their own turf that disrupts the turf, he/she can also be subject to intervention.

    There are general rules (user agreement) and there are forum rules (as per Mod policy differs in different fora). I'm not a robot mod who automatically censors or bans you and some of your brethren and the rest here. It would totally destroy the very purpose of exchanges. And so we go back to that never-ending quote that a lot of pexers take for granted here and care not to remember. So please, remind yourselves before you post anything that recalls your upbringing, regardless of school affiliations.

    You are what you post.

    It involves taking the high road, leaving your opponents alone, never adding insult to injury, avoid sourgraping and taking potshots, or simply stop flaming for the sake of getting that much needed attention for intellectual discourse that evades you. It goes on and on and on as you may already noticed. The ironic part is it had to start from your side, again. And it had to end in a way that I have to use my delete and ban functions just to stress a point.

    And do we progress in exchanges or do we just practice the same old styles whenever the season kicks into high gear? I believe we have, that is why I need not be strict all the time and institutionalize forum rules for the satisfaction of regulars here. You may claim that your brethren make up a sizable portion of this forum, and lest you forget, we have 6-7 other schools with their own groups here. The difference is the noise content that some do in your group that leaves a lasting mark.

    We made a trash can, it doesn't work. We make Turf Thread Rule, it has to work. Otherwise, you will see me cleaning almost half of what you guys posted in your own thread, and for the rest of the turf threads to be spick and span. That is if you want to revert to the Old School style of cleaning this forum. Where the Mop, Broom, Vacuum, and Cleanser is always available. I believe maturity exists here, that is why I need not take over a class like your grade school teacher.

    I can't recall how many seasons I have been cleaning here and it's encouraging me to improve on the content and discussions, but at the same time, let you boys be little boys with slingshots, keyboard warriors wanting to capture the flag in every territory because your school pride needs a rub, armchair analysts wanting to take the coaching job, blind-item experts that Christy Fermin would blush in embarrassment, and yes flaming because you like seeing your opponents in pain and you want to be a Little Troll that could. I know you guys like the challenge every season, but it gets boring so we have to spice it up a little for the sake of having a great PEx experience. Flexibility is the key!

    And you know what saddens me, I think I can get through you when I explain a lot here or through PM! But for the rest of the newbies here. I can't recall how many of them read this thread or the Reminders. So we aim to make them see.
    Ok it's now clearer to me.Thank you very much!

  4. #344
    Mod, how come you deleted the posts of our fellow Letranite dun sa thread namin (Providence)? Isn't it supposed to be the other way around? Kala ko ba pwedeng magbitaw ng satiling opinyon mo as long as you're on your own turf? I don't see any posts fishing for an argument with other schools posted by any Letranite not until one of them fished for a topic that all of us know what will be the outcome.

  5. #345
    Quote Originally Posted by sakutaru View Post
    Mod, how come you deleted the posts of our fellow Letranite dun sa thread namin (Providence)? Isn't it supposed to be the other way around? Kala ko ba pwedeng magbitaw ng satiling opinyon mo as long as you're on your own turf? I don't see any posts fishing for an argument with other schools posted by any Letranite not until one of them fished for a topic that all of us know what will be the outcome.
    Unfortunately, that was my boss, Nakura who has override functions and delete posts that do not help in any way to your Turf Thread's peace of mind. However, I will monitor more of your thread's content and let's try to avoid getting my boss' ire for the meantime! Because from what I observed, the Bedans were asking nicely in your thread regardless of the outcome.

  6. #346
    Quote Originally Posted by AltarBoy^_^ View Post
    Unfortunately, that was my boss, Nakura who has override functions and delete posts that do not help in any way to your Turf Thread's peace of mind. However, I will monitor more of your thread's content and let's try to avoid getting my boss' ire for the meantime! Because from what I observed, the Bedans were asking nicely in your thread regardless of the outcome.

    Alright . Hopefully next time, Hopefully next time the turf thread rules will be implied more. Matino naman kausap yun si providence minsan, may pagka-extreme nga lang pag PULA na ang pinaguusapan

  7. #347
    Quote Originally Posted by sakutaru View Post
    Alright . Hopefully next time, Hopefully next time the turf thread rules will be implied more. Matino naman kausap yun si providence minsan, may pagka-extreme nga lang pag PULA na ang pinaguusapan
    Matino siguro kausap pag hindi nababara ng magagandang arguments.

    Pag hindi na kinaya ng utak, nagto troll na kahit sa sariling bahay niya to deflect the arguments he can't refute. Maybe the side effect of brain hemorrhage, assuming he has one.

  8. #348
    Quote Originally Posted by sakutaru View Post
    Mod, how come you deleted the posts of our fellow Letranite dun sa thread namin (Providence)? Isn't it supposed to be the other way around? Kala ko ba pwedeng magbitaw ng satiling opinyon mo as long as you're on your own turf? I don't see any posts fishing for an argument with other schools posted by any Letranite not until one of them fished for a topic that all of us know what will be the outcome.
    In the first place, the deleted posts were not even opinions. They were childish and uncalled-for posts. You ought to know the difference.

  9. #349
    Quote Originally Posted by pinoychamps View Post
    In the first place, the deleted posts were not even opinions. They were childish and uncalled-for posts. You ought to know the difference.
    It was uncalled for but give him a break. Actually, he started going unreasonable when you fellas ganged up on him. He ain't even talking about your RLs not until the never ending issue was brought up again, He was talking about how we undervalued our own team and coach though

    I know the difference, Will it bother you to see me defend a brother? You guys do it all the time

  10. #350
    Quote Originally Posted by sakutaru View Post
    It was uncalled for but give him a break. Actually, he started going unreasonable when you fellas ganged up on him. He ain't even talking about your RLs not until the never ending issue was brought up again, He was talking about how we undervalued our own team and coach though

    I know the difference, Will it bother you to see me defend a brother? You guys do it all the time
    Thanks for the reply, bro. But please allow me to engage you on what you said.

    You say we ganged up on him.

    This is a public forum where issues and opinions are exepcted to be discussed and dissected. You post because you want people to read your opinions and thoughts, otherwise, you should just keep your opinion to yourself or don't post at all.

    If the readers see something wrong in your posts, they will try to refute, clarify or rectify them. To me, that is not ganging up. That is just the nature of a public forum. It just so happened that these people saw the fallacy in providence's posts. Those people were not even trolling. They presented their case in a respectful and logical manner. And providence unfortunately turned a blind eye on that and responded in a shameful manner.

    What can 20 or 50 people do if your opinion is fundamentally sound? It's the sense of your argument that counts and not the number of posters challenging it.

    As much as possible, we should raise the level of discussion here in pex.

    To the rest of the pexers, rest assured that we are reasonable to people who are reasonable to us. We are nice to those who are nice to us. We are courteous and polite to those who are.

    Why don't we make pex a better community?

    Pax!!!

    PS. It does not bother me at all with you coming to help your brother. That's admirable. Props to you. What I clarified was your statement asking the moderator why providence's opinions were deleted. I said those were NOT opinions.

    We guys do it all the time? Yes, that's why we love our community. But we don't come to the aid of trolling brothers, or at least those who pose as our brothers.

  11. #351
    mukhang maraming trabaho si mod ulit

  12. #352
    where is the ncaa war zone now?

  13. #353
    I am considering opening a 2012 War Zone Thread that starts with the Fil-Oil Tourney up until the end of the NCAA Basketball Season.

  14. #354
    So excited for the filoil opening on april 14. 2012. .
    Good luck to my hubby CE =)))

  15. #355
    Mod, sana may sticky thread for Ncaa season 88 in general, kung saan pwede makapag post ng ncaa season 88 related topics, news,game analysis, etc.

    Medyo mahirap mag post ng opinion sa school thread, masyadong territorial ang mga pexers sa kanilang turf, iwas gulo lang at para tuloy tuloy ang daloy ng usapan patungkol sa season 88. Salamat

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    War zoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  17. #357
    Quote Originally Posted by kaboom_mit View Post
    War zoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    Ikaw naman gulo agad hanap mo, yung thread patungkol sa ncaa season 88 in general lang ang paguusapan shempre. Yung mga mang gugulo bahala na ang moderator dun.

    Daming articles kasi patungkol sa ncaa nagkalat pero hindi mo alam kung saan mo pwede ipost para mapagusapan at para tuloy tuloy ang daloy ng usapan.

  18. #358
    Quote Originally Posted by GWARDYA View Post
    Ikaw naman gulo agad hanap mo, yung thread patungkol sa ncaa season 88 in general lang ang paguusapan shempre. Yung mga mang gugulo bahala na ang moderator dun.

    Daming articles kasi patungkol sa ncaa nagkalat pero hindi mo alam kung saan mo pwede ipost para mapagusapan at para tuloy tuloy ang daloy ng usapan.
    You do know there is that option to open a new thread! Of course, I will approve it as soon as I get back online! You don't have to rely on me to start one.

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    meron namang yung ncaa tournament thread diba?

  20. #360
    HI boss pa approve **** ginawa qng thread napadami di ko alam subject for approval ***! please approve the last one thanks!

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