Nursing seminars and trainings

[Revelations]

stalker is different from someone who knows how to use the search function.

forum stalking is what you did when you specifically searched out my posts (that are unrelated to the discussion at hand) para gamitin as artillery in your otherwise impotent postings in retaliation to mine.

ang gusto mo gawin ay attack ang personal credibility ko instead of focusing on the issues.

in the vernacular-- iwas pusoy ka

[dikonaalam]

oh sige na nga.
kailangan ng medical background ang medical transcriptionist. gaano kalalim? terminologies? procedures? diagnosis? eh MINIMAL pa yan compared sa training to become a nurse. Pag nasira computer mo, or magkaproblem sa trinatranscribe mo, hindi ka naman sobrang mag-aalala, eh try mong ang mismong tao ang magkasakit at magkaproblema.

eh di kasama ka din pala sa work force na somewhat underemployed. May BS ka in medical field, tapos medical transcriptionist ka?

FYI lang po, certificate in medical transcriptionist, or OJT lang kailangan para sa trabahong yan, kaya minimal training, pero Associate degree and/or Bachelor's degree ang kailangan para maging nurse.

sige na nga, last post ko na 'to. (for now), nakakahiya naman sa sobrang galing na MEDICAL TRANSCRIPTIONIST NA MAY BS IN A MEDICAL FIELD. HAHAHAHA

[dikonaalam]

there you go, personal credibility.
related yun, kasi nalaman kong NASA MEDICAL FIELD KA. haha

[Revelations]

ay kawawa.. eat peanuts at hindi nya naintindihan.

ang point ko sa certificates ay it will only take you as far as being noticed sa application-- pandagdag sa resume kumbaga. after that wala na. that's it.

ang weird mo.. masaya ka na nalaman mong nasa medical field ako. failed sarcasm ka. at least sa medtrans hindi na ako magpapaka-ogag dumaan sa mga trainings or magpakahirap magkaroon ng AB or BS (in nursing) plus exams in IELTS or CG or whatever examinations para lang makapagtrabaho at mabayaran IN DOLLARS. sarap nga ng buhay ng medtrans eh.. sa bahay lang ako nagtratrabaho while earning more than you guys. hahaha.. somewhat underemployed? how do you consider me as underemployed when I earn more than you in a week in what you sweat out in a month. oh.. nakalimutan ko pala. I earn more than nurse volunteers who have to pay to volunteer! at hindi ko kailangan manlait ng nurse just to state that fact.

gets mo? a certificate is only a piece of paper. kahit may certificate ako ng medtrans (btw.. I am authorized by TESDA to issue out certificates), it all boils down to the skills possessed. hehehehe. tignan natin kung kaya mo ang ginagawa ko (as one of my jobs).

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btt. "Pag nasira computer mo, or magkaproblem sa trinatranscribe mo, hindi ka naman sobrang mag-aalala, eh try mong ang mismong tao ang magkasakit at magkaproblema."

ano kaya kung wrong dose ng gamot ang itype ko ano? or wag ko ilagay na allergic ang pasyente sa penicillin? --magisip ka muna bago magsalita at lumalabas na kulang na kulang ang knowledge mo about this field.

you give yourself too much credit that it borders on narcissism. nurse is the heart and brains.. I'd like to see a hospital with only nurses on staff -- no doctors, no pharmacists, no admins, no medtech or rad techs. just pure nurses. kahit mga visiting doctors or telephone order doctors wala.

oh.. walang ganun na ospital :P

[dikonaalam]

okay, eto talaga last na.

nurses ask for allergies, kahit hindi mo yan itranscribe, tinatanong namin sa admissions.

nurses clarify doctor's order, we are trained on what medications to expect on certain diseases, we are taught about correct dosages and med administration. kaya kahit hindi mo yan isulat as a MEDICAL TRANSCRIPTIONIST, eh alam naman namin yan kasi sa amin naman talaga directed yung order, at hindi sa inyo. Sino ngayon ang narcissistic? So ngayon sa medical transcriptionist pa magrerely ang buong health care delivery system? Buti na lang i-implement na ang ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS!

hindi ko sinabing hindi mahalaga ang med tech, rad tech, CNA's, pharmacist, etc. just like nurses, they are vital to health care.


health care MAY function without a medical transcriptionist, but never without a nurse!

tanggapin mo na lang. bye!

[Revelations]

okay, eto talaga last na.

nurses ask for allergies, kahit hindi mo yan itranscribe, tinatanong namin sa admissions.

nurses clarify doctor's order, we are trained on what medications to expect on certain diseases, we are taught about correct dosages and med administration. kaya kahit hindi mo yan isulat as a MEDICAL TRANSCRIPTIONIST, eh alam naman namin yan kasi sa amin naman talaga directed yung order, at hindi sa inyo. Sino ngayon ang narcissistic? So ngayon sa medical transcriptionist pa magrerely ang buong health care delivery system? Buti na lang i-implement na ang ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS!

hindi ko sinabing hindi mahalaga ang med tech, rad tech, CNA's, pharmacist, etc. just like nurses, they are vital to health care.


health care MAY function without a medical transcriptionist, but never without a nurse!

tanggapin mo na lang. bye!

LAST NA LAST NA LAST NA!

oh gee.. one of these days kakainin mo ang sinasabi mo. vital sa health care ang ginagawa namin since may ginagawa rin kaming mga NURSES NOTES. ano kaya kung maling dose ang itype ko or maling allergy ang ilagay ko sa ADMISSIONS notes or sa CHART NOTES or sa NURSES NOTES? ikaw na mismo nagsabi na dun ka nagbabase ng orders. uso pa ba sa inyo ang puntahan at magtanong sa admissions ang details ng pasyente? di ba may records kang tinitignan?

hahahaha!!! epic fail!!!

don't tell me ang gamit nyo to relay info sa next shift ng nurses ay POST-ITS? VERBAL? or VIA SMS? kami ang record keepers. marami na ring mga ospital (both locally and abroad) ang preferred ang electronic records. hehehe.. unless gusto mo ng HANDWRITTEN notes? masmalaki ang human error when it comes to handwritten notes compared to electronic medical records. ayun.. paano kaya kung maling blood type ang ilagay ko ano?

ang angas kasi ng pagka-importansya ng nurse para sa inyo when you disregard the fact that a nurse CANNOT FUNCTION without the other healthcare professions, including med trans.

[Revelations]

hehehe.. ahh basta. I earn more than the average nurse.

in fact, it's not so hard to justify that I'm happy and glad that I'm in this field.

I get to use my medical knowledge together with my love of technology -- and I get paid for it!

[jay08]

^^san med trans compay ka nagwowork? how did you get the job? may opening pa?

[Revelations]

^^san med trans compay ka nagwowork? how did you get the job? may opening pa?

hmm.. I work at home (as I said). If you want I can refer you one of the companies I work with that hires homebased MTs, pays per line.

just send me a private message with the subject title of MT opening. kung sasabihin ko dito name ng company and location , sigurado ako dudumugin ng applicants -- thereby making YOUR chances of being accepted super small.

[Kraven]

hehehe.. ahh basta. I earn more than the average nurse.

in fact, it's not so hard to justify that I'm happy and glad that I'm in this field.

I get to use my medical knowledge together with my love of technology -- and I get paid for it!

Professional growth and satisfaction is not just about how much you "earn".

and don't you think you're being a "big frog in a small pond" by bragging ? Why go as far as compare your "salary" to that of an average Filipino nurse ? Don't get me wrong. It can be argued that some medical transcriptionist do get a relative "decent" pay pero hindi naman yun kayabang-yabang. I for one can earn a LOT more if I would pursue our family business but despite that I still choose to serve my country as a medical professional. Hindi lang naman kasi pera ang usapan dito.

Also, why the resentment towards nurses ? Yes, you gave a litany about the importance of your work as a "medical transcriptionist". But it doesn't make the work of nurses less important. On the contrary the healthcare system can live without medical transcriptionists but it can NEVER survive without nurses.

I know a lot of nurses who has the option to work as a callcenter agent or as a medical transcriptionist like you and earn a relatively higher income but refuses to do so. Why ? It's because they "love" their profession. They feel true satisfaction "caring" for their patients. They want to be "advocates". Those are attributes na kahit kailan man ay hindi mababayaran ng pera.

[Revelations]

Professional growth and satisfaction is not just about how much you "earn".

and don't you think you're being a "big frog in a small pond" by bragging ? Why go as far as compare your "salary" to that of an average Filipino nurse ? Don't get me wrong. It can be argued that some medical transcriptionist do get a relative "decent" pay pero hindi naman yun kayabang-yabang. I for one can earn a LOT more if I would pursue our family business but despite that I still choose to serve my country as a medical professional. Hindi lang naman kasi pera ang usapan dito.

Also, why the resentment towards nurses ? Yes, you gave a litany about the importance of your work as a "medical transcriptionist". But it doesn't make the work of nurses less important. On the contrary the healthcare system can live without medical transcriptionists but it can NEVER survive without nurses.

I know a lot of nurses who has the option to work as a callcenter agent or as a medical transcriptionist like you and earn a relatively higher income but refuses to do so. Why ? It's because they "love" their profession. They feel true satisfaction "caring" for their patients. They want to be "advocates". Those are attributes na kahit kailan man ay hindi mababayaran ng pera.

let's all be realistic about this. a priest and a monk needs to eat and cannot depend on charity all the time. same thing with nurses; they cannot depend on hand-outs or dole outs all the time. someone has to pay the bills somehow. charity doesn't pay the bills. you cannot treat everyone on welfare alone.

and to say that they "refuse" to do so? hahahahaha. that's the excuse given by those who sour-grape. let's be honest here. I have plenty of experiences with nurses whose main goal is not to serve but to go abroad. they refuse the callcenter and medtrans? hehehehe..

you make me laugh

hahahahaha!

I can go on and on about nurses "refusing" to earn in the callcenter or medtrans industry but the bottom line is they are ill-equipped with the knowledge and skill to be in this line of work. katulad ng isa dyan sasabihin na minimal training and OJT lang pwede na mag-medtrans. FAIL!!! sana naman bago kayo magsalita na "madali" lang at "hindi importante" ang ginagawa namin kumpara sa hands-on na trabaho ninyo (even to the extent of stating that we are "sort of underemployed") ay PAGDAANAN NYO MUNA.

bakit? have you or any other nurse acquaintance you know have experience with medical transcription? pustahan tayo, ang unang unang reaction na sasabihin nila ay "toxic" etong trabaho na eto. maspipiliin nila mag-puyat puyat at magalaga ng pasyente kaysa umupo sa harap ng computer at magtranscribe dahil "mahirap" para sa kanila ang trabaho na eto.

have you ever tried working in this industry? bago ka magsalita about medtrans, do you have experience transcribing reports? or are you telling me records and reports have no place in the practice of healthcare?

[Kraven]

let's all be realistic about this. a priest and a monk needs to eat and cannot depend on charity all the time. same thing with nurses; they cannot depend on hand-outs or dole outs all the time. someone has to pay the bills somehow. charity doesn't pay the bills. you cannot treat everyone on welfare alone.

and to say that they "refuse" to do so? hahahahaha. that's the excuse given by those who sour-grape. let's be honest here. I have plenty of experiences with nurses whose main goal is not to serve but to go abroad. they refuse the callcenter and medtrans? hehehehe..

you make me laugh

hahahahaha!

I can go on and on about nurses "refusing" to earn in the callcenter or medtrans industry but the bottom line is they are ill-equipped with the knowledge and skill to be in this line of work. katulad ng isa dyan sasabihin na minimal training and OJT lang pwede na mag-medtrans. FAIL!!! sana naman bago kayo magsalita na "madali" lang at "hindi importante" ang ginagawa namin kumpara sa hands-on na trabaho ninyo (even to the extent of stating that we are "sort of underemployed") ay PAGDAANAN NYO MUNA.

bakit? have you or any other nurse acquaintance you know have experience with medical transcription? pustahan tayo, ang unang unang reaction na sasabihin nila ay "toxic" etong trabaho na eto. maspipiliin nila mag-puyat puyat at magalaga ng pasyente kaysa umupo sa harap ng computer at magtranscribe dahil "mahirap" para sa kanila ang trabaho na eto.

have you ever tried working in this industry? bago ka magsalita about medtrans, do you have experience transcribing reports? or are you telling me records and reports have no place in the practice of healthcare?

Before going to med school, I volunteered in a government hospital to experience firsthand the nursing profession and believe me.. sitting in front of a computer and transcribing medical jargon is nowhere near "toxic" compared to the work of our nurses.

Nurses also transcribe and they call it charting. The difference ? They don't have the leisure of a deadline, they must do it on the spot. Yang ginagawa niyong pakikinig sa recorded conversation ? Ginagawa rin ng nurses yan. Yun nga lang sa kanila firsthand experience. Sa kanila, walang rewind-rewind. Sa kanila, may professional "license" na nakataya. Sa kanila, hindi pwedeng nakaupo lang habang nagtratranscribe at hindi lang puro pagsusulat ang trabaho.. may kasabay na bedside pa, assessment, medications, follow-up orders, laboratories and interventions.

To say na mahirap ang trabaho ng nurses is an understatement and even doctors would attest to that.

Let me throw your question back at you bago ka magsalita about nursing. Have you experienced being a nurse ?

[Kraven]

let's all be realistic about this. a priest and a monk needs to eat and cannot depend on charity all the time. same thing with nurses; they cannot depend on hand-outs or dole outs all the time. someone has to pay the bills somehow. charity doesn't pay the bills. you cannot treat everyone on welfare alone.

and your point is ? Who says nurses are depending on handouts or dole outs ?

Maraming nurses ang naghihirap para sa profession nila dito para sa kakarampot na sweldo. But does that make them less of a person ? You we're all high and mighty claiming that your "salary" is higher than that of an average nurse here. Does that make you a greater person ?

Eh ang average sweldo nga ng residents doctor dito sa Pilipinas is less than 20k a month. Does that make you (or your profession) better than them ?

[Revelations]

hay.. pataasan na eto ng ihi

just let me throw this question to you para palaisipan..

if you say that what an MT do is easy and very lucrative, why is it that there are thousands of job openings for MTs but only hundreds are qualified to do the job?



btw.. I once had a doctor do MT work and he admits that what we are doing is indeed "toxic" compared to doing rounds in a hospital.

marami rin ako nurses na natrain sa MT and most of them cry because of frustration over the work.

and as if hindi on the line ang pagiging MT namin if magkamali kami sa ginagawang reports?

hmm... what if I intentionally erase the antibiotic allergy of the patient? or what if I change his/her blood type? from what you said, it wouldn't matter.

and yes, I have experience being a nurse [but I'm not a nurse -- different medical field ako].

my medical knowledge + common sense = nursing.

so what's the big deal?

gosh.. nurses aren't depending on dole-outs and handouts? so sorry. I was referring to the volunteer nurses who pay to volunteer -- pandagdag sa resume in the hopes of making it abroad.

[Revelations]

hehehe.. pahabol.

natandaan ko ang sabi ng dati kong boss:

"the worse job in the world is the one that requires lifting a 40-pound @ss cheek in order to clean the @sshole -- you can't pay me enough to do that"

[Kraven]

hay.. pataasan na eto ng ihi

Glad you finally realized it, but why complain ? Isn't it you're the first one who bragged about your "huge" salary as a medical transcriptionist compared to that of an average nurse ?

just let me throw this question to you para palaisipan..

if you say that what an MT do is easy and very lucrative, why is it that there are thousands of job openings for MTs but only hundreds are qualified to do the job?

Bottomline:

It takes 4 years to be a BSN graduate and a board exam to be a registered nurse.

Meanwhile, it would only take a few months of training to be an MT.

btw.. I once had a doctor do MT work and he admits that what we are doing is indeed "toxic" compared to doing rounds in a hospital.

Ask that doctor to do some construction or fastfood work and I bet he would say the same.

I have seen doctors who studied again to become nurses. But I don't think I've ever seen a doctor who'd go lengths to transcribe the orders of another doctor, that would be weird..

and as if hindi on the line ang pagiging MT namin if magkamali kami sa ginagawang reports?

hmm... what if I intentionally erase the antibiotic allergy of the patient? or what if I change his/her blood type? from what you said, it wouldn't matter.

Ofcourse your work is important for proper documentation but causing harm to a patient because a doctor or a nurse purely relied in an MT is simply negligence. Antibiotic allergy ? Doctors will always order an intradermal test before administration. Blood Typing ? Med techs will always check ABO compatibilities right before transfusion.

and hijo, that line of reasoning is illogical and can be applied to any profession. What if your doctor prescribes you wrong meds ? What if the nurse administers improper med ? What if your taxi driver bumps a 10 wheeler truck ? What if your maid adds poison to your food ? What's the point ?

and yes, I have experience being a nurse [but I'm not a nurse -- different medical field ako].

You have experience being a doctor too without being a doctor ? How about being a judge without being a lawyer ?

my medical knowledge + common sense = nursing.

Go to PRC and claim your professional nursing license using that logic then. I guess common sense is not so common after all.

gosh.. nurses aren't depending on dole-outs and handouts? so sorry. I was referring to the volunteer nurses who pay to volunteer -- pandagdag sa resume in the hopes of making it abroad

Do you know the definition of dole-outs and handouts ? Ikaw na rin ang nagsabing nurses are the ones who "pay". A dictionary would really be helpful.

[kooleat_Ahr_En]

hehehe.. pahabol.

natandaan ko ang sabi ng dati kong boss:

"the worse job in the world is the one that requires lifting a 40-pound @ss cheek in order to clean the @sshole -- you can't pay me enough to do that"

Please lang Revelations, maawa ka naman sa mga gustong makakuha ng useful information sa mga threads dito sa pinoynursing, aba'y nakakaumay na, maging dito seminars and trainings eh kailangang mabasa kung gaano ka kagaling at gaano kamiserable ang mga nurse, off topic na ang karamihan sa posts mo..sige na magaling ka na, at wala ng nurse na makakatalo pa sa kagalingan mo.

Pero for the sake of those persons na umaaasang magiging kapakipakinabang sa kanila itong thread dito, makakatulong ka sa kanilang makatipid ng kuryente if you will limit your posts sa mga bagay na may direct connection sa topic at wag nang sumegway pa

Pasensya ka na ha, at kailangan pa kitang paalalahanan.. I'm trying to see the positive in you pero majority talaga ng ipinakikita mo ay parang hindi nababagay sa respetadong estado mo bilang isang mahusay na transcription professional at negosyante.

Pakireview na lang po iyong user conduct sa forum na ito:

h. "Flaming," or lashing out at other participants is strictly forbidden. Proper etiquette is required for participation in PinoyExchange.com.

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para hindi off topic:

for those who have not practiced their nursing profession for the last 5 years, UP-PGH DNET is also offering CNEP, a 4 month intensive clinical nursing training to help you get back on track should you decide to go back to the profession.

http://www.pgh.gov.ph/nursing

[Kraven]

hehehe.. pahabol.

natandaan ko ang sabi ng dati kong boss:

"the worse job in the world is the one that requires lifting a 40-pound @ss cheek in order to clean the @sshole -- you can't pay me enough to do that"

First. You and your boss should learn the difference between "worse" and "worst".

Second. The "thank you" and appreciation that you will get from providing care and comfort to that person with a 40 lbs *** in his/her time of need is indeed priceless.

That self-fullfillment felt by nurses and doctors is indeed incomparable and never matutumbasan ng pera.

[Revelations]

^tell that to the nurses who have no job.

priceless? mabuti sana if "satisfaction" can be eaten, can pay the bills and here you are saying that nurses don't rely on dole outs or hand-outs.

worse vs worst.. resorting to grammar attacks are we?

ahh basta. I have a job versus the hundreds of thousands of nurses who have no job, who can't even "volunteer" to be a nurse, na naghihintay na lang sa bahay for years just for the chance to go abroad.

sure, pwede naman mag-volunteer ang mga nurses in the true spirit of voluntarism but because of ambition and super low supply of jobs, they would choose the type of volunteer work that would be credited.



here's something to ponder on. ang mga nurses who go abroad are the cream of the crop. sila ang mga nafilter out sa mga unqualified and undesirables. so what does that make the hundreds of thousands of nurses who aren't hired?

they are undesirables and the unqualified, who now holds a license they cannot use-- unskilled workers kapag nagapply sa ibang fields not related to their course.

[Revelations]

Please lang Revelations, maawa ka naman sa mga gustong makakuha ng useful information sa mga threads dito sa pinoynursing, aba'y nakakaumay na, maging dito seminars and trainings eh kailangang mabasa kung gaano ka kagaling at gaano kamiserable ang mga nurse, off topic na ang karamihan sa posts mo..sige na magaling ka na, at wala ng nurse na makakatalo pa sa kagalingan mo.

Pero for the sake of those persons na umaaasang magiging kapakipakinabang sa kanila itong thread dito, makakatulong ka sa kanilang makatipid ng kuryente if you will limit your posts sa mga bagay na may direct connection sa topic at wag nang sumegway pa

Pasensya ka na ha, at kailangan pa kitang paalalahanan.. I'm trying to see the positive in you pero majority talaga ng ipinakikita mo ay parang hindi nababagay sa respetadong estado mo bilang isang mahusay na transcription professional at negosyante.

Pakireview na lang po iyong user conduct sa forum na ito:

h. "Flaming," or lashing out at other participants is strictly forbidden. Proper etiquette is required for participation in PinoyExchange.com.

j. "Trolling," or posting insulting or deliberately divisive threads/replies for the purpose of (1) harvesting retaliatory insults and flames, or (2) throwing off the balance of the forum, is also disallowed.



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para hindi off topic:

for those who have not practiced their nursing profession for the last 5 years, UP-PGH DNET is also offering CNEP, a 4 month intensive clinical nursing training to help you get back on track should you decide to go back to the profession.

http://www.pgh.gov.ph/nursing

useful information ba? what exactly is information? a google search defines information as "knowledge acquired through study or experience or instruction "

so I'm still on topic as I am discussing the NEGATIVE information. or gusto mo panay positive lang? if you consider negative information as not helpful then I will stop posting the bad aspect of nursing.

oh, and before you answer, let me remind you of what was reported years ago; particularly two news events about nursing:

the first is about elmer jacinto. the second is the nurses who walked out of the nursing home.

panay positive kasi ang tinitignan. by the time binigyan ng attention ang negative, it was too late.

so I am still on topic even though I am pointing out the negatives.

or baka gusto mo spoonfeeding lang and panay positive ang ibibigay? that would be tantamount to false advertising without giving nurses the opportunity to weigh the pros and cons.