That's because there are no "dark cabals" in complete control of the system, with them separated from the "bottom feeders." Rather, global capitalism involves increasing production and consumption of goods in return for profits, with most of those profits consisting of money, and it's the same money used to support production and consumption of goods.Originally Posted by albertus magnus
Most of the wealth of these "dark cabals" does not come in the form of "hoarded resources" but money. In order for that money to have any value, those resources need to be exploited, not hoarded. And those resources are exploited to increase sales, which in turn increases profits and supports financial speculation, which in turn enriches these "dark cabals."
In short, in order for these "dark cabals" to enrich themselves, they have to make sure that the "bottom feeders" aren't "bottom feeders."
That's why consumption of resources have been rising considerably worldwide. That's why income levels have also been going up, together with a growing middle class in BRIC and emerging markets. That's why the same "dark cabals" are moving their "wealth" to the same as demand destruction is taking place in OECD countries.
All that is needed to support a middle class lifestyle, which includes industrialization, the availability of Internet forums and infrastructure to support that, manufacturing of computers and various electronic goods, and the capital needed to finance all these and pay for their use. That's also what gives the money in your wallet and in your bank account of value, money needed to pay for electricity and computers and other things needed to access this forum, not to mention many other expenses.
That is why an abundance paradigm is critical: the "bottom feeders" have to be told that there are more than enough resources and things like "free energy," and that peak oil, global warming, and other predicaments are simply "hoaxes." That way, they will slowly move from "bottom feeders" to consumers, which is what "dark cabals" need to make sure that it's "business as usual."
It will be driven by a combination of peak oil (and generally a resource crunch), environmental damage and the effects of climate change, and a global recession due to combinations of financial speculation and consumer spending. Governments and corporations will remain "stupid" by ignoring these, maintaining that they are merely "hoaxes," and push for an "abundance paradigm" to encourage people to continue spending, again to make sure that money has value.
I think the next years will unfold as the following. The economic crises will continue to become worse and worse, whether it is by mistake after mistake of our stupid governments and bankers, or by subtle orchestration from hidden powers (the conspiracy theory) it does not matter.
The problem is that nature always bats last, no matter how many conspiracy theories are brought about to argue otherwise.
The debt problem is the tip of the iceberg. A resource crunch combined with the long-term effects of environmental damage, including climate change, will make that predicament look like a walk in the park.
The austerity measures will deepen the current recession into a new great depression, with huge numbers of unemployed and worse, social unrest. The whole debt mess is one without exit, like a cancer or like a drug addiction. It is a destructive pattern of debt and following bail outs which create new debt. I think now that there is actually a hidden orchestration by the powers that be, behind the scenes. It cannot be a mere coincidence the prosecution and exploitation of countries, by pointing at their big debt and then demanding them to ask for external aid (which is debt and a loss of sovereignty). It looks to me that this is orchestrated to cause the collapse of economy in the whole planet, and bring about a new world order. But even if the conspiracy does not exist, the current situation is one without exit. Except if the whole thing crashes and restarts again with brand new rules.
However, TPTB will subtly make it appear that the debt problem is the only thing that matters, and that it's not capitalism but greed or stupidity that is the cause of current problems.
That is why an abundance paradigm is important for TPTB, presumably because if the "dark cabals" are taken down and that "fringe" science is emphasized, then it will be a wonderful, glorious world for everyone, with "true" capitalism made possible by "true" abundance.
Unfortunately, reality is far removed from this.
There is actually no "control" of such resources by TPTB. That's because much of the wealth of TPTB consists of paper. Even their oil and gold futures are simply contracts for resources that they don't possess physically and in several cases do not even exist!
In lieu of hoarding, what I truly meant is CONTROL of so called 'scarce resources' such as Oil. The British East India company and other imperialistic empires CONTROL the trade routes to the 'scarce and therefore valuable' SPICES and GOLD. If we are to FLOOD the market with spices and gold, the corresponding value will then drop. Their power and wealth then decrease.
The irony is that for that paper to have value both demand and consumption of resources have to keep rising. In short, for TPTB to become wealthier, the "bottom feeders" have to consume more, not less.
The catch is that there aren't enough resources available. That is why an abundance paradigm is critical for TPTB. People have to be convinced that there is an abundance of resources, and that one group or another (government, cabals) or one problem (debt) has to be emphasized so that the economic crisis will look easy to solve. Whatever happens, people have to be told that capitalism will not lead to "humanity's downfall" but something else.
It's for the same reason that global warming and peak oil have to be denied. The capitalist machine needs to continue rolling.
If you are referring to another sort of wealth, such as spiritual wealth or compassion, then I agree with you. I just don't see how this point counters what I've been saying and how such ideas would not be more appropriate in another section, like Realm of Thought.
So, let me rephrase that: their abundance paradigm not the true abundance of which I am referring is just an illusion. In short, their wealth is just illusion.
I will point out, though, that given a resource crunch (which includes the effects of peak oil) and the long-term effects of global warming, this "true abundance" will become dominant. I do not think it will take place given claims that peak oil is a hoax or that "free energy" will save us. If any, such ideas will only strengthen illusions concerning wealth and the future.
The problem isn't energy but the material resources needed to make use of them, including petrochemicals, various minerals, and even fresh water. The same goes for mechanized agriculture and essentially a manufacturing system that is heavily dependent on oil.
Chi or Energy all around us is truly abundant. Everything in matter corresponds to energy by the equation postulated by Einstein. Solar radiation is powered by nuclear fusion. We can only capture a miniscule portion of that immense power through photovoltaic solar panes to power some of our homes.
As much as I appreciate such musings, I don't see how they will be used in the short term to solve a resource crunch, especially one that requires material resources.
The limitations of matter created an illusion of scarce resources. When everything in the universe including matter is pure energy. Between atoms and subatomic partic is that immense AETHERIC SPACE, which is not really empty. But occupied by the abundant Scalar energy waiting to condense and materialize from the higher dimension to 3D.
Tesla et al have managed to harvest that energy and convert to electricity to power lightbulbs.
FIAT LUX.
Link to download the podcast about FREE ENERGY...
from Red Ice creationsCode:http://rediceradio.net/radio/2012/RIR-120412-sallan-hr1.mp3
Code:http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2012/04/RIR-120412.php
Thanks for sharing that. I would like to argue, though, that these points do not counter the claim given in the thread title.
Again, we are in the same boat. Just some misunderstanding. I just like polarizing them as good or evil for ease of discussion and for politicizing for others to see the collective evil/greed in the system in the people, the controllers or the money powers.
Instead of simply black and white or the DUALITY, Everything is in between.
That is because nuclear destruction will work against the so-called "good" elites. That is why the alternative has been the Cold War, with military powers preying on weaker countries in exchange for cheap resources and labor.
But there are really some good factions and bad factions. For, e.g the faction of Bush and the neocons other neonazis are on the bad side. You do agree that 9/11 is a false flag.
While most of the elites are moderates. And there are good ones.
For their fruits, we shall know them.
You can see that there is no conflagration of nuclear destruction, we can attribute that to the saner heads that prevail. Whether you believe in the invisible higher powers or in the spiritual hierarchy making a hand to that.
Again, the goal is to maintain a global capitalist system. With that, limited warfare is preferable.
But when the combined effects of capitalism take place--debt, peak oil, and a climate change---then one should not be surprised if more conflict takes place.
Peak oil is not a myth. Oil production in the U.S. peaked in 1970. Production in two-thirds of oil-producing countries has peaked. Oil discoveries peaked in 1964. Oil production has barely gone up since 2006 even with higher oil prices, with increasing demand met by non-conventional sources of energy.
Peak Oil is a myth in a sense that as the doom prophet of that says that it's going to be gone in a few years from now. Relatively speaking it could still abundant about 500 years more or less factoring the demand and the population growth. Russian scientists are refuting Peak oil as such and observed that abiotic Oil is continously produced deep in the crust-mantle, and they devised deep drilling techniques to extract that. Fossil or living matter from ages past can't go deep to that, hence, abiotic. Majority of oil is not biological. But some speculated biological transmutation from deep microorganisms facilitating the creation of abiotic oil. So it's biotic after all. Ang gulo no, ha ha.
Only TPTB will argue that peak oil is a myth. That's the only way to make sure that "bottom feeders" won't be scared of the future, and will continue to borrow and spend. Why? Because that's the only way that the wealth of the TPTB, which consists primarily of money, maintains its value.
Claims of abiotic oil, together with other nonsense such as an abundance of what is technically recoverable (never minding EROEI) are also employed for the same reason: people have to be told that everything is fine, and that we're merely experiencing a "snag" in our regular programming. And in case that peak oil isn't a "myth," then don't worry because there's "free energy."
Your first sentence shows that peak oil isn't a myth. And I don't know where the second sentence and paragraph are coming from, as I never argued that you stated that peak oil is free energy. My point is found in my previous paragraph: TPTB will argue that peak oil is a myth. And in case they don't convince people about that, then they bring up abiotic oil, free energy, and anything that will promote an abundance paradigm.
But after 500 years, what is continually produced deep down there can't sustain anylonger the demand at that time. So, I don't think I refer to Peak Oil as Free energy.
Please refer to the Podcast which I linked and see if Peak Oil as one of the Free energy.
I am not surprised, as this is one way for TPTB to maintain their wealth.
Experts are now saying, the price of oil is more influenced by speculators now and not the actual production as in before.
Again, a "genocidal euthanasia" works against what the "dark cabal wants." That's because a global capitalist system requires increasing production and consumption of goods, which in turn means a growing population and growing resource consumption per capita.
Why not genocidal euthanasia? Which the neoMalthusian neonazi or zionazi dark cabal wants. As said earlier, I don't want the monetarist system we have currently. As in another thread, I wanted a system with zero interest lending and reprieve after 50 years as in the biblical jubilee. I want more regulation or the reinstitution of the Glass-steagall to prevent monetarist bankers from speculating which caused the ballooning of financial derivatives and the consequent collapse. I don't want the Globalist monetarist policy of DEREGULATION, PRIVATIZATION AND LIBERALIZATION which makes everything in the food chain under them.
That's why an abundance paradigm is important for TPTB. People have to be told that there's an abundance of resources. Any problems are merely brought about by greed, stupidity, speculation, and anything that will support that paradigm. What TPTB does not want to hear is the threat of a resource crunch. That is why it is important for them to argue that peak oil is a hoax.
A zero-interest system works against not only TPTB but a growing middle class worldwide that depends on the same system to maintain a middle class lifestyle, which includes, among other things, accessing this forum.
And inasmuch as one would like to imagine that TPTB wants to turn everyone else into "bottom feeders," it is likely the opposite.
That is why they support an abundance paradigm and see global warming, peak oil, and other predicaments as hoaxes. Increased borrowing and spending among the global population is what keeps much of their wealth valuable.
No. I didn't say that their wealth is composed of hoarded resources. You put words in my mouth. I agree that much of their wealth is illusion as I explained earlier. We are on the same boat.
For me, references to "pseudoscientific babbling" are meant to distract people from a so-called "apocalyptic neo-Malthusian frame of mind." It becomes even more absurd when one argues that TPTB, Marxism, and even Hitler had the same frame of mind!
There are also two faction inside the Vatican. There is infiltration of freemasons already. There is the pre and post Vatican II. So I agree.
We almost agree in almost anything. I think the point of disagreement is you don't believe in the abundance posited by the higher dimensional realms or the abundance of REAL ENERGY or CHI. Energy or Chi is not merely an Eastern philosophy or a pseudoscientific babbling but it is real and can be measured. [We can even extract gravitational energy. Again, listen to the podcast.] You are also limited by your materialist philosophy and thus have that apocalyptic neoMalthusian frame of mind. It's not really different from the Marxist viewpoint which also negates the existence of spiritual reality. Marxism or Communism which is the same custodial brotherhood network creation as Karl Marx was also their brethren. Just like the organized custodial religions of the custodial brotherhoods or TPTB. It's higly apocalyptic with a belief in Utopia but on worker's utopia. It's part of the dialectic opposition to posit as the opposite to Fascism of Hitler, another of the brotherhood creation as well. To make it appear, the capitalist status quo as the better deal. Hitler was also a member of the dark occult lodge, OTO. Any freemason or an occult practitioner knows that.
My views are more obvious: a global capitalist system requires increasing production and consumption of goods to continue growing. TPTB earns from such a system in the form of money, and that money has value only if there is continued production and consumption of goods. Thus, if any, TPTB is far from "neo-Malthusian". Given that, TPTB would support the same "pseudoscientific babbling" in order to encourage people to continue borrowing and spending, which in turn supports continued production and consumption of goods, and makes TPTB wealthy.
That's why an abundance paradigm, which includes "pseudoscientific babbling," is important for TPTB. People have to be convinced in all ways possible that there is an abundance of resource and energy. That way, they will be encouraged to borrow and spend more, which is what makes TPTB wealthy.
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