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  1. #61
    Tama ka, Jesus is the Word, The Word is God.

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral Conic View Post
    na tsismisan ang dalawang kulang sa kaalaman

    tanong, na siguradong hindi nyo masasagot dahil ito rin ang sagot sa mga nilista nyong tanong dito. dahil kung alam nyo sagot, hindi nyo na itatanong

    1. sino ang nagdeklara na sya yung sumisigaw sa ilang?
    2. straight to heaven ba after death? ito katawa tawa
    3. wag ka magtanong sa pastor nyo, wala silang alam
    4. bat ba ang init mo sa INC? merong iba dyan, masyado ka affected
    kitam. walang sagot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral Conic View Post
    na tsismisan ang dalawang kulang sa kaalaman

    tanong, na siguradong hindi nyo masasagot dahil ito rin ang sagot sa mga nilista nyong tanong dito. dahil kung alam nyo sagot, hindi nyo na itatanong

    1. sino ang nagdeklara na sya yung sumisigaw sa ilang?
    2. straight to heaven ba after death? ito katawa tawa
    3. wag ka magtanong sa pastor nyo, wala silang alam
    4. bat ba ang init mo sa INC? merong iba dyan, masyado ka affected
    1. Aba e ewan ko sayo ikaw yung may "creatively insane imagination" like all Manalistas.

    2. Itanong mo sa kasama mo na nagpost nun. Hamunin mo si Python2008 na INCoM din. Katawatawa ka.

    3. Like all INCoM members: "[Kung gusto ninyo malaman ang mali sa relihiyon ninyo, wag kayo magtanong sa kapilya ninyo kundi] Pumunta kayo sa kapilya namin".

    4. Affected ka ba kasi sa tingin mo "mainit kami sa INCoM"? Tingin mo lang yun. Kawawa ka naman.

  4. #64
    ^
    1. akala ko ba kayo nag compile ng bible? bokya
    2. wala ring sagot! bokya x 2
    3. hamunin mo ko pumunta sa pari nyo pupunta ako. sabihan mo lang muna sya para hindi ma shock bokya x 3
    4. tignan mo mga post mo bokya x 4

    4 bokya general ka tsong

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by ThelivingGod View Post
    To end the Iglesia ni Cristo's claimed that the Word is a "thought" and not a being/entity.... Lets see the John Chapter 1, habaan natin ang mga verses



    All the underlined,italized,and bolded words are pronouns referring the Word to a male entity/being,,, it we are to follow the INC's twisted belief that the Word is only a thought and not a being/entity
    all those pronoun should be replaced with the pronoun "IT"...
    Not that hard to understand di ba?
    You've been going in circles over and over again.

    Don;t you get it? John chapter 1 is a narration of an event that happened so many years ago.

    John knew who was the Word of God that was prophesied in the OT,
    that's why he identified Jesus through the pronoun "HIM". And to prove my point, the Jews as we speak are still waiting for the Messiah to come cause they do not believe He was Jesus.

    Why are they waiting for the Messiah? Because God flooded the OT with his logos/word regarding the coming of the Christ, the Savior.

    And the term "Logos" is not a being nor a living thing, and your absurd explanation does not even close to the scholars mind that if article "THE" is preceeded the term: Word then "Word" will become a living being...where did you learn that theory? Should I say a guesstimate?

    Prove it through the scriptures based on historical biblical facts that THE WORD is a living being and THE GOD in the OT...and not pure assumption and speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ETEs View Post
    Prove it through the scriptures based on historical biblical facts that THE WORD is a living being and THE GOD in the OT...and not pure assumption and speculation.
    Here is a better detailed explanation of the Word

    http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Word-God.html

    What do John 1:1,14 mean when they declare that Jesus is the Word of God?



    Question: "What do John 1:1,14 mean when they declare that Jesus is the Word of God?"

    Answer: The answer to this question is found by first understanding the reason why John wrote his gospel. We find his purpose clearly stated in John 20:30-31. “Many other signs therefore Jesus also performed in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; but these have been written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name.” Once we understand that John’s purpose was to introduce the readers of his gospel to Jesus Christ, establishing Who Jesus is (God in the flesh) and what He did, all with the sole aim of leading them to embrace the saving work of Christ in faith, we will be better able to understand why John introduces Jesus as “The Word” in John 1:1.

    By starting out his gospel stating, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God,” John is introducing Jesus with a word or a term that both his Jewish and Gentile readers would have been familiar with. The Greek word translated “Word” in this passage is Logos, and it was common in both Greek philosophy and Jewish thought of that day. For example, in the Old Testament the “word” of God is often personified as an instrument for the execution of God’s will (Psalm 33:6; 107:20; 119:89; 147:15-18). So, for his Jewish readers, by introducing Jesus as the “Word,” John is in a sense pointing them back to the Old Testament where the Logos or “Word” of God is associated with the personification of God’s revelation. And in Greek philosophy, the term Logos was used to describe the intermediate agency by which God created material things and communicated with them. In the Greek worldview, the Logos was thought of as a bridge between the transcendent God and the material universe. Therefore, for his Greek readers the use of the term Logos would have likely brought forth the idea of a mediating principle between God and the world.

    So, essentially, what John is doing by introducing Jesus as the Logos is drawing upon a familiar word and concept that both Jews and Gentiles of his day would have been familiar with and using that as the starting point from which He introduces them to Jesus Christ. But John goes beyond the familiar concept of Logos that his Jewish and Gentile readers would have had and presents Jesus Christ not as a mere mediating principle like the Greeks perceived, but as a personal being, fully divine, yet fully human. Also, Christ was not simply a personification of God’s revelation as the Jews thought, but was indeed God’s perfect revelation of Himself in the flesh, so much so that John would record Jesus’ own words to Philip: "Jesus said unto Him, 'Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how do you say, "Show us the Father"?'" (John 14:9). By using the term Logos or “Word” in John 1:1, John is amplifying and applying a concept that was familiar with his audience and using that to introduce his readers to the true Logos of God in Jesus Christ, the Living Word of God, fully God and yet fully man, who came to reveal God to man and redeem all who believe in Him from their sin.

    I hope this explanation opened up your mind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral Conic View Post
    ^
    1. akala ko ba kayo nag compile ng bible? bokya
    2. wala ring sagot! bokya x 2
    3. hamunin mo ko pumunta sa pari nyo pupunta ako. sabihan mo lang muna sya para hindi ma shock bokya x 3
    4. tignan mo mga post mo bokya x 4

    4 bokya general ka tsong
    1. E ano naman kung kami nag compile ng Bible? Ibig ba sabihin nun nainiwala kami na anghel si Manalo mo?
    2. bokya
    3. lang
    4. ng bokya sagot mo


    Napaka CSI (cheap, stupid and insane) mo naman tsong.

  8. #68
    ^
    1. wala lang. dapat lang alam mo kung ano ang nakasulat dun sa compile nyo hina naman nitong isang ito
    2. wala kang originality
    3. "
    4. "

    waste of time ka. gusto mo sa ignore list ka na lang para hindi napapahiya?

  9. #69
    walang anghel na rapist at fornicator.

  10. #70
    ^^^at wala ring anghel na nagbebenta ng pangalan ni Kristo upang gawing negosyo.

    isa pa, walang anghel na sugo mula sa Pilipinas, at hindi sugo si FM dahil walang nagsugo sa kanya... Kung meron man nagsugo sa kanya, eh SARILI LANG NIYA YUN at guniguni lang .

  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Mabuhay-Rex View Post
    ^^^at wala ring anghel na nagbebenta ng pangalan ni Kristo upang gawing negosyo.

    isa pa, walang anghel na sugo mula sa Pilipinas, at hindi sugo si FM dahil walang nagsugo sa kanya... Kung meron man nagsugo sa kanya, eh SARILI LANG NIYA YUN at guniguni lang .
    Alam mo mabuhay-rex, yung belief nila na hindi Diyos si Jesus Christ ay tumatayo na ang aking balahibo. Wala raw Christmas pero binibigyan ng importansiya ang birthday ni Manalo is simply plasticity of the highest degree. something is really really wrong....
    Last edited by csco80; Nov 30, 2009 at 08:43 PM. Reason: addendum

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    Sabi pa nila early Christians did not keep birthdays.

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    ^ cry sila shoulder ng isa't isa.

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    Isa pa, Nagaral daw sa isang theological school si FYM sa America hindi naman pala. Akalain mo yun. Isang anghel na sinungaling.

  15. #75
    napagusapan na yata to. ala na ba iba?

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Mabuhay-Rex View Post
    ^^^at wala ring anghel na nagbebenta ng pangalan ni Kristo upang gawing negosyo.

    isa pa, walang anghel na sugo mula sa Pilipinas, at hindi sugo si FM dahil walang nagsugo sa kanya... Kung meron man nagsugo sa kanya, eh SARILI LANG NIYA YUN at guniguni lang .
    sugo sya ng Diyos

    hindi naman nya ginawa negosyo INC in fact simple lang naman ang naging buhay nya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Python2008 View Post
    sugo sya ng Diyos

    hindi naman nya ginawa negosyo INC in fact simple lang naman ang naging buhay nya.
    Bulag ka nga..
    Simpleng tanong lang, sugo din ba sina erano at eduardo? Cigurado iiwasan nyo ang tanong na yan.

  18. #78
    - ano definition ng sugo? tinatanong mo kung sugo sila dapat alam mo kung ano meaning ng sugo, tama? iikot na naman tumbong nito

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral Conic View Post
    - ano definition ng sugo? tinatanong mo kung sugo sila dapat alam mo kung ano meaning ng sugo, tama? iikot na naman tumbong nito
    Eh ikaw ang nagpapaikot eh, bakit di mo masagot ng diretso? Bakit nagpapaliguy-liguy ka? Kawawa walang ginawa kundi umiwas sa tanong ! hahahahaha...........

    Isang tanong isang sagot, sugo ba si erano at eduardo? Sagot chronic!

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    hindi mo alam? umuwi ka na hinihintay na yung suka pinabili ng nanay mo

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