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  1. #1

    Question Ulan ba talaga ang dahilan sa baha? ...O nagpalabas ng tubig sa dam?

    I seriously doubt that the cause of the floods all around the metro was the rain. That really didn't feel like a month's worth. Double the amount of rain ng Katrina sa US?? Oh kamon...

    The water level was rising too fast and the rain wasn't consistently pouring down hard to attribute the floods to just the rain.

    I really think nagpalabas sila ng tubig sa isa sa mga dams which is why all this flooding happened.

    Comments?

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    Water dynamics is the immediate cause of the devastating floods. It is called cresting in here in California. When flood waters begin to rise, it rises and falls depending on the position of the moon and how much rain is falling. Since water flows to its lowest positions there is a velocity factor where the path is blocked by buildings and debris. Look at the waves in the sea. It's just like that, except water flows faster or slower, and it could be hours between crests. Cresting is observable in the path of the Mississippi river during these times. Imagine all that water in the cities and not in the river.
    Quote Originally Posted by last.dodo.bird View Post
    I seriously doubt that the cause of the floods all around the metro was the rain. That really didn't feel like a month's worth. Double the amount of rain ng Katrina sa US?? Oh kamon...

    The water level was rising too fast and the rain wasn't consistently pouring down hard to attribute the floods to just the rain.

    I really think nagpalabas sila ng tubig sa isa sa mga dams which is why all this flooding happened.

    Comments?

  3. #3
    kasi kahit yung dam nabahaan.

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    talagang nature yon, kalbo na ang sierra madre eh dahil sa kagagawan ng mga illegal loggers na may kasabwat na mga pulitiko

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    pag di binaba yung harang sa DAM, masisira ito dahil di na nya kaya yung dami ng water, kaya pag nasira ito lalo mas malaki problema

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    Dagdag mo pa 'yung walang responsibilidad na mga tao na tapon ng tapon ng basura kung saan nila gustong itapon ito.

    Siyempre magbabara ang drainage system.

    Bottomline: There is a reason why the environment needs to be cared for. The calamity that struck us last Saturday is a direct result of the people NOT caring for the environment.

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    Actually, kahit magtapon ng basura sa kalye, kung maganda ang water drainage, walang baha sa ulan. Dito sa Los Angeles, umuulan mga 20 days every year. Pero pag umulan, nakocollecta ang tubig ng Los Angeles River na dumadaloy sa Pacific Ocean. Kapag walang ulan, walang tubig sa Los Angeles (flood control) River. Isa o dalawa ang namamatay sa river every year kapag umuulan dito, pero nakabantay ang mga fire dept sa lumulutang na taong kailangang sagipin.
    Quote Originally Posted by fenn View Post
    Dagdag mo pa 'yung walang responsibilidad na mga tao na tapon ng tapon ng basura kung saan nila gustong itapon ito.

    Siyempre magbabara ang drainage system.

    Bottomline: There is a reason why the environment needs to be cared for. The calamity that struck us last Saturday is a direct result of the people NOT caring for the environment.

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    Stupidity and Greed...

    Huwag aasa sa PAGASA!

    A month worth of rain in 12 hours? and the fucking agency did nothing to warn the public? They should have 'seen' that mega rain in their radar and made necessary actions. I bet they are still using crystal ball in their forecasting. What a bunch of idyuts! The agency needs brain donation!.

    No engineer or scientist would conclude [unless that scientist is from PAGASA] that flooding of that magnitude was caused by the fcuking rain alone. 80% of Metro Manila was flooded, the cause? 12 hrs of fcukng rain! WTF? Highly likely that the release of water from the dam/s worsened the situation and of course, the trash, the 3 inch! drainage pipes and so on

    If were a MM resident and lost a family member or my business was badly damaged from the flooding, I will fucking sue these morons, PAGASA and the agency that released the water from the dam without a fucking warning!

    I wish those who perished are illegal loggers and their equally greedy partners, the corrupt public officials.

    A useless government and calamities is not a good combination.

    MALAS!

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    san ba galing yung tubig sa dam? at bakit ba sila nag-re-release ng tubig?

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    Matagal nang problema ang basura pero hindi naman ganyang ka-grabe ang baha. At kung pagbabara dahil sa basura ang sanhi, dapat ang Manila unang lumubog hindi Marikina. Sino sisishin ng pagbaha sa Marikina, dapat mga nagtatapon ng basura sa Marikina? Akala ko ba Marikina is the cleanest city in the NCR?

    Mali talaga ang pagkalat ng basura pero sa mga OA na dramatista dito sa LAFI, hindi basura ang sanhi nitong baha na ito.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanNathaniel View Post
    Actually, kahit magtapon ng basura sa kalye, kung maganda ang water drainage, walang baha sa ulan. Dito sa Los Angeles, umuulan mga 20 days every year. Pero pag umulan, nakocollecta ang tubig ng Los Angeles River na dumadaloy sa Pacific Ocean. Kapag walang ulan, walang tubig sa Los Angeles (flood control) River. Isa o dalawa ang namamatay sa river every year kapag umuulan dito, pero nakabantay ang mga fire dept sa lumulutang na taong kailangang sagipin.
    kaya nga kung ang forecast ng pagasa ay scientific hindi kagrabe ang mangyayari.

    bago palang bubuhus ang mga ganitong klaseng ulan dapat dahan-dahan ng nag re-release ng tubig sa dam. ang siste, pag mapupuno na at alanganin na sa structures, saka mag-oopen. ang resulta tuloy, instant big baha.

  13. #12
    Marikina, Cainta and Pasig are all low-lying areas connected by the Ilog Pasig.

    And when the people have a penchant for doing this to the Ilog Pasig, do you think they will go scot-free and not be asked to account for their actions?

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yXvPSpjIArA/SmrAiUq0nZI/AAAAAAAACjE/o5hs_BvEkjA/s400/asa.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenn View Post
    Marikina, Cainta and Pasig are all low-lying areas connected by the Ilog Pasig.

    And when the people have a penchant for doing this to the Ilog Pasig, do you think they will go scot-free and not be asked to account for their actions?

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yXvPSpjIArA/SmrAiUq0nZI/AAAAAAAACjE/o5hs_BvEkjA/s400/asa.jpg
    Yup, you are correct. Ang mga ibang Pinoy kasi masyadong defensive sa maling kultura eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Plus One View Post
    Huwag aasa sa PAGASA!

    A month worth of rain in 12 hours? and the fucking agency did nothing to warn the public? They should have 'seen' that mega rain in their radar and made necessary actions. I bet they are still using crystal ball in their forecasting. What a bunch of idyuts! The agency needs brain donation!.

    No engineer or scientist would conclude [unless that scientist is from PAGASA] that flooding of that magnitude was caused by the fcuking rain alone. 80% of Metro Manila was flooded, the cause? 12 hrs of fcukng rain! WTF? Highly likely that the release of water from the dam/s worsened the situation and of course, the trash, the 3 inch! drainage pipes and so on

    If were a MM resident and lost a family member or my business was badly damaged from the flooding, I will fucking sue these morons, PAGASA and the agency that released the water from the dam without a fucking warning!

    I wish those who perished are illegal loggers and their equally greedy partners, the corrupt public officials.

    A useless government and calamities is not a good combination.

    MALAS!
    hey moron, a month of rain in six hours doesn't mean one month's advance warning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cretinous00 View Post
    hey moron, a month of rain in six hours doesn't mean one month's advance warning!
    Hey FVCKHEAD! where in my post that the agency has to issue warning a month in advance?

    Learn how to READ and COMPREHEND.
    Learn how to READ and COMPREHEND.
    Learn how to READ and COMPREHEND.
    Learn how to READ and COMPREHEND.

    Has your fcuking brain affected by the flood? or you lost it? LOL!

    Get off this forum and get a brain, a working brain! MORON!

  17. #16
    Geez.

    All the warnings in the world will not help all of us if the drainage systems are crappy in the first place.


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    "Instead of watching soap operas, watch the news as well." -- A representative of PAGASA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snakerattle79 View Post
    talagang nature yon, kalbo na ang sierra madre eh dahil sa kagagawan ng mga illegal loggers na may kasabwat na mga pulitiko
    anong connection ng mga loggers sa pag baha ng manila? alam mo ba gaano kalayo ang sierra madre sa manila? and fyi madami pang puno sa sierra madre, hindi naman ginagalaw mga watershed.

    nature na talga humusga dyan sa nangyari. and wala na makakapag pigil doon. madaming factors bakit binaha ang ncr

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    I really doubt that the floods in Metro Manila is the result of dam water release. PAGASA is not a forecast, but a collector of rain data. PAGASA merely repeats the forecasts it receives from weather systems in Singapore, Japan, etc. That's why the data it sends to the ships in Pinas waters is at least 12 hours old. And regrading the dam operations, the operator needs to take action when action has to be taken, regardless of the people downstream from the dam.
    Quote Originally Posted by omeng View Post
    kaya nga kung ang forecast ng pagasa ay scientific hindi kagrabe ang mangyayari.

    bago palang bubuhus ang mga ganitong klaseng ulan dapat dahan-dahan ng nag re-release ng tubig sa dam. ang siste, pag mapupuno na at alanganin na sa structures, saka mag-oopen. ang resulta tuloy, instant big baha.

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    Are you a flood engineer red or just a common hate maker like a common trapo? Come on stop using the flood to spread hatred. Just stick with your " tuta ng amerikano at naghaharing uri thing.
    Last edited by ftwcp955; Sep 29, 2009 at 04:07 PM.

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